The Todd Mcfarlane lens design look beautiful. But yeah definitely need to see how the lens would look when spidey needs to express himself.

The concept art of Ned literally had him wearing an outfit with the exact same colors as the hob-goblin

The green goblin look we did end up with is perfection, they implemented the hood and the pouch in a very smart way, and not having the mask really let Willem Dafoe bring out more of the creepy goblin persona we both fear and like at the same time. I do think the suit would have been fine with classic mask as well, it would have added to the look; but I’m happy with what we got.

The mcu is obsessed with connecting everything back to Tony .

If they were going to do anything different with Ned, I think it would have been interesting if he hadn't disappeared in the Blip and in the absence of Spider-Man had decided to step up to being a hero himself to protect people. So when Peter comes back, he doesn't want to go back to just being "the guy in the chair".

Considering scarlet witch got her costume from the age of ultron concept art, I’d wager we could see either the Todd McFarlene or Mark Bagley lenses at some point. I especially hope for the McFarlene lenses since they are associated with adult Peter but I wouldn’t mind the ultimate lenses either.

Ned in the glider looks goofy

I think the Ultimate eyes could work really well for the next film. Depending on how Peter is going when he next see him, they could either represent his greater confidence as Spider-Man, or be a subtle representation of the Spider-Man persona taking over his life more. Other than offering more hard material protection to the face and better vision (since he may not have as much tech in the lenses anymore), they also give off a more emotional vibe from a matter of perspective: These eyes could make him look angrier with the flatter angles at the top, but could also come across as more bug-like and even friendly to children if he's outwardly showing a kinder mood.

For the Spider-Man mask concepts, top left is Romita Sr., top right is Raimi-esque (potentially Deodato Jr.), middle left looks like a concept that Alex Ross did for the Raimi movies, mid right is McFarlane, bottom is Mark Bagley.

While I would love the Big Eyes on Spider-Man and Green Goblin having Dark Elf Armor, him having Iron Man Technology is a Huge No No.

I agree with you Chris. I don’t want to see Peter become friends again with MJ and Ned right away because it would be a missed opportunity for character development. In the right storyline Ned could be a very cool villain but I can also see how the transition could be somewhat tricky. Ned just has a very friendly personality which makes him too likable to be feared. He needs like a turning moment that really sets him off to get him started. The head sculpts look amazing. Todd Mcfarlane is an amazing artist. As for Norman Osborn, I think the final suit worked best, it’s interesting to see the early concepts though. Good job with this video.

Spider fans : how many spiderman villans are you going to relate to tony Mcu : yes

5:33 i love the dark elf inspired green goblin look

I always thought mirrored lenses would look pretty cool kinda like what they did in 70s Spider-Man show

The concept art looks interesting but I think it was a bad idea with Goblin 👍 It wouldn't ruin the movie for me at least

I really think that the goblin iron suit isn’t an awful idea. It’s a neat reference to the iron patriot suit Norman wears. If it was purple it would look sick

3C Films: "You can see the John Romita influence" *pulls up the Todd McFarlene Spider-Man*

I like the goblin design in the one where it’s painted. The only problem with that one is the glider is a stark drone

That first green goblin concept art looks like Batman

Ned’s concept art, you can also notice his Jacket is Orange and Blue (Hobgoblin’s colors)

Neds hoodie is literally the same color of the hobgoblin suit

I love the Todd MacFarlane Spider-Man design id love to see it in live action

Don't forget 3C, it's not the Sinister 5, it's the fergalicous 5

I would've loved it if they used either of the eyes on the right or the bottom

The concept art with Ned and whether or not it's foreshadowing reminds me of my two favourite quotes from The Dark Knight from the 2000s. "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" "Madness, as you know, is like gravity. All it takes is a little push"

The very bottom lenses reminds me of bagely’s ultimate lenses which funnily enough mcu took bits of inspiration from the ultimate universe, especially Spider-Man.

It would be a funny scene if ned was on the glider lol

I actually like the lenses and hope they show up in the suit,reminds me a lot of the Ultimate Spider-Man lenses!

Mcfarlane is my favorite Spidey design so I would love if they did some sort of design like his for the movie

I think the big lenses could work because they could use the squinting and make it cartoonish like how it works in spider verse

That dark goblin costume is actually kinda comic accurate

Love the tight small we lined on the McFarlane esc concept art

4:07 i was loving the nwh suit UNTIL the still frame shot where we see its the exact same mask weve had for 7 years, id LOVE a fresh look for a new spidey

my biggest complaint besides the black lining on the homecoming suit WAS how small the lenses are, theyre too small for toms head, i rly hope they give him big ol Todd Macfarlene eyes in the next movie it looks so much cooler

The very Bottom one is actually based on Mark Bagleys Ultimate Spider-Man eyes

I hope they don't meet again until Ned becomes the hobgoblin and that's their first encounter cuz could you imagine Spider-Man's just swinging around and all the sudden he runs into the hobgoblin. It would already throw them off cuz it'd be kind of like seeing the Green goblin again and then he finds out it's Ned underneath the mask now. That would be a great story

The America Chavez character would have make more sense than the ned magic stuff that they would retcon it for sure

Norman Osborn is iron patriot in the comics

I really wish the concept art of Doctor Strange vs Mysterio happened

If they used the bottom left eye lenses it would be my favorite live action spiderman suit.

You could totally build a suspenseful and sad story with peter fighting ned cause peter knows its his bestfriend but ned forgetting is a problem

In no way would it have ruined itn. It looks kinda interesting, especially the purple version. Anything's better than the terrible 2002 Green Goblin movie suit. That green Power Ranger suit Willem Dafoe originally wore is one of the worst adaptations of a comic book suit I have ever seen. I wish they would have gone with the more comic accurate design from the test footage of the original movie.

The bottom concept of Spider-Man’s eyes are kinda like like the ultimate Spider-Man comic

I really hope they retcon it to where we get the classic Spider-Man suit we saw in the concept and the big eyes from the bottom row like I don’t get how they saw that suit and said nahhhh

The dark elf green goblin suit would have been amazing especially the goggles mix with his pointy nose and menacing grin

I love the Todd Mcfarlane lenses! I would love to see them implemented in a future Spidey movie’

The big eyes are amazing I hope we see them

Those large eyes look way more like Mark Bagely's Ultimate Spider-Man than MacFarlane

hey chris can we get a update on the strangers

I bet they’d write it similar to winter soldier as in like Peter is trying to figure out who the hobgoblin is and then when he finds out who he is, he ends up not wanting to fight him while Ned tries to kill him

That Ultimate Spider-Man mask is pure perfection

When ned jokes about him becoming a villain definitely becoming a villain

The purple gauntlets and boots with the suit that and the hoodie that we got and the dark elf half mask, that would’ve been perfect, at least to me

7:29 NORMAN OSBORN WAS ABLE TO BUILD THIS IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!

Big lenses would’ve been insane

2:19 that Todd macfarlene design is so iconic im wearing a shirt of it RN 😂

I really like the lenses in the concept art but don’t know if it would translate to live action

I want the macfarlane Spider-Man look

Tom reminds me a lot of ultimate spiderman so I wouldn't mind the eyes

The second eye design chris addressed looks exactly like the spiderverse 1610 peters spider eyes

I saw a theory that somehow ned remember Peter and he says you promised. Or something

When r we getting a review on twisted metal

6:51: that's no goblin, that's gobbler

I hope we never see Ned or Michelle again, they both brought all 3 films down for me. ESPECIALLY Michelle, wouldn’t bother me so much if they didn’t call her Mary Jane. Don’t they add the Watson later also? It’s like dude, she looks and acts nothing like MJ. Same with “flash” Thompson, looks and acts nothing like the character. What’s the difference between that, and having Tom Holland play the EXACT same character he’s playing, suit and all, but they called him Magneto.

If green goblin wore purple iron man armor on top of his regular suit I think it could've worked if they removed the gold accents and arc reactor

I thought at the end of NWH, he just cut out the lenses of the old suit and uses them

the black spiderman lense look kinda reminds me of superior spiderman

The eyes were definitely cool wished they used it

Ned holding a pumpkin bomb 😮😮😮😮😮 Hobgoblin!!!!!!!

You know maybe in this concept art when ned is on the glider maybe he would use it to fight the spiderman villans but maybe like either electro, sandman or the lizard tackle him make him fell and also maybe he would save mj from her fall

I like the big lenses

Remember his eyes may not move because this is a homemade suit

Dafoe would’ve been a menace regardless w those goggles

Should went with that dark elf goblin suit , It's feels more like an actual green goblin

Honestly some of those concept art ideas for the Green Goblin I think would work well for an MCU Hobgoblin. Picture this Mysterio' crew is still around from Far From Home. One of them gets his hands on Green Goblin's shattered mask and fixes it (it stayed behind like the piece of the Venom Symbiote) giving the look of the fixed mask on the Glider from the concept art. Now instead of using the Mark 6 Ironman armor like in the concept art they used what they had a spare Mysterio suit and changed it up a bit. Some paint changes to closer match Hobgoblin's comic look. And the Glider? The Drones Mysterio used like they showed Green Goblin using in the concept art. And yea this would definitely not be Ned in my canon. Probably Kingsley or Macendale.

There is no way they made that new spider logo bronze 3:59

I actually like the eyes on that mask. Looks better than his small eyes. My only problem with Toms mask is that black outline is too big compared to Tobey and Andrews eyes on the mask.

I could get into the "goofy goblin" idea if his mask looked that way from having fought Spiderman. Hes got no time to make another, and keeping his identity a secret is moot in this new universe. As much power as he has, he still needs to protect his eyes while out flying

Osborn does become the Iron Paitroit, so it could've been a little homage to it

The Todd McFarlane lenses for Spider-Man 4 are so good but I don’t think they should do it they already have the best suit possible I wouldn’t change it besides make the blue a little bit less glossy

I think the bottom eyes are more Ultimate Spider-man

7:24 You know, I'm something of an Iron Man myself.

Thank God Green Goblin didn't have Iron Man armor and a Mysterio drone for a glider, I would've literally walked out of the theater.

itd honestly be awesome if peter finally made his own lenses, its weird that hes still using tonys tech

I guess you forgot the last suit was a comic accurate iron spider suit

I don’t think his eyes would move cause he doesn’t have the stark suit anymore

The bottom lenses are ultimate Spider-Man lenses Chris. The middle right lenses are Todd McFarlane

Norman wore iron suit in the comics in a different context…

Dude, i would love it if they used the McFarlane eyes on the No Way Home ending suit, it's just they shouldn't be CGI, it would ruin it, as it would look weird and unrealistic, the McFarlane eyes are much better if they were real eye lenses, stuck permanently in that position, the cgi will ruin it.

Andrew had the ultimate comics eyes

He shoulda dug it out of his grave

I think they kinda realized iron man IMMENSELY overshadowed things last movie

Hobgoblin gonna be the mcus green goblin

I wouldn't have mind if they made Ned hobgoblin.

How tf you not know Todd Mafarlene did the big lenses

Ned Leeds had magic powers in the comics too that's literally nothing new

the dude who said yachty had dreads

I get why they wanted to give the Goblin the Dark Elf stuff, but the pointy ears do look a little ridiculous. So I'm kinda glad they didn't do it. I mean, I get they wanted some way to give off the comic classic pointy goblin ears. Similar to how TASM 2 had a large earpiece in Harry's ear I am glad they didn't give Goblin those yellow and green goggles that would be made from his mask. It does look silly. Allowing Electro to use the arc reactor to in crease his powers and the nanotechnology to restrain Doc Ock are fine, but I agree that Goblin using Iron Man armor would've been too far. I guess it was to further make Norman Osborn be the dark version of Tony Stark thus making it Peter Parker's ultimate enemy. But it really does go too fair. And I am glad he didn't use one of the STARK drones. Goblin's glider is fine the way it is and they did not need to replace it. I agree that I would have liked to see America Chavez in this. It really did seem like lazy writing to make Ned be able to open a portal so easily. Having Multiverse of Madness take place before NWH even makes sense because if that were the case, it would give more reason why Strange wants to send the villains home because if they don't do it soon, an incursion will happen. Imagine if he warned Peter this. I guess the villains would believe that Strange is bluffing and they would still decide to stay in the MCU. But I really would have liked to see America Chavez interact with Peter, Ned, and MJ. We have yet to see her interact with characters her age. That is why I am excited to see her interact with Spider-Man in Avengers 5 and 6. Hopefully she does meet Ned and MJ too, along with Kamala Khan, Kate Bishop, and Cassie Lang.

The evil best friend their cannon event

Picture this. Instead of Peter being saved by strange in the bringe scene. Goblin takes peeter by the neck and they fight in the air. They end up back into the heart of new York and crash into the side of a building where they continue to get at it. When out of no where. You hear the Tobey theme start playing. (The audience freaks out) we get a close up of Tom's face and he's like "wtf" and then it moves to a shot of Tobey wall crawling up to goblin and Tom to save the day. They both end up beating goblin and bring him to the magic prison where he begins to act like Norman. Boom