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Thom Merrilin - The Man Who Can't Forget

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Күн бұрын

Introduction to Thom Merrilin in the Wheel of Time.

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@reapfield8687
@reapfield8687 2 жыл бұрын
"I can still hear the way he would cry for the ones he was missing" ILYENA???? ILYEEEENNAAAA MY LOVE WHERE ARE YOU? ILYEEEEEEENAAAAA
@callandor4704
@callandor4704 2 жыл бұрын
*Winter Dragon flashbacks while sweating profusely*
@dreamer2260
@dreamer2260 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Lews.
@kid_eisenhorn9438
@kid_eisenhorn9438 2 жыл бұрын
Ahahaha, Lews Junior!
@salvatoreharan
@salvatoreharan 2 жыл бұрын
@@callandor4704 I love Winter Dragon. So bad it comes back around to being a fun meme filled time. My friends and I constantly yell "...Dragon?!" And since the show hasn't done that scene, it's still canon for me. Billy Zane needs to come back.
@callandor4704
@callandor4704 2 жыл бұрын
@@salvatoreharan I love how you can see Billy Zane trying at first, then giving up halfway through that ordeal. Truth be told, it's been some time since I last watched it completely. Any time I've tried after the first, I can't take it anymore roughly 5 minutes in.
@chrisroxburgh82
@chrisroxburgh82 2 жыл бұрын
The colors of his morning(mourning) The darkness of his night Little graves that gave no warning A sun that brought no light He saw his whole world breaking That tortured soul I met In the prison of his making The man who can’t forget I can still hear the way that he cried for the ones he was missing I can still hear the way that he cried for the ones he had lost He saw them in the rivers He felt them in the rain In dreams he heard them whisper The truth that is his pain He caused the whole world’s breaking That tortured soul I met In a prison of his making The man who can’t forget
@andaristal
@andaristal 2 жыл бұрын
The context is so awesome, color of morning as he was the lord of morning, little graves for his children that he killed, sun for his wife illeyna sunhair who he also killed in his madness, he caused the breaking of the world. The dragon.
@Osyrous
@Osyrous 2 жыл бұрын
This song and it's lyrics have permanently accentuated talamon's book back story for me. Man it has such an incredibly somber mood.
@eryksylvan801
@eryksylvan801 2 жыл бұрын
Optimum amount of likes- don’t ruin it
@pd6355
@pd6355 2 жыл бұрын
@@andaristal "Morning" can also be "mourning."
@pd6355
@pd6355 2 жыл бұрын
I also think it lingers on Rand long enough for book readers to understand he's getting it, at least subconciously. Also probably projecting this, but at 1:16 he seems to be looking around to see how everyone is reacting to a song about a dude who axes his whole family. Maybe with a little guilt.
@forsaken7976
@forsaken7976 2 жыл бұрын
The best change the show’s made so far is adding this song. A great tune that captures the essence of the story of Lews Therin
@chrisslooter2825
@chrisslooter2825 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@stefan1924
@stefan1924 2 жыл бұрын
Is this song in the books somewhere?
@reaper2r
@reaper2r 2 жыл бұрын
@@stefan1924 I’m pretty sure it wasn’t. I think this was placed to try and replace some of the lore lost cutting the cold open from the book version of The Eye of the World.
@alcovitch
@alcovitch 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad I'd rather have pencils shoved in my ears than here this actor sing again. AWFUL, DREADFUL.
@immortallord-ot5sn
@immortallord-ot5sn 2 жыл бұрын
Also make sense because of thoms nephew. He talks about the tragedy of the dragon and not what he causes
@Evan-gi1hs
@Evan-gi1hs 2 жыл бұрын
thom's actor stole episode 3. dude has an insane on-screen presence. also, giving thom a western vibe was a surprisingly cool change.
@craigt2192
@craigt2192 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the Scottish barmaid was good as well, liked her horse trader joke
@tct8284
@tct8284 2 жыл бұрын
@@craigt2192 I didn't find her a very credible threat even when Rand let het take his sword, but the horse trader joke was solid
@billyrigby4839
@billyrigby4839 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously, with the books I was always a Nyneave and Mat stan but I’m 100% a Thom stan now.
@PartyHans
@PartyHans 2 жыл бұрын
@@billyrigby4839 Who's Stan?
@sirgog
@sirgog 2 жыл бұрын
@@PartyHans Stan is a term for obsessed fan, from the 2000 Eminem song Stan
@gauracappelletti3893
@gauracappelletti3893 2 жыл бұрын
I really like how he's called a gleeman, but this introduction just shows him able to command raw emotion, positive or negative
@stefan1924
@stefan1924 2 жыл бұрын
The Rains of Castamere, Merry's Song, all the LOTR end credit songs, The Misty Mountain's Cold, Jaskier's songs and now this. There is something about songs that adds a whole new layer of immersion and epicness. I am hoping to hear much more of Thom Merrilin.
@alcovitch
@alcovitch 2 жыл бұрын
Get out of here, as if this "song" is anywhere on par with those masterpieces. This was poorly executed and for a bard, poorly sung. It was n ear sore.
@sanadafox1182
@sanadafox1182 2 жыл бұрын
@@alcovitch hes not a bard...he’s a gleeman
@SgtNerdrage
@SgtNerdrage 2 жыл бұрын
@@sanadafox1182 he used to be the court bard to the throne of Andor. If the show does him justice his repertoire is much grander than this tune he did for some commoners
@fcb1693
@fcb1693 2 жыл бұрын
If I may, I'd actually add the song "sing of Manetheren", it's short, but it's still great like all of those, and maybe "Jenny of oldstones"? I loved that one as well.
@stefan1924
@stefan1924 2 жыл бұрын
@@fcb1693 Yes that one's awesome too. Wish it was longer though.
@scepta101
@scepta101 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see what else they do for music in the show. This was utterly fantastic. If Jak O’ the Shadows doesn’t make it into the show we riot
@matthewbeale5083
@matthewbeale5083 2 жыл бұрын
If Rafe is as big a fan of the books as he claims, it'll be in there.
@neildigennaro2901
@neildigennaro2901 2 жыл бұрын
If it is not included, where do we meet?
@rgoodwyn
@rgoodwyn 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! With a visibly annoyed Mat wishing they would shut up lol
@rgoodwyn
@rgoodwyn 2 жыл бұрын
@Paul Ridgeway One day you will see that hating and/or loving certain space wizard movies is not a substitute for a personality. Also hilarious how you are so sour after 6 episodes of a series that will, in theory, span 14 books lol.
@rgoodwyn
@rgoodwyn 2 жыл бұрын
@Paul Ridgeway You are welcome to your opinion. No matter how ridiculous it sounds. They also already recast Mat back when Barney bailed a while ago. Thank god you can just stop watching the show and going to videos to whine about it. Just reread the books.
@jeremysells7367
@jeremysells7367 2 жыл бұрын
In the books Thom is juggling, wearing a colorful cloak and playing a harp. Episode 3 he's Nirvana MTV Unplugged! I love it!
@ShivSaerdin
@ShivSaerdin 2 жыл бұрын
That grunge song....so this is where Kurt was reborn.
@akrkwood
@akrkwood 2 жыл бұрын
More Mark Lanegan than Kurt Cobain but yeah. I’m not mad about this version of Thom.
@ReptilianRichardRamirez
@ReptilianRichardRamirez 2 жыл бұрын
Hes an ex warder, right?
@douglasbernal3033
@douglasbernal3033 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReptilianRichardRamirez No, just a bad ass court jester who was almost king.
@akrkwood
@akrkwood 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReptilianRichardRamirez maybe thinking of Elyas?
@kriplaniankit774
@kriplaniankit774 2 жыл бұрын
With context this is really a beautiful song.
@the_well-known_stranger2275
@the_well-known_stranger2275 2 жыл бұрын
Especially since SPOILER is standing right there listening.
@gilian2587
@gilian2587 2 жыл бұрын
@@the_well-known_stranger2275 Dana? Yeah.
@the_well-known_stranger2275
@the_well-known_stranger2275 2 жыл бұрын
@@gilian2587 nope… (spoilers below) The man who can’t forgot, The Dragon Reborn, Rand al’Thor is standing right there. Hearing about his past life, a life he comes to remember and cannot forget.
@gilian2587
@gilian2587 2 жыл бұрын
@@the_well-known_stranger2275 And here I was just trying to confuse the uninitiated...
@sirgog
@sirgog 2 жыл бұрын
Especially to people who have finished book 12 and learn more about LTT.
@Bmr-jt2ci
@Bmr-jt2ci 2 жыл бұрын
Chills turned into tears when the camera turned to Rand's face...
@dreamer2260
@dreamer2260 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. What a cut. Tears in his eyes. God I love Rand and Lews Therin so much. Great characters.
@vaati5000
@vaati5000 2 жыл бұрын
god this is my favourite scene in the show so far
@victorialee6
@victorialee6 2 жыл бұрын
Same! So many goosebumps!
@joeleek9976
@joeleek9976 2 жыл бұрын
I like how he finishes the song and just unceremoniously gets up and exits the stage. He doesn't wait for clapping or approval. It's apparent he doesn't need either.
@Raphies
@Raphies Жыл бұрын
Thom would've bowed
@joeleek9976
@joeleek9976 Жыл бұрын
@@Raphies book Thom would have. I like the change.
@thezerowulf2046
@thezerowulf2046 Жыл бұрын
​@joeleek9976 I don't, Thom was a showman. He lived for the art.
@joeleek9976
@joeleek9976 Жыл бұрын
@thezerowulf2046 that's fine. We all fan in our own way.
@hannahgarfield4663
@hannahgarfield4663 2 жыл бұрын
Obsessed with this song 😩
@Rhand007
@Rhand007 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, couldn't bear waiting so screencaptured it myself as nobody else had made it available yet ^^
@ErisRenee
@ErisRenee 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rhand007 thanks
@billyrigby4839
@billyrigby4839 2 жыл бұрын
Same same…
@billyrigby4839
@billyrigby4839 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rhand007 thanks so much!
@PaulKellyy
@PaulKellyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rhand007 hero of the day
@ComradeSlice
@ComradeSlice 2 жыл бұрын
Seek no more, Tinkers. You have found The Song.
@combogalis
@combogalis 2 жыл бұрын
When you realize he sang a mournful song to a room of boisterous drunks because he's pissed about the dead Aiel in the cage.
@blasphemerous
@blasphemerous 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not why he sang that song. He’s a gleeman, it’s how he makes a living, and every single person in that room knows that he’s singing about the dragon. Noob.
@bradleywesterman4439
@bradleywesterman4439 2 жыл бұрын
@@blasphemerous He’s a gleeman like you said he could’ve been telling stories, singing happy songs, dancing, or juggling. He intentionally sang a sad song to a room full of happy people that were drinking to bring the mood down. I don’t think it’s too much of stretch to say he did this because they shot an unveiled Aiel that was no threat to them out of ignorance. Thom was pretty clearly upset about it when he was talking to Mat. It was just some fun speculation at why he sang that particular song at this tavern.
@francescacosta259
@francescacosta259 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradleywesterman4439 ya it is definitely because Thom hates seeing the injustice around him, and this song is so sad knowing how his nephew was impacted both by the legend of the Dragon as well as the mercy of strangers while Thom was away and couldn't stop anything Lots of parallels tbh
@carolinadiaz9452
@carolinadiaz9452 2 жыл бұрын
You can remove the gleeman from the game of houses, but not the game of houses from the gleeman ;)
@janvancura8412
@janvancura8412 6 ай бұрын
No he is singing it because the man it is about is in the crowd
@lastresort3159
@lastresort3159 2 жыл бұрын
Singing this to the two main characters who are cursed/blessed to remember... foreshadowing on point.
@nightsaber99
@nightsaber99 2 жыл бұрын
This song explains the prologue in Book 1 perfectly!
@sirgog
@sirgog 2 жыл бұрын
Have you read book 12? It's even better when you have finished that.
@georgevelis4651
@georgevelis4651 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirgog true
@cuebiyar
@cuebiyar 2 жыл бұрын
I said that same thing. This is tEoTW prologue!
@alcovitch
@alcovitch 2 жыл бұрын
They should have just opened the show with the Prologue from the books.
@georgevelis4651
@georgevelis4651 2 жыл бұрын
@@alcovitch I hope they show it in a future episode
@Porthector88
@Porthector88 2 жыл бұрын
brb putting this on repeat until the next episode comes out.
@mattrovine9644
@mattrovine9644 2 жыл бұрын
Come on Amazon give us a Thom album.
@fu3ar503
@fu3ar503 2 жыл бұрын
He has a fantastic voice
@chrisslooter2825
@chrisslooter2825 2 жыл бұрын
It's a perfect voice and performance for this particular situation. Technical perfection in context. The high part in the middle gives me goosebumps every time.
@sirflapfla97
@sirflapfla97 Жыл бұрын
I'm afraid this song was the only good part. Amazon butchered everything else.
@Appophust
@Appophust Жыл бұрын
With a 59% audience rating this steaming pile of crap is getting canceled.
@eccehobo
@eccehobo 2 жыл бұрын
I think we're going to find out that the poor soul Liandran Gentled and probably killed in the first episode was Owen. Thom isn't just singing about Lews Therin, he's pouring his grief out about his nephew. Though I think the show will change Owen to be his son, and that's why Thom will really help the boys.
@lianapaiva8439
@lianapaiva8439 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking about episode 1’s cold open.
@fisioterapia_holisticament
@fisioterapia_holisticament 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, didn't even think about that, i think you are right, now its getting even more interesting!
@Raistlinsdragonclaw
@Raistlinsdragonclaw 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, why change the source material to different but close to the same. Are they trying to have a measuring contest with a dead author. Trust me screen writers, robert jordan was longer, thicker, and had throbbing veins for her pleasure!!!!!
@sebastianbrady234
@sebastianbrady234 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raistlinsdragonclaw No, they are finding ways to make it fit a screen medium better, a medium where you can't rely on just telling the audience something is happening like in a book. They have to really show it and the exposition that would have to go into justifying thoms motives will take up too much screen time compared to the much easier the to do cold open that includes Moraine and sets up reds as antagonistic.
@Raistlinsdragonclaw
@Raistlinsdragonclaw 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianbrady234 Thanks for a well written response. I disagree, Rand asks " why are you helping us" Thom "fixing a mistake i made years ago" Future flashback thoms nephew being gentled. Think about it, moraine and thoms story is based on this. It is huge. They done f'd up.
@rhystheodore4903
@rhystheodore4903 2 жыл бұрын
Goosebumps with who is looking directly at when he get's to the line "He caused the whole world's breaking".....
@44kryth
@44kryth 2 жыл бұрын
And to think I was fearful of them not giving us Thom Merrilin! The actor is a good choice for Thom! Can't wait to see more of him!
@pietrpiepir6444
@pietrpiepir6444 2 жыл бұрын
I hope this is meant as sarcasm
@firestrike001
@firestrike001 2 жыл бұрын
@@pietrpiepir6444 go back to your cave ^^
@TransientMotion
@TransientMotion 2 жыл бұрын
@44kryth Ikr? This is the perfect "worldweary" Thom casting
@pietrpiepir6444
@pietrpiepir6444 2 жыл бұрын
@@firestrike001 All those who disagree with us must be cave-dwellers.
@adonisendymion2480
@adonisendymion2480 2 жыл бұрын
Brought to life so beautifully by Kjartan. With context it’s even sadder of a song.
@sirgog
@sirgog 2 жыл бұрын
Spoilers book 12's climactic chapter: it's even more of a magnificent song when you watch it having read the Veins of Gold chapter
@genericallyentertaining
@genericallyentertaining 2 жыл бұрын
BOOK SPOILERS: Holy crap, I just realized the reason Rand is tearing up is probably because he subconsciously remembers being Lews Therin. AUGH! The foreshadowing in this show is too good!
@the_well-known_stranger2275
@the_well-known_stranger2275 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, you’re right, I didn’t notice or think of that, but that’s awesome.
@theloniouspete7319
@theloniouspete7319 2 жыл бұрын
Yup I peeped it too. But how they are pointing to him not obviously is great
@matthewbeale5083
@matthewbeale5083 2 жыл бұрын
The look Rand gets when Thom hits that second stanza and the camera pulls in for a close up...whew.
@cobracous2656
@cobracous2656 2 жыл бұрын
More spoilers.... What makes this even greater is that Rand literally remembers everything in LTT's life. He literally can't forget.
@1Theraptor
@1Theraptor 2 жыл бұрын
EVEN MORE SPOILERS: I honestly doubt that he can remember anything of his past life at this point in time. Correct me if I'm wrong but him remembering LTT's life was a symptom of his madness which comes from channeling, and the only moment we get a hint that he channeled so far in this show it's actually in this episode but comes later, when he breaks down the door to run away from the darkfriend.
@zyonhenderson67
@zyonhenderson67 2 жыл бұрын
This series needs to be filled with songs. I hated them in the books but god damn it'd feel weird if they werent in the show. Excellent song!
@kostisgeorgalakis9852
@kostisgeorgalakis9852 2 жыл бұрын
how dare you hate the books songs.... how about jack o the shadows?
@chrisslooter2825
@chrisslooter2825 2 жыл бұрын
@@kostisgeorgalakis9852 I think I know what he means though, I read a lot of books and when songs or poetry come in it's never my favorite part in a book. But if you can actually hear them it becomes awesome. That's probably what he means - or maybe he just hated them :)
@jasonbooth9858
@jasonbooth9858 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna be awesome when the band sings Jak O Shadows
@humbertoquadros9384
@humbertoquadros9384 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, i never like songs in books, since i can never imagine a compelling rythim or harmony, and just read lyrics of songs i dont know isn't entertaining. But the songs in the series are coming off GREAT.
@zyonhenderson67
@zyonhenderson67 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisslooter2825 Yeah you hit the nail man. I love the books but poetry aint never been my thing. I dont hate em but never wanted them in books
@ElanMorin
@ElanMorin 2 жыл бұрын
the first time I heard him sing, 'I can still hear the way that he cried for the ones he was missing' I was hooked. love this, love the actor playing Thom and his voice is great.
@thewarlocke5303
@thewarlocke5303 2 жыл бұрын
When I first heard that Thom wouldn't have his iconic harp, I was a bit mad/upset. Uh.. I'm a bit more ok with it now. Amazing performance.
@ThisChangeIsAwful
@ThisChangeIsAwful 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, they didn't tell us about the part where he's now a cowboy badass.
@Adamdidit
@Adamdidit 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThisChangeIsAwful a new turning of the wheel brings many interesting slightly off kilter possibilities like this one
@randlebrowne2048
@randlebrowne2048 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I'm glad that they switched from harp to guitar. Harp music tends to sound strange to modern ears; but, the guitar is pretty relatable (while still able to sound appropriate to the setting).
@HigureHokousha
@HigureHokousha 2 жыл бұрын
Still not happy about it, but they did a good job with this too!
@nathanmorgan3647
@nathanmorgan3647 2 жыл бұрын
@@randlebrowne2048 Thom would have hated the guitar though if memory serves. He was a little bit of a music snob. And a harp really doesn't sound 'strange' It's just a plucked string instrument just like a guitar. It would be more akin to a Celtic lap harp rather than the huge orchestral things. If they really didn't want a harp, they could have done something like a Lute, something a little closer to Thom's wheelhouse. Lute & Flute. xD
@12branko12
@12branko12 2 жыл бұрын
HUGE SPOILER FROM BOOK 1 “The truth that is his pain” and the camera points at Rand. I freaking love the foreshadowing
@12branko12
@12branko12 2 жыл бұрын
@Anne Day Thanks for reminding me. I edited it. :)
@ovschinikov
@ovschinikov 2 жыл бұрын
Great choice of clothing, amazing choice of moment to introduce thom, and above all, superb casting. I am a die hard book fan and yet, i am consuming this show as a work of its own and enjoying the easter eggs that are here and there for fans to pick. Great job!
@nroke1684
@nroke1684 2 жыл бұрын
To preface this, I love the scene and the casting, I just wish his mustaches were longer. Thom’s long mustaches are such an important part of his characterization, I wonder if the actor will grow them out in the future.
@RyanWright
@RyanWright 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to take the same approach. I knew they would have to change things from the books.... I just hope they keep them to good changes like this one. I'm approaching the series as one of the "other worlds" that you can reach through the Portal Stones... That helps my brain deal with the differences rather than obsessing over them... lol
@ovschinikov
@ovschinikov 2 жыл бұрын
@@nroke1684 dem mustachios need time haha and i think making them cg or fx wld make them look weird
@giovannifrancescoparola5201
@giovannifrancescoparola5201 2 жыл бұрын
@@RyanWright relax, my friend, this is another turning of the Wheel, another Third Age. It's all canon
@Hirosada
@Hirosada 2 жыл бұрын
One the one hand, that does not look anything like Thom Merrilin. But on the other hand, I can absolutely see this interpretation nailing a queen and a sorceress. Maybe they can get him to grow out his mustache in later episodes to get the best of both worlds,
@DrewIsFail
@DrewIsFail 2 жыл бұрын
This song might be the best part of the show yet. It's a perfect way to layer in information naturally into the world. Later, those that don't already know, will look back and understand what this means in hindsight.
@joshuabrown7815
@joshuabrown7815 2 жыл бұрын
It also kind of has a doable meaning
@MrSidney9
@MrSidney9 2 жыл бұрын
I like this dude. Great presence , very charismatic. Stole every scene he was in
@brandalfthegrand
@brandalfthegrand 2 жыл бұрын
Episode 3 pulled it together for me.
@brechjebakker2912
@brechjebakker2912 2 жыл бұрын
Same, which is ironic because it splits the party, but I feel like the show is really hitting its stride here
@matthewbeale5083
@matthewbeale5083 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely the best of the first three episodes.
@ThatPash
@ThatPash 2 жыл бұрын
How everyone in the room just, stilled - when THOM sat what just gold
@DristeraCrossing0
@DristeraCrossing0 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of just wait for the guitar to go rough and Thom screaming out "and nothing else matters" 😂. Great song, great voice! Love this show, I love everything in it.
@johannesmarais6347
@johannesmarais6347 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha. That is excellent!! Hahaha
@xerofoxs2give
@xerofoxs2give 2 жыл бұрын
Thom Merrilin, through sheer presence and skill, goes beyond a standing ovation and leaves the room in silent awe and emotion.
@gnperdue
@gnperdue 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this was lit AF. This is nothing like how I pictured Thom in the books, but I’m down with this version for sure.
@Patch.of.clover
@Patch.of.clover 2 жыл бұрын
I’d have preferred how I envisioned him but we can’t always get what we want! He’s pretty good nevertheless and the song was very cool
@rahjeel
@rahjeel 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know anything about the books until this show but when I heard the song I instantly thought of The Dragon Reborn. He is the man who broke the world and can't forget.
@brechjebakker2912
@brechjebakker2912 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad to see new fans picking up on that stuff! You are spot on
@ThisChangeIsAwful
@ThisChangeIsAwful 2 жыл бұрын
sometimes I worry the show will leave out too much for the people who never read the books. comments like this fill me with so much hope and happiness.
@sirgog
@sirgog 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThisChangeIsAwful I assume they had a number of test screenings with people who had read the books AND people who had not.
@thomasross6824
@thomasross6824 2 жыл бұрын
When I first watched the episodes I really worried that they weren't really explaining enough and that the non book audience would be confused. Since I read the books I have all the context so its hard to guage whats confusing and whats not, but I've seen a lot of comments like this which makes me happy. I hope you continue to enjoy the show :)
@theawesomebeing
@theawesomebeing 2 жыл бұрын
good eye! as someone who hasn't read the books, who do you think the Dragon Reborn is?
@LuisFlores-wx8ke
@LuisFlores-wx8ke 2 жыл бұрын
Spoilers Daaaaamn the foreshadowing of the line "... that is his pain." and the camera focusing on Rand is just so good!
@didsain
@didsain 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this song acts as both exposition of LTT but also foreshadowing of Rand.
@BartasRapowanie
@BartasRapowanie 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they kept the prologue in the show, but this song about Lews Therin also gave me massive goosebumps 💀
@JoelJoel321
@JoelJoel321 2 жыл бұрын
I reckon we'll go back there at some point.
@lordofchaos1502
@lordofchaos1502 2 жыл бұрын
That prologue might be too confusing for the audience, I think we will get it later. It also creates a mystery for the audience, they want to know what exactly happened to the Dragon. So when the flashbacks about Lews Therin come out it will be very powerful, because by then the audience will have some understanding of what happened.
@oskarpalus2846
@oskarpalus2846 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordofchaos1502 There will be alot of flashbacks, we already had nynaeve one. we will have aiel war as well, so lews therin is likely. I hope for 1 more scene with Tam though.
@dreamer2260
@dreamer2260 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think from what I’ve heard we’ll get the prologue and Lews Therin in probably S2, possibly S3.
@loveylace4541
@loveylace4541 Жыл бұрын
@@lordofchaos1502 They could put it in season two. It would make more sense since the audience already knows Lews and what happened.
@MyBoomStick1
@MyBoomStick1 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked this scene and the one where they sing about Menethren
@alcovitch
@alcovitch 2 жыл бұрын
The Menetheren song was actually well sung,. It was great. This is awful crap.
@nightal78
@nightal78 2 жыл бұрын
I think all reader of The Wheel of Time love this song with the story context and a understand of the importance of this song.
@RickGrundy
@RickGrundy 2 жыл бұрын
Great presence. Great choice of actors, and great presentation of the character.
@danielholm7720
@danielholm7720 2 жыл бұрын
I had this song in my head all day. Beautiful! I like the dirty, whiskey voiced Thom. Awesome!! ♥️
@paul9875
@paul9875 2 жыл бұрын
So much foreshadowing in the cinematography: RJ would be proud!
@moonshyne777
@moonshyne777 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite part of the show so far. I feel like that tortured soul, in a prison of my making.
@etiennebreiland254
@etiennebreiland254 2 жыл бұрын
Is an analogy for both the dark one and lews Theron since both can't give and forget and both cuz the breaking and both are prisoners of their own making if you think about it
@4LegCrotch
@4LegCrotch 2 жыл бұрын
The way he feels like a tortured soul in the prison of his own making is full of the exaggerated swagger of a psychologically tormented Dragon Reborn
@kerrykirk2515
@kerrykirk2515 11 ай бұрын
There are certain things we aren't meant to forget, others only when lessons are learnt. Hope u are ok
@ninimolisdeda7058
@ninimolisdeda7058 2 жыл бұрын
im obsessed.
@minkalampinen9519
@minkalampinen9519 2 жыл бұрын
This IS Thom Merrilin! Perfection!
@pd6355
@pd6355 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see how they do The Eye of the World prologue. Lews Therin is weeping madly listening to this song.
@mjdaniel8710
@mjdaniel8710 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I like this Thom
@dillonwaggoner3785
@dillonwaggoner3785 2 жыл бұрын
I predict a choral or orchestrated version of this song playing over the credits right after either the dramatic reveal of -CHARACTER- being the Dragon Reborn or of -CHARACTER- getting their first wave of hard memories from Lews Therin. And it will be so darn good.
@JoelJoel321
@JoelJoel321 2 жыл бұрын
That would be great.
@theawesomebeing
@theawesomebeing 2 жыл бұрын
Part of me wants Michael Kramer to voice Lews Therin. I can never forget him wailing "Ilyena!" in the Eye of the World prologue
@JoelJoel321
@JoelJoel321 2 жыл бұрын
@@theawesomebeing Peter Capaldi is my dream casting.
@matthewbeale5083
@matthewbeale5083 2 жыл бұрын
For those who think this is too-on-nose, bear in mind that we in the know are perfectly aware that this fits with Lews Therin's final moments. But there's nothing specific to Lews Therin in the song. This is equally applicable to any person who destroyed their own life, such as through a destructive addiction. In fact, that's probably more likely the In-universe source of the song. Your average Andoran peasant won't know what we know about Lews Therin.
@jamesherr4672
@jamesherr4672 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing Thom, I'm sure he knows it's about the Dragon, but he's performing it thinking about his nephew.
@randlebrowne2048
@randlebrowne2048 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesherr4672 Or the downward trend in his own life, at the very least.
@iceTime999
@iceTime999 2 жыл бұрын
No I think everybody (at least everyone who knows the story of Lews Therin) knows who this song is about. We have the line "He caused the whole world's breaking", so obviously this song is about the breaking of the world. Still it's a nice ballad, gleemen would sing about such an important event. Very appropriate.
@nathanmorgan3647
@nathanmorgan3647 2 жыл бұрын
"Your average Andoran peasant won't know what we know about Lews Therin." Yeah, have to disagree there. Lews Therin and the Dragon is practically the religion of the world
@ComradeSlice
@ComradeSlice 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanmorgan3647 a lot of commoners believed the Dragon tried to free the Great Lord. The contents of the prophecies are not well known. “The Dragon!” someone moaned. “The Dark One’s loose in Ghealdan!” ~ The Eye of the World
@Stardust_4300
@Stardust_4300 2 жыл бұрын
I just fell in love with this song ...a prisoner of his making...what powerful lyrics!! 💝💝💝💝
@hk-4799
@hk-4799 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest I don't know shit bout this show (or book series now I see the comments) and I'm not TOO interested but my dad put it on a few hours ago and has been binging it and I just can't help but love this song
@Anthony_Cika
@Anthony_Cika 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Dude/ette give it a shot. You'll fall in love!
@sirgog
@sirgog 2 жыл бұрын
Having watched the show and read the books, this song is a complete masterpiece. This song will be even better when you know a little about a historic figure from the book series, the one that dies in the prologue of the book. And better again when you finish book 12 and learn much more about that character's torments.
@joannadyakova5744
@joannadyakova5744 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirgog how have you watched the show when there are only three episodes available??
@Adamdidit
@Adamdidit 2 жыл бұрын
Here's my advice. Dont read the books yet. They've changed enough (and thats okay, change is built into the world) where you may slightly confuse yourself. Wait til the seasons is over, go in understanding that some stuff in book and show will be different and enjoy that you essentially get two versions of the same story.
@theawesomebeing
@theawesomebeing 2 жыл бұрын
honestly, read just the prologue of Eye of the World and then relisten to this song. it'll hit you way harder
@TeamRemForever
@TeamRemForever 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite scene in the show so far. It's so beautiful to hear, and it's such a great way to introduce Thom! The song also describes Lews Therin and the Breaking of the World perfectly
@troylivingstone9553
@troylivingstone9553 2 жыл бұрын
A great song and a superb performance 🎭 👏 Also very fitting that a song about the Dragon Reborn should be the first song we (and Rand) hear from Thom
@rzuue
@rzuue 2 жыл бұрын
haven't read the books, but latest this really got me hooked on the show. I feel like songs in a book don't work that well, but in a show or movie they actually make it feel more real to me. People do sing every now and then, whether it's for themselves or for others. And it is also a great way of providing information or setting the tone of a scene
@Divine_Chareka
@Divine_Chareka 2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of my favourite scenes in the first season so far. Well done!!
@chillsahoy2640
@chillsahoy2640 2 жыл бұрын
"I can still hear the way that he cried for the ones he was missing." Ilyena, where are you? Ilyena, my dear, why are you hiding? Oof don't leave this strangely shaped rug just bunched up on the floor, I almost tripped over it. Ilyena, are you here?
@georgevelis4651
@georgevelis4651 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched this at least 15 times since it came out
@colinhiggins9501
@colinhiggins9501 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since I heard this song for the first time I couldn't get it out of my head, there's something seriously eerie and droll about it, but it also draws all your attention in at the same time. It's really well done
@Visceralreality
@Visceralreality 2 жыл бұрын
It almost has a "Hero of Canton" feel to the start. Really love the way they handled Thom so far.
@calibadgerdude6082
@calibadgerdude6082 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Yeah, I felt that too along with You Can’t Take the Sky from Me
@navydayv
@navydayv 2 жыл бұрын
From the look on Rand's face, it's almost like he knows the man who can't forget. 🤔
@bittypimp69
@bittypimp69 2 жыл бұрын
The casting in this show has been so damn good.
@marcosmartins7581
@marcosmartins7581 2 жыл бұрын
The best intro for a character in a long time 👍🏾👏🏾 happens also to be one of my favs from WoT 😜 Will we see him changing pace and style for other environments?? For now, a 20 out of 20!!
@metaldave08096
@metaldave08096 2 жыл бұрын
Was SO looking forward to this scene!!! Awesome.
@Doughy_in_the_Middle
@Doughy_in_the_Middle 2 жыл бұрын
The song I play when next I have a D&D player who asks, "What's a Nat 20 Performance check look like for a bard?"
@ilregiallo4151
@ilregiallo4151 2 жыл бұрын
Writer 1: "Ok, no one must know who the Dragon is until the end of the season. Keep it a secret, remove every reference to Lews Therin, make the viewers doubt about the sex of the child" Writer 2: "Can I introduce a little reference out of context that only the readers will understand?" W1: "Ok" The little reference:
@ambm9808
@ambm9808 2 жыл бұрын
This works so well with them talking about how they are glad they can’t remember their past lives in the first episode, and (spoiler) how Rand is the only one who remembers his past life
@randlebrowne2048
@randlebrowne2048 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that he (consciously) remembers his past life yet at this point in the story.
@ambm9808
@ambm9808 2 жыл бұрын
No but I think the reference is intentional foreshadowing. I’m taking it as part of the prophecies in song form
@robjohnson339
@robjohnson339 2 жыл бұрын
I was wrong. The guitar works, but only Thom gets to tune it.
@piotrbrys8008
@piotrbrys8008 2 жыл бұрын
Guys notice the difference in behavior between all the listeners and the barkeep, she seems to be enjoying but she can't stand still and her mouth keeps twitching. Her smile also never reaches her eyes, so it's fake. Extremely subtle but on another re-watch it can be seen
@winespringinc.9447
@winespringinc.9447 2 жыл бұрын
Best tavern-performance since "The Hero of Canton" Our love for him now, isn't hard to explain. The hero of canton! The man they call Jayn
@fragdude
@fragdude 8 ай бұрын
I dunno what it was about this, but made me think about that episode & mudder’s milk. Haven’t even seen the show in over a decade…
@LorewalkerTheo
@LorewalkerTheo 2 жыл бұрын
Very obviously referencing Lews Therin. Such a sad story and good song/performance.
@dreamer2260
@dreamer2260 2 жыл бұрын
It’s one of the most tragic stories I’ve read in fiction. The prologue is absolutely haunting. Can’t wait for us to see it in the show.
@LorewalkerTheo
@LorewalkerTheo 2 жыл бұрын
@@dreamer2260 me either. It immediately gripped me the first time I ever read Eye of the World. This series is on another level
@dreamer2260
@dreamer2260 2 жыл бұрын
@@LorewalkerTheo Yep, same instantly hooked me. I was basically ride or die to see how the connection with Lews Therin played out with the Dragon Reborn from seeing that prologue.
@AWSVids
@AWSVids 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t sure if he was saying “forget” or “forgive” when I watched this. Glad I found this video title to clear it up.
@dereko4471
@dereko4471 2 жыл бұрын
1:08 it looks like the sun through the window is shining on rand like a spotlight
@dreamer2260
@dreamer2260 2 жыл бұрын
Lord of the Morning. Prince of the Dawn...
@eryksylvan801
@eryksylvan801 2 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful jewel embedded into the Weave that is WOT. Thank you
@jeleeson
@jeleeson 2 жыл бұрын
Really liking this "Johnny Cash" version of Thom.
@chrisslooter2825
@chrisslooter2825 7 ай бұрын
This tune was one of the few surprises that this WOT reader enjoyed completely. I love the cover versions as well.
@priceyblackwinter2338
@priceyblackwinter2338 2 жыл бұрын
When you realise they make Thom a decent enough musician to write a song that isn't all in 4/4
@nathanmorgan3647
@nathanmorgan3647 2 жыл бұрын
Still only 3 chords though. lol
@tomivalkonen1343
@tomivalkonen1343 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. 🙏✨
@omedon666
@omedon666 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to do this to you all but... "Bravely bold Sir Dragon..." And now the image is in your head too!
@42DangerVision
@42DangerVision 2 жыл бұрын
lol...
@nathanbaca5131
@nathanbaca5131 2 жыл бұрын
He was not at all afraid to be killed in nasty ways, brave brave brave brave sir dragon
@Colaman112
@Colaman112 2 жыл бұрын
Not in my head, no idea what that is. Not gonna look for it either if it's gonna be in my head.
@42DangerVision
@42DangerVision 2 жыл бұрын
@@Colaman112 It's the "Bravely Bold Sir Robin" song from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
@Linguistic1
@Linguistic1 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't spill my image in the least! Makes it better in fact!
@manuelp6791
@manuelp6791 2 жыл бұрын
What a way for the grey fox to enter
@sigmaphidelta8
@sigmaphidelta8 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if this was written by Asmodean.
@svenlauke1190
@svenlauke1190 2 жыл бұрын
how could it be? Asmodean was imprisoned by the time Therin lost his mind. and they probably won't include him in the show anyway. he was pretty irrelevant.
@wilmascholte7607
@wilmascholte7607 2 жыл бұрын
I'm more wondering which Hero of the Horn was a musician. That could make sense. The Dragon would be in Tel'aran'rhiod and be the man who can't forget. Then give some divine inspiration to a gleeman.
@glowy_subject3050
@glowy_subject3050 2 жыл бұрын
Really amazing song, just like the Manetheren one they have been placed high in the song quality list for me, the Misty mountains cold, the rains of Castamere, seems fantasy series are rising to the top of filmmaking
@jimzimmer2048
@jimzimmer2048 2 жыл бұрын
they are doing a lot of singing in the tv show and i love it
@skellator4848
@skellator4848 2 жыл бұрын
62k views, I probably got 20 of them already lol. Was watching this with my noob wife who has no clue about WOT and she just didn't get it. But for us loyal fans - just perfect. If he has been dancing around playing a harp it would not have fit the vibe of the show so far. A 20 year wait made worth it just for this moment alone!
@EsquilaxM
@EsquilaxM 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, I didn't expect the Third Age to have a song empathetic to the Dragon... Then again, it's Thom. This was damn good...
@aaronglennyan3530
@aaronglennyan3530 2 жыл бұрын
when you begin to wonder: did they cast a singer instead of an actor?! why not both of course! gripping voice..the impact of his singing is surreal, not to mention the lyrics.. great performance.. a court bard indeed!
@d.rock2224
@d.rock2224 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I love thinking of Thom as Sam Elliot, this Thom is so amazing. He always was written as a middle aged man to me more than Sam Elliot despite his description.
@marcwright4790
@marcwright4790 2 жыл бұрын
At one point Sam was a middle aged man too! Lol. I can see Sam as Thom thirty years ago.
@d.rock2224
@d.rock2224 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcwright4790 but book thom isn't described as Sam as a 30 year old man, it's long white mustachioed Thom.
@marcwright4790
@marcwright4790 2 жыл бұрын
@@d.rock2224 30 years ago Sam Elliot was 47 and already had white hair and mustaches. He could have played Thom back then. Now he’s too old.
@d.rock2224
@d.rock2224 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcwright4790 not talking about Sam Elliot 30 years ago talking about him as a 3o year old man. But hey im down for any aged Sam Elliot
@Archonsx
@Archonsx 2 жыл бұрын
this actor is really good, the character too
@ChuckDickens24
@ChuckDickens24 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really digging this show. I wouldn't say better than books but been a solid adaptation so far.
@tilencampa8273
@tilencampa8273 7 ай бұрын
I honestly don't find the show appealing and wouldn't even "endure" through watching it if I wasn't such a huge fan of the fantasy genre. But this scene and song will be forever imprinted in my heart and mind. Simply sublime!
@MrBellsa61
@MrBellsa61 2 жыл бұрын
Jfc he's singing about the voice in Rand's head. That's a deeeeeeeeeeeeeep cut.
@5quepasa
@5quepasa 2 жыл бұрын
Foreshadowing and exposition all rolled into one exceptional song. Amazing!
@Madame702
@Madame702 2 жыл бұрын
Tom was one of my favorite character in the books. I wish he had his colorful cloak but I glad that finally got to see him.
@dyballocks1296
@dyballocks1296 2 жыл бұрын
The inside of his coat has colorful patterns fyi, so I think we might see it down the road in its full glory
@Highbrowser
@Highbrowser 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody notice the multicolored patches on the inside of his coat? :-)
@forsaken7976
@forsaken7976 2 жыл бұрын
Barely. It’s blink and you miss it. 🤦🏼‍♂️
@chasepeterson1696
@chasepeterson1696 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the blind guardian cover :)
@uofc57
@uofc57 2 жыл бұрын
Feeling some serious The Man They Called Jayne vibes!
@kylecook7187
@kylecook7187 2 жыл бұрын
They definitely nailed Thom
@ThisChangeIsAwful
@ThisChangeIsAwful 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, not the thom from the books, but they have created a new thom that is amazing.
@wesleydearinger855
@wesleydearinger855 2 жыл бұрын
A new turning of the wheel. Trying to do a bit better then the last turn...
@manolismylonas9886
@manolismylonas9886 2 жыл бұрын
Been looking for this ever since Episode 3 premiered, thank you
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