"If you did use wallhacks..." "yeah?" "would you inject them?" "yeah!" "every LAN?" "Oh no it dep- some players- put it thi- to- if- if I was to use wallhacks? I'd be a very mild user. And I have once would've (if I had of) ever tried it, I would've tried it once to use a lot and- and didn't really notice a great deal of difference, d'you know what I mean? But um, a lot of women use- would use wallhacks four to five times the amount that I use" "would use" "yeah, yeah _would use_ "

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Don’t tell smooya

next thing he hatches

What a waste of a vacation lol

best cheater ever

Jk I’m not braindead

I literally heard him say "The joke is, and no joke" in a podcast the other day. It was on another level.

More like "Pfh jouwk ees"

He’s even better than that mutt kero.

So you think he cheated and got away with it, and you think that's a good thing and respect him for it or something?

@@whoaitstiger womp womp

bro its like a alpine slope line of coke and then amphetamine as a chaser then talk, i died laughing

Except he wasn't even the best player on his team when he was winning lol

@@cottonmather8146As I said. You're all wrong.

@@aimlevel 😹

@@cottonmather8146 quick look back would tell you that's not true, olof was getting the praise, flusha was getting the 30 bombs (not trying to downplay olof)

@@slick3996 Olof was getting the praise because he was the better player, lol. Had a higher rating and was the one making the hero plays. Flusha was top 5 no doubt, but Olof was better

He was constantly keeping the midwits on their toes, they couldnt handle him. You could see them sweating over whether or not they will understand his next joke.

Probably in the next 1 or 2 years

Is there a new wave of evidence/analysis on this? I thought some of these comments here were kind of bait/rehashing stuff from the last decade but it sounds like there’s a new round.

I’ve been saying this for many years and have received nothing but grief from Counter Strike players. There is a mass denial on this topic in the community. I really don’t understand how you can see all of Flusha’s cheating evidence and still give him an interview platform. It’s gross

​@@Evan2768 Here is the part which I'm not understanding. I agree that Flusha has clips that are so out there and cheat-y looking that I have no choice but to *think* that he is cheating. If I were an event organizer, I would have felt uncomfortable, at the time, sending Fnatic invites for this reason. That being said, there hasn't been any investigation or piece of evidence which I have dug up which is a smoking gun type proof. I've read a lot of the stuff about the Fnatic team 'going out and buying cheats' that were floating around, or how Flusha programmed cheats, interviews with developers, speculation about the 'sonar'/hypothesized crosshair-sound cheat that could let him wall on LAN, I've read a lot of this, though nothing too recent. Even with all of these ideas in mind, I've yet to see something where someone has, beyond a reasonable doubt, proven to me that the dude is cheating. IE in a court case where a defendant is accused of murder via shooting, you'd need to be able to place the defendant with a gun at the scene in order to prove their guilt. I suspect that Flusha did the 'crime,' however, I can't place him with the tool conclusively to *know* that he was cheating. I'm not trying to say one of those idiot things like "because he's not VAC'd that means he's not cheating," as that's kinda backwards, you cheat BEFORE you get caught. What I am trying to say though, is that while I don't think that he's innocent, I also can't prove he's guilty, resulting in a murky verdict. This is why people are found 'not guilty' as opposed to 'innocent.' Thorin is a Journalist and an interviewer who is trying to doccument competitive gaming. Flusha won multiple majors and was never declared guilty. I don't see how offering him an interview is some kind of knock. If there's any new info, please let me know, this is something that I'm extremely interested in researching further, especially if someone's actually got him this time.

@@Reaching8 it’s called the court of public opinion. He hasn’t been officially declared a cheater and probably never will. But we as observers can make our own judgements based on our own observations. I understand why Thorin still does interviews with him, I just personally find it gross based on my own conclusions.

@@Evan2768your conclusions are wrong.

Flusha is as much of a cheater as ropz was proven to be when he was flown to FaceIT HQ. FFS, guys... have you ever watched one of his streams? Do you truly know how smart flusha really is when he's playing the game?

@@TurntableTV He cheated my guy. As did several pro players. Just because you use cheats doesn’t mean you aren’t a good player. Just means you cheated to get an advantage

the same crying for the past 10 years lol

Yeah it's disgusting, but you have to understand a lot of these losers "legit cheat" themselves or have done so and admire him for getting away with it at such a high level.

@@TriWaZeIs there a new round of analysis or something, or are you going off one of the old explanations? Not trying to start a flame war or anything, just curious. If you put a gun to my head I think I’d probably say Flusha cheated, but I always struggle to put the whole thing together.