Rapha learned a lot from zero4

I also forgot to mention sparks :( I think the point still stands that there wasn't as much high level competition back in the day.

Chance as well. Although there's a strong argument for him bringing those players up to his level moreso than he benefitted from the practice. DaHang was always a bit better vs Rapha than he was against anyone else.

BillyMaysRIP tbh he played against me so, you know, i think i made him who he is

BillyMaysRIP respect. Rapha was brilliant, and that IEM4 breakdown is a perfect example of peeling back the curtains to see what was really going on. in game he was incredibly impressive, i remember watching him on the quake-live.tv king of the hill evenings (tuesdays or thursdays?) just running through opponent after opponent with an attention to detail that couldn't be matched. Rapha was timing all the items, all the weapons, controlling the map and bullying his opponents into disadvantaged positions. and that was the way he played the pro game as well. it was truly exciting to watch, and the style he employed was similar enough to cooler that when they met the matchups were incredibly tense.

same here, but his videos make me watch some quake tournaments and im fcking impressed with skill these players have( fast, smart, godlike aims)...

Both of you should watch some old tourneys. QuakeCon, IEM, DH and maybe even older than that. It's highly entertaining and fairly easy to follow/understand. Players you might wanna look out for are rapha, cypher, cooller, noctis, avek, toxjq, evil, strenx, dahang, stermy. I think that's a good chunk of the tier 1 & 2 scene of the last couple of years. Probably missed a handful of players, but the top 3 is there. And if you want to see the best quaker in the world, there's of course always James Harding Kappa

I know only about Quake but I still enjoy other Thorin's videos. He makes LoL sound more interesting than it is.

sapphiregoku Then play it! Getting into Quake isn't as hard as you think and its much more rewarding winning a duel than winning a lane in a moba/winning a clutch in csgo, this is coming from someone who played both the latter at a decent level

If you didn't already watch it, watch reflections with rapha.. he talks a lot about decision making and mindset, practice methodology and so on.. its great rapha has taken a while longer than avg to fully adapt to the deeper Quake Champions meta that has far more variables to consider at any given time, but he is my pick for QuakeCon duel 2018. DaHang was incredible at DHW and his aim especially his rockets were just too much in the semi, and he absolutely destroyed in the final.. as did TL in the Sacrifice final.. but rapha has had the time now to find his Quake Champions game.. still item/map control based meta but with far more in real time to evaluate. His aim let him down a bit last year which I believe is down to mental capacity, the higher load on his mind to play his game.. now he is so comfortable and makes such great calls in 2v2.. it seems almost certain rapha and dahang will take 2v2 they are so dedicated and have explored so many team composition options in scrims on all the maps.. they rarely lose, there was one map in a BO5 2v2 tourney a couple of weeks ago lol and dahang had a terrible start and didn't play as disciplined in the fights he took early.. they still came back to only narrowly lose that map and go 3-1.. NA-only tournament but from how dominant they are in NA there will only be a few teams that pose any threat.. the comms are #1 and they have shown many times how well they can adapt quickly and make the most of little edges and turn a close game into a big streak and end up winning by a big margin.. often say 20-15 or 20-20 game ends up being 50-35 or wider gap through such optimized teamwork, they play really disciplined in bad situations and get back control etc.. most of all they don't get complacent or let their egos take over.. they are always looking to improve and work on any mistakes :) You can probably tell if am SO HYPED for QuakeCon.. its going to be such a stacked field.. new format with pick/ban system (not sure which modes) and apparently CTF will be played.. probably be very raw and have some issues but the development going forward will benefit so much from the best players and teams playing and giving feedback

This is a BS made up story rofl

KARTIKEYA007 It's real you shitlord. His dad used to play under the ra3 name 800lb gorilla and shane used to play under |< Scar because of the scar on his face. You don't know anything about the scene or Shane.

Justin Enks The only reality is that his dad died. He did not make a blood oath or anything. Talk to him personally instead of barking here. I love it how he made a " blood oath" but then switched to OW the moment it came up.. He hasn't even spent too much time with quake, he has studied quake, not played it much. Thats why many people can kill him in 1on1 engagements on equal stacks. He is not considered a top pick in any game mode outside of duel due to his average fighting abilities. If quake did not have duel, you probably would not have heard of rapha as he constantly has lost FFA and other game mode tourneys due to poor aim. His study of quake makes him a great duel player however as duel is all about decisions.

KARTIKEYA007 Stop pretending to know what you are talking about. What are you gonna say about raphas clan arena QuakeCon tournament win with demex and clock? Or his many impressive wins in CTF. Fuck, stop replying to me, you are obviously some shitter newb that doesnt know the scene.

a week ago he talked about that on stream, i was really shocked, perhaps that is why zero4 took him in?

Id now make games that are framelocked at 60 FPS, it's sad ;(

Check out game called Reflex

id is pretty much dead. Murdered in a backalley by Bethesda and Zenimax. A new Quake would be a complete disaster.

Reflex is basically cpma. Super fun and has a lot of the same maps and a lot of new stuff too. And dueling is actually active

Reflex is the next big arena FPS in development right now. It's seriously sick right now, the devs really know what they're doing.

KARTIKEYA007 He definitly is holy shit

New quake :D

When you compare players for different games it becomes a popularity contest. So the only thing you can compare are their accomplishments. I only know of one serious vote for the greatest gamer ever, and that was on ESReality, where SlayerS_'BoxeR, won it. But this was in 2004, so things might have changed :)

Doubt it will happen, he doesn't follow the scene.

Mn8 He needs to follow it then :D

Yeah you would think thooorin would take interest in dota. In terms of history, wc3 dota is extremely deep and dota 2 has built up quite the resume as well. Maybe one day thooorin will dabble with dota.

yeah they have proper names now BUT because old schoolers are still using the old ones you're still gonna get lost. ofc they have an easy time remembering which one is which because they used to see the name so much and associate it with the map.

Playing slow and defensively has always the unsual approach. It was the same with Thresh, never lost a tournament, yet some people disliked his playstyle.

***** I meant to the "Rapha" game he said was recently. Dunno if I misheard him

***** Cool thanks man :)

Huqe Strenx is fantastic, but Toxic is just on another level

I've heard you've made an entry into CS:GO. Welcome and make sure you blame smurfs in silver ranks. Ok?

Wigglly Wagger kk

vvvortic "I know I'm a Nova 2 but I really play like a DMG."

wtf man? I thought you're only trolling on LoL videos, but you're f*cking everywhere!

vvvortic vcod and cod2 take skill :'(