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What did I just watch? "The Acolyte" Episode Eight (Finale) Review

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@Highskill3r
@Highskill3r Ай бұрын
She simply chokes an unarmed man who has been her friend all her life and then spends a happy time with her new friends, complete with upbeat, emotional music that's meant to make us identify with her. This show is so absurd.
@Quickscript
@Quickscript Ай бұрын
bro that’s what Im say. And people are calling this incredible
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend Ай бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage 🤣🤣🤣
@patriciaa65
@patriciaa65 Ай бұрын
And he explains almost everything to her except for the fact that she turned into a weird shadow monster who looked like she started to absorb Mae 🤦🏻‍♀️
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend Ай бұрын
@@patriciaa65 only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Ай бұрын
Not even on a real dime
@mxvega1097
@mxvega1097 Ай бұрын
She goes to brief Yoda. She either a) tells the truth and he helps cover it up, which makes him complicit or b) tells a lie, and he doesn't sense it, and is therefore a fool, presiding over a farce of corruption and darkside influence. How on earth is the audience supposed to buy that? BOTH options are catastrophic for his character.
@nikolaimyhre1187
@nikolaimyhre1187 Ай бұрын
How didn't Obi-Wan and Yoda sense that Anakin was together with Padme? There are many things the Jedi haven't been able to sense.
@urdsama42
@urdsama42 Ай бұрын
@@nikolaimyhre1187 Hardly the same.
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 Ай бұрын
Yoda is Really Darth Wyly, Darth Plaugus's Sith Master. Or Disney would Think This as a Good Idea, Anyway.
@Siris0055
@Siris0055 Ай бұрын
Using too much brain you are. - Yoda
@mxvega1097
@mxvega1097 Ай бұрын
@@nikolaimyhre1187 It's not omniscience, but there should be ripples/disturbances especially if there is a lie, evasion, or dissonance between what being said and a clouded conscience. This very show indicates force connection and sensitivity over distances and between people - ie Vernestra and Quim. I don't think the example of Anakin and Padme is analogous.
@AllanRamires1988
@AllanRamires1988 Ай бұрын
She also blamed Sol for killing Indara, a murder that happened in front of multiple witnesses.
@latetotheparty7551
@latetotheparty7551 Ай бұрын
it wasn't even a murder. Self defense, at worst. And her claiming to have seen it yet still not understanding, is just even more insulting.
@jirdan4870
@jirdan4870 Ай бұрын
I also love how everyone is killed by lightsaber, yet Indara is killed by a knife, hardly a weapon that one wielding lightsaber would use.
@rush5235
@rush5235 Ай бұрын
Plus ... wouldn't it be on record that he was teaching a class while she was being assassinated?
@ChoseeComprende
@ChoseeComprende Ай бұрын
Uh actually *imagine meme image* ... I would dare to say this is the part i would be willing to let pass ... After all, from all the others know person who killed Indara was Sol's former padawan, who he let go for she wasnt able to overcome her negative emotions ... Ergo: Sol had a Padawan who inclined to Dark Side ... > That Padawan killed Indara in anger ... >> Sol went to investigate with this very Padawan and few more Jedi ... >>> Everyone ended up dead, her mind was wiped out, and Sol killed himself. I mean, its a weak case at best ... but maaaaaaaaaaaybe it could work as an excuse.
@ciro_costa
@ciro_costa Ай бұрын
No, they didn't. That was blamed on mae. Which is not a sith.
@capybaruscapybaris7249
@capybaruscapybaris7249 Ай бұрын
Yoda: "Tired of all this sh*t, I am. Overdose on deathsticks, I am going to. Forget about everything that happened, I will."
@willfilmon182
@willfilmon182 Ай бұрын
We're going to do the same.
@lukeyznaga7627
@lukeyznaga7627 Ай бұрын
ahhahahahahahha
@TheSilverwolf97
@TheSilverwolf97 Ай бұрын
"Of all this shit, tired I am. Overdose on deathsticks, I am going to. About everything that happened, forget I will." I think sounds more Yoda-esk.
@eightnickel1513
@eightnickel1513 Ай бұрын
This was how Yoda got addicted to ketamine.
@Crow_Duskwing
@Crow_Duskwing Ай бұрын
Wise choice, Master Yoda. Wise choice, indeed...
@peace_love_unity
@peace_love_unity Ай бұрын
Osha: Spares the life, listens to and joins forces with who she knew only since he murdered her closest friends before her eyes 1 day ago. Also Osha: Learns that her master, rescuer and almost stepfather killed her mother 16 years ago by accident and murders him on spot without a question.
@worthyvix7654
@worthyvix7654 Ай бұрын
Plus she’s been with Sol for 16 years and her mother less - killing him was stupid
@peace_love_unity
@peace_love_unity Ай бұрын
@@worthyvix7654 Exactly, plus he literally explained to her he had to lie on her behalf for years, because if he told the truth they would never train her and probably would study her in a lab as a force experiment.
@rikard.h
@rikard.h Ай бұрын
That's how the dark side works, my guy. Anakin didn't choke Padmé for nothing.
@worthyvix7654
@worthyvix7654 Ай бұрын
@@rikard.h So you're saying this makes sense to you?
@rikard.h
@rikard.h Ай бұрын
@@worthyvix7654 As much sense as a lot of other SW stories that I still love. It's unfortunate to see people unable to set aside some less than good writing and focus or the story, when you know they have done so in the past with George's work. I think The Acolyte has bad writing in parts. But that doesn't mean I ignore all of it. It also has good writing in parts (with more nuance than the OT and many shows), which get completely ignored on these echo-chamber channels.
@GrayFox370
@GrayFox370 Ай бұрын
At this point Spaceballs is more Star Wars than Disney Star Wars
@Codysdab
@Codysdab Ай бұрын
Well Spaceballs did the whole sexual energy with lightsabers first.
@johnmontoya8160
@johnmontoya8160 Ай бұрын
"What are you" "I'm a Mog, half man,half dog. I'm my own best friend."
@johnmontoya8160
@johnmontoya8160 Ай бұрын
Bumper sticker: We brake for no one.
@johnmontoya8160
@johnmontoya8160 Ай бұрын
"May the Schwartz be with you."
@tjanderson5892
@tjanderson5892 Ай бұрын
Feel like I see this comment on every Thor video
@drdoomskywalker1731
@drdoomskywalker1731 Ай бұрын
This show makes Solo look like The Godfather.
@hylianglitchmobber7570
@hylianglitchmobber7570 Ай бұрын
Solo's not even a bad movie. Especially compared to the vast majority of garbage Disney's crapped out
@Calvin8419
@Calvin8419 Ай бұрын
lol true haha
@ihavethehighground732
@ihavethehighground732 Ай бұрын
Solos demise was The Last Jedi it’s a good if not just an okay movie.
@NZealand
@NZealand Ай бұрын
I liked this alot more than solo
@neonthunder3261
@neonthunder3261 Ай бұрын
@@hylianglitchmobber7570 Solo was a decent movie tbh, just meh
@ternel
@ternel Ай бұрын
The fact that so many of the disney writers seem to identify more with the Sith really seems to tell you about the character of the writers of the disney era
@Metaphysicist
@Metaphysicist Ай бұрын
Why would writers who may very well be some stripe of social outcast, writer stories that uphold the status qou.
@alvinjohnson2402
@alvinjohnson2402 Ай бұрын
Ikr! They should have just written a "Sith" point of view storyline! Which would have been better! Having them as the main focus of converting a young Jedi into an acolyte to secretly sabotage the Jedi order from within! How hard could it have been to write something coherent?? It's like they are trying to create a whole new world view in Star Wars! And just throwing Yoda in at the end like a cliff hanger is so cliche!
@neutronstarpilot4393
@neutronstarpilot4393 Ай бұрын
​@alvinjohnson2402 That seems like what series two is gearing up to, And I'm assuming Plagueis will have more of a Role in either stopping or colluding with Osha and Qimir?
@mortemtyrannus8813
@mortemtyrannus8813 Ай бұрын
@@Metaphysicist Because the status quo in this case is literally good vs evil, and if you're championing evil, well I've got some bad news for you.
@ternel
@ternel Ай бұрын
@@Metaphysicist star wars is a series based on the idea of good vs evil. Sure, if you want grey that works fine in the series, look at andor. But when you're writing jedi vs sith, it's literally good vs evil. Anyone who is an antagonist to the jedi is going to be evil. It's ok to show the jedi as flawed, but flawed isn't evil. The show just doesn't work because the audience doesn't buy the idea the witches are anything but evil. The audience is expected to side against Sol because he stabbed the mother who was turning into some demon monster thing. Jedi good. Sith bad. That is a fundamental bedrock of star wars and really, bad guys being bad while good guys being good is fundamental to basic writing.
@DarkMayhem666
@DarkMayhem666 Ай бұрын
The Acolyte is like the ‘Last Airbender Movie’ for Star Wars fans: we all agree it never existed, and if someone brings it up, we act like they’re talking about a bad dream.
@mitchellalexander9162
@mitchellalexander9162 Ай бұрын
Yeah That's probably whats going to happen to this show in hindsight. Even among the Disney Star Wars fans. I would like Complete Decanonization. But that's a realistic outcome.
@javierlopez9789
@javierlopez9789 Ай бұрын
At least that movie doesnt mess with the canon of the show like korra does.
@mitchellalexander9162
@mitchellalexander9162 Ай бұрын
@@javierlopez9789 The Firebenders having to carry Torches everywhere was stupid.
@thirdcoinedge
@thirdcoinedge Ай бұрын
...It wasn't that bad. THAT was an incompetence of filmmaking on a staggering level. This? This is fairly OK by that standard.
@lyndalarose9200
@lyndalarose9200 Ай бұрын
I think Last Airbender is better than this series.
@paulab5264
@paulab5264 Ай бұрын
What kind of moral compass does Lesley Headland even have? Osha joins Quimir (who murdered Yord and Jecki) she force chokes Sol to death when a better choice would be to hear him out, and as Mae (of all people) suggested , make him confess the truth of what happened on Brendok to the Jedi council. Also Osha and Mae "love " each other but agree to separate and essentially lobotomize Mae so Osha can go be a Sith, leaving Mae with the mind of an 8 year old and in the jedi's custody. So the twins, knowing the truth and finally reunited, instead of exploring this decide to separate again. Mae never faces consequences for the murder of Torbin and Indara (who did nothing wrong except to free Kelnacca from mind control and accidentally kill the coven). The witches themselves are never held to any accountability. Vernestra, who was Quimir's jedi master, lies about the whole thing and frames Sol for crimes he never committed. He screwed up and acted impulsively on brendok, he was not a butcher, and he did not kill the other Jedi. I hope there is a backlash to this show so Headland and the other creators can see where they went wrong.
@dereklopez9060
@dereklopez9060 Ай бұрын
So let me get this straight. Yoda can sense Anakin slaughtering the Tuskins and the Jedi getting wiped out in Order 66, yet couldn't sense Smilo Ren slaughtering the Jedi left and right from the very beginning? WTF is this? And to add insult to injury, Vernestra and The Jedi covered up all evidence while Sol died like a chump and then they blamed him for all the deaths that was caused by Smilo Ren? Unbelievable. This entire show went from stupid to disgustingly insulting, its mind boggling.
@Bacontats
@Bacontats Ай бұрын
It’s so ridiculous. No other Jedi could sense it either.
@nikolaimyhre1187
@nikolaimyhre1187 Ай бұрын
1) Order 66 was far bigger than Qimir killing the jedi in this show, it changed the whole balance of dark/light side of the force for the entire galaxy. It was the moment the Emperor took over. 2) Yoda sensing Anakin was also part of the same since he was the chosen one to bring balance, and him killing the tuskans was the first step on his path to the dark side. But yeah, I still hear you though. 3) Yeah the Jedi are shown as corrupt and flawed in this series, but what can one really expect from an organisation that kidnaps kids and teach them to detach from bonds and emotions anyway... The Jedi was always flawed, it's just not all the fans who want to realize it.
@wezletbullock7424
@wezletbullock7424 Ай бұрын
@@nikolaimyhre1187holy fuck are you really coping that hard to defend this show?
@sagetaylor5694
@sagetaylor5694 Ай бұрын
To add insult to injury, this garbage cost $180 MILLION DOLLARS!? Disney needs to track down where the money actually went… Headland, the legit Acolyte of Harvey Weinstein!
@romelmunoz7957
@romelmunoz7957 Ай бұрын
​@@nikolaimyhre1187and what's the logic of saying Sol killed Indara and Torbin when on the first killing he was on Coruscant and they have a witness who saw Mae killing Indara and when Torbin took his life there were other Jedis and Yord with Jackie alongside Sol?? That's not proof of Jedi incompetence that's proof of poor writing 😅😅😅
@jamesc8968
@jamesc8968 Ай бұрын
How the fuck did he get accused of Torbin's death when he was with the group that found his body. He didnt even sneak off with Osha and get there before everyone. WTF!
@willfilmon182
@willfilmon182 Ай бұрын
How do u expect 2 b able 2 enjoy this show if u won't stop using ur brain?
@ge2719
@ge2719 Ай бұрын
@@willfilmon182 don't ask questions just consume product.
@rikard.h
@rikard.h Ай бұрын
Because the group that found Torbin's body all got killed in episode 5? With no witnesses she can stage whatever scenario she likes.
@ge2719
@ge2719 Ай бұрын
@@rikard.h they didnt, the two jedi from the jedi temple didnt go with them, they stayed at the temple. remember the fat one...
@ianmckee4726
@ianmckee4726 Ай бұрын
Osha/Mae killed Indara/ Torbin, under thr guidance of a fallen master Sol. Then Sol, awith the help of the twins kills the strike team and Kelnacca. Perhaps Kelnacca tells the other Jedi about the truth of Brendoc before he can be killed, forcing Sol to kill the witnesses. Then the 3 killers go back to Brendoc and Sol kills himself in shame for his deeds, or perhaps thr dsrk jedi Osha betrays him as is the way of the dark. The point is no one is claiming 5hat Sol personally kill3d the others, Mae and Osha fit quite nicely into any numb3r of theories that Vernestra wishes to write to wrao this up in a nice bow.
@mrsoandsoso2537
@mrsoandsoso2537 Ай бұрын
Well, it looks like the acolyte broke Thor's spirit, and it's not hard to see why...
@Deuteromis
@Deuteromis Ай бұрын
You can hear the frustration in his voice. Can't wait to hear his wife's take on this.
@TheSpectacledOwl
@TheSpectacledOwl Ай бұрын
It broke A LOT of reasonable Star Wars KZfaqrs like Thor and Theory. Theory was LIVID after his watch “party”.
@dimentdash
@dimentdash Ай бұрын
It's almost like you shouldn't keep watching a show you don't like if your just going to feel worse off. Not good for mental health.
@Rakshiir
@Rakshiir Ай бұрын
If you watch this show and ignore anything about Lore, it still can drive you crazy, characters don't act like normal human beings, basic things like time and space are nonsensical. Character motivations change for no reason, plotholes all over the place. If you then add the issues lorewise, it gets even worse. Many characters would act stupid and nonsensical for normal human beings, but if you add that they are supposed to be Jedi or even Jedi masters - people who act with rationality, who value wisdom very highly due to their training, it is laughably stupid how they act. Some people called this show fanfiction and I think that is true, but it is really bad fan fiction that shows the level of intellect by the writing team. When a satire like Spaceballs makes more sense than this one and seem to still have more respect for Star Wars, then you know there are alot of issues going on.
@outerworldsreviews
@outerworldsreviews Ай бұрын
​@dimentdash That's bad faith. Thor is a lifelong Star Wars fan who is lucky enough to make his living talking about the franchise he loves. It may be a self-made situation, but it's churlish to pretend there aren't bigger implications for him when Star Wars is this bad, and it's mean spirited to effectively say "just stop watching".
@LumVaughan
@LumVaughan Ай бұрын
So many online now think it was so 'cool' when Osha's Lightsaber blade changed color when she apparently (and seemingly unconsciously) bled the Kyber crystal. Anakin chops off Mace Windu's hand, leads a battalion of troops into the Jedi Temple to kill everyone, personally kills a bunch of Younglings, Force Chokes Padme and has a long fight with Obi Wan, all the time, his lightsaber remains blue. Osha force chokes her former master and immediately she bleeds it and it becomes red. This is typically stupid effects to get the easily excited and mentally dull viewers excited without any thought to continuity to other events. If the 'Chosen One' couldn't quickly turn a Kyber Crystal red unconsciously, why would Osha be able to? Because she (and Mae) are a Vergence in the Force? Anakin was as well. Continuity, Lucasfilm, continuity!
@Warner2002
@Warner2002 Ай бұрын
That whole bleeding crystal thing was always a stupid idea. No idea why they went with that explanation.
@ghiggs8389
@ghiggs8389 Ай бұрын
Anakin never killed any of them without a weapon, he used the Youngling Slayer 2000 to do all of those acts, which was his own lightsaber. OSHA killed Sol without a weapon, and the saber was his.
@DiegoGrosso828
@DiegoGrosso828 Ай бұрын
Crystals bleeding and turning red was such a stupid idea. General griveous also comited a shit ton of war crimes while weilding multiple sabers from murdered jedi and the sabers never turned red while comiting such vile acts, even more stupid the dead star is powered by the same crystals, capable of destroying planets and still the beam comes out green instead of red
@drdoomskywalker1731
@drdoomskywalker1731 Ай бұрын
The Force is Female. Never forget that. Dave Filoni encourages it.
@Cdre_Satori
@Cdre_Satori Ай бұрын
Yeah, But Anakin had some good in him. Osha is pure Eeeevil letting her evilness flow out and stopped pretending she is good.
@ironjehoshaphat2764
@ironjehoshaphat2764 Ай бұрын
I like how Mae forgets to say that her mother started to turn into a ghost thing and turn her into a ghost thing too. This caused Sol to kill her mother to save Mae...
@Bcorcoran100
@Bcorcoran100 Ай бұрын
The moral is when an evil black smoke monster appears you need to stop and understand the systems that exist before you make an assumption and pull the trigger. Just because all the signs are saying that if the black smoke monster finishes its transformation it was going to be violent, does not give you the right to make an assumption. Sometimes evil black smoke monsters are a result of the systems that you created, and if it ends up hurting you, it kinda is your own fault.
@arcadicus_ezevius
@arcadicus_ezevius Ай бұрын
:/
@patriciaa65
@patriciaa65 Ай бұрын
Yup, Osha and Mae act like this was an act of cold blood. It was all due to miscommunication and misinterpretation. 🤦🏻‍♀️
@Blisterdude123
@Blisterdude123 Ай бұрын
Basically every single part of the Acolyte's idiotic story requires every character to do or say the dumbest thing possible at any and every given moment. Because that's the only way Headland can air her dirty laundry and work out her issues in the form of a 180 million dollar fanfiction hatchet job.
@DarthTalon5
@DarthTalon5 Ай бұрын
​@@patriciaa65 I wouldn't even argue misinterpretation. The shadow ghost thing was literally Aniseya making her and Mae one with the force which by all accounts means they would've died and no one can say otherwise. You can't entire the afterlife and still be alive. Miscommunication is a bit more accurate, but not quite. Aniseya is deliberately combative and vague toward Sol until she is stabbed. Mae has every reason to just lie to Osha. Sol doesn't add the shadow ghost detail because the script forces him not to.
@mrcat3493
@mrcat3493 Ай бұрын
This show is the most nonsensical thing I have seen in a long time. It’s baffling how the script got approved.
@nikolaimyhre1187
@nikolaimyhre1187 Ай бұрын
It's actually a good script seen from a non-hardcore star wars fans perspective
@korbendallas12
@korbendallas12 Ай бұрын
Not really baffling given who gave the okay for the script and show.KK said she cried tears of joy after reading the script.
@Cuban-J
@Cuban-J Ай бұрын
@nikolaimyhre1187 I’m a normie. Not a Star Wars fan at all and even I thought the writing was trash.
@user-us9yg5wq6i
@user-us9yg5wq6i Ай бұрын
@@nikolaimyhre1187 idk man, this whole show feels like a cheap azz cheezy drama on free tv. But it cost 180 million......
@TuckerBowChicka1
@TuckerBowChicka1 Ай бұрын
@@nikolaimyhre1187 You're not a 'non-hardcore star wars fan' you're just someone with horrible taste that doesn't know good writing from shit. Most non hardcore Star Wars fans find this shows writing horrible, even a child could tell how horribly written this series is. This show is just flat out horribly written, and is even worse as part of Star Wars.
@weezyslob
@weezyslob Ай бұрын
I really don’t know what I’m meant to take away from this show. Osha flips sides, becomes evil, joins her friends murderer and holds his hand at the end while swelling music plays. Am I meant to feel she’s the hero, am I meant to identify with the protagonist here? Genuinely, fuck this show. They made the Jedi evil, murderers, people who cover up crimes, framed as a crazy cult. They made Yoda complicit to, I mean wow. And on top of it just being bad, it’s boring, they wasted minutes of screen time just showing Sol walk around yelling “Mae!”, like why do we need to see this, we’re already limited on time. This show will not get a season 2 unless Disney likes to just set money on fire. I think I just need to stop watching Disney Star Wars, because even though it’s not canon to me, it’s still ruining some things for me. The audacity of Headland to insert so many of her crazy ideas like this is kind of angering, to make these “twins” the first to do all these things, to break Lucas canon to the extent she has, man it’s painful.
@DeCode343
@DeCode343 Ай бұрын
I like how your comment stops at "Am I meant to feel" when you dont click on read more😅😂
@michaelfields7088
@michaelfields7088 Ай бұрын
Advice from a lifelong Star Wars fan whose first memory is seeing Return of the Jedi with my parents in 1983, is to stop watching and give less views and more views for content creators.
@tubby1833
@tubby1833 Ай бұрын
Damn bro I can feel the heartbreak radiating from your comment. We feel you man. We feel you.
@richardcastillos2896
@richardcastillos2896 Ай бұрын
I am just waiting for Andor at this point at least the writing and characters are taken serious
@dereklopez9060
@dereklopez9060 Ай бұрын
Osha throughout the entire show: I'm gonna be bad. Nope, I'm gonna be good. Nah, I'm gonna fall in love with a Jedi murderer. My God, she is so inconsistent and indecisive. But apparently, I'm racist for not endorsing a horribly written character.
@kellingc
@kellingc Ай бұрын
I'm sorry, every time I hear the name Osha, I keep thinking "Occupational Safety and Health Administration". I don't think Star Wars. I remember when Lucasfilm was making "Return of the Jedi". The original title was going to be "Revenge of the Jedi", but George felt that revenge was not in line with what a Jedi was supposed to be about. Thus, it was renamed to "Return of The Jedi". When that announcement came out, I remember my 15 year old self was thinking that make perfect sense. This - this just doesn't seem to make sense.
@noah_body_cares
@noah_body_cares Ай бұрын
The last thing I wanted the show to do was drag Sol's reputation through the mud, but they dragged it through No Man's Land. Probably the most compassionate Jedi the order has had for decades, he gets pinned for murdering his best friend, a defenseless meditating man, a wookie, and 6 other jedi including his own padawan. And now the history books of Star Wars will forever shit on the name Sol without knowing the truth
@ge2719
@ge2719 Ай бұрын
maybe season 2 is supposed to have the whole thing be exposed, and greatly reduce the jedis powers/ correct the lack of oversight or some bs. i wouldnt be surprised if they try to tie it into the prequels and how the emperor is able to gain power... making it so that was only possible because osha exposed it all...
@mkhud50n
@mkhud50n Ай бұрын
Well we know he’s one of the best Jedi right? His reputation is only tarnished because he got framed for it all.
@14dfree
@14dfree Ай бұрын
@@mkhud50nwe not in the star wars verse bruh ☠️
@mkhud50n
@mkhud50n Ай бұрын
@@14dfree we are in a universe where people are so dumbed down they can’t even try to figure out things anymore and just repeat what they heard other people saying.
@viniciuscardoso8056
@viniciuscardoso8056 Ай бұрын
No one care for season 2​@@ge2719
@MichaelJosephSonger
@MichaelJosephSonger Ай бұрын
No actual Jedi were harmed in the production of this show.
@Olorin-gc8zo
@Olorin-gc8zo Ай бұрын
This comment deserves more likes. :)
@sealionstudios8597
@sealionstudios8597 Ай бұрын
(Dooku's voice) Good. Very good.
@michaeldougherty2807
@michaeldougherty2807 Ай бұрын
Dark Helmet described the Jedi, "Evil will triumph because good is stupid. "
@robf228
@robf228 Ай бұрын
Sol especially.
@pufffincrazy5275
@pufffincrazy5275 Ай бұрын
The actual quote is good is dumb, but yes very apt
@mrkeego1769
@mrkeego1769 Ай бұрын
All it took in The Phantom Menace was for Qui Gon to say his adversary was trained in the Jedi arts and to SUGGEST that it might be a Sith Lord for the Council to take the possibility of a Sith return seriously and task him with rooting out Maul. At that point in the movie, no Jedi were even harmed. In the Acolyte we have the same scenario where the Council, albeit a lower council, very clearly say this assailant must have been trained in the Jedi arts but nobody seems to want to finish that thought to the conclusion of it being a Sith, and there were already two bodies. Now with them all gone, apparently that's call for a complete coverup to allow for the rise of the Sith and the downfall of their Order in a hundred years. And yes, this now means Ki Adi Mundi is a slimy weasel who was complicit in all of this, and attempted to downplay the severity of the presence of Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace. This is not even the worst part - for now the only person who cared about the droid attack on the Wookies turns out to be a traitor to the Order
@neutronstarpilot4393
@neutronstarpilot4393 Ай бұрын
To be fair they did essentially tell Qui Gon to calm down and not jump to conclusions, It wasn't until the duel in Theed and the Sith deciding it was time to reveal themselves, Because their plan was set in motion the Jedi knew. Here we have Qimir who is essentially a dark side user combining different dark side religions and philosophies, Evoking the idea of the Sith, while also claiming to be something new And with Plagueis in the shadows, Qimir might have attracted the wrong kind of attention. And the Jedi have a plausible out, with a Jedi gone rogue, Which has happened, look at Qui Gon's apprentice Xanatos.
@mrkeego1769
@mrkeego1769 Ай бұрын
@@neutronstarpilot4393 my point is that though, even though they told him not to jump to a conclusion that would confirm the return of an adversary long since thought dead they still took the necessary precautions on the horrible chance Qui Gon was right about what he encountered. Yes Theed confirmed it outright but they still investigated the claim
@neutronstarpilot4393
@neutronstarpilot4393 Ай бұрын
@@mrkeego1769 To be fair to the show, the Jedi are investigating and their investigation was covered up By Vanestra who has something to hide with her former apprentice going rogue The Jedi do have fallen Jedi to deal with from time to time, but that's different than an out and out Sith Lord, And the council never got the report back that Qimir name dropped the Sith, So that never became part of the investigation, And the show was hinting at the Siths involvement in the politics on Coruscant attacking and manipulating the Jedi from that side. And in speculation, is it possible Vanestra is an agent of the Sith to infiltrate the Jedi order? I can see how that would be helpful and dangerous for the Sith to attempt something like that, So there's some points in the shows favour and one speculative position.
@mrkeego1769
@mrkeego1769 Ай бұрын
@@neutronstarpilot4393 I don't think I buy any of that. To your first point, the Jedi really aren't investigating. That lower council agreed for no good reason to keep it under wraps and investigate themselves, which doesn't even matter because I don't believe for a second that people aren't going to start asking questions about where all their buddies have disappeared to and I equally highly doubt that everyone is going to be convinced by Vanestra's attempt to pin it on Sol. As to the point on fallen Jedi, that's neat. Doesn't really matter though because we know he's a Sith now, and even still that was my point in my initial comment saying it only took the suggestion of it being someone trained in the Jedi arts and could possibly be a Sith Lord for the Council to take the concern seriously enough to prompt an investigation. Much like Darth Smilo here, they didn't know that their assailant, Maul, was a Sith. He well could have been a fallen Jedi too, but it didn't matter for them to start the investigation in the first place. So Sith being outright name dropped wouldn't have changed anything. Qui Gon only suggests it based on what he fought, which happens to be the same amount of information the Jedi know. As to your speculation... Why? What gives you the idea that Vanestra is secretly a Sith? She made it clear from the first episode she doesn't want word getting to the senate and their political enemies for fear that it might spark an investigation and ultimately undermine their power. Surely if she was a Sith on the inside she'd welcome the Jedi having their powers reduced, as it would make a Sith victory over them much easier. Even Palpatine recognised that having an army loyal to the senate and ultimately him was better than relying on the Jedi to do his work all the time, thus undermining their own efforts in the Clone Wars. Don't write the show for the writers my friend. Your already giving it far more credit than it deserves and far more work than the current writers have done
@officialthomasjames
@officialthomasjames Ай бұрын
Disney thrives on character assassination.
@MegaQuistis
@MegaQuistis Ай бұрын
On Twitter, cat moms and h*rny teenagers are already going crazy about how wonderful The Acolyte is... This is what Star Wars has become - fan fic smut... I'm sad that beautiful years of canon being built have been reduced to a cheap romance😢.
@Deuteromis
@Deuteromis Ай бұрын
Those shills love that green milk.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
Triggered much?
@MegaQuistis
@MegaQuistis Ай бұрын
​@@DeuteromisYes, and I didn't think I would live to see the fall of something as wonderful as Star Wars. I feel embarrassed, even though Acolyte is supposedly created for women... I should be happy, right?
@MegaQuistis
@MegaQuistis Ай бұрын
@@achaudhari101 No, definitely not, more saddened by what Star Wars has become...
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
@@MegaQuistis I mean if not that then probably jealous since they got some enjoyment out of it unlike you. Also the h*rny teens part? That’s been going on since Hayden was shirtless in two movies.
@NefariousSpecter
@NefariousSpecter Ай бұрын
This show set out to make the audience question the Jedi Order and left the audience questioning the IQ level of everyone behind this show
@darthtroller
@darthtroller Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@davechan8613
@davechan8613 Ай бұрын
I was waiting for Spock to beam in and start slapping everyone while saying “This is completely illogical.”
@arkoftruth5583
@arkoftruth5583 Ай бұрын
With everything that has happened, spock showing up in the star wars universe and doing just that would make more sense than this crap
@captainvader921
@captainvader921 Ай бұрын
I genuinely cannot believe that we are supposed to root for the main character to join the bad guys. What has Star Wars become?
@Napoleonic_S
@Napoleonic_S Ай бұрын
A Palpatine has inherited the Skywalker legacy half a decade ago, what do you expect today? LMAO
@takuid
@takuid Ай бұрын
@@Napoleonic_S Coming of Thursday was clear from the coming of Wednesday type of beat. This was all a progression and people acting like they are now outraged is hilarious. Have you guys been blind when Sequel trilogy, Mandolorian, Obi-wan, Boba Fett, Ahsoka, Jedi: Survivor been released? Jedi are dumb and evil has been the main theme of Disney Star Wars since the very beginning.
@nont18411
@nont18411 Ай бұрын
I mean…we kinda root for Anakin though but that’s because he had his eventual redemption to back it up. Osha has none.
@Peterski
@Peterski Ай бұрын
they're probably thinking they're so smart, RRrrredemption arc setup! Sigh... This show is so fucking bad...
@ciro_costa
@ciro_costa Ай бұрын
No. The show is a tragedy. There isn't a good ending.
@vilnv
@vilnv Ай бұрын
It is genuinely depressing how George Lucas’ philosophy of how the Jedi and the space opera/western feel is essentially dead and destroyed. He was right when he said the fictional space lacked simple heroism. Everything today has to be “gritty” “realistic” but no longer fantastical. I’m not even angry about this just sad because the dialogue about this show will be for the wrong reasons.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
Lucas would have done all of these things you’re hating.
@wadewilson8011
@wadewilson8011 Ай бұрын
Nothing you said is even the actual problems with this series. Every point you made was completely irrelevant to the dumpster fire of this so-called show.
@willpoweramv
@willpoweramv Ай бұрын
​@@achaudhari101No the fuck he wouldn't? Why do you even think that?
@mpnuorva
@mpnuorva Ай бұрын
@@achaudhari101 Then why is it TCW multimediaproject's very similar depiction of the Jedi got retconned the moment Lucas got involved?
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
@mpnuorva You mean ‘03 series that wasn’t Canon to him also?
@Starvin-Marvin
@Starvin-Marvin Ай бұрын
When they thought that a former Jedi padawan killed a Jedi Master, Vernestra thought it needed to be covered up because it will look bad on the Jedi… So her cover story is that a Jedi Master killed a dozen Jedi… wait, how is that better?
@mkhud50n
@mkhud50n Ай бұрын
Just like in real life, the coverup is sometimes worse than the crime.
@Blisterdude123
@Blisterdude123 Ай бұрын
Because the Jedi are evil, you see. And the Sith are good. It's EDGY.
@mkhud50n
@mkhud50n Ай бұрын
@@Blisterdude123 the Sith see the Jedi as evil, not the audience. It’s always been that way.
@Blisterdude123
@Blisterdude123 Ай бұрын
@@mkhud50n I don't think the Sith have ever seen the Jedi as 'evil', that's silly. They've seen the Jedi as an obstacle, as foes, and rivals, as enemies. But I don't recall the Sith ever being like 'the Jedi are morally repugnant anyway let me get back to sacrificing thousands of slaves for my acclimation of power'. That's stupid.
@mkhud50n
@mkhud50n Ай бұрын
@@Blisterdude123 they can think those things too. They all probably have different views of the Jedi but in this show they are showing that they think that way. Villains thinking they are the good guys is very common in real life. That’s reality. “From my point of view the Jedi are evil!” - Darth Vader
@outdoortherapy6332
@outdoortherapy6332 Ай бұрын
at the end of the show when the green Jedi lies about sol killing everyone - the first Jedi that got killed by Mae was in a CROWDED BAR WITH AT LEAST 40 WITNESSES. The bar tender identified osha for the Jedi 😭
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave Ай бұрын
The whole thing seems like Headland once had a therapist who had her do one of those therapy writing exercises to work through certain feelings of guilt, and it somehow got used as the basis for a show. "The bad guys aren't evil, the good guys are!"
@Blisterdude123
@Blisterdude123 Ай бұрын
Exactly this. This entire debacle feels like an exercise in Headland just having an axe to grind. She took 180 million dollars to air her personal issues and grievances with the universe, and did a hatchet job on Star Wars in the process. That'll teach her therapist for telling her not to come back.
@Btn1136
@Btn1136 Ай бұрын
Didn’t watch a single episode. Just can’t.
@Deuteromis
@Deuteromis Ай бұрын
Lucky you, I had a co- worker whose husband was watching the show, but after ep5 they just listened to podcasts reviews
@DeCode343
@DeCode343 Ай бұрын
Watch ep4 and 5 you'll at least see one of the best lightsaber fights (maybe 5 only if you don't want the prelude)
@DrMedicsGameSurgery
@DrMedicsGameSurgery Ай бұрын
@@DeCode343 clone wars and prequels had better fights imo
@Calvin8419
@Calvin8419 Ай бұрын
Me who’s watched the show: “what’ve I done?”
@NZealand
@NZealand Ай бұрын
@@Deuteromiswhat a loser
@CloneCaptainKeeli
@CloneCaptainKeeli Ай бұрын
Star Wars didn’t die, it was murdered. Murdered by a combination of malice, incompetence and investor money from less than moral individuals. Me and my father have loved this franchise for so long, it was the only thing that we both enjoyed, a piece of connective tissue between father and son. Something George wanted from his films. That love is gone now, destroyed violently, to the point that neither of us care anymore. That connection torn to shreds by people who couldn’t care less. They look down at us, they call us bigots and all manner of names, when all me and my father wanted was a story that we could enjoy and connect with. Thank you Thor for all that you do, but I don’t know if I can continue to watch anything Star Wars related. The apathy has passed setting in, I just don’t care anymore and if I try to all I find is pain. Once again, thank you for being a beacon of common sense in the Star Wars community, I hope that one day we can all enjoy Star Wars once more.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
Your apathy makes you a villain to the franchise as well.
@ilikepokemans54
@ilikepokemans54 Ай бұрын
@@achaudhari101 Being an villain to this franchise is a badge of honor under its current administration. Disney is anti-star wars, we must be pro-star wars and rebel. Go back to your hole smeagol
@neutronstarpilot4393
@neutronstarpilot4393 Ай бұрын
I mean some people liked the show, Star Wars is a big galaxy, I don't think everyone is going to like everything. I don't think, The Ewoks movies or the holiday special or certain novels like the Dark nest ones are top of anyone's list So I think perspective, there will be other stories and hopefully ones you connect with more.
@MiraBoo
@MiraBoo Ай бұрын
My dad and I (father and daughter) also bonded over Star Wars and LotR, so I completely understand how valuable that shared interest/connection is. And it absolutely sucks that Disney ruined that cherished experience for both you and your dad. Personally, I refuse to let Disney destroy my affection for the original or prequel trilogies. They don’t get to have that power. There’s even a few things Disney has done with Star Wars (like Mando S1-S2 and the Siege of Mandalore) that I still quite like. However, I am insulted by Disney’s utter incompetence and am apathetic to anything Star Wars currently has to offer (beyond the exceptions mentioned above). Somehow Disney has managed to completely butcher a beloved franchise and its legacy. Truly an outstanding feat of incredible ineptitude.
@Rich_H_1972
@Rich_H_1972 Ай бұрын
@@achaudhari101 How you doing shill-boy?
@tubby1833
@tubby1833 Ай бұрын
Twitter: OMG Osha and Qmir are holding hands and staring off into the sunset! So romantic yessss! 😢❤ Qmir: I murdered innocent people. 💀 Leslie Headlan: I murdered Star Wars. 😊
@AllanRamires1988
@AllanRamires1988 Ай бұрын
Imagine turning a crystal red over sheer hatred and then crying over saying good bye to your sis then holding hands with your boyfriend, lol? That’s a sith in 2024
@chewy_bucca
@chewy_bucca Ай бұрын
No yessss, yaaaaaaaassssss!
@MasticinaAkicta
@MasticinaAkicta Ай бұрын
But he is the baddest of bad boys and "SHE CAN FIX HIM" ...hahahahahaha soo stupid.
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 Ай бұрын
@@chewy_bucca Hey, they got the ladies attention, wasn't he trending after episode 6? Never knew Manny Jacinto's name and now I am watching The Good Place because of him
@Darkstar-se6wc
@Darkstar-se6wc Ай бұрын
@@suzygirl1843- Doing more good for Manny than it is for the acolyte - the ratings are pathetic.
@supdevan6413
@supdevan6413 Ай бұрын
@9:35 Didn't the Jedi already have proof of the vergance from the blood sample and M-count reading they got from the flashback? That data would have showed the "twins" being basically identical in every way. Why does Sol need Mae as proof? Vernestra was even aware of Mae but thought she was dead so its not like the fact that Osha had a sister that died was hidden from anyone. I really don't understand Sol's motive for needing Mae.
@johnevans4867
@johnevans4867 Ай бұрын
There are so many plotholes, inconsistencies, and incomprehensible things it's literally impossible to keep up with all of them.
@viniciuscardoso8056
@viniciuscardoso8056 Ай бұрын
Nothing has sense in Disney fillers
@LumVaughan
@LumVaughan Ай бұрын
Hey Thor! I thought you might like something I calculated. Rotten Tomatoes’ rating for Star Wars series, calculated by Critic’s score + Audience score divided by two: From top to lowest rating: Star Wars: The Clone Wars series: 92% Andor: 91.5% Star Wars: Rebels: 91% The Bad Batch: 86% The Mandalorian: 84% Ahsoka: 75% Kenobi: 71.5% Star Wars: Resistance: 68.5% The Book of Boba Fett: 57.5% The Acolyte: 48%
@Blisterdude123
@Blisterdude123 Ай бұрын
I think I'd agree with that listing completely.
@mikepatton8691
@mikepatton8691 Ай бұрын
​@@Blisterdude123Personally I'd switch the spots of Star Wars: Resistance and the Boba show, putting Boba ahead of it. I watched all of Boba but lost interest in Resistance after like 3 episodes and stopped watching it.
@captaindc3889
@captaindc3889 Ай бұрын
Darth Plagueis definitely watched Osha and Qimir mess around-
@Deuteromis
@Deuteromis Ай бұрын
Like Smeagal from Lord of the Rings...
@usmanya5110
@usmanya5110 Ай бұрын
i think honestly tenebrous seems more fititng for this part. unless muuns live very long lives.
@InesVandehoof
@InesVandehoof Ай бұрын
No wonder he was disappointed 😂
@rclaws3230
@rclaws3230 Ай бұрын
@@usmanya5110 Plagueis, same alien species, also the point of the show is to add in that Plagueis got the idea for creating a dark-side force entity from women and therefore women were ALWAYS instrumental in the creation of Anakin because men aren't allowed to have agency independent of female influence.
@kingbooomer9231
@kingbooomer9231 Ай бұрын
Plagueis is a freak confirmed
@DeCode343
@DeCode343 Ай бұрын
My disbelieve was suspended too much in this one... The Osha-Mea thing still does not work at all. They killed one of the 3 good characters and had him act like a lobotomite AGAIN. The actor pulled so much out of what was given to him. Sad his role was written like it was. And whats going on with that rat-person, is he just an agent of chaos?!
@AllanRamires1988
@AllanRamires1988 Ай бұрын
I’m baffled people actually liked Sol. A master jedi who is always about to cry, literally getting emotionally affected on every scene. He raises his voice, he almost fist fights Indara.
@ApophisTw0Thousand6309
@ApophisTw0Thousand6309 Ай бұрын
@@AllanRamires1988 The don't like him. They like his actor. I do hope he gets to play a Jedi one day.
@latetotheparty7551
@latetotheparty7551 Ай бұрын
I like the actor but both in and out of show, he wasn't a good Jedi. Lee said, in one interview I watched on Collider, that he wanted to show a Jedi that experienced fear. I get that but that's not what Jedi do, at least not for long, especially at the level of Master. The fact that this was allowed to be a core part of his character, along with his emotional attachment, just shows how much the creators had no respect for source material. To critique Jedi well you must write them well. Victories over incompetents doesn't make the victors look all that good.
@DeCode343
@DeCode343 Ай бұрын
@@AllanRamires1988 I still have to say that everything the prequels (still under direction of Lucas) and prequel adjacent has told the story of the Jedi not beeing the pure source of good that Yoda and Obi-Wan tried to project to Luke in the OG 3. They long overshot the way of good so much that some principles and individuals turned out the other way. Like in politics when you go far enough left or right you kinda end up in the other place.
@Janx14
@Janx14 Ай бұрын
@@AllanRamires1988 I think was okay in the earlier episodes. He's mostly insufferable during the flashback ones because they're trying really hard to make him a problem.
@marsonia2258
@marsonia2258 Ай бұрын
At this point, I get the feeling that Disney Star Wars is sending us the message "women in positions of power absolved from the consequences of their actions lead to dark times and the collapse of society". It starts with Vernestra here and Hera Syndulla (with Leia's blessing) being defiant in front of a legislatory body and leads to Palpatine and The First Order, respectively. Apart from this being rather ominous, it also signals that Disney Lucasfilm is actually a hotbed of internalised misoginy and Acolyte is actually extremely offensive to women holding any power...
@Peterski
@Peterski Ай бұрын
No no, it will surely turn out that a man is responsible in the end, because they didn't listen to the women ;-)
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 Ай бұрын
An interesting twist from the company that's all for Power to Women.
@TheManInBlueFlames
@TheManInBlueFlames Ай бұрын
Yet it’s trying to do the opposite…
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend Ай бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage 🤣🤣🤣
@robinthrush9672
@robinthrush9672 Ай бұрын
This is what happens when people who don't even consider other moral compasses than their own are given blank checks to do as they will with stories. Falcon and the Winter Soldier was the same, as was Captain Marvel.
@PommeDeux
@PommeDeux Ай бұрын
Thor, this channel has been one of the only sources of stability in this storm called The Acolyte. I want to thank you for all of the time and effort you've done coming at this show at as much as an objective angle as you possibly can and explaining why many of us simply refuse to acknowledge this series as good like many people blind to its faults want us to. I read a comment saying that people criticizing the Acolyte and giving it less than stellar remarks are "engaging in a special kind of toxicity in going out of your way to ruin other people's fun" and that despite all the irreverent treatment of the Star War in this show, that the "existence of The Acolyte does nothing to degrade the experience of watching other parts of the Star Wars universe, just like the existence of Andor does nothing to improve the Rise of Skywalker". The comment even goes as far as to say that this "toxic fanbase" is motivated by "the dark side" and that we "want to destroy joy, to obscure stories, and take away the ability for people to experience things on their own without prejudice, and make their own decisions." I can't help but feel so detached from this point of view where someone receiving even a smidgen of (in my opinion necessary) push back in regards to the handling of the show just sticks their head in the sand and calls everyone toxic when trying to explain and elucidate the many flaws that this piece of media has. I can't fathom it. If we can't have any grounds of objectivity in dialogue when judging a piece of Star Wars work we may as well get rid of canon all together.
@onkelseverus
@onkelseverus Ай бұрын
In the end, we can be glad that someone at Disney was able to dissuade Leslye from writing Vulcans, Daleks and the One Ring into the series.
@kimmccarthy7747
@kimmccarthy7747 Ай бұрын
Well, if she had, someone with intelligence might have stepped up and stopped this mess before it ever got made.
@popuri48
@popuri48 Ай бұрын
The “you missed the entire point of the Prequels” crowd is incapable of understanding that being flawed is different from being in the wrong. Just because the Jedi are flawed doesn’t mean their ideals are unjust.
@ford_prefect1656
@ford_prefect1656 Ай бұрын
@@popuri48 Or that they dont know that themselfs and try everything possible to superhuman to be as unbiased and helpful possible.
@paolopesare3566
@paolopesare3566 Ай бұрын
Thank you for saying this. I hate when I read hard sentences about the Jedi in the prequels. The Jedi Lost their way during the Clone Wars, but they are not the villains of the story.
@elicrodriguez
@elicrodriguez Ай бұрын
Just and unjust is just a matter of opinion. But still, the Jedi are supposed to be portrayed as the heroes of the story
@jamesneese7663
@jamesneese7663 Ай бұрын
The jedi are changed from flawed heroes to dirty, corrupt cops having no honor or loyaty while sith are freedom loving, honorable, misunderstood good guys. Let that sink in. That is the modernist re context of the jedi.
@georgecisneros5281
@georgecisneros5281 Ай бұрын
I swear, this show is written like something written by a person who has literally never written anything before in their life!😳🤨
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend Ай бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage 🤣🤣🤣
@maxo.9928
@maxo.9928 Ай бұрын
​@@UrMomWifeBoyfriendhow's the echochamber? Loud in there?
@grantstratton2239
@grantstratton2239 Ай бұрын
​@@maxo.9928To be fair, Thor's reviews have been way more kind and slow to judge than many of the KZfaqrs out there. I'd say if he gives a review like this, it's pretty damning.
@michalbednar7955
@michalbednar7955 Ай бұрын
lets hope he/she will never ever write anything again.
@mannshambles7006
@mannshambles7006 Ай бұрын
Back in the olden times a senate council would meet in a teeny lil broom closet where they barely fit. Back in those same olden times people had a different goal every two minutes. One minute you were fighting a deadly stranger with Jedi like powers the next minute you were getting force chocked by a mechanic. It was wacky. One minute you're tossing people 30 ft. with a flick of your fingers the next minute you're taking orders from them. What a world. A world of Wars and Stars.
@ge2719
@ge2719 Ай бұрын
that scene was hilarious. the whole jedi place looked like crap. the head womans office, the chair, the desk, all looked like an awful place to work. it looked like a imperial star destroyer if it was built by a bunch of teenagers who through it would be cool to paint stripes on things.
@mannshambles7006
@mannshambles7006 Ай бұрын
@@ge2719 Not to mention the interior of their ship looking like an 80s Taco Bell. I guess that's just how it was back in the olden times of the Medium Republic.
@PAGrunt
@PAGrunt Ай бұрын
So let me get this straight. Harvey Weinstien's Personal Assistants Wife is the big bad and most important at the end? Im shocked, shocked i tell you
@rlhicks1
@rlhicks1 Ай бұрын
~ Light sabers are now Mood sabers ~ Red saber: angry Blue saber: calm Green saber: thinking about the money you're getting paid for phoning it in Purple saber: pimpin' it Yellow saber: didn't take a "break" before the long trip Orange saber: Didn't take a "break" and now very angry about that!
@dontghostbanmeplz8788
@dontghostbanmeplz8788 Ай бұрын
Pink saber: watching those Starhub scenes
@outerworldsreviews
@outerworldsreviews Ай бұрын
No Thor, thank YOU for watching. I'm grateful to you for taking that hit for us.
@JustinWillisDevil240Z
@JustinWillisDevil240Z Ай бұрын
sad. you are sad.
@outerworldsreviews
@outerworldsreviews Ай бұрын
@@JustinWillisDevil240Z Nah man, I'm alright 🙂
@Starwarslegorob
@Starwarslegorob Ай бұрын
What did I just watch ? Does nobody care at the Temple what has happened? Yoda felt nothing ? I can’t even begin to understand what this was ! The defenders of this series can argue with themselves, I give up !
@neutronstarpilot4393
@neutronstarpilot4393 Ай бұрын
I mean they don't really show Yoda, so we don't know? He probably did, but in that "I fear something terrible has happened" Way Jedi understand awful events He would still need to be told specifics.
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend Ай бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage 🤣🤣🤣
@mitchellalexander9162
@mitchellalexander9162 Ай бұрын
I drew the Red Line of Fuck Disney Canon even before this show existed. It was an Uphill battle and everything it did was just a Very Elaborate and Self aggrandizing Suicide Attempt...And it sure did Neck itself.
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Ай бұрын
​@@neutronstarpilot4393and there this falls apart. Yoda isn't stupid. He can spot deceit. Vendetta lying would face prison for such a lie
@jameslikesit
@jameslikesit Ай бұрын
"But they put Yoda and Plagueis in it, why aren't you soy-facing?!"
@captainmanic
@captainmanic Ай бұрын
Why did that rat sabotage Sols ship and nearly get them all killed?
@willfilmon182
@willfilmon182 Ай бұрын
Why did that rat Mickey sabotaged modern Star Wars?
@teruphoto
@teruphoto Ай бұрын
Closest I can figure is that he felt Sol was going to shoot Mae's ship. But Bazil knows Mae is evil, so I don't know what his motive was.
@ge2719
@ge2719 Ай бұрын
i just dont get why it took him so long to get a target lock on a ship about 10meters away that wasnt taking any evasive action what so ever, just flying in a straight line...
@captainmanic
@captainmanic Ай бұрын
@@teruphoto There`s just so many things that don`t make sense to me...
@bliss000
@bliss000 Ай бұрын
So, the Jedi council didn't question Bazil the sole survivor of this mission?
@schk3
@schk3 Ай бұрын
Yord Fandar -(probably) the only jedi who understood him - is dead ;)
@DisplayThisOkay
@DisplayThisOkay Ай бұрын
@@schk3 I refuse to belive they use him as a tracker and only one man can translate for him. What if Yord is on another mission, what if he is injure or, taking a dump on the toilet? Does Bazil just wander around the temple sniffing everyone's pant legs until Yord tells him to stop?
@dieselcat7567
@dieselcat7567 Ай бұрын
You forgot the biggest mystery of all: Why the heck did the gopher yank out the wires in the ship when Sol was chasing down Mae? 😂
@programmedgamer7101
@programmedgamer7101 Ай бұрын
I gathered it when I saw the targeting computer, but Sol told his story, Bazil understood it as the script required, interrupting Sol as he tries to... shoot down Mae? It wasn't enough to trash Sol. They made Bazil a jedi cover-up accomplice because Sol randomly killing Mae, a jedi killer, is too far for a tracker who shouldn't care. It's just fake tension again. There was no feeling that Mae was in danger because Sol basically chased her for a minute and was foiled by the merchandise alien as soon as he did anything more.
@Lobsterwithinternet
@Lobsterwithinternet Ай бұрын
"It took the combined ingredients of idiocy, ineptitude, and total disengagement for this farce to have reached the full apex of incredulous disaster."
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave Ай бұрын
Quote from a far, far better show.
@programmedgamer7101
@programmedgamer7101 Ай бұрын
​@CantankerousDave You watch any 5 seconds of Andor, and it's whiplash coming from this.
@TB-iq7gx
@TB-iq7gx Ай бұрын
#SyrilDidNothingWrong
@lotuschamp7796
@lotuschamp7796 Ай бұрын
"Shit in a box and call it a day" apparently this is the new motto over at Disney Star Wars
@Just_Danny_X64
@Just_Danny_X64 Ай бұрын
My biggest problem with this episode - and indeed the entire show - is that it only left me thinking things like "What?" and "Why?" Even when we were given answers to some of the "mysteries", they still seemed to raise more questions than they answered.
@Janx14
@Janx14 Ай бұрын
Indeed. The 2nd flashback episode left me wondering where the third flashback episode that'd actually explain things would be...as it seemed to make even less sense than the first one.
@geneoliva9584
@geneoliva9584 Ай бұрын
It was weird that she made a Kyber Crystal just by holding the hilt...Vader was doing it wrong
@MetalMilitia83
@MetalMilitia83 Ай бұрын
Weinstein’s assistant should never be allowed to create another tv show.
@slamurai5623
@slamurai5623 Ай бұрын
If it wasn't obvious before, they totally tipped their hand when the senator gave his speech about how he felt towards the Jedi. That monologue was 100% Disney's Lucasfilm projecting their true feelings about the Jedi into the show.
@Ferox2121
@Ferox2121 Ай бұрын
Yep, i was thinking the same. This was Kathleen Kennedy speaking here, not the senator.
@mkhud50n
@mkhud50n Ай бұрын
People keep thinking this show is about hating on the Jedi when it clearly isn’t. It’s trying to show how the Sith and Jedi balance each other. The Jedi are good but flawed while the Sith are bad but have a point. Those are the dots in the yin and yang. Totally consistent with the rest of Star Wars. ☯️
@engineerforthefuture8593
@engineerforthefuture8593 Ай бұрын
They really did drag Plagueis into this mess
@toddknaperek8225
@toddknaperek8225 Ай бұрын
Headland said in an interview last week that if she gets a second season she wants to focus on bringing him in.
@engineerforthefuture8593
@engineerforthefuture8593 Ай бұрын
@@toddknaperek8225 kill me now
@Peterski
@Peterski Ай бұрын
it almost felt like something added as an afterthought... they read all the comments about plagueis online and they thought "oh shit, let's add him for the fans"... kind of like that added scene in Rings of Power when they have Guyladriel mention her husband, because the fans were giving out about him...
@quix99
@quix99 Ай бұрын
@@toddknaperek8225great. A transgender blue haired sith lord
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend Ай бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage 🤣🤣🤣
@slyc5920
@slyc5920 Ай бұрын
You know, Disney just made this worse for female directors and female leads for now on because if you think about this that green alien lady. She is the reason for the downfall of the Jedi. Because of her, the Jedi are led to ruin because SHE wants to keep up appearances. That makes it worse in so many different ways and I don't even think they realize it.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
Are you Chato now where women should be barred from being in Star Wars?
@slyc5920
@slyc5920 Ай бұрын
@@achaudhari101 Nope, but it is going to be hard for any woman to make this right. This show could have done that. It could have said, "HEY, this has a female showrunner and director and it was great with the Original concept" and Headland dropped the ball. Now people when they say, "UGh a female lead" They have a point. They have gone 1 of 3? Rogue One Jyn Erso has so far been the likable female lead in Star Wars Live Action Disney properties. This has just been a travesty and I am so sad because this just hurts the chances of diversity and will just further disband the fanbase.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
I doubt it. Leslie Headland is not the filmmakers version of Elizabeth Holmes.
@rl-cx6kf
@rl-cx6kf Ай бұрын
The Fandom Menace and the rage bait grifters have done a far better job of making it harder on everyone who isn't a straight white male Republican voter.
@slyc5920
@slyc5920 Ай бұрын
@@achaudhari101 She's worse, she got a job with merits that are questionable and even I questioned it after watching Russian Dolls. This was just her fanfic coming to life and her trauma dumping on the audience.
@TheStark83
@TheStark83 Ай бұрын
Hey Thor, sorry this is a bit long. I hope this all makes some sort of sense. This episode may be my least favorite Star Wars thing since The Last Jedi. I want to say that there were at least some interesting parts in there that got my mind churning. But everything, from the Plagueis? and Yoda cameos to the bleeding of the crystal, just felt hollow. I don't care about, or really understand, any of these characters or their motivations. But let's forget about the nonexistent plot, or the weird dialogue, or the compulsive behavior of nearly every character. Those are bad, but not the worst thing this show did. I ended this episode with this pit in my stomach, and I wasn't quite sure what was different this about episode than the others until my brother said something while we were talking about it. He said something like, "Turning to the dark side should always be a tragedy, and this show seemed to try to make it feel heroic." That was exactly it. Thor, you have touched on this sentiment many times in recent weeks. The clarity of selfless vs. selfish, light vs. dark in Star Wars can't be blurred. That is the failure of this show. It takes one of, if not the most important themes of Star Wars and tosses it aside.
@BrianArnold-kt3lc
@BrianArnold-kt3lc Ай бұрын
Whats next Qimir and Osha have a baby and name him Palpatine? Like this feels like a rewrite to Sidious origins and makes it like Plaguiese is the architect behind the scenes trying to find a true apprentice.
@BrianArnold-kt3lc
@BrianArnold-kt3lc Ай бұрын
I know it may seem far fetched but this actually makes the entire movie arc make sense. Plagueis fiddled with the force created a dyad, instead of attempting to fiddle with the force again he utilizes Qimir knowing he will seek an apprentice of his own. He orchestrated the path of Qimir and Osha who fall in love leading to 2 force sensitive darksiders creating a child (Palpatine) who he will eventually use as his strong powerful apprentice. Plagueis teaches Palpatine everything he knows it explains how Palpatine knows about dyads. It explains his obsession with trying to create a strong powerful apprentice. It explains why Plagueis is afraid of Palpatine creating Anakin given what happen when he created Osha. Like I get this isn't gonna be a popular opinion but when you think about it this does make a lot of sense to some story arcs. It also explains Dizzzneys focus on Palpatine and turning the Skywalker saga into the Palpatine saga.
@Supherodude
@Supherodude Ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure a black and Asian couple couldn’t be Palpatine’s parents
@BrianArnold-kt3lc
@BrianArnold-kt3lc 28 күн бұрын
@Supherodude yea if u took living on earth as ur logic. We're literally talking about dizzzney and a fantasy world with all types of aliens so whose to say wat comes out looking like anything.
@SimplyJohn155
@SimplyJohn155 Ай бұрын
My jaw hung open in disbelief the entire time. Can’t believe what I saw.
@darthplagueis-z6y
@darthplagueis-z6y Ай бұрын
It's a dream Nightmares 😱 of Obi-Wan tripping balls in Tatooine 😴😵‍💫😴😵‍💫😴 that's why Disney Star Wars feels so discombobulated ☀️🥵☀️
@BruceWayne-ue5dj
@BruceWayne-ue5dj Ай бұрын
Me too bro , me too.. I couldn’t believe how sol died just like that and by OSHA of all people. Mae turning to the light, plageus cameo, useless cut scenes to the bald green Jedi ETC ETC.. stressing me out with a bunch of dumb shit. I only appreciate the fact that I get to see some live action save fights
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend Ай бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage 🤣🤣🤣
@mrcat3493
@mrcat3493 Ай бұрын
They wasted Plagueis and Yoda on this trash. Unreal.
@MultiOzzyProductions
@MultiOzzyProductions Ай бұрын
When bazil sabotaged the ship for no reason the episode lost my attention
@SengCenter
@SengCenter Ай бұрын
That was fast! Which must mean, you really couldn't stand it. I'm with you, Thor.
@Deuteromis
@Deuteromis Ай бұрын
I was confused to the point of insulted.
@SengCenter
@SengCenter Ай бұрын
​@@Deuteromis 💯 It was utterly and genuinely nonsensical.
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 Ай бұрын
So fast that the audience didn't even have time to fake it...
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend Ай бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage 🤣🤣🤣
@TeensierPython
@TeensierPython Ай бұрын
Man. Harvey Weinstein did a number on Leslie headland. This story is messed up.
@bjrnhalfhand2258
@bjrnhalfhand2258 Ай бұрын
His accomplice
@Sorain1
@Sorain1 Ай бұрын
When you participate in evil, it harms you.
@TeensierPython
@TeensierPython Ай бұрын
@@Sorain1 and ruins everything you touch
@JamesBeard360
@JamesBeard360 Ай бұрын
This is really the first time that I have heard Thor sincerely let down. You can genuinely hear his pain :(
@user-pz7ob8yt4u
@user-pz7ob8yt4u Ай бұрын
“What did I just watch?” Was exactly what I thought after finishing the episode. I swear like the last 10 to 15 minutes was so rushed I did not know what was going on.
@jacobcabral99
@jacobcabral99 Ай бұрын
They turned a Sith Legend into smeagol … really great intro
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
He’s supposed to hide in the shadows. What kind of argument are you pulling out?
@jacobcabral99
@jacobcabral99 Ай бұрын
@@achaudhari101we both know that was a weak intro
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
Not at all.
@ilikepokemans54
@ilikepokemans54 Ай бұрын
@@jacobcabral99 This guy is always on here trolling, I thought your joke was funny
@Blisterdude123
@Blisterdude123 Ай бұрын
@@achaudhari101 It was lame, because now I'm imagining this little goblin hiding in the corners of the SAME TINY CAVE Osha and Qimir were in, like a giggling gremlin.
@bluemassgamer17
@bluemassgamer17 Ай бұрын
If they need proof, Then Why NOT SEND THEM THE BLOOD TEST RESULTS to the council? Didn't they say earlier that the results are literally identical. Something only a vergence in the force can produce.
@Peterski
@Peterski Ай бұрын
Shhh, stop making sense.
@onliwankannoli
@onliwankannoli Ай бұрын
“You can’t say it will be bad before they even release it,” they said. I don’t need to step in 💩 to know it’s crap.
@Janx14
@Janx14 Ай бұрын
"You can't say its back till they release it" "You can' say its bad till you watch it" "Just give it a few episodes to build its story, you're judging too soon." "oh the series is over? You shouldn't have watch it in the first place if you didn't like it".
@onliwankannoli
@onliwankannoli Ай бұрын
@@Janx14 😂
@charger9105
@charger9105 Ай бұрын
The legacy of this show, as far as I'm concerned, is that it doesn't exist. I won't return to it, won't watch another second of it, and it has no place within the saga. It's a non-thing.
@KMort
@KMort Ай бұрын
My condolences Thor, you have suffered.
@venaseph6314
@venaseph6314 Ай бұрын
Takes a full council to wipe REVANS mind, but one sith can wipe may in a blink...not only did she manage to fuck up continuity w the movies, but the best story outside of them too
@wadewilson8011
@wadewilson8011 Ай бұрын
That's a terrible comparison. You're comparing Darth REVAN's mind (a master so strong in the force that he treads both light and dark side) to the weak mind of a FAILED "Acolyte"?? Dude, of all the crap wrong with this show, THAT'S what you find mind boggling!🙄🤦🏾‍♂️
@romelmunoz7957
@romelmunoz7957 Ай бұрын
​@@wadewilson8011he mentioned only that because it'll take him an hour to write the other crap 😅
@rclaws3230
@rclaws3230 Ай бұрын
@@wadewilson8011 LOL. Are you just flat-out ignoring that Mae- a force-born entity -is about as powerful, if not more powerful than, Anakin Skywalker? The Chosen One? You somehow find the comparison unreasonable. This is a legitimate comparison. The essence of the complaint is that the power scaling in Dinney Tard Wars is entirely broken. Characters have unearned skills that emerge from nowhere, training is unecessary, discipline an afterthought, displays of mental strength and fortitude aren't even worth mentioning. Inexplicable force affects abound. The suspension of disbelief is murdered and its death knell resounds throughout all of fiction.
@takuid
@takuid Ай бұрын
​@@rclaws3230 a most apt summary of power dynamics in Disney Star Wars.
@neutronstarpilot4393
@neutronstarpilot4393 Ай бұрын
​@@rclaws3230I don't think Mae and Osha are as powerful as Anakin, Like they said the Medichlorian count was high, But nobody was like it's off the charts! And Luke is rediculosly OP in some of the Novels, So if fans want stuff like that brought in to Star Wars, This was not extended universe OP And if you're a willing participant in having your memory tampered with, I can imagine it's less of a struggle.
@LumVaughan
@LumVaughan Ай бұрын
Wow, it’s finally over. Thank God. I wondered if maybe the end episode would tidy everything up into a nice logical package. Boy was I wrong! There is so much to dislike - or hate-about this episode, my mind is almost numb where to begin. I think the big thing to me is how poorly written this episode was and how it all felt like something some rank amateur writer or high school kid would come up with and think it was clever and brilliant. You can see that they used a lot of the budget to make this episode flashy, but the terrible, illogical plot, poor acting and absolutely maddening outcome made it all worthless. All series long they have flirted with making the Jedi look bad and the Sith (or whatever) look good, but have usually backed away just enough to keep the debate good over whether they would or not. Tonight they crossed the line and made the Jedi - especially Master Sol and Vernestra-look stupid and (in Vernestra’s case) evil. There was no deep character development, no real reasoning or anything, the plot just jerked along. Mae is back to her old self and of course Sol had to take them to where it all began 16 years ago because…of reasons. I’m not clear exactly why, something about the Vergence and being able to prove it now. Mae, using the odd little droid, escapes, and for ….reasons…the obnoxious little tracker, Basil, helps her by sabotaging the ship. They have a silly trip through asteroids though they could have gone around it for…reasons. Sol’ s ship tailgates Mae’s for…reasons. Mae’s ship crashes, but doesn’t explode, and though Sol’s was out of control to some degree, a few scenes later he is shown landed. He runs around the ruins of the witch’s coven shouting “MAE!” far too long. Then we have Osha in Qimir’s Sith helm, she gets a Force vision of the future (which I don’t think actually ever occurred) and Qimir has a tough time getting the helm off her head. His eyes turn solid black as he tries for…reasons. They decide to go to confront Mae and Sol as Osha now knows where they are. Suddenly Osha seems to be the master and pretty much dominates Qimir, who lets her do it. Before they leave, we see a shadowy figure in a cave nearby, who is likely Darth Plaguis (sure, why not!) They head out to Brendok and then we see Vernestra meeting with a stupid senator who of course hates all things Jedi with no real reason given, just for…reasons. After the meeting she is informed that Sol has turned his transponder back on, so Vernestra (who we later learn is a member of the Jedi council) gathers up 15 Jedi (all likely as inept as those that went with Sol the last time) and off they head to Brendok as well! Of course by now they’re sure Sol is a mass murderer and even Qimir when he is later fighting Sol tells him that the Jedi are not heading there to get him (Qimir) but Sol. Anyway, back to Brendok, and soon Mae and Osha encounter each other and about the same time Qimir puts on his Darth Smiley outfit and confronts Sol and yet another lightsaber battle ensures. A few cool matrix like ‘bullet-time’ scenes and meanwhile, Osha confesses to Mae that she couldn’t get past her anger and that is why she was never successful as a Jedi. Mae is now going full force with the ‘Sol killed our mother’ tale, never mentioning how she turned into a black mist and seemed to be turning Mae into it too before Sol attacked. Not important! Jedi are bad! Osha doesn’t quite believe it yet, but clearly she is heading that route quickly and the two separate for what will now be the GRAND FINALE! Sol manages to defeat Qimir but just before he is about to finish him, here comes Mae and Sol of course has to explain to her that she and Osha are one being made by magic! All the while Qimir just stand there. Osha arrives at the dramatic moment, Sol confesses that he killed her mother saying it was the right thing to do and some stupid stuff about giving her the life she wanted. Of course Osha goes darkside over it and then successfully kills a Jedi without a weapon by Force-choking Sol to death while saying ‘stop talking’. He, a Jedi Master, can’t stop her either. The typical emotional release scenes occur as Sol’s lifeless body lies on the ground, after all he MURDERED their mother! He had no reason to do so! Osha grabs Sol’s lightsaber and immediately bleeds the Kyber crystal, the blade turning red to show Osha has gone all Sithy! Mae and Osha huggy-kissy make up (which was poorly done as same actress plays both girls). After Force-choking her former master, now we’re supposed to feel all warm and fuzzy over Osha and Mae. The Jedi with Vernestra have landed, and somehow they get Basil to lead them to the site of the battle as fast as his tiny legs could carry him. Vernestra senses Qimir, and obviously he was her padawan, BIG SURPRISE!!! Osha and Mae now turn to gentle master Qimir for help and he tells them that he will use his Sithy powers to erase Mae’s memory of her sister for…reasons. They agree and Mae waits for the Jedi while Osha and Qimir escape the 15 Jedi, Vernestra and Basil looking for them. Gee, no one thought to find Qimir’s ship and intercept them and of course no Jedi stayed on their ship to monitor anything. No, in true Keystone Cops fashion, the fifteen Jedi jog behind little annoying Basil as he leads them to where Mae is, which is beside the yellow tree. But before this, they come across the scene, find Sol dead, Venestra sends them all off and she takes Sol’s body, gives him a Viking funeral and begins formulating her plan to explain everything and piss off all loyal Star Wars fans in the process! I can see why she did it though, it would be hard to keep his body around and tell the Jedi he killed himself by Force choking himself to death! The Jedi find Mae, she passively awaits them looking like she was stoned and the next scene is Coruscant where Vernestra makes up a terrible story to cover everything up to the senate. Sol MURDERED the witches and with the other three Jedi, covered everything up to protect Osha, then, when Mae reappeared, he apparently lost his mind, killed more Jedi for…reasons… and then committed suicide on Brendok due to guilt. Sure, that explains everything! We see Mae brought to see Vernestra, who repeats the lie about Sol to her. She needs her help to find her master and she doesn’t even remember her sister. Nevermind that Mae killed Indara and convinced Torbin to commit suicide, that was all forgotten! Vernestra doesn’t worry about any of that, she has to keep her cover-up alive and well for a season 2 of this series!
@LumVaughan
@LumVaughan Ай бұрын
A cut to Osha and Qimir striking a dramatic pose for no apparent reason and then, at the very end, the ultimate misdeed - Vernestra going to see Master Yoda! “We need to talk!” She tells the back of his head. The end! No Sith, Mae has her memories erased, no canon problems thanks to everyone being dead, the Jedi have been humiliated (or at least some of them have), Sol is a scapegoat, and best of all…Qimir and now Osha, both darksiders, are shown to be sensitive wonderful people that just brutally kill those mean old evil Jedi for…reasons. Oh sure, Qimir was apparently light-whipped by his former master Vernestra and Osha was simply getting revenge on the evil old Jedi who killed her mother, so these are great reasons! Forget how fond she was of him for years, how he saved her from falling to death in a cave, how he kept her from being killed by Qimir and so on. Does she ask him to explain what happened? Does she struggle with it? Nope, she simply and slowly Force chokes him and he just lets her like he has no way to stop her. And we’re supposed to somehow be sympathetic to her? Mae just watches her and lets her do it and then they have a tender scene together and chat with good ol’ gentle Qimir. Forget that he tried earlier to kill both girls, that’s all in the past now! I can’t believe how lame and just plain pointless and stupid this whole thing was. This episode, by far was the worst. Jedi were shown weak, stupid or secretly evil here and the semi-Sith (or whatever the hell Qimir is supposed to be) is the sympathetic character because…why? This episode he doesn’t try to kill the girls, so that makes him sympathetic? Even though he had in earlier episodes? And as frustrating as this episode and this whole series is, I can honestly say that NONE of the characters that made it out alive of this series would I care to ever see in any format in any series ever again. I couldn’t care less what happens to Osha and Mae, or Qimir or Vernestra. None of them were compelling or sympathetic. This whole pointless series was just a stupid waste of money and airtime so some idiot (Headland) could try her hand at flipping around good and evil. Sadly, many SW channels on KZfaq will wax poetic in their love of this ending and herald it as a triumph of brilliant twists of plot and showing the gritty truth of the Jedi order and how darksiders can be likeable, even friendly chaps! I can’t express how disgusting this whole thing is; it spits in the face of the themes of the original SW, just to be different and controversial. There was no real reason for this, it served no purpose, wasn’t well written, was poorly acted, the plot bounced all over the place, the characters flip-flopped, the action was pretty good, but often just was thrown in to try to give some redeeming quality to an otherwise crappy series. The aliens looked for the most part good, but the special effects just felt thrown in for the sake of having something there. This was no crime drama, there was no shocking crime that justified all the terrible things that happened here and the main characters - Osha and Mae were so flat and unbelievable that you find yourself hoping that they both get killed before the season ends. Only Master Sol’s portrayal in most of the series is worthy of interest, and by the last two episodes, even he was beginning to look rather pointless. This was a series that none of the fans ever asked or dreamt of, and it serves no real purpose in the history or canon of the SW universe other than to make Kennedy and Headland happy. Few serious SW fans like it, and I hope and pray that it will never see a second season. Season 2 of Ahsoka, another season of Mando, Boba Fett or a follow-up to The Bad Batch would be far better use of resources than to produce pointless garbage like this. Kenobi irritated me and after it was over I was mildly disgusted with the whole thing, The Acolyte, after this episode, actually angered me for how they mistreated the Jedi, and made them all look so ridiculously stupid and inept. Wow this was bad. I’d rate the series a solid ‘F’.
@AllanRamires1988
@AllanRamires1988 Ай бұрын
@@LumVaughanI actually read all your rant and I agree with pretty much everything. I never felt so disgusted after watching something.
@LumVaughan
@LumVaughan Ай бұрын
@@AllanRamires1988 It's almost as if Headland had a bet with someone on how she could piss off the whole fanbase. Even Kenobi didn't make me so upset and I'm 100% sure we're not the only ones mortified at this complete trash.
@TJ_ax
@TJ_ax Ай бұрын
So they not only disenchanted the whole Anakin chosen one thing but also completely took away the mystique of Darth Plagueis - all while effectively making the Jedi corrupt cops. What the fuck man
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 Ай бұрын
Anakin was the darkside, Bro. Why are you pigheaded? Can't cry and complain about this show making Dark side look good and then whine about your precious Anakin not being special anymore. Anakin was WAY more annoying in the prequels than any character I have ever seen. You all mocked him for years
@jamesc8968
@jamesc8968 Ай бұрын
And they didn't even really do anything that bad but the show makes out like they were fucking arseholes even though we saw the position they were put in during the flashback
@Bcorcoran100
@Bcorcoran100 Ай бұрын
Obviously the Whites are Jedi and Black people are supposed to be the Sith. Great job Disney
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 Ай бұрын
@@Bcorcoran100 What are you along about? What white people? All I saw was Yord and the Wolverine actress is playing an alien. So jedi are still mostly people of color
@neutronstarpilot4393
@neutronstarpilot4393 Ай бұрын
The Jedi order is in it's final days, it wasn't peachy in the prequels. I would say it's fine to say individual Jedi are true to the path but influences in the institution are responsible for the Downfall And it's evident the Sith are 100 percent meddling in this Downfall.
@dangerdwarf7887
@dangerdwarf7887 Ай бұрын
It also makes absolutely zero sense that a Jedi would cover up something as big as the Sith returning
@YegRon
@YegRon Ай бұрын
Where are all the trolls who were so vocally attacking anyone who dared criticize this show not more than just a few weeks ago?
@eddavis389
@eddavis389 Ай бұрын
The best thing about the series, ‘The Acolyte’? It makes The Book of Boba Fett, season 3 of Mando and Ahsoka all seem much, much better. The polar opposite of ‘Andor’ in all ways. Andor had no Jedi, no lightsabers, no mention of the Force or even darksiders, few people watched it when it first came on and later on most fans realized it was the best Star Wars ever. The Acolyte has lots of Jedi, many lightsabers and battles with them, frequent mention of the Force and darksiders, few people watched it when it first came on and most fans realized it was the worst Star Wars ever.
@irena4545
@irena4545 Ай бұрын
Lol, I was just thinking that for all their flaws, Kenobi or Boba Fett weren't so bad after all... in the same way as a multiple fracture isn't as bad as terminal cancer, I guess.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
One was overhated and clearly was condemned by grifters online.
@mortemtyrannus8813
@mortemtyrannus8813 Ай бұрын
I thought the best thing about the Acolyte was the credits?
@GeordieSwordsman
@GeordieSwordsman Ай бұрын
@@mortemtyrannus8813 They managed to ruin even that with the godawful song that played at the end of episode six (I've genuinely already forgotten which one it was).
@eddavis389
@eddavis389 Ай бұрын
@@irena4545 Boba Fett wasn't too bad except for the Power Ranger biker kids part. Kenobi was another train wreck for some of the same reasons as Acolyte: Poor writing, messing with continuity and it was needlessly made to begin with. But see, if we gripe about Kenobi or The Acolyte we're WOMEN HATERS that just hate both series because women produced it!
@Ludd94
@Ludd94 Ай бұрын
It’s finally over! 🙏
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
Don’t worry, Season 2 will happen.
@kevinluu7024
@kevinluu7024 Ай бұрын
Till the rey movie
@GreaseBIizzard
@GreaseBIizzard Ай бұрын
​@@achaudhari101 Shill, shill, go away. Earn your pay some other way.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
@GreaseBlizzard Can you tone down the attitude, snowflake? Adults are talking.
@svensmith1991
@svensmith1991 Ай бұрын
​@achaudhari101 man how are you still defending this garbage even the msm shills are finding it hard to defend because of how crap it is but you just straight up keep going I am calling it now are you bob iger 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@TheGarywolfbarron8
@TheGarywolfbarron8 Ай бұрын
Thor starts his review... AW FUCK THIS SHOW!... ends review
@dalej3981
@dalej3981 Ай бұрын
Learned light sabers are secretly mood rings lol.
@babarshah4284
@babarshah4284 Ай бұрын
According to Disney the title of "Return of the Jedi" should actually be "Return of the flawed Jedi".
@1701EarlGrey
@1701EarlGrey Ай бұрын
Wait, you want to tell Green Lady who is played by wife of producer of this show, is the most important person in the Galaxy?😄 I've see that nepotism is forever alive in Hollywood - no matter which political side is in charge...
@martinleonard3265
@martinleonard3265 Ай бұрын
leslye did work with harvey...
@mkhud50n
@mkhud50n Ай бұрын
No she isn’t, Thor is just reading it wrong. She is on a lower council while Yoda is on the high council.
@Ryan-jl7jz
@Ryan-jl7jz Ай бұрын
@@mkhud50n thor is simply reading what the show is providing him, and the show makes her seem extremely important
@mkhud50n
@mkhud50n Ай бұрын
@@Ryan-jl7jz the show literally said she was on a lower council.
@captainmanic
@captainmanic Ай бұрын
Darth Leslye Headland strikes back and puts the force to sleep
@jpteknoman
@jpteknoman Ай бұрын
This whole thing is like the guy who is cutting a tree branch while sitting on it.
@peterc3426
@peterc3426 Ай бұрын
Imagine in TPM when Obi Wan comes back and the jedi would be like "ah yes, Obi Wan clearly killed Qui Gon"
@adib396
@adib396 Ай бұрын
Yoda "Bullshit, I sense"
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Ай бұрын
Force tosses The Green skinned clown out the window
@scottyhehehe5367
@scottyhehehe5367 Ай бұрын
Remember, Dave Filoni approved this.
@danenorem5571
@danenorem5571 Ай бұрын
Or Pablo Hildago... depending on what interview Leslie was on 👎🏻
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend Ай бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage 🤣🤣🤣
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend Ай бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage 🤣🤣🤣
@MegaDarkness5000
@MegaDarkness5000 Ай бұрын
​@@danenorem5571It's both, they both are the problem
@jaworski105
@jaworski105 Ай бұрын
I’ve been saying it since the beginning of Mando season 3, Filoni is a hack.
@holysecret2
@holysecret2 Ай бұрын
This entire story is so nihilistic. There is no value in honesty, trust, humanity, compassion or redemption. People are entirely instinct-driven and unreliable, corrupt, out for themselves. Everything is superficial and there is no meaning to anything other than power seeking or preserving.
@Darkstar-se6wc
@Darkstar-se6wc Ай бұрын
IOW, it’s actually set in modern Hollywood. Write what you know, Leslye!
@Bcorcoran100
@Bcorcoran100 Ай бұрын
Jedi = Evil Trigger Happy Murderous Space Police Sith = Misunderstood Righteous Fighting Authority
@auraguard0212
@auraguard0212 Ай бұрын
I mean... SINCE there's no Season 2, we know the following: - Qimir dies to preserve the Rule of Two - Osha is murdered by Palpatine, the best character, so that he can be Plagueis's apprentice-- UNLESS OSHA IS THE ONE WHO MURDERED PLAGUEIS AND SIDIOUS WAS RECOUNTING SOMETHING HE HADN'T DONE, OH SHOOT - Yoda doesn't buy Vernestra's bullcrud, and either fires her or has her killed - Kiyati Mundi's mind is wiped or something - Mae... idk, something
@bigiladro
@bigiladro Ай бұрын
welcome to Star Woke, revenge of the schwa
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Ай бұрын
​@@bigiladrowoke? That implies an effort in writing
@EflowNivek
@EflowNivek Ай бұрын
No one on the council wants to investigate the vergence? this astronomically rare force event and they send what is basically their D-team.
@AllanRamires1988
@AllanRamires1988 Ай бұрын
Remember the Padawan was there for weeks before someone explained him what they were actually doing. Then he proceeded to disobey his masters and invade the witche’s base to kidnap two children because HE MISSED HOME.
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend
@UrMomWifeBoyfriend Ай бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage 🤣🤣🤣
@cacophonic7
@cacophonic7 Ай бұрын
I think the implication of Vernestra lying to the council when we know many other Jedi already know the truth was that ALL the Jedi are in on the lie and cover up. This is why Basil turned on Sol and sabotaged him when he was chasing Mae in the ship. The point they kept making is that the Jedi have actually the bad guys the whole time. That’s also why the show ends with the Sith looking hopefully out to the horizon, a Sith take on the ending scene of Empire Strikes Back.
@mrfloosak
@mrfloosak Ай бұрын
@@cacophonic7 I don’t know about all the Jedi but there could definitely be a faction of corrupt Jedi. And for the most part would be completely different Jedi then the ones seen in Phantom Menace. I think people forget that things change in a hundred years because they watched Phantom Menace last week. Nearly everything about a society can change in 100 years.
@butcherpete2286
@butcherpete2286 Ай бұрын
I wanna point out, since literally EVERYONE is pointing out that she absolutely cannot act for the life of her, that Headland literally wrote the role of the twins for Amendla Stenberg. She didnt audition for it. She didnt have to have an agent to get the role. She didnt have to come up through another show/movie to be recognized and pointed at for the role. The role was written specifically to cast Amendla Stenberg in this series as the main protagonist and antagonist. And she couldnt act her way off an improv stage while people boo her. And then she had the audacity to go make that stupid music video.
@caseyjp1
@caseyjp1 Ай бұрын
Well, we now have a taste of pure fanfic making it to the screen...for 180million dollars.
@Peterski
@Peterski Ай бұрын
I feel a fanfic would be better, at least it would respect the lore... Maybe.
@SakiBlablabla
@SakiBlablabla Ай бұрын
A bad fanfiction at that !
@Deuteromis
@Deuteromis Ай бұрын
16:45 It's ok Thor, we all.know you meant to say "f*cking" instead of "freaking".
@Laurentiu-du9kq
@Laurentiu-du9kq Ай бұрын
From Battlestar Galactica....
@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi
@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi Ай бұрын
Dont work folks, they showed 2 seconds of Darth Plagueis looking behind a rock and the back of Yoda's head..Arent you excited?! Lol Star Wars under Kathleeen is a joke
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
Your nitpicks are a joke.
@phillnyetheplaylistguy3759
@phillnyetheplaylistguy3759 Ай бұрын
Thats not how nitpicks work ​@@achaudhari101
@rclaws3230
@rclaws3230 Ай бұрын
@@achaudhari101 What's good about the show? Is it the diversity? The woman-y-ness-ness where women have all the agency and generative power and nobody who is not a woman is allowed agency or authority? Is that's what's good, because you and others like you have some misplaced sense of vengeance, and this gives you a cheap thrill of unearned superiority?
@caedus6525
@caedus6525 Ай бұрын
@@achaudhari101 campfires in space and flammable rocks arent nitpicks. Neither is Ki Adi Mundi being what, minus 40 years old? The list goes on and on ... but go ahead and consoom product, then clap like a seal for the next product.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 Ай бұрын
Crying over fire and crying over a character appearing despite “Sith” not being muttered towards him? Yeah you are nitpicking over stupid things especially with Plagueis being there all because he was hiding in the shadows. What do you not complain about?
@christopherhunt1957
@christopherhunt1957 Ай бұрын
There has been one consistent element in this show: characters have acted erratically, especially Mae and Osha. That the two of them are actually the same person, and that they have a light side / dark side oscillation between them, might explain their flip flopping behavior. Both have gone back and forth between selflessness and selfishness. But the show has given no firm clue to back that idea up. If it did, that could turn out to be pretty freakin' cool. But other characters, Sol for one, have acted inconsistently as well...diminishing any weight to a Mae/Osha force anomaly explaining their erratic choices. Vernestra seems to be a developed character in the High Republic lore, her wiki is a mile long. But the show seems to be setting her up as some kind of internal threat to the order. I finished the last episode asking the same question, "What did I just watch?" But I still want my questions answered. Alas, I doubt the answers, if there are any, will make any sense. Nothing has made sense so far.
@ezrapark9992
@ezrapark9992 Ай бұрын
I sort of liked the show. My idea is that Mae is really the light side half, and Osha is really the dark side half. Mae is light natured but raised in the dark, and Osha is dark natured but raised in the light. That’s why the show uses the Yin-Yang symbol as the witch symbol, light within dark and dark within light. That’s why they always run towards their natural tendency. Little Mae’s need to defend her witch family can be read as a light side tendency. Similarly little Osha’s quickness to be a Jedi because it’s “what she wants” can be read as a selfish dark tendency
@christopherhunt1957
@christopherhunt1957 Ай бұрын
@@ezrapark9992 I like that analysis. You might be onto something. I wonder if the writers are onto it. I have sort of liked the show too, but can't disagree with a lot of the criticism of story and structure.
@siridad
@siridad Ай бұрын
How, how did this get approved? It would have to go though so many people before it got approved! Many levels of people. I'm truly in shock.
@Bacontats
@Bacontats Ай бұрын
Better questions is “why are we shocked”? This whole show is just a nightmare. They break so much lore and make things “work” for the sake of working by ignoring everything else that’s been established. Plagieus gets inspired to create Anakin via stalking osha. Yoda can’t sense a grip of jedi just die. And he can’t sense Vernestra lying, or a growing dark side. No Jedi can sense that I guess. Osha can just kill a master Jedi? Cause she got angry? Wasn’t Mae angry this whole time and got actual training? Yet Osha can just bypass that and force choke a master and break his force shield despite not training, practicing, being cut off from the force? And she was so angry she “bled” a Crystal? But Anakin’s lightsaber never changed. Why is this show?
@romelmunoz7957
@romelmunoz7957 Ай бұрын
Get training is so raycist and misogynistic didn't you know 😅
@SixerMason
@SixerMason Ай бұрын
The whole thing is a mess written by a person with the mentality of a child. Oh, and the crystal bleeding thing is a Disney invention. It didn't happen in RotS because it didn't exist. Also, it's dumb. In the old EU, Sith either found a red crystal or created one artificially. Artificial red crystals were said to be more powerful, which is why Sith used them. Their saber was a tool, not a sacred bonded item.
@takuid
@takuid Ай бұрын
@@SixerMason crystal bleeding and lightsabers thickness changing based on light/dark side power in the galaxy are some of the dumbest inventions/retcons in Disney Star Wars. Crystals choosing Jedi like wands choosing wizards in Harry Potter (which is where they nicked it from) is a close third. Helicopter sabers invented by Filoni is however in a galaxy of its own, so I am not counting it. I think even Disney Star Wars thinks it is dumb af. Lightsabers were just technology and a symbol and not some magical beings. Good times.
@bobandahsoka
@bobandahsoka Ай бұрын
​@@SixerMasonI really preferred the synthetic crystal idea to that fact every sith has to be strong enough to kill a jedi before getting a lightsaber (unless the just pick off Padawans with a yt1300 with free candy painted on the side.)
@jynxxnerd
@jynxxnerd Ай бұрын
This doesnt deserve the scrutiny. Trying to validate any of it is an insult the original story.
@tunasandwich395
@tunasandwich395 Ай бұрын
Yeah I'll check out Andor S2 and then just be done with any new Star Wars
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 Ай бұрын
Lord. Disney is weeding you incels out on purpose. Think about it... Disney = kids. Incels = no kids
@LumVaughan
@LumVaughan Ай бұрын
All Star Wars fans dream of movies and series where the original themes and the adventurous, wondrous feeling of the Galaxy Far, Far Away is portrayed. So how did this series do in keeping this dream alive? To quote Darth Smiley in the first episode of ‘The Acolyte’, “The Acolyte kills the dream.”
@runlatz8493
@runlatz8493 Ай бұрын
Is it also a dream to have good story writing? Evidently so.
@Codysdab
@Codysdab Ай бұрын
Everyone had hoped the expanded universe would get the movie and tv treatment, but Disney knew "better".
@LumVaughan
@LumVaughan Ай бұрын
@@Codysdab Yeah, and now you're almost afraid to bring any of the expanded universe stuff into canon because of how they'll muck it up. It's absolutely the darkest time of the SW franchise. Horrible, absolutely horrible.
@Codysdab
@Codysdab Ай бұрын
@@LumVaughan I'm with you there. tbh the only way to save it as I see is another party buys it off of Disney and resets back to where it was after the 2nd trilogy and the EU pre-Disney. However, I feel the chances of that happening are pretty much zero.
@LumVaughan
@LumVaughan Ай бұрын
@@Codysdab Yep, I concur. They could use the World Between Worlds as a method to reset select things, but as you said, the chance of that is zero.
@ashortsstop
@ashortsstop Ай бұрын
Thank you Thor. Keep doing what you do.
@MrTrancelator
@MrTrancelator Ай бұрын
"If you don't want anything ruined..." M8, my day would be ruined if I watched that crap, so I'm just gonna enjoy your review without suffering through the episode itself.
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