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@@Jiiiiim ahah, you did.

How on earth did the Romans keep the water inside the arenas to make the pools?

@metatronyt - Okay, serious question, on a scale between eating a pineapple pizza and watching this film, what would you choose?

More like "slave is slave" TBH.

As far as I understand it, they didn't have racism but more...xenophobia. if you didn't speak Latin and weren't accustomed to their culture, you weren't Roman, and therefore, you were less-than. A barbarian. A wild, dirty freak.

I think I would be a good roman😅

But I bet they hated some more equally than others!

​@surgeonsergio6839 no, seriously. They really are viewed literally anyone outside Rome or not yet assimilate to Roman culture (except Greeks) as a barbarian savage. When romans mentioned "uncivilized barbarians", they merely mean "anyone that wasn't part of us".

No fucking chance.

I knew from the beginning I was waiting for the black character that overpowers the whites

The only words people know about Roman history is: "gladiator" , "Caesar" , "legion" , "slave" , "Goths"

@@RomanCigić Such a mess, people should really read more about it's history especially the fall of the republic and western empire.

christian non sense is still strong in this world, Nietzsche would call it "morality of the slaves".

More like the Batman logo

Aren't the Hell's Angels also on some kind of...security business? 😂😂

That or they hire the sort who think there were black viking warrior women.

@@lonelystrategos Hadn't thought of that possibility! 😂 Well said

Big movies (specially those from Hollywood) are generally made by privileged elitist people who don't know and don't give a sh*t about things like accuracy, truth, history of mankind or any other science.

i think Lindybeige had a bit about that. Yes, they seem to be only hired so their name can be put into the end credits and pointed at when someone criticizes the film. Other than that they're ignored. Found it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7B2ea-n3LSwnIE.html

@@richardaubrecht2822 Yep, like I said: drink coffee, eat candy-bars, and collect a paycheck!🤣 Thanks for the link!

That's right

Exactly :( I was astonished to see that no one talked about this. It's the most striking and ridiculous mistake. It's not only in this series. it's also in the Colosseum on the History Channel. Macrinus was also of berber origins and they chose a black actor for the part. I'm not even going to talk about Hannibal. ( Hannibal was also portrayed by a black actor in Barbarians Rising, a documentary aired by the History Channel.) This has been a pattern for a while now. Our heritage and our history are being stolen right before our eyes by people who do NOT represent us in any way. We're so different. It's like choosing the cast of Vikings to represent Numidians, same thing. Utter nonsense and very provocative. I urge Metatron to talk about this.

I mean they had to add black people somehow, btw it s not legal in hollywood yo make a movie and not include a minority (basically you can t have a movie with full white people, it s not legal)

No surprise

I mean, was the main character himself ethnically Amazigh? Bcoz then your criticism is 100% legit. Otherwise, Blacks did have some presence in these areas. And if you wanna talk about Berbers, Berbers of primarily Sub-Saharan African genetic origin are a thing as neighboring Black communities have had history with Berbers with certain tribes assimilating into Berbers. Take the Tuareg Berbers inhabiting Mali and Niger for example.

Hollywood is dying. Look at box numbers

I agree

Same

Why do you hope that?

@@Markunator if they crash hard due to keeping making awful movies, maybe they'll make good movies again

I did too

I wish it was!

maybe he has bills to pay lol

He’s probably most of the casting budget

THey really needed a big name.

Considering some stuff he's been in I wouldn't say that he cares that much what he appears in.

That's were all the budget went 😂

Tweeting took weeks back in those days.

Yeah its like a misconseption of what the ancient Rome looked like. They think it was all white marble.

@@kev3d They did have something like Twitter which was called Coo due to the sound a Pigeon makes. The Romans used Coo messengers to aid their military over 2000 years ago. They also created air mail delivery of food as they made a nice snack.

​@@kev3danalog tweets 😅

There are also things that are known in German, but not by English speaking historians.

Pffftt. Kelsey from 74Gear was saying something similar about hiring real pilots as consultants on aviation based scenes. In the end of the day, all that was left for him, was creating "Holywood vs reality" series.

I thought this was a movie made to entertain not necessarily raise the viewers historically accurate understanding of long gone times. And I think Metatron should get into the same frame of mind: movie (Metatron stay out of it) versus documentary (Metatron give it all you got to get it straight).

But they want to re-write history.

​@@cestmoi1262 The only thing to deter Metatron, and all other History lovers, is if you just use your damn mind and label your "Roman" movies as "inspired by real history".

As much as I agree with that sentiment, that most likely will not ever be happening. The people Who make these "series" care more about entertainment value & pandering for subscription sales than historical accuracy, That's why I don't think they would be scrambling to be hiring our dear metatron unfortunately.

I thought those were just called horse riders lol

@@PaulSmith-nb6md The Roman tax classes denoted what unit type someone could be if conscripted back when the Roman Republic still had a citizen army, because those that were drafted needed to buy their equipment themselves. Horses are expensive, so the "Equites" class was consisting of those rich enough to afford them and form a cavalry.

Good info, but I think he's just referring to the completely dyed clothing being anachronistic.

​@@PaulSmith-nb6md horse riding ain't a cheap thing, even nowadays. You can ride a horse, but its feeds, equipment, housing, then armor, etc.

400 times is insane to think about but then again, i see our world and it is not that much insane really.

Thanks!

​@metatronyt you'll be hitting 1 million fast! The amount of knowledge in this channel is crazy

Pulo and Vorenus both wore lorica hamata so they did a decent job of portraying armor.

Exactly this, they will nitpick every minor possibilities if it fits their agenda, I bet it doesn't add to the story at all like it never does.

I have suspicion Numidians are not black.

Oh this is one of those KZfaq channels

It was a good series except for the gay shit

@@sickosylum360 yes it was. It was fun to watch in spite of all the vvoke tropes

Vespasian, uh? Them "pecunia non olet" must have been the motto that pushed Hopkins to accept the part.

Is this found while watching the movie, or on any synopsis?

The problem with that is Vespasian died just before the Flavian Amphitheatre (Colosseum) was completed in 80 CE. The events in Gladiator took place around 100 years later.

then, very glad that no one told that story before, as they claim. As for Vespasian, Titus and co - stuff was boiling in the empire at that time. Why not make a movie about that, or even a series. There is plenty of historical material. But let's do gladiators, that always works right?

@@Gynra historical accuracy isn't important in most fictional works

We sa lu te you!

Stand up and be counted for what you are about to receive

😂😂😂 Thank you, I thought the same thing. How dare they rip off AC⚡️DC jk 😂😂😂😂😂

Same 🙋🏻‍♂️

Yeah, it would be good to refresh serie. Also @metatronyt - what You think about reaction about HBO Rome?

Rome got so many things right. It wasn't perfect, but it made a lot more sense than this shite.

Still one of the best historic shows

@@MastemaJackI’d call that show semi-historic but at least it was good lol

@@Flash244MCGaming way more historical than most

And don't forget Demetrius and the Gladiators (the sequel to The Robe) with Victor Mature, Barabas with Anthony Quinn, the Silent Movie version of Ben Hur before the remake with Charlton Heston.

Actually the series is less about gladiators and more about a crime lord helping Domitian to become emperor. The title is chosen badly. The races are more important than the gladiators, which are more of a warm up before the race.

@@oliverkersting2852 So, as fake as the salespitch.

''Never told before...'' I wonder who approved this claim within Peacock Originals and more so why?

because Hollywood hates roman history, but needs it for profit, then they do it to mock and misrepresent it, on purpose

It's not difficult. They don't care because 99% of the audience don't care.

it's called artistic direction. it's a choice for the screen colors. no need to be always accurate on everything. would looks dull.

​​@@Eri4JpHistory was more colourful. And a director chooses the approach to a scene. It's within their ability to shape things to work.

@@TechnoMinarchist it's a personal choice. gladiator is far from history accurate yet it's a great movie.

Second that.

Power Rangers

exactly the comment I was looking for

​@@wizardofahhhs759 GO GO ROMAN RANGERS!

I think it's white not yellow.

It doesn't matter, they need to make inclusivity checks, they don't care about accuracy. You will never see a historical accurate movie from Hollywood. Also they don't care about other minorities like asians, middle easterns, hispanic and so on which i don't get it. Like if you wanna temper to minorities do it with all of them.

That’s because this just want to throw a specific type of black person (sub Saharan because northerners are too arab looking) into any European setting for representation

Exactly. Hollywood is using negroes as a political weapon to discredit and destroy the imagery of Roman history whole at the same time enflaming the egos of the afrocentric community. Egypt already sued and won billions for misrepresentation of their history. I say Europe grows some balls and Italy and Greece start doing the same! Because no matter how much we try to justify it, it's just out of hand now.

Are you sure? You've never seen like a middle eastern phenotype?

@@karljonson3287 right on top of my head, no. I remember two in Troy Fall of a City, but that was greek, not roman. Maybe there were some in the egyptian part of the tv show rome, but that was it.

@@inotaishu1 I've 100% seen them in jesus/roman movies

So, I guess we shouldn't ask him to review the most recent spartacus series? 😅

Which one? ​@@deaderthendead041

Interesting profile image, did you design it yourself. A lot of colours.

Judging by the copious amounts of black leather, Hollywood sure is into hardcore BDSM.

Exactly

lol

Definitely, but they should also start using more southern european actors. Why is a northern european welshman (Hopkins) playing a roman? Id like to see more Italians, Greeks, Spanish, French, Romanians getting these roles

@kenopsia6748 I 100% agree with this too. BUT atleast he's White so it's more believable

Nice lol

Would’ve been given as a gift over some sort of conquest as a pet or something like that for sure. It was common to exchange exotic animals

There is more.Google "House of Ashur".

Well they cannot hear you.😂

@@jackwei22 Maybe they’re in the fields of Elysium with Maximus Decimus Meridius listening 😂

Thanks very kind of you

Thank you!

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Mannix chose the title of his work in the late '50s, which may offer some explanation. I've read it - a long time ago - and it's obviously not the work of a serious or even amateur historian.

Yeah a total joke .not sure about how he didnt notice this Bs unfortunately north africans arent vocal about this

Confusing Nubia with Numidia Unforgivable

You guys trying to pick out exact ethnicities for actors are really weird

​​@@nuudelz3711 it's not especially if you are from Africa Numidian and Nubian isn't even confusable they are worlds away from each other.

Presumably the fights would be done to like submission or just be outright staged.

Almost ready! It’s coming out this week

Some world argue we haven't seen much of the Roman era as it is, only fantasy loosely inspired by it (names and some clothing, mostly). But yeah, I get what you mean. I know one problem with some cultures is verbal history. I know that some cultures consider writing it down to be taboo, and others even mentioning it to outsiders is taboo, so we lose a lot of rich history just by lack of access. As for other cultures it could be lack of subject matter experts that are willing to work with Hollywood. (Or those experts in general. Ancient Rome in ancient Greece have a mystique that a lot of researchers seem to want to spend their time and focus on, Even if circumstances mean they have to work in other areas.) Either way it leads to circumstances like this where there are people that have a very shallow understanding of a given culture and miss key points. Such as with The Woman King, which, if I understand correctly, people from the area depicted remember the person as a tyrant that won influence in terrible ways.

They’re too afraid to try something new.

Totally agree with you. There's also few movies and shows about Ancient Greece as well, why always fucking Rome?

Eh I love roman culture (even if I'm not as anal as Metatron) so please keep going back to Rome! No other culture is even remotely as interesting, the only close culture is Greece.

That may be your opinion but ancient Rome is not only one of the greatest civilizations and the foundation of most modern cultures but it is also the most popular and legendary !

So chickens (genus Gallus) are named for the gauls?

@@lonelystrategos that’s a coincidence, though it is why the rooster has become a symbol of France.

Honestly, I think that a soap opera or period drama would be more fitting if it's about historical accuracy, by going to your point about gladiators, imagine 2 rich families bickering, going into a d measuring contest by sponsoring gladiators and then go bankrupt in the process while the gladiators do a wwe style show

Appreciate your knowledge and research!

He's actually presiding games at the circus maximus not the coliseum. As bad as this series is the chariot races are quite good even though they refer to some horses as "andalusians" 😅

Shhhh, don't speak truths. KZfaq gets all offended and may accuse you of "hate speech"

R1a and R1b have had an immense impact on the founding of cultures and faiths, from India and as far as the Americas; and all that lies in-between. The Vedics, Persians, Assyrian, Egyptian Dynasties (such as Tutankhamen), Scythians, Greeks, Romans, Celts, Germanics, Slavs, and even found with deep pockets in locations in West Africa around the Chadic Basin. R1a and R1b are (most obviously) brothers from the same forefather, yet, together have conquered, traveled, settled, and created vast cultural roots and entire religions in a great many regions. However, these dynasties and the genetic makeup of these regions would begin to change over time. Essentially, they started out from a common Indo-European or Proto-Indo-European root, then the genetic makeup would change through migrations, integrations of new territories or even, the “mixing of ancestries”. Eventually, doing such things or having a laissez-faire attitude about these processes, would create great change in the genetic makeup of these regions and the sense of ethics and morality of these various peoples. When Persia began its period of mixing, it was common for mixed ancestry leaders to claim inheritance from their “Indo-European/Proto-Indo-European” heritage. Although, they used a particular word that is heavily charged today. Over time, as these mixed groups became plenty within the society, this would actually lead to a mistreatment of their founding demographic element, or create less ideal conditions that lead to waves of flight… These days, they’d sooner tell you this is simply a “conspiracy theory”, or attempt to create some “sensible argument” that everyone in the past, looked exactly the same as those who inhabit a territory today. This argument is the equivalent to suggesting that the America of 1300 years ago, is the exact same as it is today. If there was anything that these Proto-Indo-Europeans were known for, it was elements of nomadic steppe herding, consumption of lactose and the genetic requirements for such, horseback cultures, warrior cultures, and their spiritual natures. Of these tribes, many would split off from each other over time; there could be many reasonings for this. For example, population growth and lack of abundant resources to sustain this population, banishment from the tribes, as if someone were to commit some unspeakable and unconscionable action and be banished from the tribe. There’s also the possibility that many men simply had a burning thirst for adventure and exploration; we can see the same thing in Europeans during the ‘Age of Exploration’. What is simply undeniable, is that most linguists are quite certain that there is a great connection between the languages of these various regions; today, referred to as ‘Indo-European Language Family’ or the “PIE-Language Family”. If this weren’t enough, there’s genetic data we can easily collect and research today that fills the gaps and actually explains quite a bit about our rewritten histories… There is clearly an effort to erase this past and cover it with mud. As they say, history doesn’t repeat, but it certainly rhymes. If the world were to accept these extraordinary findings, they might have to admit that our people have played an integral role in the founding, furthering, and strengthening of “their” cultures, histories, and faiths. Asking them to do such a thing is like asking them to banish their own pride, to see us as their own founders; “their” culture or peoples forefathers. They much prefer to act as if our peoples simply oppressed and colonized land to land… however, it was not a colonization or a settling, but a Reconquista. I myself am R1b-L2 or “RL2”, my more modern paternal family came from Iberia, seemingly through a mixture of Italics, Celt-Iberians and Gothic peoples. Spain to this day, just as Italy, still contains populations within them that are fair-haired or light-eyed; as did these regions in the past. However, during the later periods of the Roman Empire, the Islamic periods of Spain and so forth, these areas would change dramatically, they would begin to receive quite a bit of foreign genetic influence. This is actually proven, even in the case of the Roman Empire, where samples taken from the Republic period, Imperial period, and late Imperial period, would see a significant genetic change over time. History doesn’t repeat, but it does rhyme…

Proto-Indoeuropeans were not blond or blonde blue eyed. Some local european hunters and farmers had light hair and eyes.hAugustus was not blond since he had light brown hair like his statues.

Cope barbarian, none of them were blonde, but light brown and some of them had light coloured eyes, not necessarily blue.

Europeans are cromagnon. Ie the first hybrids of neanderthals pushed south by the ice age into lands occupied by homosapiens. That's where we got our light skin ginger/blonde hair from and blue eyes.

Absolutely true!!!!!!

I watched the show and he does die before the amphitheater is completed. he's watching the chariot races in a different arena. The amphitheater is completed in the last episode when Titus is emperor.

@@PrittyInPynk ah okay, at least that's correct.

@@battlepope669 yeah lol that's one thing they did get right. Even tho it's not historically accurate with some things, I did enjoy it. Definitely not Emmy worthy tho lol

It’s from the stands in the circus Maximus, few hundred meters from the colosseum. They show it completed near the end of the show and they made it out to be a hell of a lot smaller than it actually was even with cgi. Even the seat of the emperor was in the wrong spot, unless they were trying to go for the pre earthquake build

Ahah I appreciate

"That's not going to work for me, brother" ~Hulkius Hoganus

My apologies to all Italians, then. I always break my spaghetti before cooking it to fit it in the pot.

Nigerians aren’t homogeneous. Fulani Nigerians would not look like Igbo or Nupe Nigerian. The continent is extremely diverse even in modern nations.

Kushite too were diverse some looking Nilotic others looking more like Afroasiatic people of the horn and parts of southern Egypt.

@@admirekashiri9879but why don’t they show that diversity?

@@ariaxrose1 Because they believe stories from Africa won’t get views 🤷🏾‍♂️.

@@admirekashiri9879 that’s why they keep casting black people in European settings without actually showing diversity of culture?

Flax?

You’d be shocked at how many Americans visiting Rome go to the McDonald’s by trevi fountain 😂

I saw one black guy. Calm down dude

Even in North Africa the Sub Saharan Africans were rare. The Romans only knew the Nubians who were black. Most werer mercenaries, not slaves.

@@karljonson3287 they didn't look like that though

@@odlfmariner470 who didnt

It's a quite new phenomenon, with the Yasuke thing and this one. It seems that the woke producers were shocked that their films were criticized by the audience because the historical figures they have presented with black actors were clearly not black. So they look for opportunities were black people could have been there. Like this one. In reality, what may have been the percentage of black gladiators? 1-2%? Not much more thats for sure. However this is sufficient to tell that there have been black gladiators so they can rubberstamp is as historically based and not a perfect fiction.

And pigs have wings huh! 😂

@admirekashiri9879 Fifthly, we shall explore if the *ancient Cushitic settlers of the Pastoral Neolithic and the Christian-era Kulubnarti specimens from Nubia* carry these same ancestral components and at similar frequencies. *"The end result is displayed below. It again primarily shows the same assortment of West Eurasian (viz. ancient Egyptian, Steppe and Natufian components) and East Eurasian (East Asian component) ancestries, which occur at similar total frequencies as before (over 70%). The remaining minority of the Pastoral Neolithic individuals’ ancestral composition consists of Sub-Saharan African admixture (~25%) and North African Iberomaurusian admixture (under 5%), just like the modern Afro-Asiatic speakers from the Horn region."*

@@mikeyu5769They had Eurasian admixture indeed but, they were still black! Attested by art, human remains showing phenotypes as limb proportions common amongst tropical human beings. If they were white or Eurasian looking they’d be clear representations of them showing this! Yet Egyptian, Greek And Roman art show them as being black African type people. Yes not related to West African ethnic groups I know, I’m sure you know there are different black ethnic groups through out Africa.

@@admirekashiri9879 they were more than 70% non African. According to your logic, southern Indians are black because many are even darker than most East Africans.

@@mikeyu5769 What period and region are these samples showing 70% Eurasian DNA? If that’s the case then wow the one drop rule should be taken seriously alright! They looked darker than even me a man with 100% Sub Saharan ancestry! 😂