Thanks to Jordan Peterson i returned to the faith after more than a decade of atheism. Hope he helps more people go back to church.

Praying for Jordan Peterson! He has the potential to be the Augustine of our time, and Bishop Barron the Ambrose!!! So many prayers and already so much grace!

I asked so many times on twitter for this, thanks to Dr Peterson i returned to the faith. Thank you

So happy you had this conversation Bishop Barron! I converted to Catholicism this Easter, and a key part of my journey from rationalist atheism and into the Church was Jordan Peterson. I think the key one for me was when I learned a non-fundamentalist reading of the bible, and learning that the bible could be true, and not only that but perhaps the most eternal truths we have. This was pivotal moment in my conversion journey. And later when I did RCIA I found a lot of overlap between sort of JP's psychological analysis and the Catholic church, except of course that the . Catholic church uses less of the rationalist language, and of course also dwelves deeper into the transcendent/metaphysical realm. What I see here is the hope for a future reunification of rationality and Christianity, and that is I think exactly what is needed to bring young people into the church again. We need a more rational church to emerge. It doesn't have to be the whole church, perhaps it will grow straight out of the Word on fire ministry. Or perhaps it needs to come via the Dominicans, who I find has already done the work needed, the only thing needed is really a popularizer and a movement. Anyway, thank you very much again, and I really think there are few areas where you can save souls as effectively as in this part of the world. And I am personally a living testimony to that.

I am SO looking forward to watching this interview. God bless you, Bishop Barron! You and Dr. Peterson are inspiring and so needed in these troubled times.

How emotional Jordan becomes when he is asked about God, tells me he does and I believe the Holy Spirit is at work - 'God has got his man'. He is a good, good man and I believe God is working in him and through him.

Proud to have you Bishop Barron, a man of faith and reason, capable of discussing any issues with the best minds on earth. So proud of Word on fire ministry! God bless you All!

Peterson is right that “belief in God” is a crushing responsibility than no one can bear. Belief in God should strike us down crying out for mercy because of our failures, and there we find Christ has stepped out in history to be crushed in the crucifixion to be the savior of our ineptness and sins. We respond by tears and gratitude. We stand up and walk in meekness and humility.

Peterson seems to understand the gravity of Christian beliefs better than a lot of Christians I know... But since his ethos is adoption of responsibility, living up to such a belief is the ultimate responsibility.

It is a privilege to hear this message. So nice to see the participants treat each other with respect.

Vogt did a great job. He captured Peterson’s thoughts and gave The Bishop an opportunity to respond.

Wonderful! Looking forward to the entire conversation. :)

Thanks so much for this. Really connected at the 20th minute conversation. Need more of these discussions today

It broke my heart to see Jordan wrestling with his “yes” to God. It’s funny because it is Jordan who really helped me understand something of the narrow gate and sacrifice - that before freedom we must go through a constrictive or narrowing period. He used the example of a plumber who first has to go to school to learn the trade so when he comes out the other side he can work, provide for himself and his community. He articulated beautifully that we don’t get to choose whether we sacrifice or not, we only get to choose what that sacrifice is. Yes, it’s terrifying to say yes to God... to take on giving up sin and going to confession etc. But now, I look back and I’d never ever take back my yes. The freedom I have now in my soul is what nothing else I had searched for from the world could give to me. God bless, Jordan Peterson. May we pray he says yes and finds his way back home. He’s so catholic it hurts.... come home!

Jordan Peterson was one of the main reasons I'm a Catholic now after being an atheist for like 10 years. I really enjoyed this interview!

I saw Peterson’s Praeger U speech and came straight here. Really looking forward to hearing the full podcast.

"God's on a hero's journey to find us" Wow. That struck a nerve with me. Thanks Bishop. (approx 22min)

So excited to listen to the podcast ! Great interview thank you for this !

"Do you believe in God? " "Do I believe? I know. " -Carl Jung

We must evangelize! To use the logistical and truthful pathways of faith to save the world! Spread the truth! Spread the love! Liberation from suffering! I love you all! God Bless!

Looking forward to it!!

God bless you Bishop Barron. "Engaging people in the courtyard of the gentiles"

Wow!!! So exciting to see Dr. Peterson breaking out talking about God... Chills!!! Can't wait to see everything.

Brandon is always so good at asking the Q’s and following up.

"..the two arms of justice and mercy..." [18:50] This struck a chord when I heard it, and I was reminded of it when I encountered some JWs in Birmingham today; looking for the lion St John sees the lamb [Apocalypse5v5-6]. The symbolism echoes eastern martial arts where the Unstoppable fist is brought together with the Immovable open hand, prior to sparing.

my dreams have come true!

Thank you for these amazing thoughts and for the interview and all the work of Word on Fire! Keep up the good work, God bless you

¡Thank you so much!

Bishop Barron, Wow. Thank you for being open to such an engaging discussion. You "teach" all how to discuss difficult topics in a non-antagonistic manner. Dr. Peterson's description (reiterated in my words) of believing in God feeling constrictive....and Church or believing feels like suffocation and takes away oneself...puts one in a box...was do heartfelt. I felt sorry for him. I also think many in the world feel as he stated. I pray one day God's love can be felt by those.

This merits multiple listenings.

Thanks Brandon and Bishop Barron.

While I think social media is responsible for endless harm, how else could I see two of my favorite people talking. I have followed Dr. Peterson and Bishop Barron for a long time.

Thanks very much sirs.

Waaaawwwwww Bishop Barron got 200k subscribers already I remember that for 5 years I think it hasn't gone up for more than 30k subs. Spiritual rebirth in people is a thing now. Thank God.

Something needs to be said about the intro and outro music.You guys need to spice that music up with some type of classical music and not some ringtone from the 90's.

Love Dr. P and Bishop B! Great minds! Hope to see them discussing faith and God more in the future!

I genuinely love Jordan Peterson. His psychological look into responsibility as purpose is so good. The way he you can hear the tremble in his voice about the responsibility of following God shows you how deep he thinks about this subject.

que excelente entrevista!

BB & JBP is all I need to see.

Peterson opened the door. Bishop brought me across the threshold into this whole new understanding of the church.

Yes

Lord, help Jordan's unbelief that he may believe!

Brilliant

It struck me that Peterson's avoidance of declaring a belief in God because it comes with having to change one's life to reflect that reality, is much like a fear of commitment in terms of marriage. If you love someone and acknowledge it, it means that relationship comes first, it requires fidelity, sacrifice, dying to self. But what are the rewards? A deep and abiding love that gives meaning to your life! True love helps you mature and grow into a better human being! Joy and strength in times of hardship! I don't think Peterson is yet thinking of belief in God as what it truly is, falling in love! It is the ultimate covanental relationship.

Jesus lives in Jordan Peterson. There is this aching heart in him much like Jesus. It just shows on his face. In this era is there another secular Teacher of whom we may say 'there is no guile in him'?

I've been searching for days, trying to find a link to the actual interview! Can someone please paste the link as a reply? Thanks! Don Bersing

In regards to the second clip of comment with Dr. Peterson. I think he does a more relate-able job of using modern language to convey a vision of hope that their future has some real meaning. Pr 29:18

Seeing the thumbnail of the video. 2 points: The juxtaposition of images of Bishop Barron. Peterson's image is isolated as Bishop Barron's image 'looks away' from Peterson. Since there is so much harmony between the two great individuals, opportunity to highlight the same.

I thought of Catholicism when I first heard JBP for elusive- at -the- time reasons. And I also used the exact word “bridge” to describe him and in excitement for the future of the world. I’m so smart!😎

Palabra en fuego...

What I enjoy most about watching bishop Barron summarise his experience with Peterson is that he is observably humbled by the genuine approach that Peterson has towards belief. Modern society polarises itself into strong groups of a binary yes and no. And to have peterson as a sort of archetypal frog being, an in-between-being, is healthy even to the ones who hold convictions that are noble.

JBP sounds a bit like Martin Luther before his conversion. He seems to have a genuine sense of the weight of the Holiness of God.

One of my favourite parts of these podcasts is when the intro music is playing and they’re smiling awkwardly lol jk but I can’t wait to watch this episode and Dr Peterson’s episode!! I’ve been waiting for it :)

On my second run through this video, I notice Bishop Barron’s comment about “God’s passionate search for us.” It struck me etymologically and raised this question: “does God suffer?”

I feel like if Peterson got into Thomas Aquinas, there could be a revolution. Not a violent one, but a cultural revolution.

Might I share a quotation from the book "Orthodox Worship": "The word mercy in English is the translation of the Greek word eleos. This word has the same ultimate root as the old Greek word for oil, or more precisely, olive oil; a substance which was used extensively as a soothing agent for bruises and minor wounds. The oil was poured onto the wound and gently massaged in, thus soothing, comforting and making whole the injured part. The Hebrew word which is also translated as eleos and mercy is hesed, and means steadfast love. The Greek words for 'Lord, have mercy,' are 'Kyrie, eleison' that is to say, 'Lord, soothe me, comfort me, take away my pain, show me your steadfast love.' Thus mercy does not refer so much to justice or acquittal a very Western interpretation but to the infinite loving-kindness of God, and his compassion for his suffering children! It is in this sense that we pray 'Lord, have mercy,' with great frequency throughout the Divine Liturgy." This has helped me to see that the vision at the center of those two hands is love, as you say Bishop, but love in a particular mode....one that is tirelessly and unwaveringly focused on healing.

Bishop Barron, will you do an interview with E Michael Jones?

we need a reunion now

When is Peterson going to release the podcast?! It's been two months! I'm bursting with anticipation! I've purposely avoided watching this so I can hear the full discussion first.

me: constantly refreshing podcast app....

Both men and women need Jordan Peterson and you, Bishop Barron to speak the truth and to help men be men again. Men need men like you who are strong role models that practice what they preach. Thank God for both of you and I pray that you both will continue to speak up and help men and women re-find their identity in Christ. There’s no other way. The psychiatrists and psychologists, including every other individual nestled within the human sciences will claim that society can be re-engineered to help women and men live better lives but this is not true when it comes to living a moral life, and ultimately, a good life. I’m a woman who began listening to both these men about two years ago and my life has gone from chaos and misery, to order and joy. Thank God!

I love to listen to both of these men; it’s deep and not run-of-the-mill pseudo-intellectualism.

I would like to know did Bishop Barron saw his debate with Slavoj Zizek? His thoughts about Slavoj Zizek talking Dr. Peterson about G. K. Chesterton.

I think Peterson is a great example of someone who is coming from a completely logical and psychological standpoint. Trying their very best to understand religion and spirituality.

I'm still looking for the actual interview. Google turns up nothing. JBPs podcast and KZfaq channel is silent.

"God is actually on a hero's journey to US" What an absolutely profound thought! I just had my mind blown.

Insights - Do you believe? Belief requires appropriate action. Israel means those who wrestle with God. Grace means nobly contending with suffering and malevolence. (Nobly contending is what pragmatic Stoicism teaches.) Nobly contending is acting as if God exists (Peterson's viewpoint). Bishop Barron: yes, Dr. Peterson is correct in saying that judgement (responsibility) is neglected in the Christian message today.

When the Bishop said, "Live your life in a way that makes no sense unless there is a God," I thought also of Saint Damien of Molokai

Is the aforementioned podcast out already? Where can I find it, please?

JP’s argument that our cerebral capacity can’t explain why humanity would deviate from a zero sum game to be compassionate supports the argument for the Holy Spirit’s whispering that leads us away from the influence of the dark shadow. But, JP stops (just) short of committing to the existence of the HS, and this is where spiritual leaders like Bishop Barron can help the seekers take that next step. Personally, I’ve found A Course in Miracles helped to bridge the gap to commit entirely by putting the ego in its place and by accepting that JC and my HS are there to help navigate my way through this mess. External gratitude for the teachings of both JP and B Barron to help explain the unexplainable.

Where the hell is this interview? There are few things that I want more in this world than Jordan Peterson and Bishop Barron. But I can't find the damn interview! Where is it?? WHERE??!!

Bishop Barron, Thank you and Happy Feast of Divine Mercy. Can you comment on a French phrase that I see more in secular culture. French Phrase: Vuja De. Specifically where did this show itself in history. Any Catholic commentary?

I cannot find this initial interview

As a christian I always have an itch when I listen to Dr. Peterson, I have an itch to say something to him, to make him somehow realize what is he actually talking about. But as I think about it, in the greater scheme of things, for him to make the Biblical series while he is still unsettled with things is a greater benefit to everyone, christians and atheists (or whatever). As it provides another perspective of things. Even if you analyze the teaching of the Bible from this side of the Universe you can find out that it is indeed describes life, it understands the human being, the human consciousness, the human brain and the human condition better than any scientist today. And we have to put the question: Why? We of course know the answer for that, but it's indeed marvelous to see the power of Logos how it breeds life into plain text. You analyze the text psychologically, putting aside everything religious and you hit your head in mystery which leads you back to the Power of the Word and how it creates things and give them life. It's true how it is described in the Bible that even if everybody remains silent the rocks will speak about God, because indeed everything was created through the Word. As for Jordan Peterson, I don't know what journey God planned for him, he and his family went thru a lot of bullshit for sure. I hope God will find His way in his heart and in his mind. He has a good grasp on starting to understand the Word, the world, the struggle and reality, he yet needs to understand the grace of God and which is the easiest way to Win the fight. His biblical series remains a very good starting point to engage religion for the modern atheists and skeptics, because it's just hilariously sad that people today are so arrogantly claim and think that we believe in Santa Claus. I'm not really into Catholicism, but dear Bishop you earned my subscription today (after I watched several videos with you), you are certainly a treasure to Christianity. Good thinking, keep oiling your brains.

Strange that JBP hasn't uploaded the full interview...

Where is the full interview?

Belief is not based on your ability to hold it. It's based on the confidence you have in God to be true to His Word.

Yet, the words of our Lord comes to mind: “For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” Matthew 11:30 How? In so many ways, there is a joy beyond compare, and a promised “strength beyond ourselves” when you accept Jesus’ invitation to follow Him and assist the Church in the most important mission of all (CCC 1040-1055, Matthew 28: 19,20).

How excited I was to engage this material (Word of Fire Institute) and participate as possible. Then I realized that 'the Good stuff' is monetized! In gentle candor only: I wish that was not so. +

Jordan Peterson, though he is a psycologist, speaks like a classic transcendentalist. This type of speaker will go out of their way to phrase their opinions and theories like a bridge to agreement for his listener. Two critical elements of conversation with a transcendentalist-type speaker 1. How argumentation is introduced 2. Silence, or what is not said

Many people regard to Peterson as the new prophet of our times, and I agree. I agree because I truly believe that God has revealed Himself to Peterson to a degree that most of us people don't, even to priests, theologians, and even to ardent masters of philosophy like Bishop Barron. And I guess that revelation which Peterson saw was both beautiful and terrifying; beautiful because it prompted Peterson to engage in this "adventure" to know more about Christianity, terrified because he saw the majesty of God and saw his own terrible state of iniquity, so terrified that he is willing to stand on the periphery and not to be fully committed to Him. With that, I really considered Peterson a prophet and the weight that he is carrying is indeed heavy. I pray for Peterson. He is both fortunate and somehow "cursed" because of what is revealed to him.

I'm reminded of Rich Mullins, his work in charity and music, the way he chose to live really made the argument, living this way makes no sense unless God exists.

And by belief in God, it seems that we mean something far deeper than thought and assent intellectually. But to reference John Henry Newman....this is a kind of assent that changes the person because it is trust. Trust is really, afterall, the Greek and Hebrew meanings of the word belief "pistis" or "aman".

Peterson has made a comment or two that has lead me to believe that he is more predisposed to the Orthodox Church. If he ever makes a comment like that to you, please remember to mention that there are Byzantine Catholics.

Where can I find the interview?

Has it been made available yet? Because I can't seem to find it...

Anyone know where i can find the whole interview ? Anyone have a link ?

Where is the Barron and Peterson interview? I can't find ir...

Anyone got the link to the interview? Thanks

Jordan Peterson doesn't claim or proclaim his belief in God but his approach to life, which may be understood from his talks, is every bit Christian. His classroom attitude is what is dominant to his person to the effect of it perhaps coming on the way of him not recognising THE LORD who is befriending him just all the while. Having been an ideal and hugely successful Educationist his every discussion seems to be held with the attitude of a Teacher. So it is perhaps natural that Peterson has posed this question to Bishop Barron at the conclusion of the Podcast. What if Bishop Barron's answer is one most providential thing too. If Jordan Peterson thinks hard a bit as to why an accomplished brilliant mind like Bishop Barron would set a goal of 'leading people to FULNESS OF LIFE in CHRIST and the CHURCH' and work to bring more people to the Church, it could well be a turning point for Jordan Peterson.

Where can I find an interview I would appreciate if someone could tell me

When is the conversation going to be released?

13:45: "If you don't realize you're a sinner, this thing is going to get dysfunctional fast." Beautiful. Chris Hedges, Presbyterian Minister once said something to effect of "I'm not as worried about replacing the concept of God with something else as much as I'm worried about losing the concept of SIN."

Has Peterson held up the video? Hope to hear the conversation soon. Or at least an explanation from Peterson on why he hasn't released it. He seems as though he might be a prickly sort.

Peterson is indeed a door opener to the possibility of God. You might say the good bishop is the next door keeper for those whose interests are piqued by Peterson and find themselves in the vestibule, if you will. Related: Listening to Peterson talk about why he cannot make a full, clear proclamation about Christianity struck me as having a mild Augustinian flavor to it. Young Augustine, looking ahead at the seriousness of Christian comittment. Perhaps one day, Mr Peterson. We'd be pleased to welcome you aboard. And could his criticism of the churches' soft sell of the faith been any more spot on?? Sans the real gravity of the following of Christ and membership in His Church being conveyed, no wonder so many today are floating off and away. Many float to a guy like Peterson, who is offering more than milktoast. Maybe Bishop Barron can write a "10 Catholic Rules for Success" to get things going...?

I'm new to religion. JBP, Paul VanderKlay and Jonathan Pageau took me to this path in the last 2 years. Now I'm a Catholic. Apparently Bishop Barron is one of the most relevant voices representing Catholicism. I'm not familiar with his work yet. Could somebody explain to me why he is especially relevant?

"I don't need to believe it... I know" ~Carl Jung

Listening to these great minds appeared to me that the concept of believing in God becomes a difficult mental challenge. Why not simply believe God like a child trusting his/her parents, who knows everything what is best to the child inflicting even painful medical vaccine for protection of the child from any virus..

Where is the link to the original interview?

In simple words, there is a need for more saints...