ThreadExpress Exposed, Accuracy and Durability

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@zacharyv3407
@zacharyv3407 Ай бұрын
Hey Cliff, I wanted to check out other comments before I did. Again this is brilliant. I think that one thing people are overlooking is that this could free up time on other machines by threading better on a stand alone “threading machine”. Because this solves, imo, the biggest problem to come with threading…tool pressure! I think you should integrate a power supply with it…think big die grinder or even the way a rose machine has its. Now a shop would no longer need to tie up “machine time” on the threading portion of a part, prep it with them yes. Also almost anything I can think of that requires a follow rest…wouldn’t 😮. Also for what this is…an assortment of multi-cutter discs would be perfect, like for different gearing cutters. With these it seems like even acme threads would be a breeze. Sure I’m forgetting to tell you some things because each time I watch one of your videos I think of more uses. Well done. You’ve inspired me to proceed with a couple of my inventions
@zacharyv3407
@zacharyv3407 Ай бұрын
IMO people who are dismissing this are either set in their ways or haven’t done much threading lol. You definitely have something here. Unless I’m wrong these dated videos protect your intellectual property rights or you can also mail a dated set of plans to yourself. But please get a patent! And don’t give up
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
Good to hear you will spend time as the mad professor too! Yes, I agree tool pressure is the big problem with conventional threading. ThreadExpress 1.0 was a complete machine. But I could not find a market and so turned it into an attachment! Finding the market is the toughest part of inventing. Cheers, Cliff
@zacharyv3407
@zacharyv3407 Ай бұрын
@@ThreadexpressSorry I missed that video, I’ll go back and check it out. Trying to figure this out is driving me crazy. Being infinitely variable I keep getting drawn into like a variable pulley like some wood lathes…I’m on waiting for your next video lol
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir Ай бұрын
Very impressive and interesting. Nice work sir
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback! Cheers, Cliff
@RobertBrown-lf8yq
@RobertBrown-lf8yq Ай бұрын
Hi Cliff. Been following along since you started with the probes. You are a clever fellow mate 👍👍 My take on this machine, is that it’s real market would be developing countries ( say, India). I’ve seen some incredible work being done on KZfaq, in the most basic of workshops. These countries are highly unlikely to be getting widespread CNC into their ‘cottage’ industries… but a ‘production’ machine like yours would fit nicely into a basic manual machine shop. Maybe get in touch with organisations (or Governments?) that want to expand manufacturing in third-world countries. Just a suggestion. Regards Robert (Sydney)
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to give support and your thoughts, Cheers! Cliff
@makefitdepartment8621
@makefitdepartment8621 26 күн бұрын
This is an amazing invention, one I am not likely to be able to build or afford to purchase but I can certainly appreciate the genius it takes to invent this. How do you adjust the TPI, the pitch adjustment scale you showed seems to only adjust the cutting angle if I understand it correctly.
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for your feedback and kind words. The pitch is set via that one scale. Cheers, Cliff
@bertr5650
@bertr5650 26 күн бұрын
Hi Cliff, Very nice work and design. My thoughts lead me to compare with the size and cost of a auto tapping head which many serious manual machinist with multiple parts will fork out for. If your design could be smaller and easier to handle and setup on say smaller hobby machines with fixed heads and minimal table clearance, you may be on to something. Another thought is that of large earth moving machine repair in remote situations using a jig , like portable line boring and welding machines.
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for your feedback and thoughts..most appreciated. Cliff
@jasonhull5712
@jasonhull5712 Ай бұрын
Is selling the plans an option ? The more I see this device the more I want to build one. I’m anticipating the cost to purchase one will be outside my home shops budget. It’s a wonderful prospect, and I’m looking forward to seeing it pop up in more applications. I’ve watched a lot of your content and I have a great amount of respect for you and your machining capabilities in general, not just on this project. Eagerly awaiting the next tidbits ! 🍻
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback and kind words, Cheers Cliff
@toddk.5873
@toddk.5873 Ай бұрын
I had to cut a metric thread on an imperial lead screw once to make a custom puller for rotor on a antique Italian motorcycle once. I didn't have the proper conversion gears. I borrowed a trick from Ivan Law's book 'Gears & gear cutting'. He talked about using continuous fractions where you can calculate a not precise, but very close thread with the change gears at hand. It worked beautiful. The little inacuracy of 0.01mm every so often doesn't look like a big of a deal. I was wondering if that occasional 0.01mm blipp is linear & if so why? I wouldn't worry. Just a thought. Nice job.
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback. Interesting, I was considering that solution years ago! Cheers, Cliff
@danproctor15
@danproctor15 Ай бұрын
I think its a very impressive unit and would question the comment you quoted about it not having much of a market at 1K. Lots of amateur machinist are quite happy to spend large amounts on their hobby ( I know three with Deckel mills). And would have thought a well made hardened unit at @ 2-3K (AU) would have a healthy market. Why not determine a price that gives you a worthwhile profit and see how many people would be willing to place a deposit? Or perhaps selling the IP to someone like Vertex .
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback.. and your thoughts reinforce some good points I have been mulling over. I am hoping a Vertex type company will contact me - because with all the new company spam filters, reception filters and hierarchical filters, I cannot reach them! Thanks, Cliff
@stillhand
@stillhand Ай бұрын
Greetings from the garden city. I could certainly use one of these. I would also value it at more than NZ$ 1000 per unit. I wonder if the design might be optimized for economic production? I also wonder if it might be scaled up and/or down? How would it work at half or quarter of the size? It seems like you have come up with an excellent core design that would lend itself to various adaptations. Have you thought of recruiting collaborators while legally protecting your IP investment?
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
Good questions, ones I have been mulling over, thanks! Cliff
@rayp.454
@rayp.454 Ай бұрын
Overall, I am net crazy about trying to hang that rather heavy unit on the edge of my table, and then having to swing the ram to cut a thread. Maybe it's not feasible for you, but it would be nice to have a 1:1 right angle and just set it on the table, or even throw it in your vise. Also I see limitations with length of thread vs. diameter of thread. At some point you will need a center to hold the end, and you will probably end up in a lathe. Just my 2 cents. I applaud you for your unique design, Good luck Cliff.
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback and thoughts, they are noted, cheers, Cliff
@Gkuljian
@Gkuljian Ай бұрын
I think longevity is important. When someone buys a used one 20 years from now it should still function. I understand intellectual protection, as I am also an inventor of sorts. Still, I am anxious to see how this is implemented. It's hard to give critical assessments without that knowledge. I feel that's the part which could make or break this product.
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts! Cheers, Cliff
@ramviswanathan3301
@ramviswanathan3301 Ай бұрын
How heavy is it? How much would you roughly anticipate its cost? I would prefer a smaller unit (as a home shop machinist) and cost < 1000usd I also agree with your other commenters saying that you should keep the IP protected instead of open sourcing it right now. You deserve to make a profit out of this. Another comment I will make is that the more you use it, the more accurate it will get - in terms of periodic error. The nut and lead screw will lap each other until they get very smooth. Of course, the backlash will increase but accuracy of the mechanism itself will improve. This may not be the case with hardened materials as they won’t be easy to lap.
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
Hi - Until I have identified the best market for it, and then considered a refined design to suit, I cannot begin to answer your questions. Thanks also for your thoughts. Cheers, Cliff
@scorpioo7350
@scorpioo7350 Ай бұрын
You showed (6:20) the mechanism for setting the thread pitch according to scale, and during the show (10:00) you covered this mechanism, it seems to me that this scale has nothing to do with the actual thread pitch. To set the correct thread, it requires several attempts and corrections, which means it is problematic, perhaps apart from the locking mechanism on the scale behind using the counterscrew (6:20), it would be necessary to add a lead screw to the adjustment mechanism, which would enable precise setting.
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
No clever stuff at this end. I covered that area with paper to avoid a view from that angle. Cheers, Cliff
@TheNuubi
@TheNuubi Ай бұрын
I don´t see how it can make economic sense in our current production world (maybe some nieche prototyping situation). I also don´t see how the pitch generating mechanism is revolutionary (even if it was so simple to not add any cost at all, the rest of the mechanism is already expensive if you want it to be build to the same accuracy as a decent lathe), sorry. It is still a cool idea, and i know the feeling if you chase a new idea and come to clash with reality. People writing they are interested and paying multiple hundred dollars are two very different things. Cheers
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts, most appreciated. Cheers, Cliff
@bt1624
@bt1624 Ай бұрын
What are the thread measurements like with a thread micrometer..?
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
A thread micrometer is only helpful for measuring the thread pitch diameter, this is mostly affected by the cutter form and depth of cut, not the pitch generating mechanism. Cheers, Cliff
@bt1624
@bt1624 Ай бұрын
@@Threadexpress is the thread pitch diameter parallel along the length of the threads you are cutting..?
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
@@bt1624 I see why you asked about a thread mic measurement now. The pitch diameter parallelness is not formed by the pitch generating mechanism but by how parallel the units slideway is to its spindle/work centerline. Note as explained in the videos, ThreadExpress does not have an end support center and so is not suitable for cutting long threads. It is best suited to small/medium length and diameter work where set up and cutting time saving, or ease of cutting up to a shoulder is desired. Long threads where the threads parallelness becomes critical, is best done between centers on a lathe. Thanks for persisting! Cheers, Cliff
@L98fiero
@L98fiero Ай бұрын
It seems to me that this is too much of a niche device to get any economy of volume for pricing, anyone that would need one of these will already have a lathe that will do the threading. The extra quality produced wouldn't justify much cost for most.
@Threadexpress
@Threadexpress Ай бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts, appreciated! Cheers, Cliff
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