Threats to Roman Army Supply Lines and Logistics in Wartime

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In this video we will put the principles of Roman supply lines and logistics into context by discussing how they functioned in wartime!
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Literary Sources
"Logistics of the Roman Army at War" by Jonathan P. Roth
"In the Name of Rome" by Adrian Goldsworthy
"The Roman Army at War" by Adrian Goldsworthy
"Legions of Rome" by Stephen Dando-Collins

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@axelschultz9550
@axelschultz9550 6 жыл бұрын
This was both incredibly interesting and informative. Feels a bit sad that this is so rarely portrayed in games or pop history
@TheTariqibnziyad
@TheTariqibnziyad 6 жыл бұрын
öl ölson cuz if it was the game would turn into a generalship simulator, which would be both hard and non-mainstream.
@sirdestructor
@sirdestructor 6 жыл бұрын
This is the feeling I would really want from an RTS!
@parasitolegendario
@parasitolegendario 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think that would be the case, at least as far as Total War goes, army logistics already have an effect in certain cases that you need to consider, the problem is that those aren't very engaging aspects, they're numbers on a counter at the bottom and there is no middle ground between the campaign map and the real time battle. The whole mechanic of waiting for the right time of day or weather you want could be replaced with posturing, scouting and foraging from a camp, and have the battles start naturally instead of at the press of a button.
@socratrash
@socratrash 6 жыл бұрын
Hearts of iron or knights and merchants do this
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 6 жыл бұрын
+Louis Desaix You must be an armchair general yourself, if you are annoyed by them.
@ScrubbyBubbles
@ScrubbyBubbles 6 жыл бұрын
The amount of effort in these videos tho.
@jag3596
@jag3596 6 жыл бұрын
I want this to be a video game. "Roman Army Supply Management Sim 2018"
@nikolagjorgjievski7420
@nikolagjorgjievski7420 6 жыл бұрын
I wish Civ VI had it
@rayanhey2411
@rayanhey2411 6 жыл бұрын
Nikola Gjorgjievski it will make the game worst , it is already very slow and boring no need of more micromangement
@rayanhey2411
@rayanhey2411 6 жыл бұрын
Jag Delfin me too
@suxcawks
@suxcawks 6 жыл бұрын
Jag Delfin 100% would play. Let me build forts in Gaul and send foraging parties out whilst trying to locate the enemy.
@PrivateSlacker
@PrivateSlacker 6 жыл бұрын
Most games completely ignore supply for play-ability. Some include it but to such detail that it turns off most gamers. I wish there were games that found a middle ground and made supply very important, but very simple.
@krombopulos_michael
@krombopulos_michael 6 жыл бұрын
This is really interesting. As a civilian with no military experience, you often kind of just assume that generally war, especially in ancient times, was usually just a case of raising a bigger army than the other guys, with some help from clever use of terrain, formations and technology. It's really eye opening seeing how important stuff like this was and why it would be a limiting factor if it was done wrong.
@joel0joel0
@joel0joel0 6 жыл бұрын
it still is the probably most important task a general has to handle. Look at the defeats of the Wehrmacht and you will see, the reason they lost, was often their failing in supplying their armies and counter the operations of the allies which threatened their supply lines.
@MrPancake777
@MrPancake777 6 жыл бұрын
As the old saying goes- “Amateurs discuss tactics, professionals discuss logistics”
@photinodecay
@photinodecay 5 жыл бұрын
Also, "an army marches on its stomach." Don't have a way to feed those soldiers, and they will stop marching for you.
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 3 жыл бұрын
In Europe, armies on this scale are back by the early modern period. Those armies start to re-discover these sorts of principles. A field army that forages and requisitions is unable to cross its own path, for example. You can't eat from a land where you have already picked everything. The armies plan around resource areas. Like a zone of supply from a port or agricultural base from where it is possible to transport supplies. The manouver warfare of the time works around control of these things.
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 6 жыл бұрын
We follow up on some specific questions you all had regarding what would happen when supply and logistical systems came under attack. Video time stamps: 0:57 - Comparing the supply levels of different army types 4:04 - Scenario of a Roman army consuming supplies in the wilderness 4:49 - Scenario of two armies facing off while both live off the land 7:49 - Scenario of armies facing off while only one has a supply line 8:24 - Discussion of threats to the strategic base 9:41 - Discussion of threats to the operational base 10:34 - Discussion of threats to the supply line
@Rouxzie
@Rouxzie 5 жыл бұрын
Invicta where is part 4?????????
@austinmonreal2331
@austinmonreal2331 5 жыл бұрын
You should pin this to the top of the comments! Also, its fantastic to see how far this channel has come since Rome 2 release. Be proud, you've achieved much, and I eagerly look forward to seeing what else you can achieve.
@cubertmiso
@cubertmiso 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a other videos where you explain even more about these tactics before the "main" battle? Is the recon, spies, circling around, smaller skirmishes. etc. Fascinating stuff.
@NotTheWheel
@NotTheWheel 6 жыл бұрын
As a Logistic Specialist myself I find the Ancient worlds methods so fascinating and true to form to what makes Logistics such a great profession even today. If Agriculture is the backbone of society, Logistics is its legs. *“The line between disorder and order lies in logistics…” - Sun Tzu*
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 6 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear that professionals such as yourselves enjoy hearing about how things were done in the past! Anything in particular strike you as you watch these episodes?
@NotTheWheel
@NotTheWheel 6 жыл бұрын
In the logistics field, the method in which you can procure goods and the dependence on what is geographically available in your area is really important. I started as a Logistics Specialist in the Navy, the idea of establishing points and communication with all other areas of the globe to procure supplies ranging from equipment, food, fuel follow very much the same as in Ancient times. Including but not limited to finding outside sources when economically feasible in order to acquire goods. In Supply no one day is really the same. You are always calculating the best effective routes and maintaining vast records and accounts for all personnel needs. It is a very well oiled machine. From that we can thank our ancient ancestors for the methods they put into place.
@Pan_Z
@Pan_Z 6 жыл бұрын
Love these. Really helps us understands the circumstances and problems in campaigns.
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 6 жыл бұрын
I'm loving how people are getting to appreciate all the often overlooked minutia of warfare. Much of what makes a great commander is a mastery of these basic principles. If this is the sort of thing that interests you I definitely recommend "In the Name of Rome" by Adrian Goldsworthy which discusses the command style of all of Rome's great generals.
@Pan_Z
@Pan_Z 6 жыл бұрын
Noted. Thank you.
@davidx.5953
@davidx.5953 Жыл бұрын
Stay with meeeeeeeee
@terras6418
@terras6418 6 жыл бұрын
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics." - Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980 It's very true. The best army would be completely worthless without food, water, and supplies.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree with you more.
@meekmeads
@meekmeads 3 жыл бұрын
Terminators: Just supplies
@syncradar
@syncradar Жыл бұрын
And an army that doesnt need food, water, sleep, and doesnt get tired is of a monsters
@jaywalkersunite
@jaywalkersunite Жыл бұрын
And a great reason why the US military is the most powerful in the world - superior logistics. We have an incredible ability to move people and material across the globe quickly and effectively.
@JenteKramer
@JenteKramer 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man, this series fills me with the same wonder and awe, as when i was a boy, learning for the first time about the Romans. My friend, i thank you :) I want to hear all about the daily stuff. The things that impacted normal daily life. It is a huge untapped field here on youtube. Chears to you and this series, and i hope for many future series like it! Thanks again and have a great one, Jente
@TrustyLicious
@TrustyLicious 6 жыл бұрын
I haven’t even thought about the majority of these logistic obstacles in order to have a strong army. Thank you for the education! I look forward to the next video.
@dodobyrde4645
@dodobyrde4645 6 жыл бұрын
Invicta is truly a great channel. And this video in my opinion is the best video.
@cup_check_official
@cup_check_official 6 жыл бұрын
A roman walks into a bar, holds up two fingers, and says "I'll take five beers please"
@HermelinCze
@HermelinCze 6 жыл бұрын
omg i cant believe i laught to this :D
@danielhalachev4714
@danielhalachev4714 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't get it.
@ace8099
@ace8099 6 жыл бұрын
daniel halachev V is the Roman numeral for 5
@alperenaydin6139
@alperenaydin6139 6 жыл бұрын
And that beer was brought to him through a complex logistical system
@scipioafricanus6417
@scipioafricanus6417 6 жыл бұрын
Beer was sawn as feminine, weak and barbaric by the Romans. Wine is the proper drink of a civilised man.
@danielhalachev4714
@danielhalachev4714 6 жыл бұрын
The Roman empire was such a great country. Legions and Roman strategy and armies left an amazing mark in history. However, only the pure tactics and armies are discussed. You, Invicta, however, put so much detail in logistics - a field of science, which can hardly be found on the Net, while still keeping the documentary interesting. Great job!
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 6 жыл бұрын
The Roman Republic. Once we get into the Empire, it's just keeping the gains of the Republic.
@johnclark5311
@johnclark5311 4 жыл бұрын
not a country
@constantinexi6489
@constantinexi6489 6 жыл бұрын
Y’all are asking for Jerusalem part 4 and here I am still waiting for Evolution of the Roman Legions part 2
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 6 жыл бұрын
Jerusalem part 4 has started up again slowly
@SaintJames14
@SaintJames14 6 жыл бұрын
Constantine XI same fren, iktf
@blackferdinand2260
@blackferdinand2260 6 жыл бұрын
For some reason this is exciting
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 6 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd get in to the minutia of topics like this which may seem boring at first glance. But thanks to you all for your support and probing questions we have been able to do so with great success
@spektakelkd
@spektakelkd 5 жыл бұрын
Thank god Invicta has returned to these kind of short documentaries concerning the Romans. Thank you humbly
@LunarShuriken1
@LunarShuriken1 5 жыл бұрын
I loved the series Rome because they actually showed this where as no other movies or depictions really have
@asianboy969
@asianboy969 6 жыл бұрын
So the guys who quote from last videos seem legit “Amateur do strategy, professionals do logistics”
@ericjohnson7234
@ericjohnson7234 5 жыл бұрын
Survivors do both.
@asianboy969
@asianboy969 5 жыл бұрын
Eric Johnson sound like every college student mate
@sonnguyenvan1599
@sonnguyenvan1599 5 жыл бұрын
^ Underrated comment lol.
@thewisp7447
@thewisp7447 5 жыл бұрын
But I'm an amateur who loves logistics!
@GregTom2
@GregTom2 6 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to have a real time strategy game that acknowledges the logistic needs of your army without having you advance through centuries of history and building infrastructures in the middle of battle. You shouldn't have unarmed "villagers" foraging; instead you should acknowledge that a significant portion of your own forces must be used to maintain your supply route and forage / pillage / requisition the lumber, fodder and food it needs; with the entire game not being set over centuries of history, but rather one summer of campaign, where no additional troops are trained, no additional technologies discovered, no additional keeps built. Actually here's a couple of ideas coming to mind: - Unaligned non-combatants as a meaningful game resource: Your own forces' discipline and the length of occupation and interaction determines how much intel they give you or your enemies, and how much of their resources you can commission. - Unaligned brigands and deserters left over after a rout or march that could potentially be rallied or court martial'd. - A supply line reaching out of the game map as a critical source of supplies which may be interrupted by enemy forces or rebelling non-combatants. - The need to march columns of troops at a slow pace that depends on road infrastructure and to build camps that are more or less spread out depending on the amount of foraging required. - Troop morale that interacts with their discipline towards local non-combatants and effectiveness in combat, and is affected by various factors such as food, march length, religion, and leadership. - Progressive decay of your forces by desertion and sickness. - Balancing the needs to have all of your troops concentrated and ready for action simultaneously, or to separate your columns to accelerate their progression by lowering required foraging. - Low stakes raids and skirmishes on scouting and foraging forces. - Officers in your army having unique / randomized skills and perks: Sir A. is a galant commissar and if sent to requisition from non-combatant locals, the locals' hostility will be significantly lower. Viscount B. is a father to his men who will suffer less penalty from low morale, Lieutenant C. is a skilled hunter and a detachment under his leadership will scout 25% further. Warlord D. is a proper asshole and enemy morale takes double damage during skirmishes. Centurion E. is heroic and can rally men 25% as fast after a rout. - Battles turning into a rout long before the entire force is destroyed, causing large morale damage to the losing army, making a large portion of their forces desert, making the routed force vulnerable to defeat in details and paralyzing them until they become rallied in an unoccupied camp. Different strategies in battle having disproportionate impact on enemy morale and their chance of breaking into a rout: projectiles being very lethal but slow to cause the victims to give ground, whereas a single heavy cavalry charge might be enough for a detachment to rout.
@scipioafricanus6417
@scipioafricanus6417 6 жыл бұрын
GregTom2 rogan
@GregTom2
@GregTom2 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with it; is "Rogan" the name of a game?
@scipioafricanus6417
@scipioafricanus6417 6 жыл бұрын
GregTom2 wololo
@PrivateSlacker
@PrivateSlacker 6 жыл бұрын
Most games completely ignore supply for play-ability. Some include it but to such detail that it turns off most gamers. I wish there were games that found a middle ground and made supply very important, but very simple.
@archangel1178
@archangel1178 6 жыл бұрын
I can't speak to any RTS, but Mount and Blade definitely makes you acknowledge the importance of logistics, even if it's on a small scale. If you don't feed your party, your party collapses. So it's in your interest to routinely buy supplies or raid enemy villages. Wargame is another great example of a game where logistics are important. Again, not as in depth here as the game is not on the strategic level, but almost all of your units consumes fuel and ammunition, as such, you have to routinely keep them resupplied and maintained by either bringimg them back to your Forward Operating Base or using supply trucks and supply helicopters. Ideally, you use the supply vehicles as an intermediary to connect your frontline units with your Forward Operating Base. But here's the thing. All your units, including your supply units, are finite. Furthermore, your supply units, and your Forward Operating Base carry a finite amount of fuel, ammo, and spare parts. Thus, you have to be careful with who or what you choose to resupply. Your logistics becomes a part of your overall strategy to win the battle. And I have personally seen battles won and lost on bad logistics. I have seen games where one side absolutely dominates the battlefield. They launch a brilliant, combined air and ground assault, utterly overwhelming the other side through sheer speed and firepower and nearly winning the game. Only to lose because their tanks and helicopters ran out of fuel and ammo and are then left immobilized and vulnerable to the enemy counterattack. Hell, some of the biggest battles on the map are battles to secure better deployment zones that allow you to spawn supply vehicles closer to the frontline. In fact, logistics is a huge part of the game.
@SuperRichyrich11
@SuperRichyrich11 6 жыл бұрын
Men win battles, Logistics win wars
@shabbatman370
@shabbatman370 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Richards Hookers win wars
@AdmiralBonetoPick
@AdmiralBonetoPick 4 жыл бұрын
Women win arguments.
@kaydens6964
@kaydens6964 4 жыл бұрын
@@AdmiralBonetoPick Only because modern men allow them to win.
@truthissacred
@truthissacred 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaydens6964 true
@floydlooney6837
@floydlooney6837 5 жыл бұрын
In many ancient wars, they did grind to a halt for winter. Good point that a proper supply line would be an advantage.
@RevanTrajan
@RevanTrajan 6 жыл бұрын
Another phenomenal video Invicta! These have all been excellent. I love how you have kept this series going! Keep up the good work!
@starhawck
@starhawck 6 жыл бұрын
It's great that you make videos such as these. Not many people see or appreciate what is going behind the great battles, that they know so well.
@sussurus
@sussurus 6 жыл бұрын
I've watched a few of your videos in the past but these past three videos you've put out have been incredibly interesting to watch and have earned my sub.
@catherine7083
@catherine7083 5 жыл бұрын
This is so fascinating, I've never seen anyone else go into these details regarding logistics in ancient times and I've been curious for so long. Awesome video please make more similar ones
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 6 жыл бұрын
We need more logistical videos. Its interesting to see how modern rely on the logistic trains more than how we used to.
@ryannorris5635
@ryannorris5635 6 жыл бұрын
Best series of vids I've seen in a while talking about more than just a battle! Outstanding!
@chocolad4221
@chocolad4221 6 жыл бұрын
Romans in blue make me feel so uncomfortable
@gianlucaborg195
@gianlucaborg195 6 жыл бұрын
Green is Brutii! Rome total war 1 ftw!
@rogueraven1333
@rogueraven1333 6 жыл бұрын
Rtw1 maybe the best game ever made
@Ryder2010G6
@Ryder2010G6 6 жыл бұрын
Never liked the Julii. I always fancied the Brutii
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 6 жыл бұрын
The marines used blue.
@Michael_Brock
@Michael_Brock 6 жыл бұрын
Legions I believe at different times, and different legions at the same time used the 4 colours of the horse racing teams. (Hippodrome). White, red, blue and green. 2 colours in one fraction. Junior and senior teams. 2 in other. I forget which colours where aligned. And senior/junior. Emperor Justinian in the eastern empire had to send in the legions when both fractions united against​ him. Blue was the colour of the marine legions I believe.
@cipsahoy9639
@cipsahoy9639 6 жыл бұрын
Some of the most important parts of the roman war machine and insanely underrated when talking about war...totally awesome vid thank you!
@eduardoADSL
@eduardoADSL 6 жыл бұрын
I just saw a video about drones refueling fighters on air, haha, in warfare some things never changes.
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 6 жыл бұрын
its pretty interesting how a lot of principles do in fact stay the same
@steevemartial4084
@steevemartial4084 6 жыл бұрын
I came here just to see Robbie McSweeney's artwork. I'm so glad I did it, your channel has a lot to offer !
@jld1239
@jld1239 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent subject. It’s amazing the sophistication not only in battle, but everything that goes into it from the moment you left home soil.
@mikesimms5750
@mikesimms5750 6 жыл бұрын
I have truly come to love everything you post. Never quit.
@MAJMonkey
@MAJMonkey 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video on another obscure but interesting topic. Keep it up!
@raresuta5895
@raresuta5895 6 жыл бұрын
You are quickly becoming my favorite KZfaq channel! Keep it up ! I came here for your battle videos but I really love the ones that you've been doing lately about logistics. When you are done with this series you should do a video about the Dacian wars because I think that they were very interesting but not very well known
@dodobyrde4645
@dodobyrde4645 6 жыл бұрын
This so cool. It is fascinating that even these factors can turn tables in a battlefield.
@mylifeisacomplexpastiche7901
@mylifeisacomplexpastiche7901 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you could say they turn the... _dinner_ tables?
@gioscordato
@gioscordato 6 жыл бұрын
You don’t often hear of this part of war and is extremely fascinating. The video is so well done and engaging too!
@danieledstrom5777
@danieledstrom5777 6 жыл бұрын
This series is so damn good. I'm surprised we have not seen stuff like this before. Also, the production is very well done, great balance of information without boring the audience with petty details.
@KrzychuGamingPL
@KrzychuGamingPL 6 жыл бұрын
Very concrete info, with context and dedicated pictures too! Thank you Another thanks for sharing the main subpoints in a comment!
@TGApuleius
@TGApuleius 6 жыл бұрын
Another recommendation is Hunger and the Sword: Warfare and Food Supply in Roman Republican Wars (264-30 B. C.) by Paul Erdkamp. Unfortunately, it's gone up in price a bit, but it's also pretty thorough if a touch repetitive.
@Utardiaresident
@Utardiaresident 6 жыл бұрын
This has been such a good series! You do a fantastic job.
@deanbuss1678
@deanbuss1678 6 жыл бұрын
" An army moves on its belly!" My dad used to say. This is quite interesting. thanks Invicta!
@MascotWP
@MascotWP 5 жыл бұрын
Your dad was quoting Napoleon. Usually translated as "An army marches on it's stomach"
@xRougeShadowx
@xRougeShadowx 6 жыл бұрын
I'm loving this particular series extremely well done sir
@SOMA-SOSA
@SOMA-SOSA 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Please keep making more videos!
@skyanimal
@skyanimal 5 жыл бұрын
Julien, this video is very well done. You got presentation and insight, great history coverage. Thank you! Keep up the good work.
@noisyshot3961
@noisyshot3961 6 жыл бұрын
Dude I just found ur channel, the way u present ur videos is quite insane. I insta subbed since I loved history but couldn’t find time to read about. Definitely on the top 5 of my fav channels. Good fucken job!!
@supremeleader4687
@supremeleader4687 4 жыл бұрын
Exciting topic & very well narrated !!! Thumbs up
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын
my compliments to you on how informative this video was.
@MrSupergingerman
@MrSupergingerman 6 жыл бұрын
Super super interesting. There are tons of channels that talk about battles, but less so the logistics, and I think the logistics are generally much more important!
@GaudialisCorvus
@GaudialisCorvus 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I've never realized how interesting logistics actually is! Great video
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 6 жыл бұрын
glad to hear a lot of people are expressing similar excitement
@calebsmith7633
@calebsmith7633 6 жыл бұрын
I love these logistics videos, great work!
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 6 жыл бұрын
hooray! So glad to hear you guys love the topic as much as me!
@calebsmith7633
@calebsmith7633 6 жыл бұрын
Invicta it’s such an undervalued component of war fare. I am glad you are here to help raise awareness to how often it is overlooked when observing history of war and tactics. While you’re here: Video was excellent quality as always, down to the time stamped description. We thank you for your work; your videos are educational and entertaining without sacrificing accuracy.
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent Model. I hope you focused more on these ignored dynamics in major battles. Armatures study tactics... etc.
@sandtr00per
@sandtr00per Жыл бұрын
this was really nicely done, very informative and you are right, in school you barely look at this aspect of conflict. Logistics is often even more important than the army itself (or at least equally). Thank you for sharing your knowledge in very interesting and nicely way :)
@AJRArcade
@AJRArcade 6 жыл бұрын
Great episode, lookin forward to the next one!
@asefb9864
@asefb9864 6 жыл бұрын
I could watch / listen to you all day long 😍 and I'm not just saying that! Love you man, keep up the awesome material! - your biggest fan in Syria
@2woDimensional
@2woDimensional 6 жыл бұрын
What a great and educative video! Props on the research man.
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 6 жыл бұрын
thanks : )
@2woDimensional
@2woDimensional 6 жыл бұрын
No need to thank me man :) I've been watching for a while just recently started commenting on youtube in general. Your vids on the Romans really helped me out in gaming (in total war and other tactical games), in general and in my history classes :D Keep up the good work!!!
@Tupinamba77
@Tupinamba77 6 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video, thanks!
@KirstenBayes
@KirstenBayes 6 жыл бұрын
Really well done, much appreciated.
@cleptuno
@cleptuno 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more videos about war logistics! It's a crucial and fascinating topic.
@pickupthatcan9696
@pickupthatcan9696 6 жыл бұрын
This could have been such a great management addition to the Rome: Total war games
@littledevil9872
@littledevil9872 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid man. i enjoy learning about ancient logistics.
@cagoenlaleche
@cagoenlaleche 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing work, congratulations !
@kylebroflovski5333
@kylebroflovski5333 6 жыл бұрын
Realy enjoyable and informative about ancient warfare
@dmh0667ify
@dmh0667ify 6 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me of how to play the Roman side in the "Cantabrian Wars" scenario in AGEOD's Alea Jacta Est game. I never could win until I figured out how to supply my Legions as they entered Cantabrian and Asturian territory. You end up having to create Depot/Encampments and garrisoning them with Auxilia, as you progress deeper and deeper into their territory. Haven't completed my reading of Daniel Varga's "Roman Wars in Spain" book to verify what historically occurred, but the sources that Invicta mentions likely bears this out, too. Great video, Invicta, thanks!
@ostrowulf
@ostrowulf 3 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy looking into logistics, and am currently on a bit of a Roman kick, so these videos have been great.
@snorrystarp
@snorrystarp 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff dude! Keep it up 👏🏼👏🏼
@ledonnek1974
@ledonnek1974 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, very insightful and informative...
@jesuslimon-gonzalez1913
@jesuslimon-gonzalez1913 6 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about animal used in war of antiquity
@ciroalphalyon3662
@ciroalphalyon3662 6 жыл бұрын
Yes ! especially mastiff's / War Dog's
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 6 жыл бұрын
like how they were raised and trained?
@axelva2635
@axelva2635 6 жыл бұрын
Invicta yes pls
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 6 жыл бұрын
Such as... wait... let me guess: elephants? O.O Horses and dogs were actually much more common. Horses are very much dealt with when dealing with cavalry. So it will have to be dogs.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 6 жыл бұрын
PS- I think there's one case in African history in which they tried to use cows as mounts for ad-hoc cavalry. That's an original one.
@AlexCovic1
@AlexCovic1 6 жыл бұрын
More of these please!
@MrToph1971
@MrToph1971 6 жыл бұрын
Your right on the money mate we still work like this today using 4 types of echelons A ,B ,F and FF in that order on the large scale . this also scales right down to the section level and believe it or not we can still have all the same problems that all the historical forces had even with our tech. love these video's and totaly agree with Pan Z keep giving us this great content :) hope you all have a great day and thanks again.
@bankstime101
@bankstime101 6 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see more on this topic!
@waqarsaleem8611
@waqarsaleem8611 6 жыл бұрын
Loving these videos man. Could u do a video on currencies used by Romans, Carthaginians and Greeks, would love to see that.
@tramelz
@tramelz 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your work. We love your content. Greetings from Germany
@ares106
@ares106 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. And well done video.
@franciscoosuna259
@franciscoosuna259 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you
@danclayberger770
@danclayberger770 2 жыл бұрын
All of the historic videos need to have a significant amount of time allotted by our "trusted" Historians detailing the logistics that supported the "Wat" effort including both sides.
@peternovak5612
@peternovak5612 6 жыл бұрын
Love your work and want to thank you for doing it :) !
@lindenwilliam2489
@lindenwilliam2489 6 жыл бұрын
You must’ve been gaining a lot of knowledge through this channel, you know what else you gained? Our hearts
@tomski38
@tomski38 6 жыл бұрын
I really like this series!
@StefanMilo
@StefanMilo 6 жыл бұрын
Quality video and an interesting topic!
@ericcloud1023
@ericcloud1023 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading these videos man! No one worries about logistics, all they want is "battle after battle!" With no understanding of how those soldiers aren't starving. Or why you're massive army lost to a "inferior" force because they were well fed Vs starving legions. Keep these videos coming please !
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for appreciating this look at the minutia of combat that really matters as much if not more than the battlefield tactics most people focus on
@ME-hm7zm
@ME-hm7zm 6 жыл бұрын
As a kid, that was something I liked about "Lords of the Realm II". Armies had to be fed (really sucked when enemy armies came visiting) and you had to actually produce the weapon sets for the different soldier classes (or buy them at userous prices). And, army recruitment depleted your population. If you didn't pay attention to things, you could readily cripple yourself economically, or try and raise an army of just guys with wooden pitchforks since you didn't build any weapons for them.
@DRGTLSSNDR
@DRGTLSSNDR 6 жыл бұрын
Simply great.
@Uncle_Fred
@Uncle_Fred 6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these videos on supplies and logistics. This kind of thing doesn't get nearly enough attention. Can you do a video on scouting next?
@Nor1998_
@Nor1998_ 5 жыл бұрын
I like these topics.Very interesting to know the details.
@milesl6070
@milesl6070 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, love you videos! Also, I was wondering if you could do a video on how effective ranged forces were at different points in history in different regions of the world. I feel like that would be super interesting because I don’t see a lot of information on it. Thanks!
@scipioafricanus6417
@scipioafricanus6417 6 жыл бұрын
mkl feels like a little bit too large of a topic, ranged forces were used at all over the world at all times. Kind of hard to boil down in a video or two.
@GuntherRommel
@GuntherRommel 6 жыл бұрын
I found you because of Lindybeige; one of your videos came up as recommended. I immediately subscribed and started going through your library. A week later, Metatron pimped your channel. Are you an actual historian, or just a skilled amateur? You're getting recognized by heavy hitters!
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 5 жыл бұрын
Bryan Schmidt glad you were able to find your way over. I'm just a fan of history and have a main job as an engineer in the renewable energy sector.
@DCrispim
@DCrispim 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Keep it up!
@peterhoffman5616
@peterhoffman5616 6 жыл бұрын
great video!!
@rolinazmitia5622
@rolinazmitia5622 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I'm amazed by the level of research, dedication and overall level of genius you are for making such topics, something fascinating. If it wasn't for you, I'd roll my eyes if someone mentioned logistics xD But you are amazing, keep the great work!
@volcryndarkstar3283
@volcryndarkstar3283 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm subscribing. Please continue this incredible work.
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for taking the time to show your support : )
@volcryndarkstar3283
@volcryndarkstar3283 6 жыл бұрын
Invicta Thanks for taking the time to thank me for taking the time.
@poisondwarfnz3837
@poisondwarfnz3837 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome channel.... subbed
@iandomorocks6731
@iandomorocks6731 6 жыл бұрын
I always love learning about logistics but I can't find sources on them this really helps. Thanks!
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 6 жыл бұрын
awesome, I've listed my own sources in the description which you could look up as well
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 6 жыл бұрын
11:00 "Nice supply depot you have there. It would be a shame if anything happened to it..."
@peterinbrat
@peterinbrat 2 жыл бұрын
One topic I'd like to see covered is the logistics for horses and other animals used in the campaigns. I think in at least one campaign the horses/mules were abandoned or eaten bc the cost benefit of having them had changed.
@marnitzjankowitz425
@marnitzjankowitz425 6 жыл бұрын
keep this coming
@casualjag7818
@casualjag7818 6 жыл бұрын
The logistics of warfare have always been fascination to me, I'm glad others see that as well
@JayM409
@JayM409 6 ай бұрын
An excellent book on the topic is Donald W, Engels' book, "Alexander the Great and the Logistics of the Macedonian Army." He lists how much food and water the average man and animal required per day, how much the typical pack animal can carry, and the upper limits as too how much food could be carried before the numbers of animals required reach ridiculous numbers. Large armies are extremely difficult to keep supplied, and they move slowly as well. The Huge army of Xerxes took 90 days to travel 360 miles, an average of only 4 miles per day. They passed through 5 supply bases. Once they were in Greece proper, their fleet was the primary source of supply. The delay at Thermopylae, although only a week, was a serious blow to the logistics of the huge Persian army.
@gianlucaborg195
@gianlucaborg195 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I also love this factor of warfare and intricate details of such periods (even more recent ones too!) It was very detailed. However, I would have mentioned army sizes, wherein, the Parthians would strike in smaller numbers, while the barbarians would move in hoards. The Legion had a more methodic system, building roads, forts and so on (they indeed were excellent engineers) The Hellenistic armies on the other-hand were lesser engineers compared to the Romans while they have around the same more or less size. This is important as horse back based armies would be able to move to small towns, or quickly get to the places they need to go, while the Hellenistic force would not be able to do this. Also, one could easilly put some extra food and drink on your horse, particularly light horsemen. Any way, keep it up! Edit, I also wanted ti mention the effects of fighting on home turf, wherein the home player would have a supply advantage (nearer to cities maybe, or knowing better the more rich land and so on) Love the effort and detail too!!!
@tomkempf8460
@tomkempf8460 2 жыл бұрын
I love this content
@tluna3890
@tluna3890 6 жыл бұрын
Keep it coming wish they would make a good movie or series about rome
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