Three Cheap AliExpress SSDs: Are they trash?

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In one of my previous videos I looked at a bunch of cheap Micro SD Cards where most of them turned out very well. This time I look at a couple of SSDs and compare them to the cheapest comparable SSD from my country and a 7200RPM HDD.
For me it's every so often an Issue, that I get asked to "Make my PC faster". And one of the first steps is to replace the HDD with an SSD. However telling people that the parts cost ~20$ already sours the mood, thus I looked at these SSDs to see if they are a good alternative. And they indeed are.
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BU KING: de.aliexpress.com/item/100500...
Somnambulist: de.aliexpress.com/item/100500...
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@dyXurChannel 9 ай бұрын

In regards to long-term testing. I started testing some of the drives / cards, but would like your input on this issue. Check out this community post for more info: kzfaq.infoUgkx-QyWJm01kRqExuClV2dTtY_9YXvas27w

@icedteaaddict4842 4 ай бұрын

I took the risk and bought a 2tb ACOS about a year ago, I was expecting for it to fail within the year, but I am pretty impressed to see that it has lasted thus far.

@Denis7947. Ай бұрын

Nice

@miguelmoco7628 10 ай бұрын

keep up with the good work, its always good to test cheap bargains and get to know were to spend your money on a budget

@miguelmoco7628 10 ай бұрын

I bought "XrayDisk" and "KingSpec" and they are very reliable SSD´s. Just a warning the only SSD that melted inside after 2 weeks of use was the "Goldenfir".

@Annoye 10 ай бұрын

They are very reliable : aka didn’t burn after few days…

@DaBombtasi 10 ай бұрын

Goldenfir used to be a fully micron ssd. It was a 1:1 BX500 copy with different firmware

@DrNachtschatten 10 ай бұрын

Goldenfire, lol

@manyord7089 10 ай бұрын

non of them hold there speed after 20-30%, why you promoting trash stuff lmao

@miguelmoco7628 10 ай бұрын

@@manyord7089 Im sorry didnt want to promote anything that its not working for someone , but im only saying for a cheap ssd it worked for me....i do a lot of mining don need an ultra expensive ssd...just my opinion, but im aware that its crap overall yes

@adnanadnan-mi1gc 27 күн бұрын

Thanks, I knew all I wanted, this was helpful

@DarkDragonEWA 10 ай бұрын

I picked up a couple of the Somnambulist drives a while back because I liked the design and wanted to see if I could swap the case over to a higher end drive. That idea died pretty fast when I saw it was just plastic but I decided to throw one into a system to see how it performed. Been using it as a boot drive for almost 6 months and it's held up pretty well.

@Athenian888 10 ай бұрын

Hello friend.Have you tested the disk's temperatures during operation? Because I suspect that with a metal cover they will have much lower temps.

@DarkDragonEWA 10 ай бұрын

@@Athenian888 It gets a little warmer than I'd like, but I haven't seen it ever get into dangerous temps. At the moment it's sitting at 40c and the highest I can remember seeing is around 60c.

@MrJ0mmy 7 ай бұрын

i got a Somnambulist 64gb ssd for 6.79nzd included tax and shipping on welcome deal works great for the price

@alispeed5095 7 ай бұрын

@@MrJ0mmyhow are the speeds? Recently bought one and it has an issue where speeds are fast for about 6 seconds then suddenly drop to about 10mb/s. Any solution for this?

@zetsubou3704 7 ай бұрын

@@alispeed5095That cause it doesn't have any cache. No possible fix other than allowing the disk to use system RAM as cache but I have never tried that.

@carlosIC 5 ай бұрын

They are cheap but not the best value without dram cache. For gaming yeah, but def very slow when they deal with many small files

@Slash27015 7 ай бұрын

i've got dirt cheap drives like these in my servers, hp proliant g6's, and they've ran nonstop for 4 years. these drives are great if you have the space for multiple drives, and the know-how to setup a raid.

@yararaq 3 ай бұрын

I've just got a dell server with 10 sff bays and I'm seriously considering this

@r2_aboudi351 11 ай бұрын

u've earned a new subscriber, keep up ❤️

@dyXurChannel 11 ай бұрын

Thanks. I hope you enjoy all future content as well!

@ImaginaPower 6 ай бұрын

They WILL slow down considerably on big file transfers

@Sphyxx 6 ай бұрын

Only time will tell, i have an intel ssd since 2014 and it still works flawlessly

@dyXurChannel 6 ай бұрын

Intel SSDs are pretty good to begin with and even used ones are a good bet when looking for reliable storage. As far as I know they did shut down their enterprise SSDs though which were fantastic (but also expensive).

@dogsauce19 6 ай бұрын

Were you able to test if they all work with HDD status LED? Noticed that some drives would never light up the HDD led

@dyXurChannel 6 ай бұрын

I don't recall the status LEDs not being on, but I didn't really look out for it. I think I never even in my life looked at the HDD LED.

@ingusmant 4 ай бұрын

Did you make any reliability/torture tests? My problem with these drives is knowing if I'll lose all data or not

@dyXurChannel 4 ай бұрын

Reliability test are ongoing, but if the data you store in it is important, then I'd rather go with a known brand that offers some form of data recovery if it fails within X years.

@CheewiiBlue 5 ай бұрын

are you planning to do another episode with flash drives?

@dyXurChannel 5 ай бұрын

The next one in this "series" is gonna be about M.2 SSDs. I'll do flash drives after that.

@jacobjay2892 10 ай бұрын

Well done. I have bought few of them, including 1TB Somnabulist and after few months I have zero issues with them. I know that they are DRAM-less but as a game storage they work great. Considering that only few manufacturers make flash they might be built with the same parts like big brands but without big margin for marketing.

@dyXurChannel 10 ай бұрын

Another commenter mentioned it, but there is a chance that the flash is b-ware. But for data that isn't important it's really great

@Zangetsu_X2 7 ай бұрын

@@dyXurChannel "the flash is b-ware"

@THiNK103088 6 ай бұрын

How's the drive holding up now?

@MMD157 6 ай бұрын

For games chinese SSDs with large storage looks good.

@arnezbridges93 6 ай бұрын

@@Zangetsu_X2oh its beware alright. With chinese product you never know when theyll swap for cheap part to make a higher margin. However in this case they mean rejected bits from Major Manufactures. But minor isduex that can be corrected with software. But Major Manufacturers dont wanna risk it since they have 3-5 warranties.

@juicycs 5 ай бұрын

Great Video i was wondering how cheap aliexpress ssd were will you do a long term update?

@dyXurChannel 5 ай бұрын

Yes. I already did one in the community tab. The Somnambulist started tobnot have any brocken blocks, but would randomly disconnect

@Zangetsu_X2 7 ай бұрын

yooooo dude! what is this F3 benchmark thingy and where can i find it? thank you man.

@dyXurChannel 7 ай бұрын

F3 is originally a tool to check if a Flash Drive has the advertised capacity. Similar to h2testw. You can easily install it with smth like `sudo apt install f3`. You can find all you need to know here: fight-flash-fraud.readthedocs.io/en/stable/

@Zangetsu_X2 7 ай бұрын

@@dyXurChannel ahh! thanks for the info man! i just used something like that to verify a 128 GB flash drive that i got from Micro Center for free. Even though it was from Micro Center (they had some special that if you show up you get free drive with a coupon), it was free, so figured i would check it out lolol. well, it turns out that the drive WAS the full 128 GB capacity, and the damn test took OVER FOUR HOURS!!! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

@Zangetsu_X2 7 ай бұрын

@@dyXurChannel oh, it turns out that i used h2testw to verify my flash drives.

@churblefurbles 10 ай бұрын

Not sure if you can pass a trim command over ide, probably best to use something like an x25-e for that kind of thing.

@dyXurChannel 10 ай бұрын

Do you mean trim as in with SCSI? In that case I'm sure it would work. Although with that kind of application I'd go with more reputable manufactures.

@Zangetsu_X2 7 ай бұрын

you can pass any command over IDE. SATA SSDs are IDE.

@Mizai 9 ай бұрын

really good content your making tho

@7heMech 9 ай бұрын

I'm surprised this channel isn't big.

@dyXurChannel 9 ай бұрын

Well it grew larger than I ever thought it would get to be fully honest. :D

@Denis7947. 7 ай бұрын

Cool

@MrGedem 4 ай бұрын

Actually for OS responsiveness you want to compare random read/write 4k speeds, not linear r/w speeds.

@tehfeezsadik8700 6 ай бұрын

My hard drive is dying and I am thinking to upgrade to an SSD, is it worth it to use as an internal SSD.

@dyXurChannel 6 ай бұрын

Oh it is definitely worth going to an SSD. Of course your best option would be a M.2 SSD if you have the slot for it, but even a regular SATA SSD (the type in the video) is going to be a massive upgrade over a HDD (especially if its a 5400rpm and not a 7200rpm one).

@zangetsu6638 6 ай бұрын

"My hard drive is dying and I am thinking to upgrade to an SSD, is it worth it to use as an internal SSD."

@vicarx7153 10 ай бұрын

Bought 2 ACOS drives to use as external SSDs, not problematic at all

@dyXurChannel 10 ай бұрын

Been doing the same with a 512GB one. Have it encrypted for backing up important and sensitive data (taxes, contracts, etc.) and so far it works very well.

@UnPatoMas. 5 ай бұрын

After 5 moths, how is it going? I wanted to buy one too

@jsnotlout3312 6 ай бұрын

Im actually surprised there werent just sd Cards slapped in them. Although the speeds should have tipped me off XD

@dyXurChannel 6 ай бұрын

I think it would be more expensive for them to make an adapter board and put a SD of that size in there. It would've been funny though, since I know that "SSD"s like that exist.

@gersonl 3 ай бұрын

That's called eMMC.

@jsnotlout3312 3 ай бұрын

@@gersonl eMMC is like 1 step above SD cards lol, they both suck for long term use

@gersonl 3 ай бұрын

@@jsnotlout3312 basically eMMC is on board sd flash memory, no?

@jsnotlout3312 3 ай бұрын

@@gersonl Yeah pretty much. I thought it was slightly different, but it appears to be the same

@JUDEtheORB 2 ай бұрын

is the ACOS one still working

@dyXurChannel 2 ай бұрын

Yes. The ACOS is still working.

@ivanlimzg 9 ай бұрын

I'm guessing you used an enclosure instead of directly connecting to SATA?

@dyXurChannel 9 ай бұрын

Yes. I've hooked them up over USB instead of SATA. I found the SATA results to be too flaky for a good comparison. Especially accross multiple PCs.

@zangetsu6638 6 ай бұрын

@@dyXurChannel first off, you are awesome and thank you so much for your work!!! but what do you mean by flaky? i've always found using SATA connections to be better and faster all around compared to USB connected drives. having to convert between SATA to USB with adapters often slows things down, and some IDE drive commands don't always make it through for some reason. BUT: i have seen different computers have different behaviours on the same drive before. like some drives that are having problematic issues on one machine might able to be seen and recognized and read on write when using another machine.

@dyXurChannel 6 ай бұрын

@@zangetsu6638 The problem I had with SATA, was that the depending on how the other SATA ports were hit the SSD would spew vastly different results (might be a power draw issue on my end?). This made the results quite flaky and unusable. On USB however this was not a problem and my main concern with these SSDs was not speed, but if they are the correct size, so it didn't matter as much.

@zangetsu6638 5 ай бұрын

@@dyXurChannel ahh, i see. thanks for the explanation! btw how many drives were hooked up at the same time? i think that i've probably only ever had two SSDs hooked up at once, so maybe that helped with ? lol i don't know. Also, i've found the different types of SATA controllers on the motherboards act differently from one model to the next model of SATA controller. it was nice to have more than one available computer that was very different from each other, to test iffy drives. i was surprised that some chipset / controllers were buggy or picky and sensitive, while others were more forgiving and could still access failing drives. but i usually almost always hit the highest speeds over SATA than over USB.

@dyXurChannel 5 ай бұрын

@@zangetsu6638 The only PC I had in use when making that video was my NAS with 6HDDs and 2 SSDs and my Desktop with 2 SSDs & 3 HDDs. So that was very likely the problem

@Ni5ei 5 ай бұрын

When looking at higher capacity drives, the difference with A-brands isn't that big. The Acos 1TB version is €43.55 (incl. VAT for my country) on Ali while a Samsung 870 QVO costs €60 on Amazon. That's less than €17 more for an A-brand with years of warranty.

@dyXurChannel 5 ай бұрын

There is definitively a point of diminishing returns, that's true. But I also wouldn't trust one of these SSDs with over 1TB+ of data to begin with.

@UnPatoMas. 5 ай бұрын

@@dyXurChannelalso in other countries the Samsung is way more expensive due to unregulated prices

@mrrobot4840 4 ай бұрын

I'm using Somnambulist 1tb from 6-7 months now I was using it as a external hard drive then swapped my internal hard drive (HDD) with Somnambulist 1tb. It's working fine i never have had any issues the temp sensor on these Chinese SSDs are messed up other than that it is working perfectly on my pc.

@dyXurChannel 4 ай бұрын

That's great to hear! Yeah the temp sensors suck, but it also doesn't help, that the case is plastic and not metal to help a bit with the heat.

@FlyingFun. 7 ай бұрын

Looking at aliexpress now the prices don't seem any cheaper than know brands from amazon, in fact factor in the chances of import tax etc and it's just not worth it especially for UK anyway.

@jonesymate581 6 ай бұрын

It's the same buying in Australia at the moment. Any price we see on ali expressed automatically incurs 10 percent GST.

@legojenn 4 ай бұрын

Depending on your back up schedule and method, disc drives are probably the most valuable component on a computer because of the data. I wouldn't venture too far away from Samsung and Western Digital. I'd never touch a drive without a DRAM cache. If money is tight, it's better to sacrifice capacity than quality.

@BaileyMagikz 7 ай бұрын

use a cheap bottle of acetone/makeup remover and a wetwipe/cotton pad (the logos/santa will come right off its just ink on a plastic case)

@dyXurChannel 7 ай бұрын

Interesting. Did you try that or do you assume it would work. I have no acetone around atm, but might try with some other chems I have around. A completely unbranded SSD would look nice IMO.

@BaileyMagikz 7 ай бұрын

@@dyXurChannel I have no tried it on these but thats how I remove brands/logos off USB sticks /front of TVs and so on that is black or white plastics (wipe with acetone leave it so soak on the ink then rub hard a few times with some more eventually it comes away)

@MMD157 6 ай бұрын

But the unic problem is chinese SSDs is very used, most in general is the same in low prices.

@Boogie_the_cat 4 ай бұрын

I'm not sure id trust my 500gb of precious cat hone video memories to "random SSD brand #2" I'm fine with cheaping out on all sorts of parts, but when it comes to storage, i pay the premium.

@dyXurChannel 4 ай бұрын

Oh absolutely. With now close to 1k pictures & videos of my own cats I wouldn't do that either. For precious stuff it's best to go with the 321 rule. 3 Copies at 2 locations with 1 off sites.

@danilkurylenko6988 7 ай бұрын

В этих ssd простой контролер без буфера. От этого скорость и падает

@dyXurChannel 7 ай бұрын

Yeah I would be surprised if they had any cache on board

@wertnog6379 11 ай бұрын

Let’s see your h2test results

@dyXurChannel 11 ай бұрын

F3 (which are the values used in the video) is comparable to h2test. Also as far as I know h2test is only for windows, which I don't use.

@olympiaalkisbarmagiann7859 5 ай бұрын

10 dollar ssd is my recommendation

@FilipoLipos 5 ай бұрын

Real deal braker is if the ssd has dram cache

@dyXurChannel 5 ай бұрын

Don't you mean the opposite?

@FilipoLipos 5 ай бұрын

@@dyXurChannel haha i mean if it does not have the dram cache than it is nono for me so yeah the oposite :-D

@Erebus-PCFX 3 ай бұрын

Yeestor based SSD are trash. The Realtek RayMX ones are just slightly above. You should go with SMI and Maxiotek based ones.

@notbuffy Жыл бұрын

Not enough subs ‏‪0:21‬‏

@YaFunklord 5 ай бұрын

Useless test. Read/Write speed tests on SSD don't mean anything since that behaviour changes radically with fragmentation and wear. You should have checked the amount of overprovisioning on each drive which is the only relevant metric for an SSD. And you need to fill and empty the drives around 500-1000 times (depending on the flash type) to get a useful test if you don't know anything about the parts.

@RedSiegfried 7 ай бұрын

Plus, you have the added benefit when you buy them of funding the People's Liberation Army! The people of Vietnam, Taiwan and Tibet thank you for your purchase!

@dyXurChannel 7 ай бұрын

To be fair, most things I see/buy in stores today are "Made in China" as well. It is what it is, but I get the sentiment.

@fungames24 4 ай бұрын

Why doesn't people of america thank him?

@nguyentoan-hd1qd 4 ай бұрын

Don’t do that. China is always a thread to other countries’ sovereignty, including Vietnam, Taiwan, Tibet, Mongolia, West Uyghur. We absolutely won’t thanks you for supporting PLA.

@skankhunt9078 2 ай бұрын

Fuck Vietnam, Tibet. Not Taiwan because I have tsmc shares

@Kokomo733 6 ай бұрын

Acos are TRASH. They fail, I bought a bulk of 20 and at least 10 failed and went completely unusable after a couple of weeks of being in a PC.

@dyXurChannel 6 ай бұрын

That's good to know. Is there a common way that they fail?

@Kokomo733 6 ай бұрын

@@dyXurChannel I did not notice a pattern, they most of the time gave BSOD while using Windows, but it also happened to me to have a few fail at a restart or during the Windows installation.

@fungames24 4 ай бұрын

@@dyXurChannelThey commonly fail from rough finishing at the factory. If you format every bit and surface check them, it will make the drives good. The chinese ssd's I have outlasted the branded junk I bought locally. The chinese drives don't have a kill switch that MS or other companies can activate.

@nightkho137 5 ай бұрын

Dont buy acus its trash just imagine u playing and bom blue screen what happ u lose all ur data

@dyXurChannel 5 ай бұрын

Heavy workloads like gaming are certainly not the best usecase. Mine has been holding up though in regards to constant reads and writes.

@pilotstiles 4 ай бұрын

If I never heard of the brand I would never buy one. I only stay with mainstream brands that have 4+ reviews and are the fastest I can buy.

@Shuttterbugg Ай бұрын

120gb is not even a good scale noone wwnts that even for a os harddrive its too small

@dyXurChannel Ай бұрын

For my use case of getting the last bit of life out of old machines it is enough. A lot of people just don't need much storage (especially when they are also using the cloud). Windows takes like 40 to 60 GiB and a Linux install like 1 to 15 GiB. The last thing people come back to me for is the lack of space tbh.

@bekim137 4 ай бұрын

Dram less ssd are garbage

@fungames24 4 ай бұрын

All my chinese ssd's are dram-less. They play games and do normal pc things fine. Some of them are not so good for copying around large amount of data frequently. The 3d flash ones are fast.

@bekim137 4 ай бұрын

@@fungames24 i had a apacer ssd it has worse than my old hdd

@fungames24 4 ай бұрын

@@bekim137During copy, some of my chinese SSD's are slower than floppy. But, it doesn't matter because most of the time I don't copy anything. The 3d nand ones stay fast. Having fast flash is more important than having dram. Apacer is a taiwanese brand that can't be bought from china.

@giovannigiorgio2262 7 ай бұрын

all trash , best SSD = kingspec and best m2 = goldenfire

@NoBodysGamer 6 ай бұрын

Why are you comparing useless 128gb?? You need to test normal size that people buy these days, at least 1tb but preferably 2

@dyXurChannel 6 ай бұрын

I've seen 128GB plenty in use for variouse usecases. I currently maintain multiple servers that even use just 64GB SSDs as cache drives. Also my main usecase is older laptops that still use HDDs. Those often come with 60GB to 120GB HDDS.

@guser436 5 ай бұрын

@@dyXurChannel I have similar usecase I often end up swapping people's laptop HDDs with a 128gb SSD when they say it is "slow" and they really don't need the storage just basic computer usage and web browsing. I think it's totally fair to compare these 128gb drives I have a feeling they are one of the best selling

@silvy7394 10 ай бұрын

No wonder this channel is dead. No actual testing on what matters. No overview of the controllers or the NAND. No testing long writes. No bootup times. No endurance testing. Reliability. You know, the areas that actually matter and where these cheap drives fall very short compared to SSD's that cost more.

@dyXurChannel 10 ай бұрын

In what way is the channel dead? But I agree I could improve the testing process, but something like endurance/reliability is hard to test. Like I could throw them into my NAS and use a cronjob do fill them up once a day, but this could take months if not even years to get the data.

@silvy7394 10 ай бұрын

@@dyXurChannel All that testing but reliability can be done quickly. Endurance testing is easy. Just get a shity test PC. Then have a program write to the drives 24/7 until they fail. Yeah, might take some time. But thats called quality content.

@dyXurChannel 10 ай бұрын

@@silvy7394 Yeah. To test indurance in that way could be done. Thanks for the help and feedback :). I'll try to get something like that set up.

@Zangetsu_X2 7 ай бұрын

@@silvy7394 uh, how much you gonna pay the man to do all that? why don't you donate big chunk a cash to this channel first?

@Zangetsu_X2 7 ай бұрын

"No testing long writes."