Three Easy Ways to Make Metallics Interesting - Uncle Atom's Pro Tips

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Are your metallic paints boring on your models? I've got three easy ways to make them more interesting.
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@Ducknuck84
@Ducknuck84 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on NMM, While i can appreciate it and the skill needed to do it; it's not really my style as well and in some cases i think its become a bit overplayed in painting circles. another cool basic thing you can add to the list is with your silver metallic mix it with clear,contrast or inks to get a colored metallic
@willcorcoran
@willcorcoran 3 жыл бұрын
I'm no where near good enough a painter to keep pace with the new hotness at any given time. Be interesting to see if NMM is still a thing in 6 or 9 months time.
@andrewamann2821
@andrewamann2821 3 жыл бұрын
@@willcorcoran NMM has been a thing for years, and part of the hobby well over a decade... It'll still be around. The reason that you see it all over KZfaq and Instagram, these days, is because the approaches and theory are understood well enough to be easy to proliferate to the broader community. Ditto for Blanchitsu, oil and enamel washes, makeup brushes for dry brushing, and a plethora of other tools, techniques, styles, and approaches to theory. It's been a kind of interesting thing to watch, honestly.
@M1tZk1
@M1tZk1 3 жыл бұрын
I mean many artist paint minis not to play games with them. If you want to paint an army you go as basic as possible, using techniques that look the best in the least amount of time. I don't want to paint a 1500pts Necrons army with NMM. I might fo a single miniature to stand out and sometimes the cartoonish look is great but it has to fit with the rest of the army as well.
@pinoarias8601
@pinoarias8601 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree, even if NMM takes a lot of skill and looks pretty great when seen from afar, I also much prefer proper real metallic paints.
@Spongemonkey26
@Spongemonkey26 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy NMM and am using it with my current project, but honestly it takes a lot of time to pull off and is the end result so much better than doing TMM or just simple metallic paints? Not sure...
@pedrobastos8132
@pedrobastos8132 3 жыл бұрын
@1:08 Mica is a type of mineral that has this sorta shiny look and is also somewhat easy to break down in small parts. It's also very heat resistant, which allows it to be used in applications such as the windows of ovens. As far as paint goes, they mix very small bits of mica with bog standard acrylic paints in order to give them the shiny, metallic look.
@AmongRocks
@AmongRocks 3 жыл бұрын
As a geologist his mica comment kinda triggered me XD
@pedrobastos8132
@pedrobastos8132 3 жыл бұрын
@@AmongRocks well I suppose it's better than saying that it's a sort of plastic, right?
@EddieGonzalez
@EddieGonzalez 3 жыл бұрын
Additionally, the Vallejo Metal Color line uses aluminum powder instead of mica.
@AmongRocks
@AmongRocks 3 жыл бұрын
@@pedrobastos8132 *Shudders*
@Born_Stellar
@Born_Stellar 3 жыл бұрын
@@EddieGonzalez and I would say these are the best metallics anyways. Mica is in the past!
@rustedbeetle
@rustedbeetle 3 жыл бұрын
Vallejo Metal Colors line use ground aluminum instead of mica. It is a fantastic metal acrylic line.
@christopherharkness5418
@christopherharkness5418 3 жыл бұрын
Contrast over metallics is one of my favourite uses for them, I've mostly done metallic colours so far like red and I'll definitely be trying out that soft brass look you got on your AdMech.
@ScytheNoire
@ScytheNoire 3 жыл бұрын
I think a good silver base, and then using inks, washes, contrasts to add colour is a great method. It also lets you get metallics in colours you could never buy. Just have to use it sparingly. I've went overboard with this. :)
@027shogun
@027shogun 3 жыл бұрын
Uncle Atom with morning coffee, woop! Picked up Reign in Hell, book arrived already. Hoping to get it into the club I play at.
@anotherzingbo
@anotherzingbo 3 жыл бұрын
In addition to NMM and TMM there's also NMF - natural metal finish. This is a name for various techniques used by scale modellers to replicate shiny/reflective metallic finishes found on some aircraft. NMF can be done by applying metal foil onto a model, with certain paints that can be buffed after they have dried, using airbrush specific paints like Alclad (which I think do include actual metal flakes rather than mica) and probably in other ways too. If you have a look online for scale models with NMF finishes you'll see that they can look very impressive - and shiny - indeed.
@JoergH
@JoergH 3 жыл бұрын
I love the metal sounds you laid over. :D I want to hear more of that! ;)
@MatthiasMeys
@MatthiasMeys 3 жыл бұрын
In addition to point 2 - I've recently started applying highlights AFTER varnishing to further increase the highlight. Great vid as ever, unkie attom!
@Flight_of_Icarus
@Flight_of_Icarus 3 жыл бұрын
A while ago I asked a confusingly worded question about cloths and metals that are the same color, but different textures. You actually answered my question here 3:59. So you mean that if I wanted a dark green metal, I'd take a metallic paint, probably silver, and then put on Dark Angels Green overtop
@sebastianwei7721
@sebastianwei7721 3 жыл бұрын
My copy of Reign in Hell arrived yesterday! Looking great!
@MichaelKloepfer68
@MichaelKloepfer68 3 жыл бұрын
Micah is a rock and it's a really cool rock if you can find it because it chips apart in smooth layers and you can actually see through it when you get it thinner enough it kind of looks like rock candy but it breaks apart in sheets
@rduke32
@rduke32 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I have been really struggling with NMM, feeling like I needed to do it to because it seems like the thing to do. I just tried your wash and contrast method, actually used both and I love the result! Thanks!
@DarkRaven4649
@DarkRaven4649 3 жыл бұрын
Washing and glazing metals is so much better than NMM tbh. Like, not just from a time saved perspective - I just think it looks better. NMM has a tendency to make the models look real cartoony - even when it's done very well. Not strictly a bad thing, just not my aesthetic.
@theragingdolphinsmaniac4696
@theragingdolphinsmaniac4696 3 жыл бұрын
Some paints like silvers, gunmetals, etc are made with aluminum powder. Sometimes they are made with mica if the acrylic base can react with the metal pigment causing it to corrode. A classic example is gold which often uses ground brass which reacts with the acrylic base causing the paint to go bad and turn green.
@sleepydruid100
@sleepydruid100 3 жыл бұрын
I used Cryptek Armorshade Gloss (i believe) on my Necrons to make the Runelord brass and silvery parts look rusty and it worked wonders. Currenlty practise drybrushing.^^
@seankavanagh3742
@seankavanagh3742 3 жыл бұрын
I live and breathe metallics in my painting as they are my favourite visual effect so this was all very valuable sir thank you kindly
@chrismcfadden7439
@chrismcfadden7439 3 жыл бұрын
One trick that I like is mixing a solid colour like brown with gold, or grey with silver as a base coat and work up highlights from there. I saw it in a WD tutorial on the Space Hulk SGT and it works really well!
@bldos5362
@bldos5362 3 жыл бұрын
Just if you were curious. Mica is a type of mineral. It's also in make-up and other glittering products like our paints.
@elleofmusic
@elleofmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Contrast over TMM is so dang good! I haven't needed to get any gold or brass paint thanks to Skeleton Horde and Guilliman Flesh, and if you thin out the lighter shades like Aethermatic Blue, they work great for Earth/Sky reflection techniques! Another thing I've found works great is to paint NMM… but with TMM paint. For instance I have Vallejo Metal Color Magnesium, which is dark, and Pale Burnt Metal (I love the way those two are slightly tinted already) which is light, and I'll use them both as shadows and highlights respectively, which gives a really excellent sense of depth to armor, and for blades it helps to paint the flat part dark and then the sharp edge light, and for chainmail you can paint it all dark first, then do a drybrush of the light metal color to really emphasize the 3-dimensionality. Metal that has a lot of engravings and/or sculpted nicks benefits a lot from this style as well. So much fun~!
@cordial001
@cordial001 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to be everywhere these days (and this might be a bit of a hot take), but I don't really like non-metallic metal. IMO, there's not really all that many people who can make it look really good. It does look great when it's done well, don't get me wrong, but for the effort invested:outcome ratio, I far and away prefer true metallic paints tints, washes, contrast and all that.
@cordial001
@cordial001 3 жыл бұрын
@Tapio Piuva Art I didn't say what I mean very well :) Mostly it's the style of NMM I don't dig if that makes sense. Even when it's executed really well, it's still something that usually doesn't wow me, even if I can appreciate the skill and time that went into it. I really do respect the people that devote the time to mastering the technique, but it's just not my thing.
@willcorcoran
@willcorcoran 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, even some of the online painting 'names' have been pumping out some canary-looking Stormcasts lately.
@jeffreycrowder2866
@jeffreycrowder2866 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video Would love to see some Reign in Hell battle report? Any possibility?
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions 3 жыл бұрын
Eventually I’ll be able to do some. Working on painting up some good cabals now, actually. However, there have been several good battle reports put out there already. Go check the @snarlingbadgers Twitter account for links to batreps. Thanks watching!
@johnashley-smith4987
@johnashley-smith4987 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic. I used too paint a lot of watercolour paintings and regularly painted " NMM" with those paints, but it never occurred to me to paint a 3D object that way. Why bother when you have metallic paint? I can see the challenge, but outside of a display peice for perhaps a shadow box, it's a technique that someone who's just trying to get an army together to play games with, doesn't need to worry about. Your advice about washes and glazes and inks are spot on. I have yet to try any of the contrast paints so I can't comment on those. Thanks for the video!
@BattlebrotherPhil
@BattlebrotherPhil 2 жыл бұрын
Haha amazing, I love it when you clang your metallic hands against each other :D Very true what you said about washes. I recently experimented with some more unusual colours: I slapped a purple wash over some Ironbreaker metallic paint and I gotta say it looks awesome and more interesting. Also, this purplish metallic colour happened to go very well with the mostly pink paintjob of the rest of the miniatures. I would say going crazy with weird washes is definately worth a shot! :) Anyways, great video as usual Uncle Atom! :)
@MrLigonater
@MrLigonater 3 жыл бұрын
Contrast over metallic bases are super fun!
@timothyyoung2962
@timothyyoung2962 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased some Robbed Cyborg minis from Ramshackle Games to use in Stargrave and This Is Not A Test. I want to make them look worn and rusted. I don't want them to look like your typical machine men, so I'll be using your tutorial on how you painted up your Necrons as well as suggestions from this video. Hoping to give them a nice look of dilapidation to make them stand out.
@StormcastMarine
@StormcastMarine 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine an entourage to polish your sword every night. 2:58
@alankelly1001
@alankelly1001 3 жыл бұрын
For painting gold on my GW minis, I use (admittedly, very old GW paints) Shining Gold (early 2000s) with Mithral Silver (mid 1990s) highlights, then a layer of Yellow Ink (remember when GW used to have inks in their paint line? I snapped up a bunch at a local hobby shop when they were discontinued). The yellow ink is the key to giving it a nice golden shine while bringing the gold and silver paints together. It also helps if you can find photo references for polished gold bars (or can see some in person... I used to work for a bank).
@gabe9346
@gabe9346 3 жыл бұрын
Very down to earth, helpful tips!
@tripod222
@tripod222 3 жыл бұрын
I don't care what your intro says. You will always be my uncle of choice!
@Stevie28
@Stevie28 3 жыл бұрын
Similar to contrast paints Inks work really great too. I use Vallejo Game Ink Skin all the time.
@AndICanTalk2
@AndICanTalk2 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Ty vm
@casanovafunkenstein5090
@casanovafunkenstein5090 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I had an entourage to polish my sword each night 😏
@TheCimbrianBull
@TheCimbrianBull 3 жыл бұрын
LOL 😂🤣😅
@twitch1965
@twitch1965 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, even with Uncle Adam's baritone, it still sounded dirty -in a good way ;)
@Catterjee
@Catterjee 3 жыл бұрын
I half-expected Penny from Midwinter Minis to chime in with "Hey now!"
@markgnepper5636
@markgnepper5636 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
@shadedreaver
@shadedreaver 3 жыл бұрын
Metalics also good for lenses on helmets or glowy eyes
@ddis29
@ddis29 3 жыл бұрын
love the plug :)
@Subcomandante73
@Subcomandante73 3 жыл бұрын
Gryph-Hound Orange (GW contrast) over silver gives a nice copper colour.
@Boodoosh69
@Boodoosh69 2 жыл бұрын
Some good stuff here Uncle A, going to have to try a few :) NMM is way too fiddly for an effect I dont much like either. Thanks :)
@ErrantPainting
@ErrantPainting 3 жыл бұрын
I like to use Secret weapons "Sewer water" over Nurgle metalics :) Great video, as usual :)
@biffglotzt2327
@biffglotzt2327 3 жыл бұрын
yeah awesome sound effects:)
@barryslemmings31
@barryslemmings31 3 жыл бұрын
Mica is a mineral. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mica Wiki says it is used in paints and also in cosmetics to add 'shimmer' or 'frost'. Wiki says it is even used in some toothpastes. Barry
@stuffandnonsense8528
@stuffandnonsense8528 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you. NMM has never been my thing, it always seems like something meant for a display piece which is viewed from only one angle. I know its not, but it just doesn't feel quite right to me.
@maulcrusader7106
@maulcrusader7106 3 жыл бұрын
Which metallics did you use for that Stormcast leader? I love the look!
@edwardclay7551
@edwardclay7551 3 жыл бұрын
Great plug in to Reign in Hell. Should we email you @SnarlingBadger with any questions about the ruleset?
@krzysiekbazyl6702
@krzysiekbazyl6702 3 жыл бұрын
A cool and easy way to alter your metalics color is to add drops of ink as it changes the color but does not reduce the shine.
@TheEr910
@TheEr910 3 жыл бұрын
I like using Seraphim Sepia to make silver grudgy. Also, flesh wash looks good over gold.
@CourtneyVarner
@CourtneyVarner 3 жыл бұрын
whoa whoa whoa Uncle Atom isn't an actual Uncle???? I have been lied to.
@_amosdean
@_amosdean 3 жыл бұрын
I've gone so far as to just mix contrast with metallic paint before putting it on the model for some great results. Silver or Gold with Wyldwood Contrast looks great!
@tripod222
@tripod222 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Depending on the metal color used, inks can also be fantastic.
@JDSG360
@JDSG360 3 жыл бұрын
I’m painting up a necron lord using contrast ork flesh over silver. Looks fine but I’m not sure how to give it depth. I’m not sure what highlight colour I should use since I don’t have a true green metallic paint
@TheBuefurd
@TheBuefurd 3 жыл бұрын
This video is metal AF
@U2QuoZepplin
@U2QuoZepplin 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a NMM fan either Adam. It's supposed to be easier than painting metals by the conventional technique , or so I hear but I've been using the standard process for years so I'm good with that . NMM is a process I might try one day but it's not a priority. Getting myself a "PACHOW," Teeshirt is though!
@carletonification
@carletonification 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know if it's mica that's actually in the paints or not. But, mica is a mineral. 8*D
@HO-bndk
@HO-bndk 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually alumin[i]um powder. All metallic paints start off as a silvery colour and pigments are added to make it bronze, copper or whatever.
@RedHandedDaniel
@RedHandedDaniel 3 жыл бұрын
@@HO-bndk Citadel and Vallejo model/game lines use Mica. Vallejo Metal Color uses Aluminum. depends on the brand.
@JHB141
@JHB141 3 жыл бұрын
OMG, the hand to hand clanks made me COMPLETELY lose it! ROFLMAO!!! So well played, Sir!
@KrisTomich
@KrisTomich 3 жыл бұрын
How do washes work with sauce-bossing?
@Kevin.Mitchell
@Kevin.Mitchell 3 жыл бұрын
Uncle Atom's Magic Metal Hands
@billronan2868
@billronan2868 3 жыл бұрын
Do you still play Flames of war? If so could you do more stuff on it please.
@BlizzAz
@BlizzAz 3 жыл бұрын
A plethora of Pa-chow in this one...
@skulltakertheflamingswordo5792
@skulltakertheflamingswordo5792 3 жыл бұрын
Ryza Rust is another really good paint to show corrosion.
@hppydwnbythrvr
@hppydwnbythrvr 3 жыл бұрын
Mica is an extremely common non toxic mineral.
@Grovesrussell
@Grovesrussell 3 жыл бұрын
An entire entourage to polish my sword every night 🤣 yes please, sign me up
@UnderMyThumb
@UnderMyThumb 3 жыл бұрын
Great tips. I agree, tmm has a great look to it.
@stormycatmink
@stormycatmink 3 жыл бұрын
Have you considered real true metal? Like laying thing metal on the metal parts? I've done that a bit. It's not as bad as you might think. It's done fairly often in automotive models.
@kalisthenes6650
@kalisthenes6650 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Is this done with electro plating? I remember back in the day some plastic kits had chrome over plastic parts, but truthfully I don’t know how that was done.
@stormycatmink
@stormycatmink 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalisthenes6650 Actually, very thin self-adhesive foil. It's a bit fiddly, but not as hard as one might think. Gilding with metal leaf is also an option, but harder to get that polished mirror look. The foil is thick enough you can get it nice and shiny.
@Farmers-Almanac
@Farmers-Almanac 3 жыл бұрын
interesting
@DeliciousCornbread
@DeliciousCornbread 3 жыл бұрын
metallic
@akaken23
@akaken23 3 жыл бұрын
Easy.
@RyanJinxedCoffee
@RyanJinxedCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Indubitably.
@Mikey__R
@Mikey__R 3 жыл бұрын
Who knew Uncle Atoms hands were made of steel? Though, if you're going to be smashing atoms, steel hands are probably useful.
@j453
@j453 3 жыл бұрын
Did you get a new Mic?
@forevergimmly7343
@forevergimmly7343 3 жыл бұрын
For metalics I used different tactics First I was priming metallic silver and then shade with army painter until I as happy with the result layer after layer.... Now I simply use metalics from greenstuff world (yeah a shitty company, bot no bit worse then gw) Only their red I feel like using bloodletter glaze to make it really red mettalic... Soon I will have to make my own red glaze
@constantinepeterson6874
@constantinepeterson6874 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to have a whole entourage to polish my sword every night
@kellyaudia
@kellyaudia 3 жыл бұрын
Heyoooo
@sonoftherabbitpeople4737
@sonoftherabbitpeople4737 3 жыл бұрын
Mica is a mineral.
@amon-crow4414
@amon-crow4414 3 ай бұрын
Mica is a mineral
@charleyedwards2121
@charleyedwards2121 3 жыл бұрын
Where your Mica actually comes from kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ecqpZJBnzMW2c5c.html tl;dr use metallic paints that use aluminum powder instead.
@ddis29
@ddis29 3 жыл бұрын
say you got this shield, and it's a boss bitch...
@idiotluggage
@idiotluggage 3 жыл бұрын
I'm confused, Uncle Adam is not my uncle?
@Born_Stellar
@Born_Stellar 3 жыл бұрын
pro tip: by saying NMM isn't your style you can justify being unable to do it
@tabletopminions
@tabletopminions 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never really attempted it, but I’m sure I’d be no good at it at first. Over time, I’m sure I could learn to do NMM to some degree, but I’d rather spend my time doing something else. I’ve never seen a NMM result that made me want to learn it, so why would I bother? Thanks for watching.
@U2QuoZepplin
@U2QuoZepplin 3 жыл бұрын
Most of this stuff is rookie stuff to me, thanks. I've been in the hobby long enough and painting models badly to know most of these processes and procedures . This is all a good reminder and motivator to get back out there behind my paint station and even try out that coctail stick trick (I'm a stiff ass Brit from The UK so I'm not so familiar with the american term. In fact I don't think I even knew that they're not called "coctail sticks," in the good ol US of A. So if I've taken nothing from this episode , at least I've been educated in as much as that
@TheRagnartheBold
@TheRagnartheBold 3 жыл бұрын
*clinc* for emphesis
@U2QuoZepplin
@U2QuoZepplin 3 жыл бұрын
"Moist."
@TheCimbrianBull
@TheCimbrianBull 3 жыл бұрын
Moist!
@Lady_Numiria
@Lady_Numiria 3 жыл бұрын
Is this video a proof that Uncle Atom has been replaced by an android?
@Anecron1
@Anecron1 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Uncle A, I love your vids, but couldn't the first 75% of this vid be summerized by; Just paint metallics exactly the same way as normal paint? Basecoat - Shade - Highlight - Details? =)
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