Three 'Ranger-alikes' - Two Hits and One Miss!

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Well, you can't win them all, can you? The Proxima feels like it comes from a class below the San Martin, despite their identical price tags, just not as good in every single way. But for $100ish, the Pagani more than holds its own visually. And that is kind of the point, isn't it? To look amazing for not a lot of money. Cheers, Jody

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@TheFlan80 Жыл бұрын

Finish work, come home, relax and watch Jody chat about some watches. Perfect

@JustOneMoreWatch Жыл бұрын

Ahhh, thanks Flan. Get yourself a beer or herbal tea as appropriate.

@Olddirtytiger Жыл бұрын

In uk timezone Jody acts as my wake up call 😁

@spavliskojr Жыл бұрын

pretty much my day

@scottatkinson4937 Жыл бұрын

Top review as always. I picked up the Pagani in the 11-11 sale and have been quite happy, plus the low cost let me pick up a few different pieces over January. Good work Jody. 👍⌚️

@HuyPham-io4vu Жыл бұрын

I got the San Martin, loved it! I might get the white dial on as well. This one truly disappears on the wrist. Thanks for the comparison video Jody.

@Cichlid_Visuals Жыл бұрын

i love the tophat crystal on the pagani, absolute steal for that especially if that claimed 200m resistance holds up.

@MelvinHughesatp Жыл бұрын

At this stage of my life, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be able to comfortably spring for a Tudor Black Bay, 39mm Pelagos, or a Ranger. But I do love the Black Bay/Pelagos and Ranger dials and handsets. Enough so that just last night, before I saw your video, I ordered a San Martin SN0107. As I type this, I'm wearing my NTH Barracuda which is about as nice a Black Bay homage as anyone is making. I don't doubt the value of the OG. If I were younger and had never owned a Rolex, Omega, or Tudor, I would be hoarding my pennies for all three of my favorite Tudors! But will a San Martin with a Seiko drive and a NTH with a Miyota work well for me? Yep... What fun! Thanks again, Jody. Always a pleasure to get your take.

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@longden57 Жыл бұрын

I received the Pagani as a gift recently and I put it straight onto a nice suede dark leather strap and I absolutely love it! It looks fantastic. I also love the smaller size. The NH35 is also running well at about minus 1-2 seconds per day.

@nakazatotakeshi4286 Жыл бұрын

Hearing Jody says "a bit mid" unironically is the best thing I've heard today.

@JustOneMoreWatch Жыл бұрын

Well, you know, I'm sure there are people watching who will understand it, even though I'm not one of them.

@TheJaime9526 Жыл бұрын

I don’t always think of the differences as ‘not getting it right’ so much as *sometimes* the things that prevent them being a straight clone watch. Sometimes those things work for the watch in hand, rather than the one it is homaging.

@thewatchfemme4051 Жыл бұрын

I have the San Martin 1016 homage, and it is in contention for my favorite watch. If I was more drawn to the Tudor ranger I’d definitely go the San Martin route. Thanks for the fun comparison Jody!

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@Razor_Burn Жыл бұрын

You know the video is going to be good when its a Head-to-Head-to-Head! Cheers Jody 👍

@statlerwaldorf7130 Жыл бұрын

Great review Jody, I am very lucky, I got the Tudor Ranger on launch and have to say it is brilliant, very understated, accurate and great value for money for the specs.

@JustOneMoreWatch Жыл бұрын

Yeah I am not sure why more people don't love it?! Less than half price Explorer in a better size 🤷

@FRST2012 Жыл бұрын

The two San Martins tried (explorer/bb36) have really impressed me for their quality. I agree with you point on cost vs the real deal, especially if you end up buying more than a few homages. I recently spent not so much on a 36mm Tisell and it’s a great little watch which looks great, but I did it with the knowledge that I don’t think I would ever spend £7k+ on a Rolex Explorer.

@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Жыл бұрын

Great comparison review Jody. I haven't tried out the San Martin or Proxima, but I do have the Pagani Design. The best part about it for me is that lovely deep black dial. Yes the build quality and lume aren't on par with San Martin, but you don't expect it to be for the price. If San Martin added a dial like the Pagani Design one, then I think it would be even better.

@sinesaii Жыл бұрын

I am not a fan of the ranger, but I do like non-vintage Explorer homages. Who makes the best one in your opinion? I have been keen on the Cronos. Also, keep up the good work with your channel.

@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Жыл бұрын

@@sinesaii I've actually done a comparison video between a few on my channel. The Matic, San Martin and Bliger versions. Thanks 👍

@johnmonachelli5256 Жыл бұрын

One of the more lucid observations on KZfaq

@yankeexpress Жыл бұрын

I got the Dryden Ranger homage because it came out first, has a smooth highbeat Miyota 9xxx movement and has great quality finishing.

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@WATCHingJames Жыл бұрын

Great seeing these side by side. Thanks Jody

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@RedwoodAggie Жыл бұрын

Huge thanks for taking a look at these 3 Ranger alternatives. I'm sure this will help many an enthusiast on a budget. It's funny how much of the Ranger experience San Martin delivers at a tiny percent of the price. They got the size right, and even offer white lume (my choice). I don't care for the shade of lume used on the Ranger, so this one is quite tempting. No T-Fit clasp of course, but the one there does look nice all things considered. I would stick with the 38.5mm version, but some people were clamoring for a 36mm Ranger. San Martin really is giving people what they want.

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@pktsqr Жыл бұрын

Picked up the San Martin a while back, and while I guess I'm not as proud of it as if I'd put away $2.7K for the real deal, it still makes me quite happy when I wear it. The finishing is so neat, and it wears great. Having seen a couple of vs vids at this point, I think that's just the way to go.

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@AwkwardHorology Жыл бұрын

I bought the San Martin Tudor pro homage before Xmas and I have to say top notch! May pick this one up too 🎉

@kabdu68 Жыл бұрын

Great review, Jody. I was thinking “that Pagani would look great on a leather strap” just as I watched you say it!

@user-wr9fv7zm9n Жыл бұрын

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@thetattedpharmacist3215 7 ай бұрын

Just received my PD Ranger. Cost me $97AU delivered in 6 days. For a watch that will go into the collection for occasional wear, perfect little fun homage. I personally won’t wear it enough to stump up for the San Martin on this occasion, mainly because my one San Martin I do own, I do wear regularly and that’s the 50’s submariner homage the so-called “water-ghost” which is a bloody fantastic watch!

@JasonTheWatchGuy Жыл бұрын

I reviewed the Pagani and enjoyed it but there are definitely some refinements that they need to make. However, for the price it is a winner. Would love to see the San Martin, always quality watches

@JeepSec Жыл бұрын

I have the San Martin, bought it on the 11/11 sale last year, and it's one of my favorite watches.

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@lanky-x782 Жыл бұрын

Weird timing. I just ordered a Pagani Design PD-1751 last night. The plan is to put it on a vario leather strap. Not really a fan of bracelets. Been thinking of modding it with a green second hand. Will wait a see if it's worth it after I see it in person. Thank you Jody for the review.

@PheasantPluckersMate Жыл бұрын

A hole-in-one again, Jody. Great content and a fun comparison. Cheers!

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@darrenaquilina1403 Жыл бұрын

The San Martin is really finished well. So tempting, and i’m not an homage lover. Looks great!

@paulbagguley3670 Жыл бұрын

Great Comparison Jody ... My Brother in Law turned up the other week with a Genuine Tudor Ranger. He waited 3 months to collect it then took it back the next day as the hands were catching ... so back to Tudor it went ! I like the Pagani and for the money would go for that !!!!!!!!!

@ghostofzuul Жыл бұрын

got a pagani air king for xmas.... surprised at how nice it is! i looked at the ranger but liked the air king better! cheers jody!

@georgemole9790 Жыл бұрын

Great review, Jody, as usual. Can we look forward to you reviewing one or more Long Island Watch Islanders at some point? I've got a few of those now, and although they are not as cheap as the AliExpress specials, they offer good quality and good prices. Hope to hear your take on the brand one of these days.

@hrs.ai2018 Жыл бұрын

I like how Jody describe proxima as an 'unfinished' one, it looks exactly missing something, more/less like mvnt

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@SmurfPerfect Жыл бұрын

I have the San Martin and the PD, agree completely with your assessment! The dial on the Pagani is exceptional but the case thickness ruins the overall proportions, esp at only 36mm in diameter.

@stephenremington8448 Жыл бұрын

For my Pagani i've never given the thickness a thought. Some years back I did sell my 1963 chrono because of the height, but never felt it on the Pagani.

@tomcat561 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jody, I got a San Martin on the way now thanks to you!

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@Keeperofthekey13 Жыл бұрын

I love the comparison videos & have a lot of respect for both San Martin & Pagani Design. If San Martin gave an alternative for movement choice (say a Miyota 90 series at a slightly higher price) I"d be truly tempted as i'm impressed by the quality for money offered. That said, I would still save for the Ranger if I were inclined to want one. In my opinion, for the money asked, I don't like that the dial has printed indices instead of applied. If it did.... I'd save & buy one. I love Tudor as a brand.

@kobusvanrensburg4092 Жыл бұрын

Agree 100% Instead of the PT5000, give us a 9000 series.

@Argassin Жыл бұрын

Jody, I wonder if for those (like me) that were unable to get their hands on the bracelet version of the BB58, the bracelet of your SM Ranger would fit🤔? Great content as always mate!

@darrenjones2070 Жыл бұрын

Great video loved this one. Love the comparisons. 👏

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@mrkitewine7700 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jody, do those with the NH35 have a ghost date crown position?

@onlythewatchhead Жыл бұрын

Nice looking homage pieces. If I were to purchase one, I might opt for a sterile dial.

@brianmsahin Жыл бұрын

Excellent review Jody. I'm not crazy about the Ranger so not enamoured with the homages either and they're all too small for me anyway.

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@georgemole9790 Жыл бұрын

How does this San Martin Tudor Ranger homage compare to the San Martin "Explore Climbing" Explorer homage (SN020-G) you've reviewed very favorably on previous occasions? They have a very similar look from what I can see in the photos, although the sizes are a little different.

@Leventgursoy11 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations Jody ! Excellent video. I've never bought fake watches however if have to buy 3 of them, I would buy Pagani...

@the_9ent Жыл бұрын

That LoTR meme, Jody 🤣 dying

@S-Ltd1000 Жыл бұрын

I agree with the bracelet quality compared to similarly priced Orients, Seikos etc. However, I have a couple of San Martins and whilst they are great watches I'm kind of tiring of the homage thing. I just picked up a new orient triton and get a lot more out of the watch despite the inferior bracelet.

@johnbuckmaster569 Жыл бұрын

2 San Marten’s Presently in my collection. I’ve own watches from all the AliExpress brands, And SM Never disappoints.

@matthewbessey681 Жыл бұрын

I do find myself eyeing up the pagani regularly! Maybe in the next sales !

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@maxfaberg128 Жыл бұрын

The Proxima is homaging an Oysterdate Ranger vintage Tudor. I'd add a cyclops to the date variant. I like that vintage Tudor Oysterdate.

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@karlsenula9495 Жыл бұрын

So the San Martin still comes in the old 'oil can' packaging as opposed to the new smaller leatherette travel packaging?

@adamdorney5143 Жыл бұрын

been waiting for this comparison video

@JustOneMoreWatch Жыл бұрын

Adam! Clearly, as yours is the third comment mate!

@AlexanderB. Жыл бұрын

Both companies, Proxima and Pagani have used off-she-shelf cases to work their existing models into Ranger homages, unlike San Martin who have not. This explains the size differences als well as the use of oysterish cases and polished bezels which look totally off to me.

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@watchalot919 Жыл бұрын

Recently purchased and reviewed my first Proxima. It is loosely based on a Chris Ward C65, and it is excellent. I actually like the fact Proxima hasn't directly homaged the Ranger, and it has the best movement. I am not a fan of the Proxima font, and I hate the unicorn when used. As usual the San Martin is excellent, but quite expensive considering it has the NH35 in it.Of course, the Pagani is the best value for money, but they always let themselves down with something

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@deinhorn2 Жыл бұрын

Jody, I own about 100 or so watches and 1 Pagani, this one.. Honestly I’m the guy that won’t buy any watch with the Pagani name on it. but bought this one during the sale for like $80US. Simply too cheap to pass up and it looked great. Love the dial. With that said, amazing watch at the price.. (and thankfully only a logo dial) LOL

@martin4374 Жыл бұрын

Should get one for my niece. She loves unicorns! 🎶My horn can pierce the sky 🎵

@MyRetroWatches Жыл бұрын

SM have now made one with applied indices. They have sent me one in. Looks nice. I have their other version and really like it but I do feel the faux patina is a bit to faux and looks off. Great comparison video pal.

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@adk7962 Жыл бұрын

“Official animal of 6 year old girls around the world.” Pure awesomeness. Yes. Proxima missed the mark on this one. Although their PX1697 (CW Homage) is next on my unnecessarily long list of watches I want to buy.

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@HALO-2304 Жыл бұрын

The unicorn logo kind of reminds me of U.N. Squadron, a game I loved playing on the Super Nintendo back in the day.

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@mercster Жыл бұрын

Nice reverse action while looking at the San Martin bracelet! 😏 Thanks Jody! Why are my listed prices always so much higher on Ali Express (I'm in the states...)

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@tablameister Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the excellent comparison video. San Martin tends to receive a lot of accolades from watch reviewers and they definitely seem to be positioning themselves at the higher end of the homage manufacturers. I don't own one yet, but I expect I'll get a San Martin this year, especially since I already own several Pagani Design homages.

@swilkobarfingtoniii1642 Жыл бұрын

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@claytonberg721 Жыл бұрын

That dial on the pagani is great, too bad the lume wasn't a bit better. Maybe get out the tools and put the pagani dial and movement into the san martin?

@kmpaton Жыл бұрын

The T-fit clasp is the most significant thing missing from these, which is one of the Ranger's biggest pros. Otherwise, they look very well done.

@franciscomoliner1296 Жыл бұрын

Hi Jody, how about a mix? S.M. case, bracelet and price, PT5000 movement and Pagani's dial. There you have it! Regards

@tonysolino3131 Жыл бұрын

Lovely video Jody. Actually, I liked all three. Plus my nieces like unicorns.

@aronchas 10 ай бұрын

picked up the PD for the price and could not be happier, I could not justify your san martin horse😂

@hattyfarbuckle Жыл бұрын

Tudor Ranger was not even on my radar [forgive me Father Jody] and looking at it I'm reminded of the Panerai Radiomir dial [... forgive me again Father for lusting] .. the problem is the same if you add zeros to the price - is the Panerai [with screw in lug locks ... save me Father] worth almost 3x the price of the Tudor ?

@phillipgatelein8591 Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed this Jody

@johnseeger9083 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, mate. Great review. I’ll stick with my Vaer.

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@Icarianbrother 3 ай бұрын

I bought the Pagani Design PD1751. I want to replace the clasp. Do you know what size it is?

@WristWatching Жыл бұрын

If San Martin used the deep black dial from the Pagani, it’ll be the perfect Ranger homage for me. Great comparison!

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@briangeorge7965 Жыл бұрын

Cheers Jody. Yet another great video.

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@saurus738 Жыл бұрын

When you open the caseback, sometime the disappointment starts there with homages. Most of them you will see the cheap plastic ring inside that holds the movement.

@talhakonjic3197 Жыл бұрын

Jody trying to leave the boomer zone saying "mid" lol love it

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@emberkedves6330 5 ай бұрын

Outstanding video!

@ThiHambrook 9 күн бұрын

Thank you 👍 San Martin

@theprivateer5570 Жыл бұрын

Does SM still offer customized dials for some of its watches?

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@villagranvicent 5 ай бұрын

I totally agree that I rather save and get a real Tudor Ranger than spend 300 bucks on a clonage and regret it later. The Pagani for a hundred can do the trick.

@gorillasinthewrist Жыл бұрын

The San Martin is what we’ve come to expect, the font on the proxima dial is clearly aimed at the 6 year old market, but not for me, an unmatched date window? I like the PD, particularly the gloss black dial.

@JP-ly7yp Жыл бұрын

Love the Unicorn!

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@Michael-4 Жыл бұрын

Very nice, although I'd still prefer the Smiths 36mm Explorer.

@levi9385 Жыл бұрын

I would like for SM to have a white dial option.

@TheWatchChannelAU Жыл бұрын

I agree, I did a video on the Pagani Ranger & it's a great watch for the low price ...I mean ...just over $100 inc delivery....how is that even possible?

@karlsenula9495 Жыл бұрын

Yeah the Black Bay Pro homage is definitely the one that had gotten me chuffed.

@sinesaii Жыл бұрын

I wish Jody reviewed more Proxima watches, specifically the Marine Master-style (SBDX something or another). I am interested, and want to know his views.

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@hufftalbot9296 Жыл бұрын

It would have been nice to see them on the time grapher. I am a bit old fashioned, I think accuracy is quite important in a mechanical watch.

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@Mr_Memer.876 Жыл бұрын

I got the 36mm SM version, absolutely stunning quality. I do wish they had used a more inky black dial, but that's just me. For me it's the best AliExpress watch I've owned... And I've owned quite a few... 🤣😅😅😅

@JustOneMoreWatch Жыл бұрын

I also have the 36mm and I'm keeping it! Brings something different to the table in terms of sizing.

@Mr_Memer.876 Жыл бұрын

@@JustOneMoreWatch I'm not sure I can justify keeping mine as I have the new 36mm Christopher Ward C63 Sealander in my collection... But it is sufficiently different to have avoided recent culls! 😅

@murph8411 Жыл бұрын

San Martin should really give us a high beat movement if they insist on charging slightly higher prices. A miyota 9000 series would be nice but even a pt5000 if they could up their qc on their internals.

@davidsherrick898 Жыл бұрын

My Pagani actually cut me because the bracelet was so sharp. Just save up for the San Martin or go Swiss Tissot. As a beater watch yes. Works fine. Great review as always!

@davidsherrick898 Жыл бұрын

@@Ktrb Still love mine, the Tissot Le loche automatic for $300. And I bought my first San Martin, for $250 and I actually got a good one, but I bought it on the big sale. but there is nothing like a Swiss made watch. I bought several AliExpress watches, you get what you pay for. Cheap prices and the quality is good for what you pay for. But just good. Nothing great yet. But all my friends know I'm the "watch guy" as they don't even have a watch! I really thought the San Martin was really going to "wow" me but I feel disappointed? As I save my R...x Submariner for the best days. Thanks for the reply!

@jananilcolonoscopu4034 Жыл бұрын

Save a hundred quid and use a 20p piece of sandpaper to take the sharp edges off. Simples.

@alfieakaronaldog Жыл бұрын

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@@alfieakaronaldog what do you think professionals use to smooth corners off watch bracelets? Harsh language?

@alfieakaronaldog Жыл бұрын

@@jananilcolonoscopu4034 The day I have to sand a sharp corner off a watch bracelet, is the day I get an Apple Watch ⌚️

@hillbillyartscrafts4367 Жыл бұрын

i really like that Pagani Design especially for that price! hell i might just buy one i already bought their speedmaster

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@davepoole5582 Жыл бұрын

Ace show Jody... I have no complaints about my Pagani. But yes the lume isn't as good.

@MrWansty Жыл бұрын

has anyone else noticed when jody shows close ups of the san martin it seems to be speeded up to make the second hand look like its sweeping smoothly ,unlike the close ups of the other two?

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@Horology_Report Жыл бұрын

How did you overlook the atrocious lume matching on the San Martin? It completely destroys the watch for me.

@markgoggins246 Жыл бұрын

Tudor is a nice watch but i would buy the black bay but i like the look of the san martin

@larx4074 Жыл бұрын

Luuuurve the "Ranger" style, but I'm waiting for the re-release of the Islander/TGV version....................

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@acadamenorth Жыл бұрын

Ok so should I buy the San Martin SN0054 right now or save up 200 more to get the RZE endeavour? Both seem to have super similar looks..i know the san martin movement is inferior

@MrLiveWest Жыл бұрын

Jody, what sub style black dial watch are you getting in 2023? Theirs so many!!! What the best bang for buck and bifl?

@SingleTrackMined Жыл бұрын

I'm getting the idea Pagani Design has improved their watches lately. For me, the PD with a leather strap would be beautiful. And cheap. /not Scottish but I understand

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@reesebroekhoven3962 Жыл бұрын

A head to head to head geeez that alot of head for one episode

@bunaldiaries6418 Жыл бұрын

As always, the San Martin gets the Jody seal of approval. They're definitely one of the more affordable homage watches right now besides the Pagani. The Proxima, it's my first time hearing it and it's kinda nice albeit the dial finish. Overall, nice review once more Jody! PS: San Martin and Pagani Design all the way!

@olivierdumais6463 Жыл бұрын

The other two companies made theirs smaller because everytime they post their prototypes on reddit, they're absolutely assaulted with comment from tiny men asking them to make every watch 36mm and even smaller. There's a sizeable contingent of of size queens in watch groups that are convinced that because they have tiny wrists and because they wish watch fashion and sizing hadn't changed since the 1960, the watch industry should cater to them specifically. Unfortunately, chinese watch makers have started believing them and have forgotten that most men do in fact have 7 plus inch wrists and that, in line with today's fashion, the sweet spot size for this type of watch is 39mm or 40mm...

@johnmonachelli5256 Жыл бұрын

I'm trying but I can't seem to warm up to the ranger beautifully made no doubt

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@joelhenderson4450 Жыл бұрын

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@sinjinadams2862 Жыл бұрын

The common theme in most of these video's is San Martin is the best made watch and Pagani Design is the best value watch. It seems to run true no matter who you compare them to. Definitely two of the best brands on AliExpress.

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