Suzanne Ten what does your horse do on the longe line when you ask for canter?

Look up Warwick Schiller. He has free KZfaq videos on horse training, especially difficult horses like yours. His lessons were a godsend for me, hope they can help you too!

I had what is said as untespeccull bebaviour cantering left but sith any horse...they just didnt un derstand my cues...as my torrso is slightly rotated to the right and my left shoulder blocked and elevated...after phisiopractioner on that....it just improves a everithing lot.

lorry geewhizzbang hii is there any update ?? Did you get better at riding??

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thats great! jumping is a lot of fun. one of the trainers i had told me that to have a good jump you need a strong good flat work. hope this helps a little

+Kitty Katty Thanks a bunch! Even though we do jump on flat ground, I will definitely use and keep in mind this advice😊 talk soon. Bye!

+Zahra Suleman Flat work isn't about the condition of the ground your riding on. Flat work is the technical term for horse riding and training that is not over jumps. It's also not on a trail ride, it's usually in an arena or a paddock.

Blithe Dream Hi there , thanks . I will remember that!😊

As someone who has only learned English and has only just started getting into the "western" world, I would tend to say yes. To most horses, riding style is riding style. They don't care if you're in western tack, english tack, bareback, a lawn chair strapped to their back..... as long as you're giving them the aids they were trained to understand, that's really all that matters. If you're riding using neck-reining instead of 2 reins like in english, the contact part might be a little different, but as for seat and cues, yep- all the same!

Ikr. Riding a stressed or stubborn horse is so painful! I would suggest trying your best to get him to relax, but I realise that's easier than it sounds lol.

Sharon Lamb mine too ! Sometimes if I'm not ready enough I would literally fly off the saddle 😂

Buy a Martingale....today

That's exactly what happens with the horse that I'm riding at the school ! he gets into a faster trot instead of a canter

Horse Talk omg that happened with my horse with ages. I highly recommend ground work!! The parelli method worked best for my horse because it teaches them with pressure and voice !! Try it out

Ryli_Fisher Thanks, I don't ride the same horse anymore but i will definitely do it with my new horse, thanks! Xx

You put your right heel in back of the girth...and apply pressure...that is how they are all trained.

@@philweissburg2194 Technically outside heel, whatever one is closest to the rail.

improperusername- my trainer always says "slow your trot to have a better, more controlled canter"

Hi there. Originally I was trained to return to sitting trot when making the downward transition from canter. More recently I have been taught to go back into rising trot as this contains the leftover impulsion better. So as you prepare to trot, ensure your body is "soft", squeeze with the reins and breathe out slowly. You should feel the horse wind down to the change into trot, at which point you can go rising. A voice command of "whoa" as you breathe out can help a lot as well.

Vicky Hubble unless you're a small child you're not supposed to be kicking your horse at all

Kirsten Sanford That's not helpful at all. Why bother, if you just want to criticize. Goodness.

Vicky Hubble hi, get into a nice trot rhythm, then just go into sitting trot, move the outside leg just behind the girth and tap, keep inside leg on the girth. Remember not to block the movement with your hands. It obviously depends on the Flatwork training of your horse. Now, western riding may have different aids. Hope this helps in some way. Hard to explain. I'd maybe try this on a schoolmaster horse just to get the best feeling.

candy panda thanks so much for your response!!

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Charlotte Perry same

Charlotte Perry you need to learn how to relax into the canter. Going on the lunge line really helps feel the movement and rythem of the horse. Ive been riding 11 years and it still helps.

Omg same

I want to suggest that your stirrups may be adjusted a bit too long, and you probably need to relax your leg more; as your leg muscles tighten, it will have a tendency to pull your foot up.

Charlotte Perry Your problem might be that your heels aren’t down enough, or your leg is getting tight. I used to lose my stirrups a lot! In the sitting trot and in the canter. Then I figured out that was my problem. I like to stretch my leg muscles at home before I go to lessons, so then when I go to put my heels down when I get on, it doesn’t hurt

Ondrea Culp try doing some no-stirrup work.

i hope youll soon find seomething that will help you.

connie waczkowski you kick and push forward with your hips,and do the same for a canter x

Your trainer is correct, to have a more collected trot to canter transition. Mainly, you want your horse to be balanced from trot canter, on the bit with good connection between you and your horse. i.e. my horse can get too fast in trot to where he will not pick up canter transitions, or if he does it is so very sloppy and out of balance and connection with me. So I have to have a nice rhythmic trot in order to canter balanced. This video is speaking about the rider getting used to going forward more in trot to get used to the forward motion of how a canter would be like before you and your horse? I think.

Huh? I ride a very lazy horse and its hard to get him to canter.. But any how, his trot was really slow so my trainer told me to canter so that would make him trot faster .-.

Your post is not clear...does your horse throw you & put your butt on the ground????

Phil Weissburg no she leans in on her shoulder and because of this it makes her head lean more into the arena then a straight line Sorry I wrote this a while ago so I myself didn’t understand but now I do

Make sure you are keeping your hands low and quiet but firm when you hold her at the trot. You can maybe even hold them a little lower and wider than you might normally- by your knees is a good place to wind up if you can get them there. Imagine your hands have become poles that are tied to the ground that keep the same tightness but still are flexible with the trot movement (not the tossing movement) of her head. Ignore the head tossing and instead ask her to do something else- make a circle, leg yield, turn a little left or right, just something else- while maintaining contact (NOT pulling/stopping yanking or sawing) on her head at the trot to distract her from tossing her head. The WORST thing to do is punish the head tossing at this point by yanking or pulling or shouting/yelling. It just means she's frustrated and trying to figure out what to do because she wasn't listening to you. Something else to do is make sure you're not posting erratically or with her crazy unbalanced pace or bouncing in the seat. Use your hips and leg muscles to control your post back to a reasonable pace- even to a quiet sitting trot for a lap or two. You can even talk to her and tell her what you want her to do. Do not ask her to canter or go any faster or slower (just maintain a steady trot) until she is quietly moving (even rhythm, no head tossing, steady pace). Once she is moving quietly, swiftly and subtly ask her to canter for a couple strides and praise her if she goes into it nicely. If she rushes or gets unbalanced, she's not ready. SLOW her IMMEDIATELY (even if it means pulling a little bit initially and then giving your hands/easing your contact when she slows) and ride the trot a couple more laps til she feels even more quiet than before. Then try the transition again and again until she stops rushing and she gets it quietly. She is anticipating the canter (probably because you asked for it ONCE and since she's a lesson horse, that's her job to anticipate what you're going to ask) and you have to teach her that she will canter but only after you ask her to, not before. She has to WAIT. Just be patient! Had a horse that just recently started presenting this issue (especially the head tossing) and I believe we've almost worked through it using the above method. She still tosses her head and sometimes anticipates, but at least now she's starting to get better at listening and waiting. She needs a little more work though, but we'll get there!! It's been maybe 2 or 3 days of work so far, with a few days off in between (we work on it on the weekends since that's when she's ridden) and she's doing pretty well. Of course, all this is assuming you get to ride your lesson horse "however you want to" and are not being directed/instructed as to when, where, and how to ride during a lesson. If you are being directed to ride the canter even though this horse is anticipating and throwing itself off balance, either push through it the best you can, riding with quiet hands and delaying your canter departure until you feel comfortable asking for it, even if it means facing the wrath of your instructor (which...... is a bad thing if your instructor gets upset at you not jumping when they say jump....) OR try this method and talk to your instructor about it as you're trying it. See if they can offer anything else to try for this horse. Its major problem sounds like anticipation and lack of paying attention. You both need to work on bringing this horse back to listening to the rider and not just "guessing" what you want it to do. Hopefully your instructor will be on the same page as you and want to help you solve the problem. If not, it might be time to have a heart to heart with them and find someone who can help you AND their horses.

Nimeariel Thanks for your response, I will try to incorporate your suggested methods in the future. At this point Iv actually regressed to walk trot walk halt transitions. Apparently this horse hasn’t been ridden in a meaningful way in quite some time. She is not overtly head strong but at the same time not really accepting my leadership at every moment. She’s usually willing enough though and each small success seems to breed new small successes. I really am just a beginner and should be working on my riding form instead of debugging this horse which I’m not qualified to do but it’s a laid back barn and I admit I rather enjoy it. Thanks again!

@@JH-lz4ky Yeah, sometimes you HAVE to go backwards in order to go forwards with a horse or with your own skills. Don't feel discouraged or think you've "regressed", feel honored! Every time a lesson horse gets ridden, and I mean EVERY time, even by children who yank and tug on their mouth and don't have a sense of balance at all and just go in circles non stop for an hour, that horse is being trained. And for you to be able to work with this horse, you are able to help train it properly and teach it to do things that it SHOULD be doing in the first place. I always tell my beginners, especially if they are young children, "Did you know that you're helping train the horse? Did you know that you're a professional horse trainer right now?? Whenever you do something, the horse is getting trained to know what to do- and you want to train it the right way, right??" It always encourages them to want to listen and do the right thing when I ask them to do something. So that way, when I, as an instructor, or someone like you, as a "beginner but who knows what they are/should be doing" gets on the horse, there isn't so much extra work to do to "undo" what the others have done. So, feel honored that you're one of the "chosen" to help do right by and "debug" this horse! Your form and your seat will come with working on this horse- don't you worry! Everything sort of mashes into one sometimes when you ride- there really is no separating the parts from the whole. It's a bunch of multitasking at its finest. I'm glad you enjoy it, though, and if you keep at it, you and your horse will work through it and go far!!! :-) It sounds like your trainer knows what they are doing (by having you both slow down) and are working with you to make everything better. Keep it up! You got this!!

A Bit of Bay more of a swing with the seat and upper thigh with the seat and less tense if your get what I’m saying

No it's Not You, My Horse Does the Same, You Just need to Keep your leg on And Squeeze and He/She Should Go Straight Into A Canter

Hi there, all the horses I rode did the same, So I asked my instructor and she said: They do that because their excited about cantering but they get confused maybe 1) youre not squeezing enough 2) Youre tense about something 3) Maybe your horse isnt happy about something and they don't want to canter or 4) Your horse is just being difficult. Hope this helped!😊

+Zahra Suleman Okay thank you that really helps!😀

+Gemmaloves Rocky Youre welcome.😊