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It says its a "Goblin Hewer" It never specifies which one. Clearly it was made to kill specifically Grom the Paunch.

The Goblin Hewer seems to suffer the same curse as all the other things Malakai has namned. He namned a ship ”Unsinkable” which sunk. An airship ”Undestructable” which got destroyed and now he has the Goblin Hewer which excels against large targets…

Come, Mr Tally man, tally my deseases!

On my KZfaq homepage the visible title was "Multiplayer Anal" with the rest of the letters obscured by the time stamp. I thought it meant the video was mostly Slaanesh, with maybe a little Morathi for variety...

Hey turin, here is a little tip you might find helpful when you are unit testing. If you don't want the enemy lord to get involved in the fight give them a flying lord and use your flying units to keep them off the ground while you test the units on the ground.

Please CA keep this level of quality for the rest of your DLC's, Empire and Dwarfs feel like really scary factions now.

Sad to hear that toad dragons are in fact turd dragons but I'm still more hyped about this DLC than I've been for a long time.

Theres is going to be a lot of Grudges getting settled with this DLC.

I have the Goblinhewer tabletop model for 7th edition Warhammer Fantasy. If I recall correctly it did 1d6 S4 attack per rank of the target. So it was definitely anti-infantry. I also have some Doomseeker models from my 7th edition army. Great models.

Correction with the directional missile block attribute. It only counts for the base missile block chance. I.e. if you have 70% block chance from the gold shield in the armour stat bar, it will be 100% of that 70%

Some big questions that weren't answered during the stream: do Tears of Nurgle from Pestigors spread to non-fleeing units after they're triggered by a fleeing unit? This is important because Tears of Nurgle is going to build up the army ability, which makes Pestigors better than they already are, and draining the entire front line of vigour is also very big. Does Alith Anar's artillery bow ignore the missile block chance of the Steam Tank? I'd asked in a super chat but it was unfortunately missed. As far as I'm aware, Alith Anar has the only unblockable bow in the game, it ignores shields entirely, it gains a damage to war machines such as chariots (unless they patched it out since I last looked), and I was curious if the Steam Tank could block his otherwise unblockable bow. Does Shieldbreaker lower the tank's missile block chance? Does Elspeth's laser make good contact on flying wyverns/manticores? They're probably going to be used a lot against her. How well do Dwarf Doomseekers hold up against Death Runners? Those are still a problem for the Dwarfs and it would be nice if they had one unit to scare them away. Does the Wonder of the Age have Terror? Regular Land Ships don't, but in the first land battle game it looked like it Terror routed the Marauder Horsemen. My only real complaints are that I really don't like what they did with Brimstone guns, those new ones are just terrible, though Pestigors do have scaly skin (missile resist) so hopefully their damage is better than it really looks. It also feels weird seeing the Goblin Hewer work on SEM's since the tabletop version is very definitely anti-infantry, but I guess this one does that job just fine. For whatever reason it looked like the Outriders did less damage than War Wagons, maybe it was the angle or shooting the edge of the formation. I am glad the Rotbeasts don't just dunk on Skullcrushers. The Skullcrushers crushed them on the tabletop, however Rotbeasts cost less, so they made up for it that way.

Hey Turin. Just a thought for domination against factions that do not excel in ranged. Tamurkan on foot, Chaos War Shrine/Hero on one, one Bile Troll and one marauder on a point. Second point, whatever works for you to hold. Marauders have substantial more models and will burst up the passive on the shrine when dying. Tamurkan will chunk anything big, shrine will stream of corruption all Infantry. The trolls are generalists so they are ready for all. They will regenerate from the beginning, until the shrine scales up. Plus the mele def aoe will get more casualties for the shrine. When reinforcing, you got nurglings and Pestigors from vanguard. Nurglings usually die off but they have like 45 models on ultra or something like that, so the regen on them works incredibly well. Also the problem with them getting bursted and then gettin disintegrated won't work since the leadership is now so high thanks to the shrine buff. Pestigors got high hp per model but you would bring them in for ap, cap weight and the spread of tears. And at the end of this, if the Trolls are still there, now the leadership buff from the shrine, along with the stacked regen will make them almost impossible to uproot. Conclusion. You hold 2 points. You prosper. LET THE NURGLINGS FEAST!!!!

As a drawf player I’m so ready for this expansion. May the thunder barge bring death to those with grudges!!

So interesting. Thanks for doing this. Lots of cool changes

I sort of like the Thunderbarge being a world destroyer but leaving you with only a small supporting force giving the opponent the option of killing everything else and having it rout off the field. In land battle they can spread out, surround and kill all the land units. In Domination they can capture all the points and ignore it (pretty much like all Dwarf lords. The only issues I see are the cost (up it to 5k) and the speed boost being spammable. If the Dwarfs no longer can play both tall and wide it should help balance it for mp.

You are much appreciated good sir!

Video was amazing as ever man. Certainly will be coming back to WH3 once the patch hits.

I cant wait to finally get my VH achi on dwarfs. The rework and new units look like so much fun.

The gyrocopter test kinda makes me wish the pre-patch brimstone gun gyros were kept/re-added as an RoR (I guess the grudge settler Trollhammer Gyro is basically that) ; similarly I think the Skyhammer is more interesting as a single entity rather getting the same entity increase as regular gyrobombers

How does Missile mirror interact with the thunderbarge?

Empire bring landships, Dawi bring airships, and Nurgle brings Seasicks

wow, we need more such analytic videos. Maybe monthly videos about current meta, new builds etc

I think they should not change elspeths breath attack. It is (unless you can really position yourself good) shit against infantry and it only is good against big single entities. It should be, it is a beam of death magic. You should not want to get targeted by such a strong beam of pure death. Otherwise it becomes worse against infantry than a high elf dragon, and bad against single entities as well.

Garragrim seems kind of bugged to me, he just takes so much damage even with 50 md, it's kind of weird.

really wanted to see why the grudgeraker ror has such low missile strength

When he tries to pick a lord that doesn't have flaming attacks and his selection is: Taurox

"Nerf the dwarwes" something that no one said before😅😅😅 Sounds like is time to return to multiplayer with my dwarves.

@Turin the Landship RoR causes terror

Hi, I saw most of the dwarf testing against factions, they don't have trouble with. I would like to see how their new stuff fares against skaven or dark elves or empire, who gave them the most trouble in the past. I mean their problem are not melee factions, but the fast ones or those who have good range too. That the thunderbarge can destroy an army when its not opposed is obvious. But how does it hold its own against dragons, flyers, skaven ranged or else. 2800 invested and seen it just shot out of the air by jezzails or sisters of averlon. How do the dwarfs react to that? Love you're content Turin, but can you show some testing, wich are more challenging for the dwarfs?

Why is no one showing the Thunderer Grudge Rakers???

3 weeks later, ulrika is still available

Turin, please tell me Wild Riders got some love this patch!

@turinRTS I want to see the absolute comedy that is missile mirror cast onto the thunderbarge

Oh god the slayer artillery reminds me of the modded battle extraveganza you had a while ago why the unsuspecting manticore charged the organ gun(?) and the slayer crew obliterated it. The flying carpets man... it was worse than 'nam.

Any news on new official dom maps?

i'd love an edited version of this, not very accessible at almost 4 hours

Would Thunderbarges be doable for multiplayer if the player HAS to tell their opponent that they’re going to use it?

Doomseekers have 280 health per model! Will definitely mow through chaff. That Barge is insane... can't wait to see what they change about it xD

Are war wagons really changed? Their stats and shooting look identical to the current version.

Yep, the flying battleship aught to be fixed like a pet at the vet.

In tabletop the Goblin Hewer did more damage the bigger the unit was, so not really 1:1 to how it works in game.

i know thunderbarge wins, but i do want to see landship vs. skyship: who has the superior ship in a place it doesn't belong?

Even for campaign the thunderbarge is cancer. Have to autoresolve battles against dwarves to beat it and dwarves have the best auto resolve

every time you say unga bunga it makes me think of the game Chuck Rock from 1991. Also the year I started my first Empire army. Man those metal Reiksguard on foot figures were awesome.

afterburner should not increase agility, thats fucking stupid. Personally, i think it would be better if afterburner was like 100% speed, 25% acceleration, and like 50% more dps. Also the goblin hewer is REALLY interesting, its only 100g more than normal slayers and you get the giant AXE SHOTGUN combined with most of a slayer unit

The dwarf grudge rakers have higher missile strength than blunderbusses and cost 50 less. Why CA?

Been missing the dom games lately!

I wake up to your content everyday. It fucking sucks.

Oh man Dawi are going to be so busted, Empire looking top tier too.

@Turin how slaanesh would handle thunderbarge ? all races got enough ranged or flyers, but slaanesh got none of this to handle thunderbarge right ?

Is there a link to the dude's channel you have played against? Wanna support him by subbing

Not gonna lie, wyvern might be a more relevant unit for greenskins than most expect. Till now azhag was their only air unit.

Kirov reporting...

The design philosophy between the base game and the dlcs have diverged so much its ridiculous. Why does flamers get only 10 shots and bad accuracy but thunderbarge is okay

As expected. Dwarfs who literally needed nothing got the most broken shit ever.

I am 99% sure Ulrika is staying for Dwarfs, just because of her lore with Malakai. But I'm assuming it'll be a campaign only thing.

but you are countering a specialized as expensive as a full geared midtier lord; with 3 marauder axe throwers. no suprice they died; still the barge lost 70% hp. what if you bring 2500 gold off anti-air specific; isn't it screwed then? also dwarfs been weak for a long time, would be nice to see more off them

If they just nerf the speed boost a little to 150%, it should be fine

Thundebarge is lore friendly power level I see no problem lmao

I'd love to see a test of how much you need to kill the thunderbarge consistently. It is somewhat short ranged (at least the shotgunners) - two anti-large artillery, and a ranged firearms unit or two to keep them honest. Stuff that would be reasonable against any army. WoC, Khorne, VC would have problems, obviously. As for the test of goblin hewer... why, oh why, did you not test it against goblins?!?!?

Thunderbarge cannot be "fun" in SP either.

We are back to goofy, mega-powerful badass units... going to be a good DLC cycle: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdKmeq6GnK6qZoE.html

Should thunderbarge be locked to extended roster in multi? As opposed to nerf them and ruin them in campaign?

think thubderbarge just needs a rework. thunderers are fine, but bombs could just be an activated abillity you can use 3x, and front cannons need less ammo. get rid of speed ability and reduce its health to 8k and its probably balanced at 2800

He just looks like your average tabletop player😂

I dont think Thinderbarge needs many nerfs, just make thunderburner deal more damage to it, and make it move slower and ta da. Cause it HAS to be good, its like only thing dwarves have that is not straight up countered by any other faction.

Units in mp are rarely broken; Usually just improperly priced. Thunderbarge now costs 7500 gold. Problem solved.

Dawi feel so OP now

Man nuln irosides without repeater sucks

One thought regarding the Thunderbarge. If it gets banned in various tourneys there should be 1 exception where you can take it. The Skaven. That fight has been so oppressive for so long its only fair.

I hope the thunder barge is nerfed before the dlc releases

Please do not nerf thunderbarge.

I don't know, Turin. I'm not convinced the thunderbarge is OP. Needs some more testing...

It is a sad day when the long awaited Nurgle DLC adds useless, expensive units and a trash tier Legendary Lord for Nurgle itself. CA will not be getting my money on this one!

Dwarfs: need help, some of lowest win rates in MP. Dwarfs: get thunderbarge Turin: its too good! Nerf it! Do you have more than like, 5 games in it? The thunderbarge will get rekt by artillery.