THROTTLES: Twist vs Thumb - Which is better?!

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@sunnynaidoo235
@sunnynaidoo235 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been binge watching all of your KZfaq vids in preparation for my first ebike. This one was just as helpful, and I imagine, as a long time motorcycle rider, I think I’d be similar in preferring the half throttle. Thanks! Sunny
@TeeKoon
@TeeKoon Жыл бұрын
Bikes controls like brakes are the reverse of motorcycles, throttle on the left side, I"m changing to a motorcycle standard pattern, reverse the brakes earlier, bought a regular right twist throttle too
@DrowningPool10
@DrowningPool10 4 жыл бұрын
I'm changing from a half twist throttle to a thumb throttle located on the left hand side, as i have gear thumb shift selector already on the right. - good video about throttles.
@nickturner4150
@nickturner4150 3 жыл бұрын
I like the control a thumb throttle gives from a standing start. Useful when initially mounting imo.
@maryblaylock6545
@maryblaylock6545 4 жыл бұрын
WOW! That's enough to make my head swim! I have a LOT to learn. A friend who manages a bike shop has said when this pandemic is over he will help me convert my bike! Whole new learning experience! Thanks for the information. 👍🖖
@northernfreelance5788
@northernfreelance5788 2 жыл бұрын
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@williamaungleyraud
@williamaungleyraud 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer the thumb throttle because it allows me to have my remaining fingers resting on the brake lever, in many cases as I was cruising around, a car pops out of a driveway or a garage without checking and having my finger right by the brake lever I many times could let go of the throttle and immediately yank on the brake to stop the bike, where on the half-twist throttle you're gripping on the throttle and your handle grip at all the time, so that additional fraction of time you need to let go it the twist and reach your fingers over the lever to then press hard on it, doesn't pass me the confidence of control feeling. It might be something just psychological but having my fingers ready to press the brake makes me feel in control of the bike, than the bike in control of me. So in my hike I also have a horn button wrapped around my handle grip, so my thumb its on the throttle, my index finger is by the horn button and the left 3 fingers on the brake lever. So while I brake I honk the heck out of the driver to wake him up while I stop my bike to avoid a collision. Seems a lot, but saved me every time. Thanks God.
@LetArtsLive
@LetArtsLive 4 жыл бұрын
I have been riding bicycles since I was 7 years old. July 14th 2002 I first rode my hammer ebike. I watched a lot of videos they said there's a lot of power but I didn't believe it LOL. So I take off I'm at the End of the Street faster than I can believe it it's a short Street. I was going to turn right but with the giant fat tires is not so easy so I almost believed then I went up on the sidewalk and crashed. And I hit my nub straight down on the sidewalk. And then I got up and rode 12 more miles and that was the most fun I've had in years. Sitting here trying to heal my foot then I lost my leg after years of trying to save it so I've hardly been anywhere except the doctor and shopping and now I am free yay yay for e-bikes and I used my stimulus for something good that should last me a very long time if I keep it maintained. It's a lot like a regular bicycle Minus the electric motor and being 70 pounds and the giant tires. I truly believe in E bikes. I was researching and the first ebike looks like a motorcycle was in 1895 but they didn't have the distance please do and that was made by Bosch I wonder if it was made in Rochester New York near me they have a place Bausch & Lomb well they used to.
@neoroberts2802
@neoroberts2802 2 жыл бұрын
Or u can just hit the brakes with your left hand makes things a lot easier 🤦‍♂️
@northernfreelance5788
@northernfreelance5788 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, thumb all the way! Plus switch the brakes to the UK style. Actually is the right way compared to dirt bikes etc.. Front brake on the right
@Impossible_Fishy
@Impossible_Fishy 2 жыл бұрын
@@neoroberts2802 each brake is a different tire
@NicGoldenEddie
@NicGoldenEddie 2 жыл бұрын
That where short way twist throttles come in handy. You can rest your pointing finger on the break and still twist it. Or change the brakes. But thumb throttle is cool too. I just like twist better. But your points are valid. Look at quads these have thumb throttles for a reason. I ride long empty paths so of course I choose the twist. It’s an easy ride nothing to worry about.
@MrDJCultus
@MrDJCultus 4 жыл бұрын
First time watching your video and I enjoy it ! I have an electric scooter with thumb acceleration over a year and I have to say that it’s fine for me ! Thanks 🙏 very much for the content of this video and now back to another of your videos 😁
@jrodgers33
@jrodgers33 4 жыл бұрын
Good timing, I was just wondering about the various throttle options. And I totally agree, it should be on the right.
@Cat-Mitz
@Cat-Mitz 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, you have not mentioned the "feeling" of a twist throtle. I have used the thumb throtle, but the twist has a major advantage: really controlling the motor.If you press the thumb throtle, you can feel a certain gradual power increasing, as you are pressing the thumb button.But with twist throtle, that's more let's say "fine tuned" I can twist the throtle, just to keep the motor rotating really slow and being able to accelerate smoother, just like when having the more expensive controllers, for example ASI bac, or phaserunner.These controllers are known to keep the motor rotating.This of course applies only for mid drive motors, i have tested and noticed this while using bbs02b and bbshd motors.
@richardlewis4066
@richardlewis4066 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought my first ebike and it came with a thumb throttle that has cruise control built in. After holding the throttle down for approximately 6 seconds the cruise control kicks in and you can release the throttle and the bike maintains what ever speed you were going. To turn it off you simply tap either brake and it cuts off the motor. Love this feature, use it all the time on my 20 mile round trip commute to work.
@rubenrebenz1000
@rubenrebenz1000 Жыл бұрын
Seems companies are catering more to the commuter class. Bought a Gemini e bike it has slicks, thumb throttle, cruise control, 28AH, 750w motor, hydraulic disc brakes, 400lb load capacity. Not the highest specs but great value under $2000 including tax and shipping.
@timwebb2129
@timwebb2129 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience in the videos. I would be interested in two topics for future videos: 1) trouble shooting electrical issues (diagnosis, testing, repair) and 2) comparing/selecting controllers and how to wire/connect if mismatched (not a kit).
@Leonardokite
@Leonardokite 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I predicted the 1/2 throttle when you mentioned the grip to hold vs constant twisting.
@woodsculptor675
@woodsculptor675 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I converted my bikes to thumb levers by using cramp busters and cutting them to fit. Seems to give me better control, and no 'accidental throttling'! Keep up the good work!
@chrisw.1090
@chrisw.1090 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos!! Informative, concise, and consistent content delivery. Thanks!
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 4 жыл бұрын
So far no complaints with the half twist. Some people even will attach a zip tie (or something similar) to make a half twist into a thumb throttle. I guess at that point you have the option of using either.
@paulmouttet1739
@paulmouttet1739 4 жыл бұрын
Another great informative video on a relevant topic that is a personal preference. Even though I lack the experience of riding an electric bike I have ridden motorcycles so a right handed twist throttle make sense. I was thinking the thumb throttle would have been a good choice but this video puts a lot into perspective. Thanks
@wearemilesfromnowhere4630
@wearemilesfromnowhere4630 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent discourse on the subject. I agree with the half twist. Thank you!
@blinderb853
@blinderb853 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that the title of your video didn’t specify bicycles. I would have casually skipped over it. Turns out your information was very helpful in my decision of which type of throttle to install on my daughter’s ATV project. Thank you!
@nuance2317
@nuance2317 4 жыл бұрын
Having ridden motorcycles most my life, Twiiissssst!!
@wildboy8346
@wildboy8346 3 жыл бұрын
2021 and ive only just heard of these things! I like twist but wouldnt mind trying one of these
@MmmmmmmmmmmMm15
@MmmmmmmmmmmMm15 2 жыл бұрын
For me it’s twist only because of cruise control
@Ramon314
@Ramon314 2 жыл бұрын
But if you have ridden a motorcycle for so long, why just don't ride a motorcycle? Haha a ebike must be so slow in comparison.
@rexluminus9867
@rexluminus9867 2 жыл бұрын
Half throtle is best.When you're standing it's way more different than on a bike.
@rexluminus9867
@rexluminus9867 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ramon314 Some escooters can go 80K +!!! Standing on it feels way faster than on a bike.😹🤬🙀
@joejazwinski8873
@joejazwinski8873 4 жыл бұрын
The Mod I bought came with a full twist, I didn't like it and got a thumb lever and absolutely LOVE it! despite the issues over rough terrain, but that's what PAS is for, right?!? lol Also I use an old school friction thumb shifter and just have the throttle under the bars and the shifter over the bars works great!
@codbug
@codbug Жыл бұрын
My bike came with a half-twist. Used it for several months before trying out a cheap thumb throttle on a whim. Found I had way more precise speed control with the thumb throttle, a less cluttered cockpit, and more constant stability while also being able to keep my fingers rested on the brake lever at all times for an overall safer and more stable experience for someone who occasionally has to ride on ice and slush. I've not experienced any of the downsides listed. My bike's controller has PAS and cruise control, I had more issues with bounce affecting throttle on the half-twist with my weight being partially distributed onto the throttle, and I routinely commute in sub-freezing temperatures without issue by simply wearing gloves--something I'd be doing in the cold, regardless of if I was on a bike or not. May be worth mentioning that I've been playing video games for over 35 years and am a pianist, and have a strong, well-conditioned thumb, and possibly an under-developed wrist, so others' mileage may vary. The difference in analog precision for me however was night and day. To borrow an analogy from gaming, it was like switching from an analog stick to a mouse for aiming.
@jason.arthur.taylor
@jason.arthur.taylor 2 ай бұрын
"The difference in analog precision for me however was night and day." Are you saying that the half-twist throttle sucked because it was not analogue?
@codbug
@codbug 2 ай бұрын
@@jason.arthur.taylor Nope, the operating word was precision. My thumb with no other forces being exerted on it could make much finer adjustments than my entire wrist which was also supporting part of my weight, gripping the handlebars for stability and keeping my fingers within reach of the brakes (and later my turn signals). It was easier to maintain a stable grip, especially over bumpy terrain and still have very precise control with flexing a loose thumb than twisting my entire wrist. With the thumb I could accelerate much more slowly and hold any speed I wanted without interference from any other factors.
@e-bikerbulgaria
@e-bikerbulgaria 4 жыл бұрын
Thumb throttle connected to control variable regen and halve twist for motor throttle. Another awesome video from Micah.
@donwright3427
@donwright3427 4 жыл бұрын
as my Chinese 500 watt conversion gives me full power on peddling I have a thumb throttle and an adjustable stop made from an old lamp bracket. I can set it a comfortable speed and just hold it down. Once I release whilst peddling the full power comes back in for the hilly bits.Its worked out better than I anticipated as I am used to riding motor cycles with twist grip and at first wished I had that set up.
@lucasaranguren1738
@lucasaranguren1738 4 жыл бұрын
mannnn, thank you for everything you do. You are awesome, good reliable information!
@robertkidwell8049
@robertkidwell8049 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! That’s gonna save me a lot of time to figure out which one I like
@oldkingcole6147
@oldkingcole6147 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! ... You always do a remarkably fine job of explaining things. Thanks for sharing!
@DavidHouck128
@DavidHouck128 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video Micah, look forward to another!
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 4 жыл бұрын
My Ebike came with a 1/2 twist that has enough grip on it that I can also use it as a thumb throttle. It helps a lot.
@mellowme4
@mellowme4 3 жыл бұрын
I'm shopping around for my first electric ladies bike after having back surgery. I need to get fit. I found your videos a wealth of info. Really Kool - Fabulous 👍 appreciated Melly Mel
@SMKreitzer1968
@SMKreitzer1968 4 жыл бұрын
Great information on throttle types, thanks for sharing.
@blakehugh
@blakehugh 4 жыл бұрын
As a motorcycle rider, I'd go with a twist throttle. That way I'd have no learning curve on giving it the juice.
@gress12000
@gress12000 3 жыл бұрын
I ride a motorcycle probably 355 days a year I really appreciate the thumb throttle. I have to super sport motorcycles.
@Billlakeview
@Billlakeview 4 жыл бұрын
Your opinion is right on target as usual, but when you add in PAS and cruise control possibilities, the fatigue factor is less or nonexistent. Then the key is what kind of shifting you prefer. For me, I prefer thumb shifters and then that means putting a thumb throttle to the inside of the shifter to avoid interference.
@ACAGT
@ACAGT 4 жыл бұрын
I always use thumb throttle, its more comfortable and more precise. Its also safer from unwanted situations when bike is being parked or pushed and you or someone else accidentally push the throttle
@michaelrowland6538
@michaelrowland6538 Жыл бұрын
I have a left side half throttle and glad they do them it is upto the individual as I do have a grip gear changer on the right, so I am very happy having the throttle on the left side. Mike
@chris18112
@chris18112 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer left hand throttle cause of my left hand having more strength and dexterity than my right hand. I appreciate company's giving us choices.
@EUCXR
@EUCXR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks micah I love your content and watch all your videos
@JamiePineappleWyatt
@JamiePineappleWyatt 4 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the user and their preferences. I even go to the extent of tuning my throttles with heavier return springs so it feels heavier and like it has more consequence to giving it a good yank for those newbie users that used to throw my bike from under themselves first time guaranteed.
@donkeyperfection
@donkeyperfection 4 жыл бұрын
another great video! thanks micah
@TheVirtuallyAddicted
@TheVirtuallyAddicted 4 жыл бұрын
Really easy to make a cruise control set up for your thumb throttle. If you have a key ignition or a kill switch you can use that to cut the power if you need to stop.
@andrejsmazurs7774
@andrejsmazurs7774 3 жыл бұрын
Great work you are doing, sir. Thank you for that. Inspired me a lot. Working on my 3rd e-bike at the moment. I have a question. Why do (cheap) controllers don't have regen braking over 59 volts?
@rickcowan7527
@rickcowan7527 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a superinformative and well-made video!
@QuebecFietser
@QuebecFietser 3 жыл бұрын
i preffer half twist trottle, with a simple 3d printed peice, i can make it a thumb trottle and even put a cruise function on it if i want to. i like your videos, i plan to buy and convert a cargo bike to an ebike so they help a lot
@joesamprerer
@joesamprerer 2 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks! Is a left half throttle more helpful in a quick reaction situation where you need to slam on the rear (right side) brakes?
@EVUK-bd2vn
@EVUK-bd2vn 22 күн бұрын
If like me - a regular runner, jogger, trekker etc - you've tripped and fallen quite heavily onto you hands once or twice a year you probably also find that it's usually your thumb and thumb-base that breaks most of each fall's force - so you end up with a thumb that doesn't much like being kept 'muscled" and taut in a stiff position for very long. One advantage of that is you'll feel less inclined to use battery power for long stretches and keep fitter because your stiff aching thumb starts complaining after each 20 secs or so of thumb-throttling..
@Altema22
@Altema22 3 жыл бұрын
Half twist throttle, on the right, works best for me. I'm used to it there, and my thumb is free to shift without letting go of the throttle. I sometimes take my modified RadMini on mountain bike trails, and I'd run into trouble trying to hang onto a full twist throttle.
@oze-bikes4life663
@oze-bikes4life663 3 жыл бұрын
Another great informative video 👍👌 I personally run a Left hand Thumb throttle as i have a 11 speed Gear shifter on the right. I got my thumb throttle version similar to that of a jetski or Quad throttle meaning movement from right to left instead of the thumb throttle you showed which operates in a up/down operation. I think the jetski /Quad style is easier to use as its closer to my normal left hand grip position (a more natural position)
@connicrow9463
@connicrow9463 Жыл бұрын
Where can you get this Quad style throttle ?
@GrantSR
@GrantSR 4 жыл бұрын
I like your "real life experience" pros and cons.
@donaldmanning7379
@donaldmanning7379 Жыл бұрын
I am glad I watched your video because I just bought a e bike with the half twist throttle and was thinking about going to a thumb throttle. So for now I will use the one I have and see how I like it before I decide to change it. I also agree with you on the right side throttle since I rode a motorcycle for many years and that is also what I am use to. first timer on your video and now I am going to subscribe as soon as I finish this comment. Thank you.
@LChow-xq3xm
@LChow-xq3xm 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with your preference...
@gustavolacerda9354
@gustavolacerda9354 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I’m running an awesome diy battery on my AT longboard thanks to your vruzend kit!! But my question is: is it possible to run an easy electric setup that allow me to run the signal from the throttle to the motor without an esc or vesc? Thanks for all you teach us
@giorgigvinianidze2824
@giorgigvinianidze2824 4 жыл бұрын
I agree about the left side thumb throttle being a bit awkward but I do think it is the best option for e-bikes with the torque-sensing setup since its a secondary control
@envisionlab
@envisionlab 4 жыл бұрын
Never would'be gave the throttle design much thought but thanks for covering this.
@reeread
@reeread 4 жыл бұрын
I agree I use a half twist throttle on the right side of the handle bar. I find it has much less fatigue than a thumb throttle though I’ve never used a full throttle. As far as a left side throttle. It would get In the way of my ejection seat bottom.
@brandonmoreno5644
@brandonmoreno5644 Жыл бұрын
Helpful video, thank you for your brilliance.
@dumsterdave
@dumsterdave 4 жыл бұрын
for my first 3 years I used a few different thumb throttles, but a few years ago i switched to a half twist and I think its much much better. a lot less hand fatigue
@tnig
@tnig 3 жыл бұрын
It's pronounced "hand fayg-teeg" actually. Check 5 minutes in the video 😝
@jerryhunnicutt9244
@jerryhunnicutt9244 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe one of these days my ordered ebikes will arrive from ten buck two, and I can insert some input into my preference of throttle type also! Why can't we design and build an affordable and competitively good ebike in the USA to avoid the annoying wait times for a ship to circumnavigate the planet? But thank you for your informative video. Stay safe
@reddymon
@reddymon 4 жыл бұрын
As a long time motorcyclist I am well accustomed to a twist throttle. I have used a thumb throttle on an atv. In very rough terrain I hit a bump, inadvertently accelerated, and ended upside down under the atv. So, yeah, thumb throttles for me are no. Never tried one but the half throttle sounds real good and may be something I would really like.
@pixelatedmushroom
@pixelatedmushroom 4 жыл бұрын
A disadvantage of the half-twist is that you now have to find a "half grip" to fill out the end of the bar. If you use a full length normal grip, it gets too long and funky or it doesn't fit at all (hitting the curve part of the bar). The "half grip" is actually fairly hard to find and limits you to a small set of available grips.
@rexluminus9867
@rexluminus9867 2 жыл бұрын
It's all about muscle memory which you'll get used to it.Period.
@zephyrbalint-fitzgerald5142
@zephyrbalint-fitzgerald5142 Жыл бұрын
bruh just cut it
@HighVoltageKits
@HighVoltageKits 4 жыл бұрын
Left half twist. I have my gears on the right with a single brake cut off. The half twist IMO is by far the safest option for a throttle as you can ride without worry of triggering the throttle in a busy area. Experienced motorcycle riders may get on fine with a full twist but most people jumping on ebikes are not such people. Never wanted to try a thumb. I have one I want to use for regen braking tho. Cheers
@evanwindom3265
@evanwindom3265 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see how any kind of a twist throttle can be less likely to be accidentally activated than a thumb throttle, since your hands are always on the grips, but can easily be kept well away from a thumb throttle. To me, using a thumb throttle requires a deliberate choice. But, if it's a concern for you, that's cool, too. Whatever makes it safe and fun is the right thing.
@yogevyadid5923
@yogevyadid5923 3 жыл бұрын
You can have a twist throttle with a grip shifter easily. Just put the throttle on the other side. It's not that natural but you get used to it easily especially if you have a midrive and you need to shift often, sometime 2-3 gears at once (that's why I'm using the twist shifter). For me that's the best configuration and it works perfectly. While using a thumb throttle or shifter I found that tendon inflammation occurs much often
@Blakehx
@Blakehx 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great info! I have a Lectric XP 2.0 with a half twist throttle (it’s a bit difficult with my huge hands) but what do you think about switching the brakes so that the left handle brakes the rear wheel and right handle breaks the front… any disadvantages? Thanks
@JackTar361
@JackTar361 3 жыл бұрын
I ride motorcycles, so am used to the twist throttle. Having said that, have taken several test ride while shopping for an ebike. All have the left thumb throttle. I adjusted so I will go with the ebike that meets my other needs and not worry about the throttle placement.
@guyco
@guyco 4 жыл бұрын
i pronounce fatigue like "fah-teeg" but your way is awesome too :)
@ctcboater
@ctcboater 4 жыл бұрын
The thumb throttle on my Juiced Bike is on the left side. It doesn't interfere with the shifter. Control is shared by the brake lever only. Personally, I only use the throttle when starting off or on steep hills.
@KatrinaLeFaye
@KatrinaLeFaye Жыл бұрын
I really like full twist, for the ability to use the motorcycle cruise control clip on. While it can be done with a half throttle it is much more difficult to get on correctly and you likely need to do some surgery to the clip on part to make it usable.
@frogmandave1
@frogmandave1 4 жыл бұрын
This is another great video. I am in agreement with you about the right side throttle. Having ridden every conceivable type of powered 2 wheeler during my lifetime, getting used to a left side would just be too weird. My current bike has a left side thumb throttle and I don't like it at all. I would like to see you do 2 new videos. One would be a how to on wiring in accessories to existing controllers. For horns, lights, etc. The other world be on how to convert a thumb throttle to half or full twist. Any special pickups, etc. or are they all standard and just work right (see what I did there) out of the box?
@PCDoctorUSA
@PCDoctorUSA 3 жыл бұрын
Thinking of installing a Bafang BBS02 on my new Trek Verve 2. The problem I see right off the bat is that the bike's trigger shifter is going to get bumped out of reach if I have to make room for the standard right-hand thumb throttle that's included with most kits. A full or half twist seems like the logical alternative, but a left-hand thumb throttle would definitely work since I lose the front derailleur shifter when going with a mid-drive. From having a rear hub e-bike in the past, I only use the throttle to get started from a full stop.
@kmemz
@kmemz 3 жыл бұрын
I'll go for thumb throttle with wind guards, either in the form of wind breaking gloves, or handlebar-mounted hand covers.
@junsview1261
@junsview1261 4 жыл бұрын
From twist to thumb throtlevis a revolution, while evolution of twist is ongoing from sling to wire, half twist and so on... to reduce even eleminate weakness...
@kimnielsenthewordyvikingett159
@kimnielsenthewordyvikingett159 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely thumb 👍guy. A lot of bikes nowadays twist to shift so you can leave that alone if you want to add e power 🔋further into the handle bar's and either put the motor on the left side in back or right front on the fork. So it won't effect the bike in any way so it remains pedalable as before. And hopefully free wheelable power so if you run out of juice you can pedal home 😀. What do you think? Of course that's if you are adding power to a regular 21 speed mountain bike 🚵‍♀️. With shocks front and back.
@robertpersall98
@robertpersall98 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. It answers a lot of questions for me. I have one for you that I haven't found anyone doing. I have a trolling motor I was thinking about using on the front wheel of my bike, using a rear wheel, and chain drive. What do you think of this idea and is it practical?
@bobsyris
@bobsyris 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison, I haven't used a twist throttle on a ebike yet. Looking forward to it.
@terry3906
@terry3906 4 жыл бұрын
I use thumb throttle for my geo orbital conversion kit, but I also have an extender on it so I can just gently angle my wrist and press it with the heel of my palm.
@schrockie1
@schrockie1 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the thumb throttle. I've had one to many "whiskey throttle" incidents with the "twist"!
@dustman96
@dustman96 4 жыл бұрын
I find that on rough terrain, like a trail, I have trouble with the twist throttle, for instance when I lean back to lift the front tire over an obstacle the throttle tends to twist and apply more power while you are pulling back, potentially causing the bike to wheelie, not a good situation. Then again, the thumb throttle can sometimes accidentally be applied when the handlebars get jolted upwards by a rock or you make a jump and land hard. Overall I prefer the thumb throttle for comfort and safety.
@hemrajsodisetti3942
@hemrajsodisetti3942 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing content 👍 Keep going ❤
@jasonthole9613
@jasonthole9613 4 жыл бұрын
The thumb throttle works best for my cockpit. It just fits and looks better. And my wrist isnt as sore after a ride.
@Greg-3749
@Greg-3749 4 жыл бұрын
Great topic... I too prefer the 1/2 twist throttle. Changing subjects, what is the safest 18650 chemistry for e-bikes?
@TheJimthecanoeist
@TheJimthecanoeist 8 ай бұрын
Eureka! I viewed your excellent videos and tried adding a thumb to my Himiway Cruiser with not altogether satisfactory results and off it came. I prefer to twist but found the half-grip throttle clumsy to modulate. Then an epiphany: Those flattened comfy grips are the problem. As I try to rotate the throttle with the right side of my palm, the left side is held in place by the right-side half-grip. I replaced both grips with conventional round grips slightly smaller in diameter than the throttle and now I have great control. The shape of the new grips allows my palm to slip in concert with the rotation of the throttle. What do you think? Have I just advanced the half-throttle solution, at least for this setup?
@WarpedSpeed
@WarpedSpeed 3 жыл бұрын
The best is what you are comfortable with and can work with out thinking about it. I have a Quad with a thumb and a motorbike with a twist. this means that I have twisted the grip off of the Quad and broke the choke on the motorbike.
@stevelacroix2917
@stevelacroix2917 4 жыл бұрын
Old full twist guy here, Thumb seems to be my new favorite.
@DaninVA
@DaninVA Жыл бұрын
Great video. Well explained!
@ricknoe942
@ricknoe942 4 жыл бұрын
I much prefer the thumb throttle on my kit ebike to the full twist throttle on my fat tire ebike. I put the thumb throttle on the left bar so no interference with the twist shifter on the right. I used to ride motorcycles too, and I still prefer it on the left. The biggest thing I dislike about the full twist throttle is that it's nowhere near as easy to modulate the power - you can't just feather on a little power, it *starts* at like half power. I only have my bike to compare to, maybe other full twist throttles are better than mine. I hope so. As to getting a sore thumb? Nah. There's a secret. Put thumb pressure on the housing, not on the throttle lever. You can then roll your thumb a little up or down for more or less power. You don't need a lot of pressure to keep your thumb on the housing either. Thanks again Micah for another great video!
@lhunter325
@lhunter325 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a Hyper e-bike 26 in bike. My question: the bike is great, no problems at all….like you experienced in your demo….Being that the bike is pedal assist, whisch works well. The only problem I have is getting started from a dead stop….as a pedal assist there is a delay which some folks get impatient. XHow can I add a thumb throttle to help me get to speed quickly. Thanks Les Hunter
@keldonator
@keldonator 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a combination of half twist and thumb would be cool. Like a notch on the flange for your thumb that you can twist into position then hold with your palm.
@Spaghetti888
@Spaghetti888 4 жыл бұрын
I changed from a thumb throttle to a half-twist as it got in the way of my shifters. The half-twist just about fits - I could do with grinding down the levers a bit though...
@ziggystardog
@ziggystardog 2 жыл бұрын
My conversion has a cruise control, so this is a non-issue for me. I have a full twist on the right side, but the others would probably be fine too. I have butterfly handlebars so the grips are at an angle but it works for me. You can always cover the brake with your non-throttle hand and move to the throttle hand to the brake after letting go.
@michaelcharach
@michaelcharach Жыл бұрын
Cruise control is great on e-bike.
@Skelterbane69
@Skelterbane69 Жыл бұрын
I once rode my old ATV moped to school, during winter and I forgot my gloves. Went on a shrotcut through the forst, toskip the motorway (cus it was a moped) and I had to hold onto that gas for over an hour. Needless to say, the skin on my thumb felt really loose and the skin got purple. 10/10 would recommend.
@rkzuki2936
@rkzuki2936 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer full twist throttle as it is easier to use the regen braking. I also have cruise control, this helps to rest the wrist or thumb when in use.
@dalvenable331
@dalvenable331 Жыл бұрын
The half twist is by far the safest, I stopped adding full throttles because how dangerous they prove to be on electric bikes. Had a demo bike conversion for folks to test ride 1000 watt basic system with a full twist throttle. I had too many customers doing surprise wheelies in front of the shop! And if you drop it on the throttle side your bike can show you a few brake dance moves. Thumb throttle is good to do as you mentioned in your video switch sides with. I like to do this because I have played Evil Kanevil with my body on bikes all my life and some days one hand or the other may need a rest so I have screw on handle grips and will switch sides with my universal thumb throttle. P.s. I generally remove all gears and such systems from my personal build and only use the rear derailleur as a chain tensioner after bending and filing out guide to fit heavier single speed chains. Thanks for your videos!
@solstar4778
@solstar4778 3 жыл бұрын
The one that works 👍it came with the bike!
@primomacias2103
@primomacias2103 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! Yeah let’s stay in the right hand side of bike for throttling!!! Thanks
@brothercody7338
@brothercody7338 Жыл бұрын
Definitely thumb in general, had a twist throttle that was blocking my right gears by the display, so couldn't shift, plus my wrist was cramping, went to thumb throttle, totally better, just wish display was better, I turned the thumb throttle so my thumb is in a naturally resting position when at full throttle so I'm relaxed no cramping
@BASTIEN747
@BASTIEN747 4 жыл бұрын
Let's say I was to build an electric motorcycle(homologated one) or convert an existing one , and my solution is all about engineering a very different product to the existing market while still making it feel like a sports cruiser / coffee racer. What never produced features would you be looking for in such machine so that the experience would justify buying it over a classic ev/ gaz bike on the existing market?
@Art_Travel_and_Hobbys
@Art_Travel_and_Hobbys 4 жыл бұрын
Half Twist since it would have the less fatigue... So, you are definitely right about full twist. 👍🏿
@DrCarlLadd
@DrCarlLadd Ай бұрын
I really enjoy your videos and find them on every subject! 😂
@williamaungleyraud
@williamaungleyraud 4 жыл бұрын
How about a video about regen braking vs dynamo charging? Advantages and disadvantages, which yields more power back into the battery, ease to use and why not.
@Denvermorgan2000
@Denvermorgan2000 4 жыл бұрын
If you have trigger shift you can put the thumb throttle on the right side its easy to get used to.
@peppapig2112
@peppapig2112 3 жыл бұрын
Let s say that with a single charger (i.e. 58.8V) you want to charge 2 52V batteries at the same time and in order to do that you make a 'Y type' splitter with 1 female terminal and 2 male terminals. Assuming that the 2 batteries before recharging show different voltage level, say one os at 43V, the other at 46 V. What precautions would you take to prevent current running from the 46v battery to the 43v battery through the Y splitter? Maybe diodes on each positive wire? Or maybe following a rigid sequence, charger to splitter first and then splitters to batteries, will suffice?
@eastwood111
@eastwood111 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve ridden motorcycles all my life but when it comes to E! bikes I prefer the thumb throttle on the left side. Reason being is I keep my trigger shifters on the right side. It only took a few weeks to remember it was on the left side and now it’s muscle memory
@johnalbrecht3786
@johnalbrecht3786 2 жыл бұрын
After riding a few miles using a full twist throttle, unless it has cruise control, my hand gets sore. Thankfully, the ebike I often use does have cruise control. The second ebike does not and it's an very obvious difference, and I may replace the twist throttle with a thumb throttle on that bike to give it a try. Alternatively, I've also thought of designing my own cruise control add-on circuit for that bike.
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