Hey everyone, being totally objective, THIS IS QUALITY CONTENT. I love the fact that he's helping everyone to create real criteria, that's a big deal in this industry.👏🏻👏🏻 Now, I totally agree with everything he's saying, I personally own an Antelope interface with DSP, I find it useful and I love the sound quality of the plugins and the interface it self, but I don't need it, I was working for many years with my old Macbook pro, mixing even with stock plugins and freewares, and I'm sure I can reach as good results with that just as I do with the DSP based plugins, just because I prioritized education and spent a lot of time understanding how processes and processors works, even now I keep learning, experimenting and trying new things. Invest in knowledge first!! ✌🏻✌🏻

It’s great to have an objective point of view and bring things in to the proper perspective. I got the exact same Mac mini setup as you and it’s all I need.

What a pleasure to be able to watch videos produced by someone who really knows his field of work! I have four synths I need to integrate with my DAW. Your videos opened my eyes and I narrowed down my options to an Audient ID44 and a Motu M4. Ended up ordering the latter. Prior to one of your previous videos I was thinking about an Apollo Twin and by comparing specs, in no way it's worth all that extra money. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.

Oh my god it was like a blessing for me .Never found so much of an awesome information anywhere before.thank u so much

Very good explanation ... it really helped me to think about what I really need to have in my home studio to do my projects and recordings... Thanks

You are a amazing human, you deserve more subscribers and views. Thank you for you amazing content.

Real-time tracking aside, UA's need for DSP is nothing more than bulletproof copy protection with the speed of computers these days. HDX was always a step-up as it's the entire mix engine - so for realtime recording with high I/o, near zero latency and negligible load on huge mixes and surround, it's still pretty killer. It's a shame the carbon didn't come out like 5 years ago going head to head with the Apollo. AAX-DSP was literally dead in the water so here's hoping this revitalizes interest for devs to make cool stuff for it.

I think it's all about using ProTools on an Apple machine since even top-spec Apples can't handle the "modern" mixing/sound designing sessions. Good Pre-amps and AD-DA converters are more important for good audio. my choice for project studios is something like Focusrite Clarett 4pre - good 4 preamps+ADAT input (for tracking drums externally) and it's still quite affordable so you can focus more on stuff like the actual plugins which cost a lot nowadays:)

Another class video. One thing you forgot to mention was the Behringer (and similar) line of affordable digital mixers like the XR18 and the X32 Rack, both of which have DSP power and are very affordable. When you need to track with DSP, no problem. But in this day and age with modern computers you can go down to 16 samples buffer size with modern audio interfaces and of course the bounce a mix was something i've done for years but since last year not so much as my computer is super fast.

tx for this one . No BS content , quality content .

Truly honest and practical video I have been through so far .. otherwise I have seen people bragging around some specific over rated product of some x company .

Give me my old Tasacm 16track and syncing my cubase on my ATARI I did some great demos yes your right about what your saying bring back the old times I'm a 70 year Guy Who is still recording on with all the up to date gear but I think software is what's going wrong most of the time If all your gear works why fix it. Really like your channel all the best Old man from the England 🎵🎶🎸🎼👍🤗🎶🎵

I love this video! You’ve touched on a lot of things that need to be discussed as far as I’m concerned. I was operating a Black Lion Audio modded Digi 002 for many years, until it finally crapped out on me. This thing suited me perfectly and sounded fantastic as well, so when it went down, it was a huge loss! I’ve been put in an extremely uncomfortable position, as my entire system has been rendered ineffective and needs to be upgraded because now everything is running on 64 bit. I really don’t personally care for a lot of these third-party interfaces that have these internal mixers built in them like the Focusrites and such. I want to be able to plug and play just like my 002 used to do, without being burdened with all this excessive and redundant software. I really don’t need any more than 2-4 inputs, because I’m muti-tracking everything myself. My new PC does have Thunderbolt 3 capability which I love the idea of, but I read that several people were having issues with it, and were barking over the fact that it’s not supported on Windows 10. Do you have any suggestions for an interface that will work well for my situation? Thank you for your video and time.

My current setup is a the new Mac Pro, Apollo twin, and Logic Pro X. I’ve never had DSP issues. Even when I use my MacBook Pro to track/mix. Then again I’m not recording a band.

I’m still keeping my 18i20 2nd gen and a 2012 Mac mini i7 16gig ram I upgraded, i don’t find any problem with it ,my clients are paying me for results not status hyped equipments 😂. Thank you sir for this vid, always gives me a reason not to waste money.

very informative info this man needs more views !

HD, or HDX processing for latency is one of those things you don't really appreciate until you're not using it. Also, since this is built specifically for Pro Tools, there's no extra mixer panel like other 3rd party interface units. The I/O mixer panel is right in the Pro Tools software. For those 2 reasons alone, I'm giving this serious consideration.

Dude I forgot about that te hnique so awesome great work around that is brilliant.

if you’re an artist, you’re creating as your recording, mixing, doing processing, and going back n forth between tracking and mixing. I agree with you if you’re only mixing sessions, the dsp may not be of much value, but if you’re an artist/mixer, trust me, you’re going to want dsp. Worst thing is having to get out of your creative flow, or having to drag files back because they’re out of time under low buffer rates(happens in logic and Ableton a lot). Your final statement is really what it comes down to. What’s you’re workflow? Truth is more and more people are learning to engineer, record, and mix their own music. For that specific cohort, dsp interfaces are a game changer. Also, if you’re a pop/hip hop/edm artist, dsp interfaces may be more valuable to you. Acoustic/live musicians usually only need a bit of reverb, and I remember my mbox 3 came with an onboard verb n monitor system for monitoring before the signal hits the box. I’m sure other interfaces still have something similar. But, 99% of rappers/singer I record want autotune, verb, and delay enabled for them to record comfortably, and the Apollo solo can do all that. So, it’s not necessary to have several channels for that. Lol sorry to be long winded.

Antelope Zen Go and Discrete 4SC user here and I love the sound coming out of these.

Now with folders you can track with no problem in the same sessions, make a bounce off the instrumental anda put all your tracks on one folder and disable that folder and done ✅

As far as tracking after a big mix is already going and latency is an issue, my Focusrite Clarett 8Pre allows direct monitoring (and custom mixes) straight off the interface. Granted, if you're using in-the-box processing on the track while tracking (an amp sim for example), that won't be there, but no DSP, no latency, cheaper, and sounds great!

I kinda agree but an Apollo interface running UA plugins isn’t just dsp... The unison preamps change their impedance to somewhat match the gear it’s trying to model. And I’m not sure how the converters on these compare on max sample rates. But that was a nice video, thanks!

Love your videos! I would have loved to hear your opinion of the Focusrite RED series against these.

I hace recently acquired an AVID Carbon and I am very happy. I am coming from the DIGI003 which I really enjoyed and was able to produce hundreds of tracks over the course of about 17 years. Unfortunately, the DIGI003 has reached it end of life (mine is in perfect condition) because it is no longer supported. I am a professional and need professional tools. I have been a Pro Tools user for more than 20 years. I tried a less expensive interface but found it difficult to have that interface and its' routing matrix between ProTools and myself. I am currently working on my first project which will be a large session. So far the Carbon has worked perfectly.

I can only say ... WOW! .. Great!

Thank you for your intelligent and thoughtful video. I use an Apogee Ensemble Thunderbolt 2. It does have DSP and a suite of high-quality plugins are available. I never use them. It also has a great little desk control unit with a nice big knob and great functionality for monitoring and control. I have an old MOTU 2408 that I use for synths with 8 line inputs via ADAT. There's also another ADAT for more IO, I have a few pieces of gear that will work well with that as well. Plus SPDIF. That's a ton of inputs. When I bought it in 2017 with rebates etc.. it was well under 2k and is a serious professional piece of gear that's expandable. The only thing I would want to use DSP for is tracking with mic pre emulation, but I'd still want to use a high-end hardware mic pre for vocals. There is a difference that is audible to me even in the best emulations from UA. It's obvious even in their videos. It would be nice if the Apogee had a mic pre emulation to track with the onboard DSP of the Ensemble.

The difference between UAD and Carbon is that the AAX DSP plugins have a native counter part. Which makes it so much better because you can go back and forth with in the protools mixer. You don’t even need your carbon to continue on with your mix. As long as you are happy with the AAX Dsp offerings you are good.

Great video!

Thank you! thank you! thank you.

My Focusrite interface has 8 preamps, and was only $500, it does more than I need, but I wanted to have the option for tracking drums if I’m in that situation.

I have an apollo twin. The playback is really nice. So the great sound makes me work longer. That's just playback though. Did I see a huge uptick in spins on Spotify from using it? No. The best way to improve your sound is practice.

What about the MOTU 8PreES? It’s got the same converter chip as Apogee it has Thunderbolt like the Apogee and has AVB just like the Carbon. And it’s at least a Grand less than any of those! (Not to mention amazing dynamic range & talkback etc.)

What interface can i buy so i can be able to track with plugins with 0 latency ? Just like the apollo, i dont want to buy the apollo because i already have all waves plugins and if i buy the apollo i will have to buy uad plugins to abe able to track with plugins because apollo only works uad plugins.

i personaly think that small DSP powered Interface (2/2 or 4/4) is nice if your a small Band or Artist Audio or Video and you need the effects Live and maybe on the go to record jam sessions and you need some effekts, Vocal Processing or amp sims in the monitor or the recording. pod Casters and Streamers can use it the same way ..... but bedroom small studio i dont see the use for 1he rack interface or bigger with an expensive DSP. for the professionals they if they have the need for they will use it

What about Slate vrs8 brother? I have 3 of them expanding to 5

about that recording in the middle of a mix. You can just keep the HW buffer at 1024 and turn off monitoring from pro tools and turn on monitor from your interface. (idk if this is correct but works for me)

I bought carbon - I love it. The conversion alone makes it worth every bit of 4k. I get what you are saying about DSP - you don't need it if you have a fast computer. DSP (IMHO) is more of a marketing scheme used by interface manufacturers to force their users to yield more of the company's products. Digidesign/Avid has been working on DSP for years, and while their approaches are not the best, if you think about it - other manufacturers only answer for DSP is that you use an outside software to record in zero latency...I as a software user am not really interested in using another sofware to record in zero latecy.

It’s a latency issue. Personally I notice the difference with Dsp latency vs native latency. Even if the buffer is 64. I just find it much easier to record with sub 1 ms latency. It just feels better.

What a great video. I’m an IT director and manage AV engineers. Why would I buy an interface with a full computer to run internal dsp when average computer chips are faster and more powerful than any UA, AVID... interface. I replace computers every 5 years because they become EOL or obsolete from the current tech. Maybe high end studios are fine replacing $4k interfaces every 5 years, but I don’t plan to in my professional field or in my personal studio. Don’t be fooled and locked into proprietary hardware just to be stuck. It’s all about being flexible. Spent the money on I/Os, preamps and thunderbolt/pcie with extreme low latency. Leave the dsp to the computer that you can afford to upgrade every 5 years. IMHO I don’t want to be locked into one ecosystem....plus the price difference can by a lot of nice outboard pres or compressors that sound way better than regurgitated plugins of the same coding in square waveforms. To each their own and just stay creative. Music first, tech second!

Exporting and manually re recording is always the best way to just get it done. Real time

I'm a carbon user, and I'll tell you I love it. Its eliminated the need for a monitor controller, talkback system, and external hardware. The DSP included works great with the BF stuff for larger tracking sessions, and the PA stuff for smaller sessions. it comes with ultimate perpetual, which is 2700 alone. It sounds expensive, but for what you get, its bang for the buck all the way. Couldn't be happier!

I just bought a MOTU M4, it´s a fantastic interface.

Great aproach! I would add: why buying an apple computer when you can build a super powerful PC (with much more procesing power than a Mac) with less than half money? Just a thought. I work with PC with i7...32gb ram 3200... and NEVER had a problem (even loading lots of vsts). Never had a compatibility problem, I think it's time to let go the Mac-god myth, it's in the past.

Fantastic video! Easy to understand 😌 Musician here 🎵🎵

I know this segment posted months ago, but Antelope Audio just released the Zen Go. If you are having this conversation, this interface seemed like a logical next step for me from my first interface, the Presonus Audiobox USB 96. The Audiobox was an incredible value and entry into digital recording... for me.

I think also a lot of people need to understand specs on these devices because manufacturers can market those with all the glam in the world and when you understand specs and see in detail you can realize that most of the time is a very expensive junk!

Latency and sound quality overall are so much more important than dsp's or cpu. I think it's more a trend of having dsp's make you a more pro producer/songwriter, since pro studios had used them for decades. But that's because computers weren't powerful enough or ordinary plugins hadn't the quality needed.

This is the first time I've seen one of your videos.. so I don't know if I'm just on another planet or something... First, thus far I haven't been able to get a computer that's powerful enough for me. I make electronic music.. so it might be that virtual instruments + signal processing is the reason.. but it's enough of an issue that I'm always eyeing the DSP.. and thinking waves sound grid versus UAD. I have, on an ancient computer, an Apogee Ensemble MK1.. and the thing I sorta don't like is that it means I have to be on an Apple computer. I prefer Apples.. but there are reasons why it might, from time to time, make sense for me to have windows systems in my work, and so that's a little bit of an issue. I'm working with a lot of hardware electronic musical instruments.. and a drum machine like my DSI Tempest.. that thing could take up 14 channels all on it's own.. so I need a lot of i/o, but I'm not sure I need full on mic pres for that. I THINK, in practice, I'm usually recording one or two channels at a time.. but then sometimes need a tun of i/o. So it might make sense to have a set up where I put a lot into those 2 channels.. and go with a more affordable approach for when I'm recording a whole lot at once. I don't know why I would go with Pro Tools versus another DAW. Right now I'm digital performer, ableton, and reason. I've been thinking about going with Cubase because I'm interested in VR audio.. and it's so expensive on pro tools.. I'm even thinking about atmos.. Err at the atmos level I'd be looking at Nuendo obviously.. Right now I'm thinking about going for something sorta cheap, that can do iOS.. to get me through for a while.. while I try and live on a PC laptop.. and for that there's a MOTU interface that will work.. both via usb and Ethernet.. I've had good luck with the reliability of MOTU anyway... I have an original motu 828.. and they have the additional benefit that you can use them for control voltages with modular. Another thing is the UAD have them special preamps in them.. where they can do the emulations. I don't know how valuable that would be to me in practice. If all this isn't enough to be considering, I've been thinking about mixers.. the sorta that will function as multi channel interfaces. In the idea is that I might invest in a number of, mostly, analog boxes for processing.. and it would give me additional flexibility in signal routing.. and whatever.. using effects sends and what not.. plus it might be a cheaper way to get a lot of i/o... and I like the idea of the hands on side.. there's a lot of electronic music stuff one mind do where you use a mixer as if it were instrument.. so there's that at as well. There, mostly analog, signal processing boxes I'm looking at tend to average somewhere around $500.. so it's not like what we normally talk about for studio outboard.. but the question of getting some nice studio outboard.. especially just for that nice couple of channels of i/o.. and at what point I should be considering that.. is a question in my mind as well. My default thought is that I want to get a number of synths together before I worry about any sorta outboard.. but I do play electric guitar in a rather rock to metal kinda way.. and have been thinking something in the neve style might be important at some point.. and maybe I should do that sooner then latter.. or it's just not real clear how I should priorities it, really... and sometimes I think the UAD pre emulation.. might be a decent stop gap.. or something. Also, there are brainworks stuff on UAD, and a couple of other 3rd parties?

Not that I can afford it but thanks! It's always great to learn new things.

The UAD apollo needs an awfull lot of money to buy their plugins apart from whatever money is quoted for their interface in itself. All that would definitely add up to more than what the pro tools carbon would cost. I found that the Antelope discreet 8 is more of the best of both worlds in terms of better converters and loads of dsp plugins and the icing on the top is that it is much more affordable. Apogee ensemble is the gold standard in terms of the sound quality. Any way thanks brother for this video. I myself has got an apollo silverface and i must admit that it was not a good decision. I should have invested in RME or Antelope...but alas....

I just saw this video. In my humble opinion. This is why I use a console and outboard gear. I am a PC user and I used a lot of third party plugin companies. Slate, IK Multimedia T Racks Max. Acustica Audio, and a lot of others. The buffer speed between the computer and the interface will always be an issue. but there is zero latency monitoring on a console. Most people do not want to deal with the maintenance and weight of a console. The only reason the most expensive large format consoles breakdown is because they are never turned off and are being used 24 7 all day long everyday. Any thing will break down if put through that kind of use. I have no issues with plug ins because I incorporate outboard gear and a mixer as part of my work flow. It makes it a whole lot less stressful on my PC and the combination of analog gear makes the mixes sound bigger, warmer, and more satisfying. Just my 2 cents worth. As far as a interface. I tell anyone, don't feel you have to use UAD plugins. they are not the holy grail of plugins.. Slate, waves, Brainworks, Plugin alliance, IK Multimedia, Soundtoys, and many others, to include some nice free ones, will work amazingly. Its not the plugins that makes mixes sound good, its the knowledge of the engineer knowing how to use plugins the same way he/she would know how to use real outboard gear that is going to make the difference.

Please I want to know if audio interface preamp sound better than digital mixers and why studios buy expensive interface which is almost the price of a digital mixing console

Hey! Do you know if the Mac Mini can be used as an external DSP processor for multiple brands of DSP plugins, including the UAD ones? Or do you know of an external DSP that can run both UAD and other brands? Or would you just have to have a UAD processor from them, as well as one that would work for the other brands? Ideally, it'd be great if we can set up a Mac Mini as the DSP in conjunction with an iMac for example. Not sure if this is possible though...?

Metric Halo +DSP graphs and building blocks

UA now comes with Heritage Edition plugins. So, if you buy multiple interfaces (or have the plugins already), you paying for nothing, right?

I’m a vocalist and would just be mixing a few vocals takes to a already completed mp3 instrumentals [ I buy beats online] my question is if I need DSP for this Antares autotune, and the basics You know compression eq and reverb etc.. I’m going for a simple natural sound. Well I was told to do this I HAD to get a Apollo because of the autotune because the latency would be too bad to use and I’d have to turn on the compression eq reverb AFTER I record the vocals and put in post But then someone else says get a motu m2 instead it’s round trip is 2.50ms latency and will work Lastly I have a 2012 MacBook Pro i5 processor 256ssd. I’m not sure who to listen to I can only make this choice once.

Tell me your opinion about the antelope audio interfaces for example the zen go or the zen q? Is universal audio better than antelope in terms of sound quality? 🤔 Please help. thank you

What is your opinion about Merging’s audio interface?? And, what do you think about Digital Audio Denmark Audio converters??

Great video and Info I don’t have an interface and my budget is $1500 I was thinking of buying the UA Apollo X 4 I’m singer songwriter and I play guitar . What do you suggest?

I see that you upgraded your mac mini RAM through means outside of apple. Do you mind sharing/recommending that method? I'm looking to upgrade the RAM and SSD on my Macbook Pro.

DSP helps me capture the best moments quickly . Only get it if you track regularly tho

Studio One!!!

Apollo Expanded (chaining devices) and the Apogee equivalent were not available right out of the gate. Avid included a second ethernet jack for a reason. this thing is less than a week old- i’m sure we will see the intended expansion at some point in the near future. would be great if they made an additional mic pre/IO box or some sort of multichannel headphone mixer distribution hub.

Ok so I’m in a big dilemma. PLEASE HELP!!! It’s a complicated situation I got sick of apple and built a pc late last year. But my Apollo doesn’t run and I miss logic, If I said screw Mac and tried to make everything work on PC, what interface would you suggest In order to get as high quality or close to as UAD? Here’s my options - I can sell my LA 610 and my Apollo UAD and invest that both into an interface for my pc that will run smoothly on something like pro tools (which I’d have to buy and re learn (last used PT 7 with a 003 rack control + lol) or get something like a Mac mini now and upgrade to a X4 later - perk being I get to use Logic (my most familiar DAW) if I go Mac route Should I invest in the M1 Mac mini or a mini similar to yours if I do? Here’s a little background. I’ve been an audio engineer and hip hop artist for 17 and my company ABUVEGROUND - does content and marketing - makes most of its money off audio and video editing. I have a pretty decent audio set up. UAD duo (the FW with TB1 card installed) Lawson L-47 for music vocals, shure sm7b for podcasting/voice overs, I also have a LA 610, Adam A7 speakers, technique 1200s and a Rane 72. I’m a little bit obsessed with audio gear and ive worked hard to my ideal set up. I was running that on a MBP 2015 2.2 ghz i7 with 16 gigs of ram. It started becoming to slow for my audio and not even close to what I needed for video. Over heating ect. So I built my first PC last year. Thing is a beast - i9 9990k, 1080 ti, 32 gigs of ram, 370z with TB 3, m2 drive - all the bells and whistles. But... UAD doesn’t support TB1 for windows.... so I go out and buy a UAD Apollo x4. Works great but... doesn’t work with zoom/google hang outs (very important for my job), discord, games, ect I did finally almost figure a work around using virtual cables and voicemeeter But it wasn’t perfect and the process annoyed the F out of me. I missed things “just working” on Mac as they say. So I return the UAD after 14 days before I’m stuck with it. Realized my Rane 72 dj mixer has a built in audio interface (sort of) that actually works in my daws and zoom/work stuff. But the latency is god awful and the only reason it sounds decent is because I’m running it through my LA 610 - which is redundant with the UAD plugs... the plug ins are that good. So I said f it. I’ll buy a Mac mini with these M1 chips and just use it for audio I’ll use my pc for gaming and video editing. But UAD isn’t supported on M1 chips yet. What the hell do I do... I know people will just say buy a new Mac but the Mac equivalent for the pc I built would cost 8k. It’s stupid. But I do feel like audio just works better on macs. Any help would be greatly appreciated I’m about to lose my mind honestly if you can’t tell.

what about RME, Lynx and Antelope??

Completly agree. Learning mixing are not good business as plugins hype is.

Freeze Functions (logic does as I imagine other daws do) is easier for your workaround.

DSP is so misunderstood by so many,.. As DSP plugs is are code, Also is Native. With fast machines today, it becomes a non-issue.... ... People are just buying into an ecosystem of overpriced plugs... And here it is... As you are aware of, HDX is not the same..... When the mixing engine is handled by DSP, (luna.. not the same) , we a talking a industry standard , a DAW front end to literally a digital mixing desk... Its entirely different.... Not that most need a HDX system, but theres a reason why it still is untouched in the Pro world. Fact. Ill never go the DSP route for a native based DAW. Not today.15 years ago? maybe. The most important thing, good convertors and pres.. RME, Antelope , Apogee, UAD... ect ect.... (2 x Apogee Firewire ensembles on a Mac Pro 4.1>5.1 and still dont need DSP...mwhahahahahaha)

I cannot take advice from someone that is terrible with maths 😂😂 just kidding man , great content

Is the Avid Carbon’s dsp only usable in Pro Tools?

what you already have is probably not crap, it depends on how you use it

why not freeze tracks so you can drop the buffer?

it's like I am seating in a church. Great insights to run a successful business. Thank you!

I have a question: Who mixed the audio in your video and set the levels of the intro music and the voice audio in the rest of the video? Did you do it? Or did some intern do it?

Avid would like to have a word with you! And seriously? Seriously? You couldn't wait until AFTER THANKSGIVING to start putting up Christmas decorations? Let me guess, you had them up before Halloween?

Why would big studios use Avid and not just use native computers?

Presonus Quantum Thunderbolt 2. No DSP, with Xmax RECALLABLE / AUTO-SWITCHING / TRUE BYPASS / INDIVIDUAL phantom power mic pres for only $1,000. Black lion mod available as well.

but...but...but...shiny objects man. We must buy all the shiny objects! What would happen to our happiness, and the economy, if we only buy what we need?

Working on my craft is my aim. I'm so tired of the hype.. I have gotten great results out of my 18i20 2nd gen

Ethernet to me beats all interface communication. Because it's fast enough and works a across all computers, PC. Mac, Chromebook, Linux. Ethernet is like the grand universal heavyweight champion of being the best protocol.

The single biggest reason for having DSP is latency. Forget plugins, if you want ultra-low latency, you have 2 options. Option 1 - Onboard DSP. Option 2 - VT-x / VT-d Virtualization environment that allows DIRECT access to CPU lanes for processing resulting in inaudible latency at higher sample rates. So in conclusion - if you do any kind of audio recording, especially with multiple channels simultaneously, and do not want to hear any latency, you either stay with a Intel based mac/pc which will give you low latency by way of VT-x, or if you're going to buy an M1 mac soon, you have no choice but to get DSP.

The Avid Carbon might just be the best interface around right now.

PRO TOOLS HDX EVER !!!!!

I had thecApollo. Sold it. Bad sounding. Now I have the Carbon. Much better sound.

Protools WAS the "industry standard". 😉 And yes, knowing to use what you actualy have is often better than buying new things.

I'm just waiting on whoever makes a server to process any plugins. That will get my money.

moved to apollo recently, its good but I am not evangelical about it. I used apogee before and was happy with them and only jumped ship because they discontinued Element88 and you can't resize the software mixer (wtf apogee?!!!!). At the end of the day computer processing power beats seven shades of shit out of any DSP in terms or power/£. sorry $. You also get to use it for any native plugin etc. Not being a pro I also get to use that power for other computer things. Apollo plugs are expensive compared to slate etc....

Focusrite RED

Btw the M1 chip is a game changer.

Zero latency is worth the money

Today's BIGGEST piece of crap system is still light years ahead of what the Beatles recorded ANY of their albums on. Technology has come so far that most of it is just HYPE!!! Use what makes you feel good BUT don't get caught in the tech marketing trap. NO ONE WILL EVER EVER HEAR THE DIFFERENCE!!!!! ITS A GIMMICK!!!

I think DSP is overrated, I could be wrong just my opinion. Computers and plugins today are incredibly efficient especially being 64 bit. Plus most of these DAW’s are power hungry to begin with. I know it’s not the prettiest but I switched to Reaper and it’s incredibly powerful and efficient. Stock plugins are great too. Again, not the prettiest interface but who cares? Your ears are the most important tool plus I don’t get Pro Tools PTSD as much anymore lol

We are getting to a point where CPUs are going to be capable of processing real time audio even in a large session with near zero latency, we are not there yet so having DSP is going to be viable for the near future. Avid HDX + Avid I/O + AAX DSP Plugins Pro Tools Carbon (Includes Hardware + Software) Antelope Audio I/O + AFX plug-ins + AFX2DAW + DAW UAD Apollo I/O + Plugins + DAW Waves SoundGrid DSP + I/O + DAW Slate Digital VRS8 Presonus Quantum From the spec the Carbon looks really good, quad A2D converters, variable Z, quad independent discrete headphone amps. Black lion would approve. What we need is an open industry standard for hybrid onboard/native DSP, a ‘VST’ hybrid format for onboard DSP and native DSP. Intel bought Altera who develop FPGAs, we might find in the future INTEL SOCs integrated with CPU+GPU+FPGA+MEMORY

Apogee has no dsp.

Who cares about latency when you can direct monitor via your interface?

Bro your intro is too loud…

Only need dsp when you have a big session. Me as a windows user 🥲