Thunderbarges

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LegendofTotalWar

LegendofTotalWar

Ай бұрын

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@i.k.2485
@i.k.2485 Ай бұрын
"Kirov reporting!"
@holdinmcgroin8639
@holdinmcgroin8639 Ай бұрын
Warp-gas mix, optimal
@SpaceTalon
@SpaceTalon Ай бұрын
"Oh, look, there's your house... let's pay a visit!"
@andregon4366
@andregon4366 Ай бұрын
Hell March kicks in.
@MrSpectruElegiac
@MrSpectruElegiac Ай бұрын
You are a man of culture.
@khankhomrad8855
@khankhomrad8855 Ай бұрын
Ahh! The sounds of destruction!
@wursthaendler2825
@wursthaendler2825 Ай бұрын
Menace Below can't hurt you if you never touch the ground
@heygek2769
@heygek2769 Ай бұрын
This is the Menace Above.
@blizzi8428
@blizzi8428 Ай бұрын
Lmfao true​@@heygek2769
@IYIENACE
@IYIENACE Ай бұрын
@@heygek2769 Mhm
@AMZ16
@AMZ16 Ай бұрын
​@@IYIENACEMhm
@andreasb1771
@andreasb1771 Ай бұрын
uuuhh. like isabella can't bite you if you're on fire
@birdofgrey6542
@birdofgrey6542 Ай бұрын
This is literally the fire nation's blimp army at the end of ATLA
@neon-lf-graves
@neon-lf-graves Ай бұрын
I thought the same thing lol
@Limrasson
@Limrasson Ай бұрын
No, because this one is actually effective.
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 Ай бұрын
@@Limrasson The Fire Nation blimp fleet would have been effective if it hadn´t been attacked from both outside and inside by TEAM AVATAR! Remember they were going up against the Earth Kingdom, there were no anti-air capacities even remotely capable of dealing with even a single of their air ships. Plus Sozin´s Comet powered up all the Fire Benders as well.
@Limrasson
@Limrasson Ай бұрын
@@sim.frischh9781 You would be right, if they were in the Earth Kingdom. They were not. They went from the Fire Nation to the main continent and started burning some rocks and maybe some trees. There were 16 blimps if I'm not mistaken. Even with modern blimp speed and ignoring the fact that firebenders spew fire into the direction they are moving (the firebenders don't yeet themselves either), they wouldn't have done much by the time the comet leaves. And yes all the other firebenders were powered up. We've got 2 amazing scenes (liberation of Ba Sing Se and the final Agni Kai), however apparently every fire nation soldier not on the blimps sits the comet out too. The Dawi are better firebenders than the firebenders.
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 Ай бұрын
@@Limrasson My point was that all those failings would not have made the blimps ineffective. Certainly not on the level of the Thunderbarge since they didn´t have cannons, but they DID have bombs and Fire Benders who are not as far reaching yet still a real threat. And if you watch the map you see that pretty much all that main continent IS Earth Kingdom.
@azzik9931
@azzik9931 Ай бұрын
Imagine being a skaven and thinking "Yeah, let's ambush-attack 17 thunderbarges" 💀
@FrogFace64
@FrogFace64 Ай бұрын
They'd be too busy squirting their musk of fear everywhere
@joffrecordan
@joffrecordan Ай бұрын
I think that if you came across this in a skaven campaign and ambushed it, that'd be your best bet. You'd need to use a couple versions of the warpstorm spell to lock down the barges and focus all of your weapons teams on killing the lord and his two heroes to trigger a boots-on-the-ground win. Is that still a thing in TWW3?
@zairok6194
@zairok6194 Ай бұрын
Honestly sounds like a very skaven thing to do
@taiho5233
@taiho5233 Ай бұрын
@@joffrecordan boots on the ground is still a thing as far as i remember.
@RabbiHerschel
@RabbiHerschel Ай бұрын
In the books they try it on the Spirit of Grungi, which is a lot tougher in the books than it is in the game.
@dudeimjames3638
@dudeimjames3638 Ай бұрын
1 wrong made right, but the Great Book of Grudges remains full.
@BlackHawk21ification
@BlackHawk21ification Ай бұрын
it's 2 now, 1st was the canon doomstack.
@GutsOfRivia
@GutsOfRivia Ай бұрын
This is basically just bringing in a stack of AC-130s while your enemy only has bows and muskets.
@followeroftzeentch8060
@followeroftzeentch8060 Ай бұрын
From WW2 to WW1 and people complain we dont have historical TW game anymore 😂
@oscarstaszky1960
@oscarstaszky1960 Ай бұрын
well said, follower of Tzeentch...
@hb42-
@hb42- Ай бұрын
I love how the gyrocopters noped right out of there at 3:54
@landeler8888
@landeler8888 Ай бұрын
They were like : "Fuck that, gonna settle some grudges elsewhere"
@aramenus6018
@aramenus6018 Ай бұрын
I wrote exact same comment, then saw yours made 10 min before, so changing mine and here's a like for you
@hb42-
@hb42- Ай бұрын
@@aramenus6018 lmao it’s all good. Definitely my favorite moment of the video. Legend says “oh you got gyrocopters?” And the gyrocopters just say “….yeah you’re right, this is dumb.”
@MrKylljoy
@MrKylljoy Ай бұрын
Ight, Imma head out
@_Uzer
@_Uzer Ай бұрын
Welcome to Estalia gentleman! I will not lie, the chances of your survival are high...
@TheDarkerBox
@TheDarkerBox Ай бұрын
Slayers on the gunship: Aw, maan..
@renedegames7219
@renedegames7219 Ай бұрын
I guess the real question is how few Thunderbarges become a 10/10 doomstack?
@jobvermuyen5382
@jobvermuyen5382 Ай бұрын
1 single thunderbarge lol
@quint3ssent1a
@quint3ssent1a Ай бұрын
About 5 of them, I suppose.
@thecoolestbean4688
@thecoolestbean4688 Ай бұрын
Probably like 3
@Dewmuss
@Dewmuss Ай бұрын
Even just 1 completely skyrockets the strength of the army in battle to the stratosphere
@glens18account
@glens18account Ай бұрын
like 3 it seems
@LadyCorvia
@LadyCorvia Ай бұрын
i love that when that first spear of grugni missed it actually hit a different hero and took one third of his health und you didnt even notice XD
@XraynPR
@XraynPR Ай бұрын
"And regardless ... we have one advantage that zhey sorely lack: ZEPPELINS!!"
@lazaruslong697
@lazaruslong697 Ай бұрын
Party, party, party!
@will9501
@will9501 Ай бұрын
I was looking before i posted this, I knew someone else in the fanbase would be present.
@bificommander7472
@bificommander7472 Ай бұрын
Castle Drakenhof is burning. Und so are my loins.
@SofaMuncher
@SofaMuncher Ай бұрын
Dwarfs, the "technologically advanced" faction, have been falling behind in the arms race to almost everyone from day one. Then the dwarfs woke up one day, and said: "alright, it's time to show these wazzocks how its done".
@XzFrogz
@XzFrogz Ай бұрын
Literally building a WMD in secret, their own manhattan project
@sercravenmohead3631
@sercravenmohead3631 Ай бұрын
The way it’s explained in the lore is Dwarf craftsmanship is the best but it’s really slow at innovation, Skaven has crazy tech even space travel and cellphones but it’s very unreliable tech that often blows up where as the dwarfs are refined and make good quality.
@ValentinoMarino11
@ValentinoMarino11 Ай бұрын
I’m glad we’re finally just starting to see their more “wacky” inventions.
@Lones555
@Lones555 Ай бұрын
"Dwarfs are a dwindling race". I think now we know why, dwarf on dwarf violence has to stop!
@em688
@em688 Ай бұрын
Well maybe they shouldn't have wronged us.
@Vogelmaster
@Vogelmaster Ай бұрын
fr they are so short tempered o:
@Gerojsk
@Gerojsk Ай бұрын
@@Vogelmaster SHORT?!
@Kiwi-pd5mk
@Kiwi-pd5mk Ай бұрын
@@Vogelmaster Short?! ahhhh that's a fuckin' grudgin'!
@elpaya7775
@elpaya7775 Ай бұрын
"our team is being reinforced with 18 airships "
@dennisleibkuechler254
@dennisleibkuechler254 Ай бұрын
Thunderbarg against Thunderbarg is the closest Thing we will ever get to a Naval battel in Warhammer Fantasie xD
@bagel76
@bagel76 Ай бұрын
Necrofex vs Landship
@devnull1200
@devnull1200 Ай бұрын
You finally found something more redundantly OP that that old Lord of Change stack you reviewed back in it's day
@Sinistaire
@Sinistaire Ай бұрын
"Kharadron Overlords are from AoS and didn't exist in the Old World, they can't hurt you!" Kharadron Overlords:
@Remanada1
@Remanada1 Ай бұрын
Yknow maybe the dwarfs had a point trying to exile Malaki
@alistairbolden6340
@alistairbolden6340 Ай бұрын
Hes better off as an Empire dwarf.
@Remanada1
@Remanada1 Ай бұрын
@alistairbolden6340 Dwarfs: your weapons will bring about horror beyond our comprehension, get out. Humans: your weapons will bring forth horror beyond our comprehension, get in!
@ValentinoMarino11
@ValentinoMarino11 Ай бұрын
@@Remanada1It’s unbelievable. There are Longbeards who STILL think that thunderers are unnecessary and unreliable. Talk about slow to adapt, damn.
@ak6427
@ak6427 Ай бұрын
Wow, a unit of such epic op proportions even legend uses mostly cinematic mode to watch. Impressive.
@hai.nguyen995
@hai.nguyen995 Ай бұрын
CA: Traits farming is OP, must nerf Also CA: I guess SoC flopped so hard they had to crank the OP counter to 11 for new DLCs
@Ron_Jambo_
@Ron_Jambo_ Ай бұрын
Chaos Dwarfs are still the most overpowered at launch DLC they've ever released. Best missile infantry, best artillery, best LL, best single entity flying monsters... Dwarfs deserved a buff they have been the weakest race for years
@j.jbinks9669
@j.jbinks9669 Ай бұрын
How did they nerf trait farming?
@futhington
@futhington Ай бұрын
@@j.jbinks9669 They put a cap on how many you can actually farm, but IIRC it's quite high anyway.
@gloubiboulgathefirst5784
@gloubiboulgathefirst5784 Ай бұрын
@@j.jbinks9669 I think it’s when they limited the number of traits your lords can get to something like 40, and each time you fight a new race it adds a new unremovable trait against the race that is hidden until completion, so it’s super hard to have desired trait without attaining the cap
@dog209
@dog209 Ай бұрын
Dwarfs sucked for like 7 years lmao let them have their time in the sun lmao
@_KroW_
@_KroW_ Ай бұрын
You could give a toddler this doomstack and still no army wouldn't be able to beat it
@RogerCillion
@RogerCillion Ай бұрын
Todd-ler 😂
@kacperdrabikowski5074
@kacperdrabikowski5074 Ай бұрын
While technically flying melee SEs could maybe do something, Thunderburner exists. And with 90 speed base you can outrun most flyers, and those few you can't outrun will be unable to attack you anyway, since flying melee forces the fighters to stop in place, while the barge can keep running away and blasting. And there is the Spear...
@-tn-kitten8067
@-tn-kitten8067 Ай бұрын
The only thing I can think of that might be able to fight this under the right conditions is a maxed out Imrik + dragon stack and some spellcaster that can imobilize the thunderbarge, but i don't know how you would keep the spellcaster alive long enough.
@olafthemoose9413
@olafthemoose9413 Ай бұрын
Thunderbarges can straight up just fly away from a bloodthirster in normal speed and air vs air combat jank will make the barge near invincible.
@diegosrvin4332
@diegosrvin4332 Ай бұрын
​@@-tn-kitten8067you can harpoon Imrik out of the sky pretty easily with the special ability. And the dragons won't be much an issue either with just kiting them. Maybe if you brought 2 full dragon spams
@darthplagueis13
@darthplagueis13 Ай бұрын
You'd need flying melee AND a net spell.
@The_Murder_Party
@The_Murder_Party Ай бұрын
@@darthplagueis13you need the net too- the anti-air spells like tempest don’t stop them, they still move at like 60
@Cleanrotknight456
@Cleanrotknight456 Ай бұрын
Finally, the doomostack of barges
@anguskirwan5294
@anguskirwan5294 Ай бұрын
I think leadership debuff stacks would still beat it because they aren't unbreakable, but yeah in terms of traditional stuff it is stupid strong.
@chrish.4701
@chrish.4701 Ай бұрын
Skaven: We're making an ambush! Dwarves: We have thunderbarkes...
@tfbuffalo8550
@tfbuffalo8550 Ай бұрын
This is definitely the most "war crime aesthetic" doomstack I've ever seen
@matthew3009
@matthew3009 Ай бұрын
Nah, skaven mustard-bombers are more warcrimey
@aramenus6018
@aramenus6018 Ай бұрын
We waited for Thunderbarges since WH:1, and boy is it worth it
@adriankoch964
@adriankoch964 Ай бұрын
Every patch since release that Dawi did not get the Thunderbarge, it received 1 buff.
@olafthemoose9413
@olafthemoose9413 Ай бұрын
You can probably achieve most things 17 thunderbarges can do with 4 thunderbarges.
@darkomihajlovski3135
@darkomihajlovski3135 Ай бұрын
5 barges beat everything any more is just speeding up the process
@mattdeyell8151
@mattdeyell8151 Ай бұрын
Flying melee units don't kill thunderbarge either. If you put on the afterburner they are too fast for melee animation to hit.
@mrswb
@mrswb Ай бұрын
I remember i was playing as Malakai and went up against a slaanesh settlment with a garrisoned lord. Auto resolve said id lose a barge. Against Slaanesh. The only two things that could damage them was a single unit of furies and the magic of the lvl 1 lord. And autoresolve said id lose a thunderbarge.
@olafthemoose9413
@olafthemoose9413 Ай бұрын
Queue Tariffs skyjunk video
@RandKin
@RandKin Ай бұрын
Auto resolve used to be drunk and needing to go home. Now, it's so high I'm surprised it can function.
@Slagtheangry
@Slagtheangry Ай бұрын
"This is the most over powered flying doomstack. Nothing can do enough damage to you in the air unless you're large single entity flyers." _-Imirik has entered the chat._
@martintieber7756
@martintieber7756 Ай бұрын
Imril seems like he'd do alright...but its pointless. They have too much hp, heal and speed. Spear of grungi will cut imrik down too. Even slowing them barely works...
@rexncaksz4506
@rexncaksz4506 Ай бұрын
Kirov reporting ...
@aaronjenkins2135
@aaronjenkins2135 Ай бұрын
Hahahaha yes! When I saw them moving together I had a flash back
@isabelleclavering4397
@isabelleclavering4397 Ай бұрын
Ah yes, Zeppelins. Famously tough aircraft that are very resistant to missile fire.
@BloodyArchangelus
@BloodyArchangelus Ай бұрын
you have magic.
@mxbubbles4753
@mxbubbles4753 Ай бұрын
3:51 the gyrocopter where like "nah, fuck that"
@amilitarymind
@amilitarymind Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Sallafar
@Sallafar Ай бұрын
The only complaint i have about the Thunderbarges is that the Spirit Of Grugni should be in size more akin to the Hindenburg, than a... let's call it "Recreational Blimp" xD
@radix2830
@radix2830 Ай бұрын
This is the final battle of Avatar the last Airbender.
@florianstraub72
@florianstraub72 Ай бұрын
Yea and your the fire nation without an team avatar opposing you.
@chrish.4701
@chrish.4701 Ай бұрын
That's marvellous! Here is the video of the thunderbarke doomstack. I knew it was coming soon. It's about time all the grudges were finally settled.
@Meyna86
@Meyna86 Ай бұрын
The Thunderbarge is like a bastard child of an Apache helicopter and an AC-130...
@Lethoras
@Lethoras Ай бұрын
I love the thunderbarge and I hope it doesn't get nerfed too bad. Because this is an endgame unit. By the time you get it your campaign is mostly won.
@Eclipsed_Embers
@Eclipsed_Embers Ай бұрын
personally I hope that it doesn't get outright nerfed at all but it definitely needs a multiplayer cost increase. 2800 for a Thunderbarge is absurd. they should cost at least as much as a Dread Saurian (3100), probably more than the Shredder of Lustria (3700). 4000-4500 feels like a good range. if they do nerf it in campaign I hope that nerf is mostly just a unit cap (1 Thunderbarge per tier 5 engineer building). only actual nerfing I feel like they need at all is that their afterburner should probably deal a bit more damage.
@fcon2123
@fcon2123 Ай бұрын
@@Eclipsed_Embers Afterburner needs to be removed entirely. It's completely unnecessary.
@SunlessSage
@SunlessSage Ай бұрын
​@@fcon2123 It's kinda fitting, but the penalty it inflicts is too small. The more you use it in battle, the more the self-damage it inflicts should go up.
@olafthemoose9413
@olafthemoose9413 Ай бұрын
Personally I hope that the base version get's nerfed big time but yiu can buff the hell out of it and add new abilities and stuff for it in the skill and tech trees.
@futhington
@futhington Ай бұрын
@@Eclipsed_Embers There's sorta no cost where it's functionally balanced is the thing, it's so degenerate in a lot of matchups and even factions that have tools to work against it will have to centre their builds around doing so. You basically have to cost it so high it's soft-banned or nerf it. Personally I'd mainly just slash the afterburner buff to give it 50-60 speed not 90 and knock off like 60 armour (it's a big goddamn balloon for crying out loud) and that might make it appropriate, if still hard to deal with for the likes of Slaanesh.
@JonathanParsons.
@JonathanParsons. Ай бұрын
Every LOTW video intro: "Ledgendototawahere, today we have..."
@jerubaal101
@jerubaal101 Ай бұрын
Totoro?
@fonariuz141
@fonariuz141 Ай бұрын
and the fact you also have the spirit of grungi which is just an extra more powerfull one
@The_Murder_Party
@The_Murder_Party Ай бұрын
They’re not even weak to single flying entities, the way the thunder burner works doesn’t deal a relevant amount of damage, applies despite storm spells, (moving at like 60-70 speed inside a tempest) and outruns blood-thirsters, while shooting.
@connorparfrey9191
@connorparfrey9191 Ай бұрын
Another thing to note is that malakais army get the benefit of liquid fortification once you upgrade his hordes mead hall for army wide hp gain anyway so even stronger than what your guessing
@drandal
@drandal Ай бұрын
Kirov reporting.
@t0xictac015
@t0xictac015 Ай бұрын
I like when he fired the Spear of Grugni at 6:15, it missed the target because he was knocked down, but impaled the guy behind him
@Knightdale
@Knightdale Ай бұрын
''Hell March'' intensifies.
@brandonjarvis1987
@brandonjarvis1987 Ай бұрын
*Fortunate Son intensifies*
@johnmeierdierks7185
@johnmeierdierks7185 Ай бұрын
Most underrated comment ever 🤣🤣
@Khalkara
@Khalkara Ай бұрын
This is the most bonkers balancing I've ever seen in any game. This 100% confirms that CA does 0 internal balance testing, they just have devs look at numbers of units already in the game and ballpark what the numbers of the new unit should be. I do wholly love the concept & execution of the Thunderbarge though, very much so.
@googleforcedhandle
@googleforcedhandle Ай бұрын
the stacks costs lke 17k gold perturn, beig serious id rather build like 4 really good armies instead of this doomstack
@comediccomrade5716
@comediccomrade5716 Ай бұрын
I mean, you don’t have to doomstack. Having like 4-5 of these in an army is plenty, and much cheaper too.
@Khalkara
@Khalkara Ай бұрын
@@googleforcedhandle I was just talking about a singular Thunderbarge, conceptually. It literally has no weakness, there's no way the AI can handle this unit. And I feel sympathy for any multiplayers who see they have queued up against Dwarfs.
@daniellipko710
@daniellipko710 Ай бұрын
​@@Khalkara An average thunderbarge is a lot more vulnerable to missiles than this video would suggest. They won't normally have 70% missile resistance
@masaheimoi
@masaheimoi Ай бұрын
"Does 0 internal balancing testing" nah, that is juts silly hyperbole. If you really think so here is one simple question: how many of units and heroes are either in D-tier or even close to same tier ad thundrrbarge? Answer: only thunderbarge. That is some really good luck to have only 1 unbalanced unit.
@ComfortingColourlessLight
@ComfortingColourlessLight 20 күн бұрын
That flame attack addition from the final skaven battle makes it so freaking fun to see
@ABODA1988
@ABODA1988 Ай бұрын
Legend, it doesn't even have to be a full stack. What you did in this video, i did the same for the Greenskin Endgame crisis with only 4 Thunderbarges!!
@AYYDIMITRI
@AYYDIMITRI Ай бұрын
Makes one think that giants should have the cygores ranged attack...
@r1pp3rr0
@r1pp3rr0 Ай бұрын
I would love to see this army against the best Warhammer 2 doomstack (imho the max Ward save Phoenix stack)
@brightestlight9462
@brightestlight9462 Ай бұрын
it isnt close, this is the most comically overpowered thing in the entirety of total war, and it isnt evem remotely close.
@PickleJello
@PickleJello Ай бұрын
This army is the most accomplished Dwarf army in history, as it managed to remove ONE full page of grudges.
@antares7382
@antares7382 Ай бұрын
Seeing this makes me really excited... for the disaster battles against thunderbarges.
@danielnewman8242
@danielnewman8242 Ай бұрын
They reallllllly really needed to sell this dlc. Couldn't risk weak new centre pieces
@Erik-ik3bc
@Erik-ik3bc Ай бұрын
I think the Thunderbarge mod balance/limitation of 1 cap per tier 5 engineer building (+ airfield tier 4), could balance this for head to head multiplayer. You need a lot of settlements at tier 5 to get this stack, or have 17 or 8 double barge strong armies.
@nogsan884
@nogsan884 Ай бұрын
I was fighting with 3 of these balloons and somehow got one to shoot the spear into another, it caused like 1/8th of damage and healed it with one use of Malakai's heal. These things are truly indestructible and I love it.
@Bolty206
@Bolty206 Ай бұрын
The only weakness I can think of regarding a Doomstack like this, is that the Thunderbarges themselves are not unbreakable, so 'in theory' the best counter to them would be to just kill/route the ground forces and then the Thunderbarges will flee away on their own. ...This is all assuming one can do that without their own army getting demolished in the process.
@user-dh7jo6cy9o
@user-dh7jo6cy9o Ай бұрын
just hide the lord
@gijskramer1702
@gijskramer1702 Ай бұрын
Before the bots of slanesh
@onchristieroad
@onchristieroad Ай бұрын
Better than the bots of Nurgle, I suppose
@paulkersey3042
@paulkersey3042 Ай бұрын
I guarantee that once the filthy thrill of this thing wears off, people will come to fucking hate this unit. It's far too unbalanced.
@volkfidde4269
@volkfidde4269 Ай бұрын
I already hate them. Of course, I refused to play steam tanks in tabletop because I felt the lore was too ridiculous.
@Xaphnir
@Xaphnir Ай бұрын
As Legend pointed out, when the AI comes at you with it it won't be at 70% missile resistance. From the look of them, when they don't have ridiculous missile resistance they might suffer from Dread Saurian syndrome: their massive size (and for them slow speed) makes missile units unusually accurate against them, making them die quickly to things far cheaper than them.
@GeneGear
@GeneGear Ай бұрын
@@Xaphnir This. CA mostly balances for multiplayer, where their cost, large size, and slow turning radius means that they are either your win condition, or your lose condition. Single-player balance is an afterthought, and it shows here.
@zikarisg9025
@zikarisg9025 Ай бұрын
Never thought I would see the debut of cinematic camera in Legends gameplay...
@frankinator7571
@frankinator7571 Ай бұрын
"Kirov reporting in" from Command and Conquer 2 just filled my ears looking at them lol
@domi8242
@domi8242 Ай бұрын
In my opinion they need to give it some serious fire weakness and make it so that if it is engaged in combat it cannot shoot to simulate a "boarding" or an aerial attack, also reduce the speed from the afterburner just a bit
@druzillakay945
@druzillakay945 Ай бұрын
Heresy, let it stay completely broken. Lmao
@nobullfarming
@nobullfarming Ай бұрын
They would need to give it melee ability in that case, otherwise it becomes helpless. If you used ranged units to shoot attackers, you'll shoot your barge as well
@druzillakay945
@druzillakay945 Ай бұрын
To be honest if CA wants to balance it for pvp fair enough, however whether or not you play dwarfs in single player broken units are cool! They suck to fight against but are fun to have a power trip with. I acknowledge that the total war multiplayer exists in a strong manner but the majority of players play campaign punishing the many in favor of the few seems stupid best to separate the change you suggest between the two or dont do it at all. Especially when you could go ghorst and break your opponent with zombies. Gotta love ghorst who can make a true doom stack of zombies
@AvodatGaming
@AvodatGaming Ай бұрын
Looks really fun, this is the type of stuff that pulls me back to the game :D
@Wulfryk
@Wulfryk Ай бұрын
Ngl, this is exactly the kind of gameplay i desire from time to time
@i_duke_on_you3672
@i_duke_on_you3672 Ай бұрын
easy balance option would be a weakness to flying tag on them, that way other lower tier flying units could easily counter this causing less thunderbarge spams and give these weak units some late game play, plus lore wise it makes sense
@sladeswanson1013
@sladeswanson1013 Ай бұрын
it still stands, the fuck the Skaven gonna do about it?
@i_duke_on_you3672
@i_duke_on_you3672 Ай бұрын
@@sladeswanson1013 skaven dlc with flying rats maybe? lol
@i_duke_on_you3672
@i_duke_on_you3672 Ай бұрын
@@sladeswanson1013 or thanquol magic spam?
@maxwhite4177
@maxwhite4177 Ай бұрын
No, cheap fliers would get blown away by its handguns long before they could ever churn through its 13k hp. It's silly how much damage it can put out even when attacked.
@i_duke_on_you3672
@i_duke_on_you3672 Ай бұрын
@@maxwhite4177 severe weakness to flying then maybe? like 5x damage. its a balloon, filled with gas, shouldn't take much to cut a few holes in it realistically speaking,
@AlexanderRiishoej
@AlexanderRiishoej Ай бұрын
AFK army 😂
@thegreatskinkpriest8104
@thegreatskinkpriest8104 Ай бұрын
I love how you’re going through the stats and abilities at the start of the battle as if they’re aren’t going to just obliterate anything they come across.
@vgf1811
@vgf1811 Ай бұрын
As an addition, the first army ability (that you get since turn 1) summons one of this babies
@druzillakay945
@druzillakay945 Ай бұрын
What a disgusting unit, i think im in love.
@trifarianboi3043
@trifarianboi3043 Ай бұрын
This unit is so broken OP that it's not even that fun. It looks sick, don't get me wrong, but they're so busted.. they have practically no weaknesses, their hitbox is broken, their armour is insane, the ammo is near infinite, the repairs just make it immortal and the spear of grungni is the most broken ability that just covers their ONE weakness. The only way it dies is by focusing your entire backline on it for the whole fight, and pray that it uses the afterburners to destroy itself.
@jamesblea3181
@jamesblea3181 Ай бұрын
I had one in an army that fought 2 warplightening cannons, jezails, and poison wind motors. All of those were focused on it and I didn't have the 25% missle resist from the mission. It was almost dead. Almost. But it took out their artiller, snipers, and weapon teams and an additional 180 rat men after
@tauIrrydah
@tauIrrydah Ай бұрын
Its like a line of star destroyers opening up all at once.
@holdinmcgroin8639
@holdinmcgroin8639 Ай бұрын
I do hope it gets nerfed, it doesn't feel right when a unit is just so stupidly overpowered against everything
@MEGABUMSTENCH
@MEGABUMSTENCH Ай бұрын
they gotta sell the DLC somehow lol
@Ceiling_Gato
@Ceiling_Gato Ай бұрын
what's the point of nerfing stuff in single player, it's not like someone is holding a gun to your head, forcing you to use doomstacks
@hknova683
@hknova683 Ай бұрын
Hope it gets nerfed and a good one. I’m the last person to call for nerfs but this is just insanity
@slayerman517
@slayerman517 Ай бұрын
Ah yes I remember reading about air raids in WWII as well, glad to see a historic reenactment
@morkaili
@morkaili Ай бұрын
I just love the Thunderbarge, it is exactly as described in the lore, above all with Malakai's faction.
@grandmasteryogurt8108
@grandmasteryogurt8108 Ай бұрын
You can just tell how much fun legend was having from using these guys 😂
@devinrogerson3035
@devinrogerson3035 Ай бұрын
I'm excited to make a combo between these and a few MK2s (Original Thunderbarge Mod)
@dezmas9332
@dezmas9332 Ай бұрын
I can imagine the enemy trying to catch the ground units as they run and the thunderbarges tear into them
@lightspam5897
@lightspam5897 Ай бұрын
the only way to win against thunderbarge doomstacks is to not go for the Thunderbarges and take out all the ground forces, so a player Skaven (not AI cause they're stupid) ambushing this would always win cause they know where the dwarf lord/heroes are and will focus on the lord and heroes, Thunderbarges (is a flying unit) need someone on the ground to continue fighting. and if not ambushing then they need a fast single unit that have stalk to evade the thunderbarges and deal high damage to the enemy ground units. so the best ways to deal with this... Is to not deal with this and go Blitzkreig the enemy lord if there's a dwarf banner which gives non character units (preferable Thunderbarges) unbreakable then its basically unbeatable
@TearsOfLa
@TearsOfLa Ай бұрын
Slayer Lord Ozai reporting for the summer solstace
@Alesha1701
@Alesha1701 Ай бұрын
Thunderbarges - dwarven final solution of skaven question!
@stephengragg9009
@stephengragg9009 Ай бұрын
The dwarfs got their own version of the AC-130 Spectre.
@renejaensch8723
@renejaensch8723 Ай бұрын
How the enemy barge went from 'heroic sacrifice' into 'panic retreat' in 0.5sec
@Kamadros
@Kamadros Ай бұрын
not having a space to hide the heroes is probably its only "weakness"
@Erik-ik3bc
@Erik-ik3bc Ай бұрын
Dorfs can craft stalk items
@fernandosindarin7902
@fernandosindarin7902 Ай бұрын
The perfect short Zeppelin doomstack!
@Izznogood76
@Izznogood76 Ай бұрын
"All grudges will be settled" doomstack
@Jolly123123123
@Jolly123123123 Ай бұрын
Love the intros. You say them faster and faster. "Lejontoterwar here"
@argenerarion
@argenerarion Ай бұрын
Now that is the Total War's Warhammer balancing that i fought for! Absolute menace
@zhuoli2139
@zhuoli2139 Ай бұрын
if you check the unit stats in the game data, you will find that one fully buffed thunderbarge has the firepower of 11.5 normal units such as handgunners. Even if it is not in malakai's faction it still equals to 5.5 normal units
@fizzlecheer
@fizzlecheer Ай бұрын
Video includes two "but Legend!" making the remaining footage a bonus
@TheWoWisok
@TheWoWisok Ай бұрын
I think this is the new strongest dooms deck. Also I was curious about the spirit of whatever thunderbarge so when I was doing the Dragon adventure I hadn't all my stuff sit in the corner, just waited for my thunderbarge to be available because it won't disengage summoned. It took out the entirety of the Elven Army and then soloed the unbreakable Dragon with the other two dragons attacking it. The spirit thunderbarge is just insanely open. I have yet to recruit a regular Thunderbird so I have no idea how it is in comparison. The only thing I think is different is that the regular thunder barges shootout that flame stuff, whereas the spirit one shoots cannonballs, which I believe are anti-large and obviously armor piercing and because they're cannonballs they still wreck infantry
@bunkermanbunkerman9724
@bunkermanbunkerman9724 Ай бұрын
would love to see a video with this doomstack against the potential counters mentioned here, and maybe against some other strong doomstacks just to see how utterly broken it is, as i have a feeling even those potential counterdoomstacks wouldnt do very well in an actual fight against these thunderbarges
@simonbas6
@simonbas6 Ай бұрын
The other thing is with the afterburner going, the thunderbarges can outrun anything cuz they have like 90 speed
@JetstreamKage
@JetstreamKage Ай бұрын
dwarves went from an underground race to the strongest airforce the world has ever seen
@netslav3328
@netslav3328 Ай бұрын
ah i love the smell of well balanced unit in the morning nothing quiet like it
@TylerSmith-ti8qd
@TylerSmith-ti8qd Ай бұрын
Aesthetically looking, I must say all the ships together looks hella cool
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte Ай бұрын
I hate how GW introduced helis because they thought that blimp models were weird and hard to make, but then they do 180 and introduce blimps anyway without removing helis.
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