The music was inspired by the book! The entire book! The entire Strauss piece is 35 minutes long! And you are wrong absolutely about the German soldiers...the book was little known and gradually became more read, AND NEVER WIDELY!

draw me a sheep 🐏

One of the greatest mind Friedrich Nietzsche

It's one of those "well, that escalated quickly" moments.

Man first discovering tools and instantly starts using them for violence. That's always seemed close to the actual truth to me.

@@LuckyBaldwin777 , any human invention can and will be weaponized. It's been that way since the dawn of man.

@@carinhall4508 Q-tips?

@@thumperpaul155 yeah, they could be dipped in poison and placed on some one's tongue,,,soo.. really anything can be weaponized. In fact wasn't that how people used to "drop acid".......

Science explains 99.9% of things........but not everything!

From what I understand via Kubrick's wife in an interview, Stanley Kubrick & Arthur C. Clarke were extremely pleased with how accurately they anticipated a lot of the technology of the day (when NASA put out promotional films on their equipment & expertise).

@@danielstone9404 Arthur C. Clarke was a bonafide genius in reading scientific and societal trends. He anticipated a lot of stuff. Several sci-fi writers did, but he was particularly impressive, IMHO. It should also be noted that the process works both ways, tho. Several modern technologies were inspired by sci-fi. Cell phones, for example.

They probably realized they could never do the moon landing as good as Kubrick on NASAs budget at that time.

@@Shendue Arthur C. Clarke came up with the idea of geosynchronous orbits for satellites! 🙂

Is this a local58 reference

@@Anti-FreedomD.P.R.ofSouthKorea It was a quote taken from the book. I am unfamiliar with Local 58.

Millions of years later.

Only one film is better...Barry Lyndon-Kubrick at the height of his powers truly

I agree 100% - It belongs in the league of concepts that can not be eclipsed.

yep thats how boring the movie was.

If ever.

There is equally the final duel of the good the bad the ugly which have a perfect image/music combinaison.

@paul w What do you expect from "critics?"

@paul w Pretty funny dude. I mean, really funny. This film has been hailed by many as among the most brilliant of all time, and unique among all science fiction films, and your viewpoint is your own. I stand by my original statement. It blew people's mins. No, they didn't understand it. Maybe they still don't. Do you?

@Canis Lupus I get it. As a 12 year old kid I was totally dazzled but also totally baffled. After watching it numerous times, and in the context of a lifetime of investigation, it is certainly one of my favorite films.

@paul w I understand your point but it came across as quite disparaging. I know a lot about this film and its production ... and more than just that. I said this scene blew people's minds, and I don't think that warranted such a dismissive comment about how people didn't like the movie. Maybe they didn't. The scene blew their fricking minds, HAL blew their minds, the ending blew their minds. I think that's a fair statement, and I'm not shy about "the public domain" particularly in this age of overt "political correctness' about any opinion offered.

@Canis Lupus The ending, and the movie in general, deals with the evolution of pre-human to super-human (the fetus at the end is astronaut Dave Bowman, reborn just in time to save the human race ... this is not obvious in the movie). The theme also deals with the evolution from just surviving extinction due to the discovery of tools/weapons, to the modern human world where that distinction remains fuzzy, and the world in spite of its dramatic technological advances is teetering on the brink. The abandonment of human control to machines (HAL the computer) proves disastrous, but you see Dave Bowman unplug that machine, plunge into a world of alien beings and even illusion (the rooms and bedrooms, ever aging old man), perhaps even into the very roots of human creation - with the ever reappearing monolith as a kind of portal, or symbol, connecting humanity with this 'other' race. All very symbolic, and magnificently produced even if still mysterious. The story to some extent could be interpreted as a telling of the ancient Babylonian and Vedic myths, where 'others' enabled early humans or pre-humans to survive instead of perish.

This film holds the record of being the "talking picture" with the longest delay between the start and the first spoken words ("Here you are, sir"). 45 minutes IIRC

All time as of currently. Just wait. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Who will be the one who follows him?

I think Michael Bay has him beat in a lot of ways.

@@pascalscherr5206 Very funny

Pascal Scherr tell me you’re joking please

Spielberg as well.

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Yes. Tho he did spend pounds and pounds flying set directors and shrubbery from the desert to England only to not be able to use the foliage in the movie. The set designers said they did learn from the experience and made fake trees based off the real thing.

Okay please explain?? I cant understand what the fuss is about in this scene

@@mridhulml9238 This depicts the moment when proto-humans discovered the ability to manipulate the world around them. It's the beginning of tools, technology, and the entire teleology of human history--hence the transition cut from the bone to the space-age technology. For the film, the bone and space tech (specifically HAL9000) are the bookends of human history, the former initiating one mode of existence for humans and the latter ultimately leading the protagonist into the next mode of existence.

@@robware5166 Well said.

Vienna Philharmonic not Berlin. 1959 Recording

​@@tctytSo this track was recorded in 1959?

Then HAL, the greatest tool humanity has ever created, has to be murdered for being too much like humanity. Kubrick’s irony (?).

yes

Are you sure there hasn’t been one that cut from the dinosaur age to modern humans?

@cultclassic999 It's only three million years. Pin money dear boy. 😊

@@PercivalBlakeney there are definitely movies that had jump cuts from the dinosaur age to the present.

@@hypn0298 If you haven't already, read the book. It's explained in so much more detail. The significance of the jawbone is that it is the first technological innovation by the human race (moreover, it is also, significantly, a weapon). In the book, Clarke describes how this invention, guided by the monolith, leads to innovation after innovation arriving, down the generations, at the satellite (which, according to Kubrick, is a Space borne nuclear missile station.) Do read the book. It will clarify the narrative of the film and it is quite beautifully written. "When the first faint glow of dawn crept into the cave Moon-Watcher saw that his father had died in the night. He did not know that the Old One was his father, for such a relationship was utterly beyond his understanding, but as he looked at the emaciated body he felt a dim disquiet that was the ancestor of sadness." 😉

Didn't know you were born in 88.

Too cheesy the monkey suits. The last scene does it for me.

@@markilicious u wouldn't get it

Yeah man. Feels like I'm watching a documentary. 😬😁

paul w l

Life before the internet. 😅

A better time 😢​@@Naptosis

No, we learned survival.

We learned warfare and murder of kin the moment the weapon was swung with force onto those bones..and then when it crashed down onto the other ape leader's skull..sentient genocide given breath. And slowly we just improved our ancestors aggression methods towards percieved enemies and threats over time to almost enjoyable brutal perfection. And here we are..our species in chaos..enemies to our very selves..our planetary environment burning and poisoned and dying..and..our homeworld fast becoming a bloodied desolate wasteland of mankinds perversion evils and greeds..and our behaviours placed us here. What a beautiful home we have birthed for ourselves and all other earthly life..we should be extremely proud at our accomplishments. Pointless never ending self created death. (/-\)..Proud indeed.😑

@@shakesperezen6078 Sadly that's all too true.

@@rogueriderhood1862 Yep..oh for a Lightspeed capable craft🚀..I'd be.."Seeya humans!..thanks fer all the horrors..Unhappy travels Cycos!..Exit Stage Left!".."Whoooooooosh..Gone!".. (/-\)..✋😆..

Actually it's poorly done. A lot of critics have wondered why.

@@OroborusFMA please elaborate

@Oroborus I don’t think they mean the actual cut as such, but the cut in this particular context. Not the technical qualities that define a cut between two arbitrary frames. More so are they referring to moment just before and after the cut, rather than the cut itself (that’s what I made of it at least- and I agree).

@@OroborusFMA How is it poorly done? It jumps millions of years in the future, and the implications it brings up all stay true to the themes of the story, which only get strengthened as the movie progresses. It certainly is an excellent cut

Tales of Vienna woods actually. Am I wrong?

Yes it was the Blue Danube by Johann Strauss

He sure did. And Kubrick actually had a composer create an original score for the movie. "Thus Spake Zarathustra," "Blue Danube," and every other musical piece in the film were just placeholders, the temp score that Kubrick put together for the film's early cut. It worked so well he didn't use the original score and stuck with the temp score--a great choice, it turns out.

I was very small when this film came out-about 3 years old, My mum told me the Blue Danube was the first piece of classical music I Iiked.-2001 must have been a popular film everywhere so I probably heard it because of that film! My intelligence level was probably at the same level as the chimp's! Apart from the lets see if I can kill anything with it!

What do you mean ?

hahah yep!

@@capotthomas9719 they just found a monolith in the middle of the Utah desert.

😂😂😜

@@ryorta Ok, I've seen it now. thx

Not really. Arthur C. Clarke wrote 'The Sentinel", the basis for this scene, twenty years before "2001" was released.

Nah...Rollergirl. 97'. Boogie Nights.

it's sooooo more than that. its not a monkey. it is our ancestor and this is the moment of consciousness. the first evolving idea "technology" soon after that came the "god" idea but technology was the first. that is what this scene is about.

It basically shows the origins on why black people commit crimes.

Fun fact for you. That very scene you're talking about where the little girls are trashing up the baby dolls is actually based off the intro to 2001: A Space Odyssey where the ape trashes up the skeletal remains of a carcass with a thigh bone, as the video shows.

@@MrSupercar55wow, you don’t say

Me!😊

Are you people gay?

M.R. ……………..did you just go RIC FLAIRE on us , a year ago ?????????

Exactly what I was gonna say. Even the music choices in this movie are mind blowing...

Kubrick had an endless supply of perfectionism and bananas

The modern equivalent seems to be going well.

Hmm, never stopped killing since!

Kubrick really did "change the form" with this film... there hasn't been anything like it (arguably) since... just to put in perspective... this 2 and half hour film showed the dawn of man... technology evolution relationships.... space travel... a mission to jupiter and beyond... the Marvel comic universe and its countless movies told no such story and i still no idea what its about... just hours of garbage and filler

Because of human nature.

I don't know if you ever read the book. 2001 was a pretty bleak and dull future as scifi goes.

@@tsm688 Well, I was speaking less about the movie and more about how the world has turned topsy turvy the last few decades.

and a bit of Roddy McDowall, sorry, I'll show myself out now

Yeah?

Tristram Williams so I’m not the only one who noticed. Thank god

Some uploaders on KZfaq do that to avoid copyright issues

a.) It's film. b.) It's 70mm.