Tier 2 Tech Mistakes! Beyond All Reason Guide & Gameplay

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Wintergaming

Wintergaming

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@apcfire
@apcfire Жыл бұрын
I would def be down for a widget video, I have been trying the game out. Would be dope to see the ranges like that.
@remyxremus
@remyxremus Жыл бұрын
Delighted you're posting so often on BAR and especially with commentary (much more insightful for us). I have high hopes that this game upon future release will make a difference for the RTS genre and you as well by extension :D
@RobertZimmer11
@RobertZimmer11 5 ай бұрын
it for sure will, great game
@seongwookhong6608
@seongwookhong6608 Жыл бұрын
So good from Winter to put the most important information right at the start. Penguins do not have teeth.
@the1Blind
@the1Blind Жыл бұрын
I think the math point you wanted to make and kinda trailed of midway between was: 4000 metal until you get something back from going T2 eco while on a T1 eco (say 20 metal per second) means for 200 seconds (~3,5 minutes out of a game that is at that point maybe going for 10 minutes!) you're not contributing to holding the line.
@thepretender3996
@thepretender3996 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoying 4v4 or 8v8 maps, especially with back and forth or nukes. Love your commentary Winter, keep BAR videos coming.
@krux02
@krux02 Жыл бұрын
Lua stands for lua. That is the name of the programming language these widgets are programmed in.
@frydac
@frydac Жыл бұрын
Lua is a scripting language designed to be embedded in something like a game engine or like adobe products, it's high performant for a scripting language. Lua is developed in Puerto Rico and means 'moon' in Portuguese.
@bluu.0111
@bluu.0111 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for returning to this format! It's great!
@XtaReplay
@XtaReplay Жыл бұрын
When the spring UI fails for some unknown reason, "/luaui reload" usually gets you back on track :-)
@no_body5146
@no_body5146 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, i was just looking for a comment like this!
@BigSteve2167
@BigSteve2167 Жыл бұрын
Been enjoying the commentaries and breakdowns of your games and the pros, keep it up!!
@woarl
@woarl Жыл бұрын
Really good guide, the highlighting of Energy being a critical factor is great and an oft overlooked issue.
@jdave16
@jdave16 Жыл бұрын
I was really paying close attention when you were talking about the build power point you were making. I would love to see a video about build power and some strategies around how to utilize it effectively.
@DrenKillfree
@DrenKillfree Жыл бұрын
Woo I've been on a kick of odd rts games it's nice to see more commentary from you.
@appleslemons9745
@appleslemons9745 Жыл бұрын
the bit at the end with the forced cinematic mode happened to me in a game I was playing against bots. I had to pause to take care of something and when I came back it became that. Some kind of glitch with the pause button for sure that somehow causes the HUD to disintegrate until the match ends.
@leendert2029
@leendert2029 3 ай бұрын
Winter: "Dont die Carl!" Carl: "TY" great communication 😂
@jonathandavidvermeulen4027
@jonathandavidvermeulen4027 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for video Winter!
@bryanheffner4057
@bryanheffner4057 Жыл бұрын
If you hold alt while reclaiming a building it'll reclaim all of that building in the circle. Helps getting rid of old solars. Also, this works if you want to rez the units in a zone and only reclaim the scrap on the ground (hold alt and hover the scraps and make a circle) Loving the coverage and tips!
@Xio189
@Xio189 3 ай бұрын
I can’t get this to work myself lol. Maybe it broke?
@Temmie444
@Temmie444 Жыл бұрын
thank you for another great guide
@fededevi1985
@fededevi1985 Жыл бұрын
First, to do mistakes.
@mikeceez123
@mikeceez123 Жыл бұрын
Keep’em coming man I suck at this game but I love playing it. I’m sorry to my teammates
@superfunion
@superfunion Жыл бұрын
just subbed. great content
@bitslammer
@bitslammer Жыл бұрын
So interesting watching several of the BAR KZfaq channels and hearing differing opinions on wind vs. solarearly on. Obviously on a low wind map there's no choice. I guess I like solar because I hate to stall with low wind which causes me stress out and to make mistakes. Of course I'm also an idiot playing 1v1 AI games on huge maps thinking I'm going to our APM a quad core i7 with dual threading.
@recarsion
@recarsion Жыл бұрын
That reclaim field widget is very impressive by whoever made it, it's not a trivial problem at all.
@leisurecorp
@leisurecorp Жыл бұрын
You learn quick, great guide. Glad you dropped sumos for the best unit in ze game : fiends
@fabienherry6690
@fabienherry6690 Жыл бұрын
A real easy target i have found for raid is the construction turret : they have low health and explode and if you destroy them all you just cripple the build power
@clonezero_RR
@clonezero_RR Жыл бұрын
This is why I space out my generators and con turrets so they don't all explode in case some enemy units was able to sneak past the front line.
@fabienherry6690
@fabienherry6690 Жыл бұрын
@@clonezero_RR It's still a pretty decent target also transporting turret is such a great mechanic 200 build power transportable
@clonezero_RR
@clonezero_RR Жыл бұрын
@@fabienherry6690 Haven't done that myself yet mainly because I don't use air till late game myself. Probably too high level of a tactic for me though.
@fabienherry6690
@fabienherry6690 Жыл бұрын
@@clonezero_RR T1 lab don't cost to much 690 so around the price of a good T2. I have a strat where i rush T2 and air lab i deliver T2 const to my entire team at around 11 minutes (and like IN their base ^^ )
@akukuat101
@akukuat101 Жыл бұрын
Im always looking forward your game n gameplay. Really help for us noobs
@T0tenkampf
@T0tenkampf Жыл бұрын
Its amazing how many people argue about stuff that they can google in 5 seconds. The teeth like structures in a penguins mouth are not technically teeth just like a narwhal doesn't technically have a horn.
@MyriadColorsCM
@MyriadColorsCM Жыл бұрын
LUA is the Portuguese word for "moon", I dont know why they choose this name, but this is a programming language designed in the 90s by a team of brazillians. Largely used, so far as I know, for scripting and not actually for making applications.
@Xn0VV7hj31ph
@Xn0VV7hj31ph Жыл бұрын
About 14 mintues in game, before the t2 con ferry back for fusion, I'd like to build 1-3 t2 pop-up turrets. Think of it as a planetary fortress at the fourth ^^
@Franz420
@Franz420 8 ай бұрын
Would be rlly interesting too see your Unit groups to see how u manage ur units.
@manumaster1990
@manumaster1990 Жыл бұрын
nice
@nurulabser8720
@nurulabser8720 Жыл бұрын
I cant find the reclaim field highlight I downloaded all widgets from the discord but don't see it in the widget selector
@highping100
@highping100 Жыл бұрын
Is there any sheet about minimum net resource requirement when constructing building like Lab or AFUS?
@atrtsh
@atrtsh Жыл бұрын
LUA stands for LUA: Unusual Acronym
@dskinnerify
@dskinnerify Жыл бұрын
BAR content OP
@Covert0ne
@Covert0ne Жыл бұрын
Are you disabling the smaller default health bars whilst using big health bars? By default I'm seeing both.
@Vulecro529
@Vulecro529 Жыл бұрын
Hey man. I need help. My construction bots that come from factory dont go to waypoint. When they come out they stay at factory and assist it to build. How can i change that
@doctorpinguins
@doctorpinguins Жыл бұрын
Penguins do not have teeth.
@apcfire
@apcfire Жыл бұрын
Liking all the BAR Content Winter...keep it coming. Also can't wait for your Legacy of the Void Nightmare run when that releases.
@thedofflin
@thedofflin Жыл бұрын
I did not know that air transports could move buildings, that's great
@Draeckon
@Draeckon Жыл бұрын
Only certain ones, but yes. They'll be tagged as 'Transportable'
@kurtremislettmyr7108
@kurtremislettmyr7108 Жыл бұрын
I like
@leoyoman
@leoyoman Жыл бұрын
Hey Winter, small casting feedback: i like watching the battles, especially the backline runbys or bomber runs. On player cam you often look away once you sent units in that direction (i assume because the problem is solved or micro is not worth it.) So if i want to see what happened i have to speculate based on what ruins i see later on. Also if you zoom in i have no idea what i might be missing, so i prefer big zoom ins on stuff you want to highlight.
@okakokakiev787
@okakokakiev787 Жыл бұрын
Really after planetary annihilation with spherical maps the square with borders doesn't cut it
@CJTongue
@CJTongue Жыл бұрын
F5 is hide / show the UI, but I am sure you tried that already..
@theonlyD
@theonlyD Жыл бұрын
Not sure if that was it but one the F keys toggles the UI, I think it's F5 or F6.
@unbearablysmug2437
@unbearablysmug2437 Жыл бұрын
Plz do an armada guide
@Blottingpaper
@Blottingpaper Жыл бұрын
why don't you use the cloaked bots more for line of sight?
@fibonacci112358steve
@fibonacci112358steve Жыл бұрын
We all know that an Artosis Pylon in SC2 is one that, if destroyed, renders your critical tech structures and infrastructure non-functional. Should we start using the terminology of an "Artosis Fusion Reactor"??? @Wintergaming @WinterSC
@rodrigoe.martinmusri8775
@rodrigoe.martinmusri8775 11 ай бұрын
The draw in your chair is from another channel who does game comedy? XD
@JokeofAllButts
@JokeofAllButts Жыл бұрын
But why doesnt a nice gentleman or lady like a penguin, why dont they have teeth? That would be peak horror :D
@mikaelwidlund4123
@mikaelwidlund4123 Жыл бұрын
like #336. not far to go for the magical number. 476?
@gregglazewski7557
@gregglazewski7557 Жыл бұрын
I suck at this game butlove watching pros
@andyderp6473
@andyderp6473 Жыл бұрын
F*"$ it we'll do it live WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!
@DrownedLamp
@DrownedLamp Жыл бұрын
When do u get Tier 2? Right before a massive push comes down the lane. Murphy's Law of Annihilation.
@DrLeeX
@DrLeeX Жыл бұрын
Save 500 + 2900 with a donated t2 con? How do you save the factory cost, don't you have to build a t2 factory still for t2 units anyway? I always assumed the donated t2 con was just to start getting a higher metal income before sinking the factory costs.
@timmietimmins3780
@timmietimmins3780 Жыл бұрын
The payback time on advanced metal extractors is so fast (about 6 metal per extractor per 2 metal deposit per second), that just getting them out a couple minutes faster means that you get about 600 metal per deposit. On this map, winter has 10 deposits. (we will ignore the cost of the extractor because you are paying that eventually anyways, but note that the cost is real and large, so having your money sunk in a factory will delay your upgrades even if the factory doesn't cut into your ability to make build power. If he had just spammed T2 units and build power, donated 1k metal to his team mate to give him a constructor and this resulted in him getting his mexes, on average, 2 minutes fast, this would be a net gain of about 6000 metal, even after subtracting the 1k metal you would give to your teammate to downpay your constructor and speed up his tier 2 timing. this would EASILY pay for his tier 2 factory, and subsidize his tier 1 unit spam in a major way.
@rekrn12345
@rekrn12345 Жыл бұрын
Ok but when do penguins go T2?
@myhearn
@myhearn Жыл бұрын
How do I get good, what's the best way to practice, I keep jumping in big multiplayer games and just failing to scale eco, just completely stall out after 5 minutes
@clonezero_RR
@clonezero_RR Жыл бұрын
Advance solar + metal converters helped me alot. I always build them in pairs ( 1solar+1 converter) whenever I have metal to spare and it helps me work my way up to t2. If there are bodies of water nearby, tidal generators are better as most maps you get around 20en for 90 metal. Reclaiming nearby trees are useful if you have energy issues.
@ElmerFuddBAR
@ElmerFuddBAR Жыл бұрын
@@clonezero_RR advanced solar and metal maker is very inefficient, the pay back on it is like 10 mins or something stupid. should never try to get eco by spamming adv solars and converters
@ElmerFuddBAR
@ElmerFuddBAR Жыл бұрын
the best way to get good is to watch your replays when you lose your lane or game. when you lose, watch what the enemy does different to you and then try to replicate it.
@ElmerFuddBAR
@ElmerFuddBAR Жыл бұрын
a piece of advice is, do not build too much energy in the early game. metal spent on energy buildings is metal that is not spent on units. you need more units than your enemy so you can kill them and reclaim the dead metal and take more metal spots on front.
@ElmerFuddBAR
@ElmerFuddBAR Жыл бұрын
if you can spend your metal, if your metal stores are going down then you have enough energy. if metal is going up then build more build power (cons/construction turrets), if energy starts to go down while metal is going up then build more energy buildings, then once you have energy check if metal starts to go down, if it does not go down then build more con turrets. just repeat this process. as i said, do not over build energy in early game, that is metal for units to kill enemy. also do not over build build power (cons/con turrets) as that is metal you can use for units. as i said, if metal stores are going down then you have enough of what you need. make units, kill enemy, micro units, reclaim metal. make units, kill enemy micro units and reclaim metal. use some of that metal to invest in more eco ready to transfer into t2 when you get enough metal reclaim to do it.
@BalonKai
@BalonKai Жыл бұрын
Wasn't this based on or an homage to "Total Annihilation" from way back in the day?
@OryAlle
@OryAlle Жыл бұрын
Yes. BAR originally stood for 'Balanced Annihilation Reloaded', basically a remake of a remake.
@isitanos
@isitanos Жыл бұрын
Of course. Chris Taylor the creator of Total Annihilation actually showed up in the 4v4 tournament stream the other day, he was pretty emotional about his designs living on like this. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lcqhbLuoy86YmGg.html
@BalonKai
@BalonKai Жыл бұрын
Ah ok cool! I thought it looked familiar.
@phosphate66
@phosphate66 Жыл бұрын
Do penguins have teeth
@Komyets
@Komyets Жыл бұрын
You broke the game damn it!
@doodiezgrandpa6520
@doodiezgrandpa6520 Жыл бұрын
LIKE THE VIDEO! we at least need 474
@GrrillaFinger
@GrrillaFinger Жыл бұрын
I always skip t1 units and just jump straight to t2
@andrewgreeb916
@andrewgreeb916 Жыл бұрын
As long as your allies know you're rushing t2 you can sell t2 constructors tell your allies you're selling t2 as you're building the lab and make your allies who donated 500 metal a t2 constructor. It helps you get t2 earlier and your allies will appreciate the increased metal income from t2 metal extractors
@dmytrolytvyn4477
@dmytrolytvyn4477 Жыл бұрын
F5 turns the UI in and off
@dmytrolytvyn4477
@dmytrolytvyn4477 Жыл бұрын
With the Grid menu it seems to be Ctrl+F7
@thomaskositzki9424
@thomaskositzki9424 2 ай бұрын
00:30 Who cares about T2!? Want moar Penguin facts! 🐧🥰🤪
@bitemyassets7432
@bitemyassets7432 Жыл бұрын
We got 473 likes 👍
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