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@@Mr.Chicken Question. If you were to only use the two best troops and spec into the range perks, ect. What ratio would you recommend, between Fian C and Khans for your army, how many to how many.

Statwise Khan guard technically Fian on horseback , but more deadly in melee thanks to polearm and can take 1 more beating thans to that mask helmet.

@@wyldenbond7929 I think i'd just go all out on khan's guard

@@Mr.Chicken ty

It's trying to balance the cultures out each one needs a unit to counter with

Is was a flawed design philosophy from the devs, the thinking from them was that every faction needed every unit type, when the superior option would have been to have thematically appropriate troops #MakeSturgianT6Infantry

Bc they need horses for the sake of balance. If they had no horses then they'd be screwed in many situations

@@lordbread8102 I THINK what they were going for was a skirmishing based faction, but only having a skirmishing cav wasn't good

@@lordbread8102 #MakeSturgianT6Infantry

Cantrec is said to be the furthest south the language is spoken. It is one of the southernmost battanian villages so it is safe to assume the rest of battania speaks it.

people trash on sturgia? I mean their cav isn't great and their archers are bad but their infantry is good. I would argue that the asari are better but they aren't bad at all

​@@Wolf_knight5 prolly cuz they're often one of the first factions taken out

@@jonathanpilcher337 They've got the same problem as the Aseria: too long of an area from them all to attack

@@Wolf_knight5 true, but the aserai have more water between them and the rest of calradia, which does a good job at channeling attacks on two specific points of contention on either side. Sturgia on the other hand is left far too open for it's length. 3 of it's cities are pretty much wide open to attacks, with it being cut in half if the varcheg-omor region starts to fall

I use a 50/50 Sturgeon heavy spearman and impérial légionary for my core troops. I don't know yet for the breakliner because he is the most skilled in two hands but medium Armor. Menvetalion are the less skilled but has the best weapon and Armor. The battanien have good skilled and good Armor.

Spears suck.

I like mixing axemen in with the spearmen, in an ideal battle the frontline will be spearmen holding the shieldwall and the backlines will have axemen raining hell on the approaching infantry and damaging their shields+injuring them before the lines even clash

Yeah but it breaks the balance of the game entirely. Cavalry can beat any unit easily and makes the game a joke. If your infantry don't deal pierce of blunt damage (the vast majority dont) you will instantly lose massively to those that do. And low tier troops are completely and utterly useless and are ridiculously hard to level up late game as they have a 90% casualty rate on the best of days. Let alone the battle take so long just to GET the units to start fighting

​@@Deathelement53 you can turn off the combat related setting of the mod (armor and weapon) and keep the AI on

@itemfer1806 I know. But am only talking about the main features but it is a plus that you can make it your own

Found the same thing there sword 1 hander is just real bad compared to most other infantry

Yes Sturgeon Spearman is very good infantry. This tier list is just someone's opinion, don't take it seriously

Y'all have Fish Spearman?🤐

@@gpcouchman3517 you've never heard of spear fishing? It is quite popular in some parts of the world. Especially in areas with shallow water.

@@patrykskoro6989 generally speaking, spearmen are better against cav and axemen are better against infantry. So although the spearmen are good at their job because of their polearm and very good armor, it’s sort of negated by the fact that infantry will be fighting infantry (most of the time) and the fact that the only reason spearmen exist is to stop cavalry in their tracks to then let the higher damage troops take them out (such as the heroic line breaker) the problem with this line of thought however is that the sturgian shield wall is already so thick, tightly packed and the best in the game that the cav probably already will be stopped in the tracks by crashing into a large mass of humanity, then be finished off by superior damage shock troops. They are better against archers though because of their better shields, but ideally around like 1-2/10 of your units will be spearmen to be frontliners, with 3-4/10 being heavy axemen (because of their throwing weapons and better damage against infantry) and 5/10 being heroic line breakers (because they’re one of the best shock troops in the game with great damage, armor, throwing weapons, AND have a sword allowing them to attack in close quarters, and they’re obviously good against cav as all shock troops are.) While spearmen only have two advantages, being able to stop cav (like I said, kind of negated by the superior shield wall and square formations of the sturgians in the first place.) and having the best armor of any infantry in the game, good, but still outclassed. I’ll still take them because they look cool though.

​@@ethandurst in my experience, best is all of them in same numbers. Yes, its not great combination for damage, but this was only combo, where I was able to win outnumbered by vlandian heavy cav and crossbowman in a same time (200 vs 360 cca), and similar situation against empire and khuzanits. Well yes, most damage did my companions, but this infantry did everything, where companions did not have numbers, and archers just sucks (but they are still needed).

Aserai veteran infantry imo is the best. they are basicly a slightly less armored legionary with skirmishing capabilities.

While I agree that the Aserai are decent at everything, the Empire is GOOD at everything, so they're even better as a jack of all trades.

asari vet. infantry imo are the best infantry

Naw they suck because they lose against any faction that invests it all into a single type of troop

@@jason200912 - Exactly. Every single faction can easily beat the Aserai. Full stop.

@@jason200912 by using that logic Fian champions suck because batania gets rolled

I tested all t5 troops against each other and the Mameluke palace guard was the worst on total k/d ratio by a small margin. But if you roll up with many shock troops, they will all do great, although some more than others.

They freaking suck. They're delaying troops basically and you'll do way better with just imperial infantry

I have 2 in my vlandian army that I converted after capture. They get at least 10 kills per battle. They even got 24 kills in one battle the other day, but one got wounded. They outperform my voulgiers even though I usually have about 10 of them. Thinking about going to get more

The sturgian heavy axemen used to obliterate heavy spearmen in melee fights (against each other and against other troops) I uploaded several testing videos that prove so. However, in the 1.2 patch, heavy spearmen generally now perform better than the heavy axemen. So their tiers should be swapped now, making this list outdated. I might make a video on specifically comparing the heavy axeman and the heavy spearman.

Equipment is much more important than their "skill" in one handed. Melee skills are largely overvalued, it's much more important in other areas like bow skill.

@@Mr.Chicken At least the spearman makes it to C tier because of that,its primary component is to deal with cavs and the one handed skill is just a sideshow to help them defend against infantry

You can swap heavy spearmen with heroic line breakers and do a formation with many lines. Cavalry will get Stuck in infantry and the heroic line breakers will kill them while they are amazing in melee so they will shred enemy infantry too. Use heavy axemen to protect them from archers tho. And tell your heroic line breakers to hold their fire so they won't try to use their shitty throwing axes instead of their two handed axe. Or micro manage their throwing. The elite menavliaton is better against cavalry, and similar in melee strength, so you might just use them.

All shielded infantry is terrible at killing cavalrym your best bet is to use your own cavalry to defeat their cav when they charge into your infantry. The only infantry that did okay against cav were falxman and voulgier (polearm infantry)

​@@jason200912 the elite menavliaton is great too, especially as if they thrust their weapon vs incoming cavalry, their polearm is basically a spear so if they hit the horse, the horse stops immediately. Then they swing their fast menavlion and kill them easy while regular spears can't so much damage after stopping a horse.

I would actually have a mix of all 3 infantry as they all serve a purpose. The spearman come in handy against the Calvary, axeman support the Spearman, and have the linebreakers ready to go with the hold fire on until they’re right close. Have the battanian heroes for archers and you for a got a solid army

@@haydnrutledge5238 Thanks, I had Battanian Fian Champions already.

Having elite troops specifically for beating commoners means they're a dog shit troop to use

They don't. They have a pilum, which is a throwable spear, but talewords removed AI from throwing that spear.

@@Mr.Chicken I'm sure I saw them throwing knife to me maybe taleworlds remove the throwing knives from menavliatons

@@justaturk0 the unit changed a bunch from early access (they used to only have a trash spear and a sword) but they never had throwing knives. Maybe you played with some mods that changed their equipment. You could also be thinking about puppeteer units as they have throwing knives.

@@Mr.Chicken actually you're right because I've seen them a little bit far away. By the way will you make a challenge of only HA or archers

Horse archers or archers only is the easiest playthrough so I ouldn't want to do that. I'm currently in my bandits only 2 playthrough

falxman beat everything in a vacuum. In a real battle they are still good, but outclassed by the eliet menevliaton and volgier

I think all crosbowman are meant to rain bolts fast and join the frontlines, thats what makes them different from archers.

@@m.b.8282 Imo making them like shock troops would cement their heavy hitting stereotype. Plus it would make them better against cav

Just realized I meant two bags of bolts. I'm a dumbass

fian champions are betters archers by quite a margin. They have more arrows and a much better bow.

@Mr.Chicken Bannerlord Fair enough, but idk why I see Khan's Guard killing Fian Champs more easily than the FC killing KG.

They were heavily buffed. They have the best bow from all regular t5s and they don't have just one stack of arrows anymore. They used to be great at the start of early Access, but then they were nerfed into oblivion for a long time. Then some time ago, idk maybe 6 months ago, they finally gave them another stack of arrows, a better bow and some changes in armor. Some units deserve a slightly lower and higher tier, like the palatine guard is between A and B tier but a bit closer to A tier so i put them in A tier. The aserai master archer was also very close to A tier but i put them in B tier as i believe they are a bit closer to that tier.

Yo, the list is somewhat outdated. The faris is a tier, but the elite cataphract does not deserve S tier. I'm testing cavalry at the moment and the faris outperform them while mounted.

@@Mr.Chicken what about wildlings? I think they are worse... they deserve c tier max.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ncWap9Rp3qndYHU.htmlsi=So1pu3V7IOPbw6m4 They are pretty decent. Just bad at melee.

Khuzait's beginner guide : Step 1 : recruit khan's guard Step 2 : win

As the Fian champion, they are still too OP and khuzait khan's only playthroughs ruin the game as it's too easy.

Thanks to vlandiaworlds nerfing the shit out of Druzhinnik, they are.

just recruit whatever is easiest. Banner knight does have a slight edge currently as a cavalry unit

they never use their javs to stab, only throw. Javs can be a decent counter against cavalry if good javs & a decent throwing skill is combined. Although the strength of the wildling is more against skirmishing by going back, as if you can tell them to go backwards while firing javs, and since they have 10 javs makes them the best skirmisher unit.

Set them to follow only.

I don't know if it works on PC, but on console, if you set them to charge, they will automatically ride in circle around the enemy and litterally destroy them

Yeah I started to just keep about 20 or so for my elite bodyguards when I'm Lord hunting in battle

Khan's guard are so overpowered that they would still be in S even if they were naked

@@aug_rld 🤣 just good advice if you are fighting them, aim for the legs

thats very strange, you probably have a mod installed that changes units.

But C because their trash melee.

Makes sense, considering Vlandia is the predecessor state to swadia

Voulgier is b tier.

Copy paste from previous reply: Their Rophalia is very unbalanced. I tested all t5 units versus each other, and the veteran falx man won against all of them (5 rounds, & even numbers on both sides. sometimes they lost 2 rounds). Nevertheless, they suffered high casualties, especially against one handed troops when compared to other shock troops and had the second lowest total k/d ratio for all shock troops, the lowest was the mameluke palace guard, who is placed in B tier too. Vet falx men areideally are the best against other shock troops, but in battles, one handed troops are much more common. They have good body armor for a shock troop but somewhat lacks armor in different parts, especially arm armor. Also, if they get outnumbered, especially vs one handed troops, they will do far worse than some other shock troops, such as the heroic line breaker who is the best troop against one handed units. Some units might be close to another tier, like this unit was close to A tier but closer to B tier so I put them in B tier. Now for the voulgier: In the same testing, they won all fights, but not vs the veteran falx man (they won 2/5 rounds). However, their total k/d ratio was much higher, in fact, it was the second best, right behind the elite menavliaton. They perform better against one handed troops with a higher k/ ratio, and interestingly enough, they performed better with a higher k/d ratio against other tek handed units, even tho they lost against the falx man. (Although they only lose one more round)

Link to spreadsheet with all data from every t5 vs each other - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-jiZIGdFXxR6JczTGBROdh2nv2yUzxqMvmln4IIsYY0/edit?usp=drivesdk

@@Mr.Chicken I'm talking about t4. Not t5 falxman

not at all. Ive been on the receiving end playing as the w. empire: we outnumbered them 2.5 to 1, and we came out with like 1/20 of our army

maybe against the player they aren't as good, but they are overall very good

Falxman are better than veteran falx btw. They lose the shield destroyer perk when you upgrade them.

Their Rophalia is very unbalanced. I tested all t5 units versus each other, and the veteran falx man won against all of them (each fight there were 5 rounds, they sometimes lost 2 rounds). Nevertheless, they suffered high casualties, especially against one handed troops when compared to other shock troops and had the lowest total k/d ratio for all shock troops. They ideally are the best against other shock troops, but in battles, one handed troops are much more common. They have good body armor for a shock troop but somewhat lacks armor in different parts, especially arm armor. Also, if they get outnumbered, especially vs one handed troops, they will do far worse than some other shock troops, such as the heroic line breaker who is the best troop against one handed units. Some units might be close to another tier, like this unit was close to A tier but closer to B tier so I put them in B tier.

​@@Mr.Chicken Fair point.

​@@jason200912 This is not the case since some patches.