Tiki-Taka Explained

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What actually is Tiki-Taka? The 21st Century's most famous footballing style finds its roots decades earlier, but Pep Guardiola's Barcelona, and the world-conquering Spanish team of 2008-2012, turned Tiki-Taka into an all dominating force. Alex Stewart explains what it actually means, how it's used, and where it comes from.
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@freefallingband 4 жыл бұрын

Tifo football podcast drinking game Take a drink every time -They say "inverted" -Mention "passing lanes" -"Pressing" -Joe desperately tries to talk about something that isnt football -Mention a specific "The Athletic" article - you have to Google what player they're talking about cuz you dont watch the italian 3rd division If anyones got extras leave a comment below

@erdnasiul87 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the coma

@shwilly 4 жыл бұрын

Marcelo Bielsa

@nigefal 4 жыл бұрын

between the lines

@bunchifybunch 4 жыл бұрын

Half-spaces

@ShizzShowerShave 4 жыл бұрын

Stylistically

@mikecraddock9173 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the ramped up and excellent content, exactly what we all need at the moment!

@Marzy07 4 жыл бұрын

Me: tries tiki taka in fifa 20 My players: Their stamina: left the chat

@martk647 4 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile in pes. Players are close to each and don't know what a triangle is.

@FIDESCALLE 4 жыл бұрын

haha I think this guy is the most accurate Tiki Taka player in FIFA who is able to play competitively at the same time, as most of the time people who try to implement Tiki Taka in FIFA tend to lose in the higher divisions because they compromise effectiveness for play style; kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z8-Fl8-ip9ucknU.html

@sobrevalorado 4 жыл бұрын

The term La Furia was left out by Luis Aragonés on his first days at the national team. He replaced by La Roja (the red one). The despective term tikitaka (not a Basque word) was adopted in a possitive way by a tv narrator famous for his flamboyant expressions and nicknames. His name was Andrés Montes he died ten years ago. David Villa arrived at Barça very old after playing for Sporting de Gijón, Zaragoza and Valencia. He never stayed at La Masía

@williamoldaker2437 4 жыл бұрын

Joe, my flute. Where is my flute?

@TheAthleticFCPodcast 4 жыл бұрын

The flute is always available in the downloadable audio version. For flute fixes, see there.

@williamoldaker2437 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheAthleticFCPodcast 4 seconds does not a flute solo make. Do the right thing Joe.

@nickunderscore_ 4 жыл бұрын

the moment i liked the video was joe walking alex through the athletic sponsorship bit. premium content

@akshaypanwar4964 4 жыл бұрын

16:55 , giroud is a classic number nine but his link up play is so undertated

@ScottOscarWhite 4 жыл бұрын

I've loved Tiki Taka since I saw Guardiola's Barca tear Mourinho's Madrid side 5-0 about a decade ago. When I coach junior teams I encourage rotation and ball retention because I've always believed possession based play breeds football intelligence. Question: why do you think the 4-3-3 formation is the dominant formation when it comes to tiki taka? Is it simply because its optimal in terms of player positioning or is it more to do with the ability to spread play and make the pitch as wide as possible without committing midfield players (Man City for example)? P.S I always found gegenpressing to be sexy

@vainokautto9934 4 жыл бұрын

I think it's 433s natural positioning (triangles). For examble cb has naturally 3 or 4 diagonal short passing options. Also it is easy to overload center areas of the pitch (3 midfielders, false 9?, inverted fullbacks or wingers etc.)

@Skegfromcraigslist 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s all about triangles

@losgalacticos9066 4 жыл бұрын

Scott White Barcelona’s possession football is defensive and focused on ball retention. Real Madrid played better possession football with the midfield of Modric, Kroos, Isco and Casemiro. Real Madrid played possession football before mourinho. Jose mourinho made real play counter attacking football but then ancelotti made real revert back to possession football when he became coach.

@flyiseverywhere 4 жыл бұрын

Football intelligence is about player making decision that is most likely to score. Retain possession doesn't translate to progressing the attack.

@darkhafgor 4 жыл бұрын

@@losgalacticos9066 Defensive? Didn't Barca beat your team 2-6 and 5-0?

@robertdenton3617 4 жыл бұрын

The seafaring 8 bit Japanese music is growing on me.

@elienaddour8973 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah me too and it's great 2 podcasts in 2 days.

@killercaos123 4 жыл бұрын

When you think of Pep you should think of two names. Cryuff and Bielsa Also Pep is the footballing equivalent to Steve Jobs.

@killercaos123 4 жыл бұрын

Having actually read Pep Confidential and the follow up, most peoples idea of “tiki taka” and Pep’s philosophy on Positional Play are two slightly different things. One term is more a media creation and use, and one is what Pep actually refers to his method.

@Shadow017M 4 жыл бұрын

I'm curious if the distinction goes further than just a nominal difference, in your estimation

@stevphen 4 жыл бұрын

Listening to this it seems clear that one of the reasons why the rivalry between Liverpool and Man City over the past few years has been so goos is not just the quality of play by both teams, but also the contrasting approaches and philosophies used by Koop and Pep. Could you do something about historic rivalries and their underlying approaches to play employed. For instance, are these rivalries more exciting when teams use contrasting approaches? How does a rivalry feel different when two teams are attempting to pursue a much more similar style of play?

@rltofuiii 4 жыл бұрын

To me, tiki taka is always about controlling the opposite team while also being able to rest. Players like Xavi or Iniesta are thankful for these because they can pass quite a bit of time without running and exploding only, using more their brain then speed to press or push forward if needed. The lack of physical players as mentioned is also a factor, specially at the front 3. Pedro, Messi and etc... Not built to battle it out physically. A difficult but ""safe" strategy to be able to dominate possession and mitigate how many times you have to press.

@elienaddour8973 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys 2 podcasts in 2 days keep it up.

@stevphen 4 жыл бұрын

I’m really amused by this dynamic between Joe and Alex where Joe basically tortures Alex into uttering the correct sponsor messages at the correct time. Hilarious.

@CheGypter 4 жыл бұрын

Thiery Henry has some good interviews where he talks about the concept of positional play he learned from Pep

@whatchachattin 4 жыл бұрын

There's a film on it, Take The Ball Pass the Ball

@michaelmarent9092 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant podcast thank you

@NotesfromtheBenchRWDP 4 жыл бұрын

Ajax's run in the Champions League showed that you don't need exceptional players to do damage with a tiki-taka-esque style of play.

@procyonwave1327 4 жыл бұрын

Roderic Priester you big Ajax dosser

@Demonion83 4 жыл бұрын

Fascinating.. Cheers.

@kevinevano4497 4 жыл бұрын

Alex saying point of crescendo is my point of crescendo

@CheGypter 4 жыл бұрын

People forget Yaya Toure played a lot of centre back at Barca

@sobrevalorado 4 жыл бұрын

A lot? Only four matches with two finals (Copa and Champions League) included. An emergency solution when injuries emptied the defense places

@killercaos123 4 жыл бұрын

Didn’t he hate it too?

@rltofuiii 4 жыл бұрын

@@killercaos123 Well, in a Interview he mentioned how he would prefer to attack, but when you're with Xavi and Iniesta, you concede and defend haha. He is a team player, but I'm sure in another world where these two weren't there, he would prefer to be more involved in attack.

@otto_jk 4 жыл бұрын

@@sobrevalorado it's because Guardiola doesn't like YAYA

@evilestmanlp 3 жыл бұрын

@@otto_jk It’s always bizarre to me why there is a special kind of hatred towards Pep (the same goes for Messi). Almost all managers have a certain type of preference towards their players. Lots of players had fallouts with managers. Yet when it happens to Pep , some people just turn into Pep hating a certain player, Pep wanting to be the main man of the team (isn’t Mourinho praised for being the main protagonist in the team, because it takes pressure off players 😅?). Again, teammates clash during training and matchs..meanwhile the whole world knows that Messi screamed on David Villa once in some Laliga game (so Messi is a wolf in sheep’s clothes hahaha)

@alfredaramouni5884 4 жыл бұрын

love the new layout

@Panjax 4 жыл бұрын

I think an effective analogy to football is Boxing at times, and Tiki-taka to Floyd Mayweather. Very technical, one of the best to ever do it, very controlling likes to hit and not get hit, but very susceptible to being boring. You can't deny how good and how effective it is but it's not always fun to watch a team roll their shoulder and jab and move for 12 rounds. Teams like Liverpool play like they're in the heavyweight division, you throw bombs and risk getting nuked.

@sarahjessicafarter7383 4 жыл бұрын

Italy won the world cup playing defensively? In 2006? They had Zambrotta and Grosso bombing up the wings from full back, two playmakers in Pirlo and Totti, then two attacking midfielders in Perotta and Camoranesi. It's down to subjective judgement but I'd describe them as one of the more attacking world cup winners of recent tournaments. France in 2018 had 4 centre backs across their back line, Matuidi as a defensive left midfielder and Pogba only occasionally joining attacks. I'd go for them as a better example.

@charlescarsononchonga4 4 жыл бұрын

good detailed explanation of tiki taka

@joeyeleven8997 4 жыл бұрын

I thought Joe was going to start singing "put ya hands uppp in the air putttt ya hands uppp, in the air..." for a moment then... hahahaha...

@madodaludidi3696 4 жыл бұрын

Liked and subscribed

@matheus5230 4 жыл бұрын

Can you make a podcast about Guardiola's Barcelona, specially their peak season (2010-2011) and greatest performances, like the 5-0 against Real Madrid (the greatest performance in football history in my opinion, the technical pinnacle of this sport)?

@Ese96Agoaye 4 жыл бұрын

The intro and outro reminds me of an Alex Zane gameshow

@sarthakgautam3504 4 жыл бұрын

I am spoiled football fan . Growing up watching that Spain and Barcelona team. I've become so biased towards positional play and couldn't enjoy football more often like I used to do in those days and I am not likely impressed by teams. ( I feel I'm missing something that my friend's don't watching football) But I have to admit lately Manchester City and Liverpool have been brilliant and pretty impressive. I like Klopp's side (despite that Anfeild disaster) which has come as a bit shock for me. With someone like Coutiniho(pre 2018) /Havertz /Thiago / kovacic in midfield for Liverpool it would be more fun to watch. For City someone like Grimaldo/Alaba/Chilwell at LB and ball playing defender like Skriniar / Upamecano they'd return back to their old form.

@kyledittman8408 4 жыл бұрын

Was about to sleep bc it’s 2 am where i live but i guess that’s not happening anymore

@runrafarunthebestintheworld 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's 11 pm here and I'll just watch this in the morning. LoL

@misomiso8228 4 жыл бұрын

You could do a podcast on how to reform the Champions League / Europa cup, if you think they need reform. Making them into one big Seeded two leggedd knockout tournie would be pretty great imo.

@8wayz2shine 4 жыл бұрын

On the topic of Tiki-taka being a pure form of football, it actually encourages more fouling from the team playing it. Both Barcelona and Manchester City are fairly infamous for their tactical fouling. They not only stop a whole attack in its tracks, but since it is done in a fairly precise and gentle manner, they also rarely get booked for it. You can often see Busquets and Fernandinho going straight for the foul with no intention to win/play the ball. They usually make use of their hands to make sure the plr stops and do not hurt him. Yet, that is a fairly cynical form of play - they are essentially using the rulebook to stop attacks, not their sporting abilities.

@runrafarunthebestintheworld 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and all that fouling that Man City has done this season has cost them some games like against Wolves.

@mechkota 4 жыл бұрын

@@runrafarunthebestintheworld how so?

@aevi09 3 жыл бұрын

this is great

@evanlawrence5815 4 жыл бұрын

When yal said Brandt at city i flipped out i was so pissed yo

@FountainOfYoot 4 жыл бұрын

Oh man, completely forgot about Leon Britton! Arguably, at his peak, he was playing like Xavi.

@HIM-lk6of 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a really enjoyable and informative offering. I think that Tiki-Taka is a very niche style of play and requires a brilliant squad of technicians plus a couple of elite players sprinkled in the MF and Forward lines with a bold, equally brilliant coach on the sidelines. I think as the seasons went on under Pep at Barca they shifted focus more to possession as a way to compensate for structural weaknesses... Now I don't think Tiki-Taka will fare as well as it did in that period between 08-12 as was pointed out, now we see more teams employ the tactical anthetisis with several notable instances of success against Barca just outside of that peak period of Tiki-Taka. I think Barca has to evolve and embrace certain tweaks similar to what we see at City as the English club under Pep is still possession focused yet have more strings to their bow and actually embrace some direct elements. Once again, thanks for a quality episode.

@MsZeeZed 4 жыл бұрын

That Patricia Highsmith books lack descriptions of piss-smelling streets was not what I was expecting to take away from this podcast.

@CheGypter 4 жыл бұрын

wow, so much good content coming out recently! COVID19 isnt all bad after all;)

@seven92023 4 жыл бұрын

Tiki Taka and Positional Play are two different things. Tiki Taka was a time wasting strategy to defend by keeping the ball because the other team can't score if they don't have the ball. Positional Play is a strategy to overload certain zones, gain advantage and move the opposition in order to create space and openings to score.

@whatchachattin 4 жыл бұрын

One morphs into the other no?

@seven92023 4 жыл бұрын

@@whatchachattin No not necessarily.

@tedvandross1984 4 жыл бұрын

Athletico Mince want their theme tune back

@ChefRojo 4 жыл бұрын

Very fun podcast, I've been really enjoying it the past couple of weeks. Thank you. A request; "What's going on at Newcastle United?" I don't refer to the trite, oft-regurgitated hyperbole of 50,000 passionate Geordies and all that lark (all football fans are created equal). Just an objective, in-depth, and typically-TIFO discussion of the club's current status in the game. Help expose what a scumbag the owner is by just using facts regarding the club's debts, the SD advertising, the sale of club-owned land, the status of the club BEFORE he decided to sink his parasitic fangs (or whatever leeches have) in to the club, the relentless barrage of lies and biased, discourteous main stream media "interviews". You wouldn't even need to use highlighting his many downfalls as a human being as the main topic of the video, it'd simply become apparent. In a piece discussing the financial state of the game and the motives of football club owners, Football finance expert Kieran Maguire stated “If Mike Ashley, for example, offered £2bn for the club I supported, I’d be soiling myself". And the less said about his treatment of Sports Direct staff the better. His recent actions should serve as incentive enough to want to expose this wretched, greedy, malevolent bully. And now that your audience is up (I assume) it would offer a perfect opportunity to do so. Peace and love. Stay safe and all that sort of thing x

@Veaseify 4 жыл бұрын

As a Newcastle supporter one of the interesting things to me is that he knows he's hated and despised, he has no interest in achieving anything substantial with the club and appears to want to wash his hands of it entirely. Yet, any serious offer in the last 5 years has been rejected for reasons that are never apparent. Even with his insistence that the selling price has to include the money he has loaned to the club he 'only' appears to want 350 million or so for it, which is peanuts to be honest in todays game - yet it always breaks down, strange.

@johnmoore-alameda4241 4 жыл бұрын

Caaammmmaaann guys use ur webcams

@AnonNomad 4 жыл бұрын

Do you ever resent that your last name is Devine instead of Divine? I probably would.

@javiersuarez4288 4 жыл бұрын

It is not unfair, tiki-taka is best, most pure form of football. Yes there are other ways to play football, all of them valid of course. But they are more corrupted ways to play. And it had absolutely nothing to do with its name, come on be serious guys :). In many ways having watched so much of Xavi and Iniesta, so much Spain and Barsa of the time, it has ruined football for me a bit. Anything Ive watched since has been a poor substitute for that football. Btw that was the real tiki-taka, any other current versions are just something else. Great channel though! Keep up the fantastic job you are doing :)

@flyiseverywhere 4 жыл бұрын

I don't think you ever play at reasonable level.

@javiersuarez4288 4 жыл бұрын

@@flyiseverywhere and? Your point exactly is?

@deldia 4 жыл бұрын

I don't think you follow much sport - sport changes, rivals adapt. Happens all the time.

@javiersuarez4288 4 жыл бұрын

@@deldia again so? Your point is? Nobody argues that, sport evolve...and? What does that have to do with the discussion about tiki taka? Look at the modern NBA, is good? Of course! Is it good to watch? Kind of. Is it better to watch than the golden era with Kareem, Magic, Jordan, Bird etc.? Definitely not! Well when it comes to football, the pinacle of beauty and control was reached by that team. Do you want evidence? Only national team to ever win three big tournaments on a row. Look at the numbers during the 4-6 years the dominated the world. So who doesnt watch sports you said? You perhaps?

@deldia 4 жыл бұрын

@@javiersuarez4288 I'm just now fooled by stupid statements of knowing "the real" anything.