“…constructive and well intentioned criticism can be the most difficult to swallow bc you can’t just brush it off as hate” is such a good, well worded piece of advice

Honestly, I think 99% of the hate happened because he started the tiktok by saying "did I just write the next emo punk anthem?" or whatever. The hive mind had already sharpened their knives before he sang the first note.

Pellet gun Kelly got me

Okay but "YOOO UNRELEASE THIS" originally was pretty funny

This guy isn't even 2% as cringy as the shit we used to pass off as cool in the MySpace era

i'm sorry but "pellet gun kelly" sent me through the roof especially since I thought Danny was going to talk about MGK's emo girl song

I think this guy’s song isn’t bad but I wouldn’t say it’s good either. It could use some work but it definitely doesn’t deserve the amount of hate it has been receiving.

I know obviously this is directed at a very specific person, but that "You can't change their mind by overexplaining why you do something" is some really good advice I feel like I need to take to heart that I've never heard from anyone before.

danny saying "its not easy defending you my guy." after seeing the joker poster in his room is the best part of the whole video

The music mostly isn't that bad, it's the framing of "this is the next big thing" combined with the quirky overexagerated acting and aesthetic (like how there are 5 different sound effects when he starts explaining how lyrics work) that make this unlikeable. It gives off the vibe of trying waaaaaaaay too hard and the over the top acting/expressions feel like a kids TV show

This is sad. He is so proud of his song and people are bullying him. It takes a long time and a lot of experience to learn how to present yourself online. He didn't do anything wrong, he just didn't present himself well.

for anyone wondering where hes at now, hes actually gotten better

As a former emo teenager, now emo adult, this dude looks and sounds like he was frozen inside a hot topic since 2004 and someone accidentally thawed him out

spoken like a true prince of the glory days

I think one of the big things is his declaration that it's going to be successful before playing that. That primes your alt crowd to immediately be suspicious. The song isn't actually bad, it's just not a hit.

"Shirt" and "shit" is a slant rhyme. An example of a perfect rhyme is "shirt" and "skirt". Thank you for coming to my TED talk (probably from 9th grade English)

I used to identify as a weirdo, until I was informed the word I was looking for is autistic.

i don't think he would have gotten as much hate if he hadn't declared the song "the next emo anthem." That stuff needs to happen naturally and agreed on by the community as a whole, this is just like the Trampstamps trying to prove they deserve punk clout

"Wouldn't wanna introduce young people to pop punk" being said sarcastically is actually the peak of comedy, considering the reputation pop punk bands actually get when it comes to young people

“He’s got a poster of the Joker in his room?” Cut to Danny with an inhaler in the background

I feel that starting that tiktok with “is this the next emo anthem” was the biggest mistake. Any bold statements like that and the like of “if you like MCR you’ll love my band” are destined to not work with the emo crowd. The alternative scene was born out of not liking what everyone else likes, not being who everyone else is, by not fitting in so making it obvious that we don’t fit in. Tell us you made a song you think we might enjoy, that represents your view on the scene. That’ll get way more positive attention. Sure people can be pricks and you’ll never escape the negative comments but I believe there would be way less if it was done a different way

It's like someone showing off a piece of art they've just finished with the caption of "So uh, did I just make the next Mona Lisa or what!" It does not matter how good the art is, there's no way it can live up to that sort of comparison and people are more likely to disagree just because it comes of as pretentious, no matter whether they would've liked it otherwise.

I love the legitimate criticism and advice you give him. It's good advice for anyone who wants to start making content as well. You're always so respectful to people as well, even when they really do deserve the criticism. I look up to you so much as someone who wants to be a creator, and also just as someone who wants to be a good person. Thanks, Danny.

I was really heavy in the pop punk scene in high school and this guy reminds me of a lot of the people I used to hang out with. The internal conflict of not caring about fitting in with the mainstream and desperately wanting the approval of the pop punk/emo community is a huge part of the culture and if you're not immediately beloved and accepted within the community, it's easy to fall into this sort of cringe defensiveness. I feel like that's a little true for every creator, but it's a huge issue in the pop punk community / music scene

I've actually unfollowed some people before because they wouldn't stop responding to their haters in a way that just felt like a huge waste of time and energy. I think you're spot on in saying that a creator like this can't spread a message of not caring about what others think while also trying to change people's minds. Also, I love the respectful tone of this video - that's something I love about your commentary. Entertaining, but always pretty fair and never needlessly mean.

His music is pretty much on par with older “generic” emo music lol. I can 100% imagine early 2000’s emo and scene kids rocking out to this Also GODDAMN the acoustic version genuinely is something I’d listen to, he’s skilled on the guitar

his music isn’t even that awful. he just needs to reach the audience that listens to bowling for soup outside of the phineas and ferb theme /srs

i really appreciate how danny gives so much empathy to people he covers. the earnest advice is really refreshing to see rather than just plainly making fun of someone

15 minutes of Danny trying to defend a random dude on Tik Tok while cringing.

“Pellet gun Kelly” is the most amazing thing I’ve hear in my entire existence of being

This is literally the most wholesome and sweet and caring Danny has *ever* been

this video is the beginning of Danny's arc as a "social media dad." years from now, when hundreds of thousands of people are regularly seeking social media advice from Danny, they'll look back on this video as the inception of an era.

Great, constructive vid! I was surprised no one brought it up in the TikTok comments, but the song clip he’s using is eerily similar to the chorus of ”Kings & Queens” by Thirty Seconds To Mars, with ”Kings & Queens” being changed to ”princes & princesses”. Even if that’s a reference on purpose it’s too close for comfort. As you said, the rest of the song is also better! He’s got great potential for sure.

Tiktok literally ruined the subculture that pretty much describes me, when it comes to music. I don’t think they even know what ‘Emo’ subcultures really are anymore.

I listen to pop punk frequently, and IMO this song is OK at best, but I think the visuals are where it really falls apart. If you've ever seen a video by Finn McKenty (The Punkrock MBA) you know how important he thinks the projected personality, or "star power", of the frontman of a band is, and I tend to agree with that. This is a one-man-band (as far as I can tell), which makes his presentation even more important when he decides to include himself in the video(s). To me he comes off as disingenuous in the newer videos (including the music video), like he's doing a persona, and the performance feels both forced and understated somehow, like he doesn't quite dare to go all in, because it's not really who he is. (The half assed dance in the "happy pop-break" at 6:08 was especially painful to watch). In the older videos he comes off as more genuine, and even though the music isn't necessarily better, it's at least more pleasant to watch. I get making a flashy video and trying to stand out, but people can smell bullshit from a mile away. The lyrics also seem to be impersonaI, and to me they come off more like he's used a "pop punk lyric formula" rather than write something meaningful himself. I'm not saying this to be mean to the guy, it's just my take on the matter. I do hope he keeps at it and tries to improve, and that he can learn to project himself more genuinely in the process.

"I made this song for young people" "... When we were young" What age are these kids being nostalgic for?

"Did I just reach meme status?" "Did I just compose the new emo anthem?" He's a bit too ahead of himself.. When I see people chase fame with even a hint of desperation it always makes me uncomfortable

danny's hair looks so good in this video fr

I first heard what he said as "did I just create the new email anthem?"

"pellet gun kelly" had me rolling 🤣

I think the reason he's getting way more hate than he should is cause he's targetting a subculture that's really big on gatekeeping (coming from someone who was on the receiving end). I haven't visited his profile but I'm honestly so sure that a lot of the people hating on him are the same people that would ask you to name three songs if they saw you wearing a shirt from a rock band Edit: didn't expect a lot of people to agree with me lmao

"I guess you could say I'm ken"

The song isn’t bad, he’s just too confident

imagine this guy is actually Danny and he's been doing this for six years 💀💀 the dedication that would take

Man even if he is just doing satire or a parody, he’s got so much more passion and effort than 90% of anyone else on Tik Tok. The girl who duetted with him literally just sat with her phone right up to her face and said “no”. No effort or talent to do that. Just being really rude for no reason. I respect this guy

I know I'm late, but I just wanna say thank you to you and your community for being so supportive and nice to him. It makes me really happy to see that and that there is more than blind hate out there. It may sound shallow or something but this is one of the most beautiful videos I have ever seen it means so much to me that there is more than unforgiving hate on the internet and that you and your community have compassion (especially since the emo community gets a lot of hate). I could go on much longer but that would escalate and I couldn't express myself right anyways, so I'm going to leave it like that. Thank you ❤

it’s literally a rip off of kings and queens by 30 seconds to mars

Danny being honest but not needlessly cruel is such a nice thing to see, I feel like a lot of people who focus on commentary try too hard to justify their criticism instead of keeping a fair balance and end up being a bit excessive in an attempt to overcompensate. Good video, hopefully this dude can learn from it. (I think the most important thing to learn from these days is the point about giving people a reaction. Even smaller artists I follow run into this problem where they try to be accommodating and instead people use it as opportunity to dogpile accusations or guilt them into only creating content that person wants to see.)

danny should write the next emo anthem called, “my wife died in afghanistan but i’m still rocking”

1:23 we were raised on a tree ✊️😔

I like how Danny isn’t rude with his constructive criticism he genuinely tries to help the person.

i really respect danny for actually trying to understand this guy and help him, not just completely hating on him like everone else. this is one of the reasons you're my favorite youtuber!

To be honest I reckon he'd do realllyyy fucking well in the hyperpop genre, he has the visual aesthetic, the voice, pretty much everything.

"This song slaps on mute" was noticeably funny

Danny and Drew are the prince and princess of the glory days.

I think he would be killing it in the 2010's, the skits felt like early youtube A little cringey but kind of charming, at least i think that

So his hook of "we were the princes and princesses" sounds incredibly similar melodically to the *30STM* song Kings and Queens containing the lyrics "We were the kings and queens..." I am 100% confident he's a parody cause that's too on the nose Edit: Either that or he's drawing WAY too much inspiration from an 11 year old song lol

6:47 Danny this was the exact way you smiled at me when I saw you in public. I'm now extremely offended and have used up 13 deluxe scented tissue boxes with my tears after finding out you find me as visually pleasing and corny as a Joker poster.

Tiktok is so rude fr.💀

Lately I feel like Danny has been making content pretty often and regular and I appreciate that. Thank you Danny Gonzalez. We are Greg!

When musicians on TikTok start a video by saying “Did I just write the next ______ anthem?” Or “Did I just make up a new genre?” They have practically invited everyone to viciously humble them. I cannot imagine a faster way to get everyone rooting against you

tiktok acts like he’s cringey for being emo/punk when they have completely changed the definition of those things

1 year later and the poor dude is still getting hated on on tiktok even though his music really isn’t that bad. Ppl just don’t like things that are different unfortunately. And of course his marketing isn’t top notch so it makes it even easier for people to find things to make fun of

“He has a poster of the joker? Getting kinda hard to defend you my man” *Danny says as he sits in front of a poster of himself using an inhaler*

I like this video so much. Just the message of being more tolerate to people trying to express themselves through their art and Danny’s support to this dude, who btw doesn’t seem to be a bad person, is just nice and cheerful. Thank you

I checked his channel now. He’s pretty successful and all of the comments are good. He clearly listened to this, and his music is also better. All it takes to make someone successful is Danny and the Greg army.

WE MAKIN IT OUT OF 2007 HOT TOPIC WITH THIS ONE🔥💯💯🔥🥶🔥

Watching again this a few months later, and I just wanna let everyone know that Greg did a great job of filling Andy's comments with positivity and support, and the Greg army is strangling out the hateful comments. Im proud of you Greg.

Its... weirdly kind of nice that a huge KZfaqr like Danny just randomly takes the time to make a video giving advice to a small creator on TicTok

just start the video with the song. like could you imagine if a youtuber’s intro was “did i just make the best video ever??”

I know this video is old, but I think the thing with Andy is he can either make music for the community, or make music for himself and build a community around that. There's nothing wrong with either of those routes, as long as you're enjoying it. But Andy is trying to make music for himself and push that music onto the community, and it's clearly not working out. One thing I think might help is cover songs? It helps you get a better grasp of the instruments and singing styles and what you like versus what other people like.

I've grown up on commentary youtube, and honestly, I am so happy it's taking such a positive and lighthearted turn as we all get a little older. I think the community has grown with the genre and this vid is a really good example of how you can be funny while not being mean.

Honestly I really feel bad for this guy. He seems to really be proud of the art he puts out there and I can totally respect that. As a very small artist myself, I know how fucking heartbreaking it'd be to put something out there that you're really proud of only to get that level of hate. It's honestly a pretty scary thought, and I really hope it's something that never happens to me.

Tbh my biggest petty gripe is that his whole vibe & aesthetic is way more scene than emo :/

13:15 woahhhh, that sounds amazing ;0

The people who are saying this is Disney rock really needs to take a step back and realize this is literally exactly how the majority of pop punk songs are.. people are just nostalgic to old emo music and refuse to believe it’s not actually as heavy and dark as they remember it being when they were angsty teens (Edit) Let me add there is nothing wrong with old emo/ pop punk music, it slaps but common guys it’s not far off from this…

I'm so glad Danny didn't just blindly roast this dude like everyone else. Sure, this song is not very good, but it's not THAT bad. Besides, we all gotta start somewhere, and it actually seems he put some effort into it.

I can’t believe the unrelease this comments are still going on everywhere on TikTok it makes me want to delete the internet as a whole

great value TX2 😭

"Unrelease this" cracked me up (the first time), but if I put out some art and got that I think I'd yeet myself out of a plane. I don't think a lot of people think about how disproportionate it is to rag on him this hard for so little. They just saw him feeling himself and his song and decided to knock him down. ALSO. The culture of just ruthlessly knocking on people or cringing at them is so exhaustingly negative and it's also like... discouraging anyone from trying things or sharing them if they can't be instantly popular or monetized or perfect beyond reproach. Very cool to see a more down to earth and chill commentary

the biggest mistake was the "did i just make the new emo anthem?", that immediately raises the standards of what to come next and by failing to live up to those expectations hes bound to get a more of a negative response than if he hadnt done that

I really like how you give constructive criticism too because so many people just say nasty things like ik he’s not for me but let’s not waste our time hating some random dude

8:42 bro sounds like young Sheldon 💀

Never heard about this until now and I just listened to it. It sounds like Kings and Queens by 30 Seconds to Mars if it were watered down, filtered to the bare bones of lyrical writing, and also sung by Shane Dawson. In fact the choruses almost seems identical in melody if you listen to them multiple times. Which isn’t bad per se, he just needs to develop a bit more of his own sound that fits his vocals in a better way.

I feel like if he had released this 10/15 years ago, he would have had a much bigger fan base because it's not so out of place for that time period as it is now. Like it's not awful, it's just not as good as the hype he tried to create which is part of why people are reacting negatively. I'm sure if Andy kept working on his style he'd eventually find more of an audience that digs it

Lesbian roxanne wolf pfp: we know it's you under there Danny Danny: PEOPLE THINK THIS IS ME??

7:43 yeah. that’s tik tok for ya

I really don’t mind the song, but I think what a lot of people didn’t like was him calling it “the next emo anthem.” I think, by doing that, he attracted an audience that’s not his target audience

As someone who was and still sort of is a part of the alt community it doesn’t surprise me how harsh people are being. The alt community is one of the rudest most gatekeeper communities which is why I’ve separated myself from it for the most part.

the "we wanna have a good time" part IM DYING

honestly taking this song and making it more of a "wake me up when September ends" vibe I'm sure more people would enjoy it. honestly the convoluted message he's giving after the fact sucks but if the good intent is there, then that all this guy needs.

"They're not talking to you, they're talking to themselves" is a pretty good assessment of internet hate

i think the biggest problem with the guy's music is he seems like a rhythm guitarist, the type that learned music through singing over acoustic guitar. which is great! but you cant always just take something that sounds good with acoustic guitar and vocals, slam it out on electric, and then sing louder and hope it works. ill bet you ANYTHING he composes on acoustic guitar, relying on his more practiced skills. i do that too, but it's not exactly easy to write electric guitar pieces with an acoustic instrument. that acoustic ballad version of the song is great because the guitar and vocals work together to create a flow. in the electric one, hes using power chords, and longer notes, and he doesnt change the vocals. it just creates an awkward mismatch and it makes it sound like he's singing off tempo. just one notch better at making music, like danny said, and this guy would have it in the bag! he's just missing the mark a little bit on the genre and on a consistent genre, instrument to instrument.

The fact that he says ‘princes’ like ‘prin-sees’ is so infuriating for no reason

“WHO IS THAT” “That’s promotion Andy😀”

The biggest mistake he could've ever done was say "Did I make the newest emo anthem?" because it immediately got himself to be compared to the likes of MCR or PaTD and have his starting song be compared to The Black Parade, which... No, nothing can really be compared to that album nor its most infamous song. It's not just because the song feels like it's going off of scene music rather than emo punk rock, it's also because it's not... unique? Or out there, in terms of the emo nor scene genres. I think he definitely has opportunity. If he were to go back to his laid-back and grounded self and made his own style, I think he'll be able to find his own community. I will say, though, TikTok is very prone to harassing people and repeating jokes that aren't funny after the first time. I'm not surprised that happened.

as an ex/old emo person who shopped only at hot topic, etc, this sounds exactly like something we would’ve listened to. we like the 2010s pop punk music cause of nostalgia, it’s not like it was incredible music

One person who can say he’s weird and be correct, Weird Al.

The gray in Danny’s hair is so cool

I think a big part is that he’s pushing the one song as if he’s an established artist with a new single, as opposed to an enthusiastic unsigned artist. If he released TikToks about his process of writing and recording *other* songs, it wouldn’t come across as so defensive, and he could actually seem to progress as a creator. Going for a “hey, what do you think of this new chorus/lyric/idea” would allow for him to react to feedback, as opposed to spending his time trying to argue about the qualities of his finished song.