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I like how Tim brings up a point about film actors being assholes and then Howie acts like an asshole to that girl for just bringing something up which he didn't think was relevant.

My wife's boyfriend doesn't like Tim's comedy, but I think he's hilarious.

Can’t remember who said it but someone out there brought up a point that Bill Murray movies usually had him acting like a jerk, getting his comeuppance, and changing his ways while Chevy Chase movies he didn’t have arcs like that.

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“I was always distespected and made fun of” “Im sure” Hilarious diss

I think I know what he means, but I'm not sure Bill Murray movies are the best analogy. Scrooged and Groundhog Day are two of the absolute best examples of depicting main characters who are complete assholes that suffer greatly specifically because they're assholes, and only finally achieve happiness after they slowly and painfully learn how to be truly selfless.

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Howie doesn’t even need guests, he’s just going to talk over them all day anyway

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At what point in your life do you decide I'm going to wear sunglasses all the time

Glad they spent at least a little time talking about movies! 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿

I find Tim and Eric extremely hilarious but there is another aspect to their art which I really appreciate which is this really surreal world that exists in their comedy that is super unsettling, almost bordering on like a horror nightmare but then somehow has an endearing quality to it.

Vics mic has been a bit for a while, but I love the full face blockage! Rock it man!

Tim and Eric feels like having a hilarious fever dream. I love it!

This is a great episode for Bobby's World-heads. At five minutes and thirty nine seconds, it's not the longest clip on KZfaq, but it's a good one.

On cinema is the most amazing show I’ve ever seen. It’s hilarious the universe he created is amazing. It’s nothing short of amazing how he was able to look at himself and construct basically the biggest idiot he could is genius Tim Heidecker is a complete and utter genius and if you don’t believe it, it’s because you haven’t seen it.

When you have movies like bill Murray in then you can’t lose

Police Academy? The movie is about a bunch of misfits who try to be cops and the movie makes fun of the police institution all the time. The heroes are only jerks to the authority (Captain Harris, Mouser, etc) and in the end they "save the day". Did he see the movies?

It never occurred to me that Carrot Top had an actual first or last name. Huh, Scott? Never would’ve guessed.

Ayn Rand inspired Reaganism was the philosophy of that era, so it came through in every big movie one way or another, especially comedies. The will of individual men, jerks or not, against the state and fate itself, on a mission to get rich and successful, was the theme in almost every comedy. Practically pointing this out to Zemeckis was the reason Crispin Glover wasn't in Back To The Future 2.

It's fun to see Howie appreciate Tim! He deserves it!

Loved that they mentioned little monsters!

Fun Fact: Tim Heidecker's role in "Eastbound and Down" is 100% based on his real life.

"you can succeed if you're a jerk".... Gets world peace cancelled

Looking forward to the Mandel and Heidecker bluegrass album

“The universe. What a concept” killz me weekly

Nice to see Douggpound

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I would watch normal size monsters if you guys made it!!

dude he’s so intertwined in politics he’s absolutely sick with anger

"I haven't fully thought this out."

Tim has a good point, remember how in Ghostbusters the EPA were the villains? The good guys were the ones printing money with their backstrapped unlicensed nuclear accelerators

I liked it when Howie Mandell starting begging at the end to work with them. That was tbe best part.

I don’t know if you can say that 80’s comedy’s, relative to 80’s right wing politics, are on the same wave length

Never really thought of these old movies as right wing or left wing. What's up with Timmy?

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That hidden face on his sleeve when he puts his arm up at 3:30 😳

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The read of 80s ‘asshole’ comedies is really astute. I like Ghostbusters and Police Academy and those movies, but he’s totally correct the protagonists are slacker, selfish pricks who never really grow or evolve much. Even as a kid, I always thought the way Murray acted in Ghostbusters was kinda offputting and shitty. Still got a lot of redeeming elements, but Tim’s right in that one

Wow. I have newfound respect for carrot top after this video.

4:22 - Tim, it’s not resetting the microwave time, it’s setting the time on the VCR!

I genuinely want to see Normal Sized Monsters

"The lovable asshole" was not a trope because the right wing establishment wanted to brainwash people into being assholes lol, that's just an inherently interesting character archetype. A character being able to get the audience on their side, despite being objectively not a great person, is just the mark of an engaging and charismatic personality. There's just something inherently compelling about guys who are able to be cool while flagrantly not caring about what other people think. But apparently that's "right wing" now?

Those 80s comedies were all anti-establishment. Funny he brings up Police Academy. That’s a film about regular everyday people entering and changing a system. All of Bill Murray’s movies are this basic conceit. If Tim can’t recognize this it might be because he is part of the establishment now. Every late night host proudly displays their politics, which is fine. That’s their choice. But it’s all uniform at this point.

Who would’ve ever thought Howie was so tapped in

Who was Tim referring to in Police academy as being the rewarded asshole? If he’s talking about Mahoney then that’s nothing new and quite classic comedy, so much so that cartoons parodied it e.g. Tom and Jerry, Coyote and the roadrunner, woody woodpecker etc…

Sam Hyde didn’t do it !!!!

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It is weird seeing Tim having a straight conversation.

I take exception to the idea that Bill Murray's characters are rewarded for being assholes. Scrooged, Ground Hog Day, What About Bob, Rushmore, even as far back as Stripes; his characters might start out as assholes, but redeem themselves at the end of the movie. Chevy Chase movies on the other hand, the Fletch character, and Vacation movies had many sequels based on his characters never changing. You want Clark Griswald to flip out and loose it every movie. Or you want Fletch to try some sneaky disguise and get into some crazy situation.

they are really crammed up on that couch

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"I haven't fully thought this out." "-Peter Pan-" Commmeddddy

Which is why I love groundhog Day so much. Phil Connors only gets rewarded once he becomes a good person

howie interviews himself

You need to get these dudes back on your show! You and your daughter have a great vibe

I am new to the Howie experience & I am experienced like a Remora Fishy fish as who wants to touch those urinal handles, door knobs & on occasion *_people who love you to feel their breath so close it doesn't have a chance to cool..._*

"Peter Pan was an asshole kidnapping kids and was rewarded." Ummm, no he wasn't. He was just showing them an dreamworld. Not unlike Mr. Conductor from Shining Time Station.

Kind of a weird take considering a lot of Tim & Eric skits involved Tim being a jerk to Eric (and/or the extras) and getting away with it. In fact, Key and Peele was mostly like that too, with Key being the punching bag.

Eric Wareheim is very Peter Pan-esque

That was surreal.

Trying to wrap my head around Tim Heidecker defending Carrot Top.

That Peter Pan point was really interesting.

I knew I hated tim heidecker but for him to diss 80s comedy, which was fucking great; that's going to far

Wow, unexpected comment section. I think Tim was just making a point about the style of comedy that was common in the 80s, but people really took it personally lol

I love 80s movies. I love Police Academy. I love many Bill Murray movies.

"MF'rs just wanna laugh" - Harris Wittels

Howie is right, Tims universe is so funny to people who are already steeped in comedy and value it more than most things in the world. The satire isn't as accessible as like Christopher Guest movies but you invest in On Cinema it's on the same level.

And I would take a 24 hour marathon of ghostbusters 2 over ghostbusters 2016 anyday!

Hook had the kids as basically slaves on his ship...so

I doubt many standup comedy fans under 40 would know Howie used to do standup 🤔

you need to get dj dougpound a real mic

'Our ironic bad stuff we write out then play to tell jokes is TOTALLY different than their ironic bad stuff they embody personas of to tell jokes.'

Criticizing movies with characters that “succeed as a jerk and a bully” - the guy who helped get MDE’s tv show canceled.

I would class things like American Pie and the more irreverent Will Ferrel movies from the 2000’s as having some of that same vibe Tim’s talking about at the beginning

This explains so much about when he saw MDE and said to shut it down

literally didn't even know Howie Mandel is considered a comedian. He's just the bald goofy dressed suitcase dude

Right wing comedy is seen as being insensitive. They're not gonna care if you call them racist natsees because they get called that anyway for even slightly disagreeing with politically correct groupthink. They'll just roll with it and it's endearing. On the other hand, you have left wing comedy, which is to have no comedy at all. Dave Chappelle, Seinfeld, Chris Rock, and many others have given up performing at college campuses because they crowds are too sensitive. So would you rather have Bill Murray movies, or nothing?

Tim really trying to hide that he doesn’t care for Carrot Top. Neil Hamburger had a bit where he shits on Carrot Top for being a prop comic 😂

That is literally Tim’s character in comedy. And Bill wasn’t a dick to just be a dick. He often played a jaded or disgruntled man, who then learns his lesson by the end of the film.

I do think a lot of audiences misinterpret Bill Murray. First, he was never a jerk to minorities - only to people in power (mayors, rich stiffs, etc.), second, his "jerk" qualities were his flaws. In Ghostbusters he comes on way to strong to Dana and is super annoying initially, but when he finds her possessed he doesn't take advantage of the situation because he actually cares. He even apologizes to Jeanine the one time he makes an actually mean comment ("the bug eyes"). You can even see this in George Carlin's act - he behaves like an asshole, while saying the most un-asshole things. The problem was most Americans particularly because they were conservative could never get past the surface level of these characters. Really more of an indictment of us, than it was of them. Another important thing to note: Almost all of Bill Murray's characters either started out poor and on the brink, or were just fired. Scrooged and Groundhog's Day being the exceptions.

The Candyman is coming, think it, dream it, do it.

Comedians talking about comedy is fascinating.

TIL Carrot Tops' real name is Scott.

“*ssholes who are rewarded for being *ssholes.” Sounds like projection. Amirite? Heyyyy-oh!

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I don't know who that girl is but I am certain she is Howie's daughter. Same humor and nose.❤

Why didnt tim talk about beef house?

i love when tim talks comedy, so funny ! 😂

Is Tim's entire On Cinema schtick not based on the asshole of assholes being rewarded for being an asshole? I guess the irony and parody of it all shows the genius of Tim. Zero Hour is coming any day!

2024 Still waiting for, 'Normal Size Monsters'.

Sam Hyde has become the new Tim, and Tim has become the new Steven Colbert.

Tim Heidecker worked to get a comedian's show cancelled...because he did not like this comedian's edgy style of comedy. Think about it, this guy made it his mission to prevent another comedian from earning money. Tims funny and makes great content but having to resort to Karen mode and "talk to the manager" made me lose all respect for him.

Great insight and perspective from what it's like to be there

MDE Never dies.

Oh, Vic Berger there too, his videos are always must see, genius.

Politics make me sad so I ignore them. I wonder if that makes politicians sad. Great! Now we are equal.

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