Tim Minchin on courting controversy | One Plus One

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3 жыл бұрын

Tim Minchin has come a long way from his early days growing up in Perth. The award winning comedian, actor, and songwriter has become an international star by pushing boundaries, and courting controversy.
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@kimroberts7006
@kimroberts7006 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Black woman and a huge Tim Minchin fan. I for one am glad that he wrote "Prejudice" as I find it a perfect metaphor for why the "N" word is offensive when used by those outside of our race even though you would think it should be obvious. It's one of my favourite songs of his. It's also the best use of misdirection in a song ever. I love watching reaction videos to it immensely.
@PianoDiary85
@PianoDiary85 Жыл бұрын
me too, it's a shame he doesn't like it any more.
@jackwhitbread4583
@jackwhitbread4583 9 ай бұрын
​@@PianoDiary85he never liked it that much, he wrote it in 10 minutes while sat on the toilet and honestly he's right, it's over played, over hyped and vastly overrated. I'd literally choose any Tim Minchin song over Prejudice.
@crashtestcal6484
@crashtestcal6484 2 жыл бұрын
Tim says at 15.40: “Maybe that’s how we move forward, we make sure people like me don’t get second chances.” Cancel culture is not the way forward in my opinion.
@carolinehaf21
@carolinehaf21 3 жыл бұрын
I could already listen to you both separately forever but when you add honest discourse to the mix, wow! Very important questions and I think the tone was amazing... I love both of you and have seen your range of works. Tim, you are respected here, and I hope you feel that as the years go on. Stan, I love how you engage personally and don't just ask robotic questions. Beautifully done!
@winwinnorris9490
@winwinnorris9490 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in an Aboriginal family. And not once did I ever hear that word. I heard all the others. I think it's a case of too much American television.
@JohnA.Zoidberg
@JohnA.Zoidberg 3 жыл бұрын
Aboriginal is another word for native. I'm a European aboriginal. I've never lived anywhere but in my native country. Using that term to describe yourself doesn't make sense. At home you're simply you. Which easily the most comforting thing. The abstract knowledge that you're nothing special and you don't need to be where you're at home.
@grahamcruice574
@grahamcruice574 3 жыл бұрын
I am a big fan of Tim Minchin but I think Stan Grant was much to interested in his wealth than the person and was good to see Tim Minchin run rings around him with answers he really could not fathom
@jaynegrant3133
@jaynegrant3133 3 жыл бұрын
Well.... I could listen to these gentlemen for quite a bit longer. Thank you.
@brendancook7611
@brendancook7611 Жыл бұрын
Can’t help but respect Tim’s view on where and how he fits in the world… he has and will continue to change the world within his industry, and he will be humble about it… BUT he understands the impact he has on others in the process… so smart, so relaxed, so defiant, and so fcking awesome, Tim understands his influence…. Both he and I are Perth boys and we chose different directions….. still can’t help to feel an affinity to him..
@ReallyGottaTap
@ReallyGottaTap 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't help but feel that Stan was attacking Minchin over and over. Kudos for keeping cool, Tim. And as thoughtful and articulate as always. Stan may need some therapy. Tim tackles the hard questions daily, that's who he is. Stan's aggression was so unwarranted. The deep, interesting conversation this could have been was overshadowed by something mean spirited.
@gloryglory5688
@gloryglory5688 Жыл бұрын
Pffft fvckwit
@fransmith3255
@fransmith3255 Жыл бұрын
It's very strange indeed that you got that impression. Perhaps it stems from some kind of prejudice? I got the very opposite impression. And I'm an empath - I feel emotion directly pouring off the screen from anything I watch. I felt nothing but admiration from Stan towards Tim. Did you not see that when Tim was talking about "Welcome to Country", that Stan actually was very, VERY emotional? He seemed like he was holding back tears. I admire both men and I thought both men were brilliant.
@PianoDiary85
@PianoDiary85 Жыл бұрын
I felt that he actually had massive respect.
@JoelWende
@JoelWende 3 жыл бұрын
I could genuinely have listened to this for 5 hours! Excellent!
@crashtestcal6484
@crashtestcal6484 2 жыл бұрын
Is a Japanese man who grows up comfortably in Japan an example of Asian privilege? Or does race privilege only exist in free and open multicultural western societies? Does Brown privilege, or Arab privilege, or Han Chinese privilege, or Black privilege exist in any foreign countries or cultures?
@D2ezbmu
@D2ezbmu 2 жыл бұрын
Essentially it’s if ur middle upper or just upper class rich. The white privilege moniker is more vast in America because of slavery and Jim Crow era. But it’s been bastardized to mean just about anything these days. It’s getting to oppression olympics levels over here.
@Babyluthi
@Babyluthi 3 жыл бұрын
Superb. I wish it went longer. A podcast series with these two gentlemen, I would love to hear😊 Thanks!
@TheSkaveneer
@TheSkaveneer 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with this show, but the questioning, particularly at the start of the interview, came off super aggressive.
@RLeaguer_Saint
@RLeaguer_Saint 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely hated this. You have someone like Tim Minchin to chat to, with all his talent, achievement and more importantly, humility and respect for others, and you spend 95% of the interview getting him to play identity politics. What a waste. He has nothing to apologize for, and because he isn’t the ignorant narcissist your questions portrayed him to be, he humbly accepted your unrecognizable characterization of him anyway. What a waste of an opportunity to have a meaningful conversation with someone who has interesting things to say. And by the way, absolutely YES, ‘The Dreaming’ is no different than other religions, which use demonstrably false narratives to subjugate others and ignore its pitiful lack of evidence. It represents, as ALL religions do, the period of ignorance of our species of biological and environmental causality, and those who perpetuate it now, do so knowingly that bereft of evidence, it can nonetheless be used to assert dominance and power over the credulous. Your religion doesn’t get a special pass, because white people acted abominably in usurping your country. I came here to see what Tim had to say, not to see how much he would apologize for his identity - his work speaks to that, if you’d only listen.
@PianoDiary85
@PianoDiary85 Жыл бұрын
Tim talks a lot about this kind of stuff, not just with this interviewer. it's something he is genuinely interested in.
@uu119816
@uu119816 3 жыл бұрын
Tim Minchin is for people who still earnestly quote Monty Python
@anthonyalfredwhite
@anthonyalfredwhite 3 жыл бұрын
A skinny wannabe Bill Bailey without the ability to laugh at himself, or indeed much.
@will5940
@will5940 3 жыл бұрын
I think you might have it a little wrong here; he’s genuinely trying to respond to the interview with the seriousness and gravity it deserves, it’s not requiring flippancy or satire.
@anthonyalfredwhite
@anthonyalfredwhite 3 жыл бұрын
​@@will5940It's that such a lightweight, non-entity of satire, with nothing that comes close to what most people would call 'controversial', is interviewed for this drivel.
@uu119816
@uu119816 3 жыл бұрын
@@will5940 30 minutes of hand-wringing. Great.
@jackwhitbread4583
@jackwhitbread4583 9 ай бұрын
​@@anthonyalfredwhite😂😂😂😂. Yeah sorry but how many musicals has hack Bailey composed??? Yeah exactly. Stfu
@Anne--Marie
@Anne--Marie 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't the correct interviewer because he doesn't get Tim Minchin. It's a damned shame. When I first listened to his music, I'd wished that he was my son. It didn't take long before I began to wish that he was my father. Having grown up in a humorless, abusive atmosphere, his music is surprisingly cathartic. Thank you!
@peacefulisland67
@peacefulisland67 3 жыл бұрын
This is about reconciliation and making amends. Changing the way we think and behave. Most of us cringe thinking about the things we said and did an the past BECAUSE we didn't do anything to reverse the karma, or effects of the causes. If wrongness is done, doing right corrects the heading; doing right with intention to BE different cleans up the mess instead of leaving it for others.
@budawang77
@budawang77 3 жыл бұрын
We have to be careful about going too far down the path of identity politics. It isn't working out too well in the USA. Tim Minchin feeling constantly compelled to apologise for being a white male is rather cringeworthy. Privilege comes in many different forms that are not exclusively white or male.
@mysticaltreeirl
@mysticaltreeirl 3 жыл бұрын
he shouldn’t need to apologise but however hes amazing for admitting it because most privilege comes from being white and/or male
@gloryglory5688
@gloryglory5688 Жыл бұрын
The conversation was profoundly Australian, I don’t care if you find an equivalent situation where you’re from, this has to be put into context, I don’t think you’re going to get it being from somewhere else
@PianoDiary85
@PianoDiary85 Жыл бұрын
He isn't apologising. He is simply recognising that he does come from a more privileged place than many other people. He is extremely self aware and it helps to keep him grounded.
@tjjm1907
@tjjm1907 Жыл бұрын
I am always glad to get to hear Tim's opinions.
@carringtonlefayette8644
@carringtonlefayette8644 3 жыл бұрын
Tim is beyond fabulous.
@TinshipTravels
@TinshipTravels 3 жыл бұрын
is there an extended version of this? It got so good at the end.
@FateDelamorte
@FateDelamorte 3 жыл бұрын
Tim Minchin is a Iegend, the world would be a worse place had he not been able to write some of the incredibly clever music that he has created.
@anthonyalfredwhite
@anthonyalfredwhite 3 жыл бұрын
It's absolute drivel. Broaden your horizons.
@Babyluthi
@Babyluthi 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyalfredwhite Gaw...who stole your food bowl??
@Amanda-fv5ju
@Amanda-fv5ju 3 жыл бұрын
There is no way to know what George Carlin and Robin Williams would have said about 2020 and the end Trump’s Presidency-- Tim PLEASE let the crazy white gun-toting, ,God-fearing Americans inspire you!!!! This horrible situation can surely produce excellent jokes haha I live in SC (“Deep South” United States) a place where truth and humor are both in short supply. Thank you for the laughs ❤️
@benneden2580
@benneden2580 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome discussion. I know Stan gets criticised for talking too much, but he is always informed and asking interesting questions.
@bradad2026
@bradad2026 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely disappointing not to have had more of an insight into the amazing talent and personality of Tim Minchin and less time spent comparing 'privileged' upbringings with other circumstances. I thought One Plus One was an opportunity to learn more about an individual rather than promoting a personal agenda.
@redrock1963
@redrock1963 3 жыл бұрын
Stan loves the sound of his own opinion.
@wolfgangvonuce9615
@wolfgangvonuce9615 3 жыл бұрын
How so?
@redrock1963
@redrock1963 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangvonuce9615 - While attempting to get to a question to his guest, he rambles on and editorializes as he goes while being far too "wordy" and stating the (general) obvious. I do appreciate that he is intelligent and does do his research but....time and place. This is an opinion I have come to after seeing Stan do interviews and commentary on many shows over a fair amount of time - not just this interview with Tim Minchin.
@seriousmonkey5654
@seriousmonkey5654 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. But it is ABC.
@shambhalawarrior7078
@shambhalawarrior7078 3 жыл бұрын
Loved it - the dialogue was the best bit.
@RadhE-ug6on
@RadhE-ug6on 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you both.
@GardensOnlineVideo
@GardensOnlineVideo 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Tim, made to feel so uncomfortable - but for what? To reveal more about Tim or to assuage Stan's shoulder chips? I expected more of these two great communicators.
@PianoDiary85
@PianoDiary85 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you've watched many interviews with Tim. He often talks about this stuff. He is very self aware. He likes talking about it.
@lesleyvass8739
@lesleyvass8739 3 жыл бұрын
More of this, please!
@maryfitzpatrick3252
@maryfitzpatrick3252 Жыл бұрын
Tim is a humanist. 😍
@bushtucker66
@bushtucker66 3 жыл бұрын
Does Stan Grant ever do an interview where colour is not mentioned? Its become tedious. I couldnt last the whole interview/rant. What a wasted opportunity.
@kristinestout1170
@kristinestout1170 8 ай бұрын
"Prejudice" is a song about white privilege victims. Witty and clever and arrogant. Totally great! Love you, Tim!
@judools12
@judools12 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think the 'Predudce ' song is all bad because it helped me as a privilaged white female uderstand more about cultrual appropiation.
@terryjross1184
@terryjross1184 2 жыл бұрын
Worst interview I've seen From the outset grant set his prey up Rich white privelige as opposed to ......... Represents everything going wrong when a comedian is publicly lynched I stupidly tuned in expecting to hear about the gingas life and works such as 'upright' which I thought was excellent Then I checked to see the subject matter was identity And the opening line 'who are you ? ' was frightening lol
@alanhewson6626
@alanhewson6626 3 жыл бұрын
This is Technicolor. Shows what creatives can do with a black and white dialogue of friendly understanding. G'dongya mates.
@chrisschneider7609
@chrisschneider7609 3 жыл бұрын
Can you guys make a longer chat! Listening to Tim is a privilege we don't get a lot. Stan although I don't know much of him seems like a great person to be able to have this conversation. I do though wish Tim could be a little less judgemental of himself. Prejudice as a song IMHO is a great conversation starter even in your own head. It makes something unobtainable for many White people a little closer to a taste of actual prejudice. The start of the song gives people the welling of having the N-word conversation but then gives permission.
@babybear17091980
@babybear17091980 Жыл бұрын
Stan should learn not to talk over the top of those he's interviewing.
@neorich59
@neorich59 2 жыл бұрын
Great interview. Love Tim Minchin and the interviewer, besides being easy on the eye was really interesting too. Who is he? As a confirmed "leftie" for nigh on 40 years, I'm frankly bewildered by a lot of what's going on today. People *do* make mistakes (and learn from them!) but if you held some of the things people said and did in the past (especially my generation, among whom casual and even overt racism/sexism/homophobia were the norm) we'd all be "cancelled" Me, as much as anyone!
@sharoncole3472
@sharoncole3472 Жыл бұрын
❤❤Thank goodness for Tim Minchin •°~▪︎ And his words of wisdom ☆•° ❤🙏
@KickassUncle
@KickassUncle 2 жыл бұрын
Tim, of course, the DREAMING is BS.
@peacefulisland67
@peacefulisland67 3 жыл бұрын
"Religion" is "rejoining". What an individual does with it is something else.
@kinarrakid5036
@kinarrakid5036 3 жыл бұрын
Geez, it's all about race and privilege to Stan. Couldn't watch past 10 minutes.
@Babyluthi
@Babyluthi 3 жыл бұрын
Watch it, Tim's great!😃
@darbz2k
@darbz2k 3 жыл бұрын
He’s like that in every interview. Yawn.
@terribletelevision6980
@terribletelevision6980 3 жыл бұрын
Love you Tim! Such a smart and clever person that I aspire to be like. I feel like there was a bit of shade thrown at Perth in this video though! It’s not too bad.
@sweetsyerra
@sweetsyerra Жыл бұрын
Tim may check all of the boxes of "white male privilege" but it was just how he was born. It's what he has done (or not done) with that that's important. And I think he's turned out very well.
@PianoDiary85
@PianoDiary85 Жыл бұрын
I could have listened for another hour.. or 2 or 3.
@INSIGHTSAU
@INSIGHTSAU 3 жыл бұрын
What a truly embarrassing interview. Cringe worthy. Stan I have the utmost respect for you but if you want to interview yourself maybe don’t invite someone else along and if you want to take a swipe at someone get your arguments in order.
@mailill
@mailill 3 ай бұрын
Identity politics attacking people for what families they happen to be born into instead of attacking the system and the people in power who still profit on wars and oppression, and the hidden colonialism of our time. And part of this is also neoliberalism making social mobility much, much harder - or even impossible - for the unprivileged. I think Tim is a great artist, btw. And also he seems to be very intelligent.
@ldygzlle1291
@ldygzlle1291 2 жыл бұрын
I love Tim's older stuff
@joshuahargreavesmassage
@joshuahargreavesmassage 3 жыл бұрын
The world is the world. It’s for those who CHOOSE to make the most of it. No one is “privileged” anymore. Anyone can do anything they put their mind to. Some might have to work harder than others but that isn’t only based on Race, Gender, or Sexual preference. A straight white male might have a more difficult experience than a homosexual woman of colour. To say otherwise completely underestimates a large number of individual lived experiences. I’m not saying the history isn’t what it is or that these people don’t have individual struggles but it is history. Sure some people are still bigots, and have their opinions, However opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and some are shitty.
@Lucaserik
@Lucaserik 2 жыл бұрын
Well we shouldn't choose to look the other way because people are "fairly" equal in most developed countries, should we? Just because there are exceptions to every rule doesn't mean we should let that rule stay.
@marymary1888
@marymary1888 3 жыл бұрын
Stan stop sun-baking
@happivaras
@happivaras 11 ай бұрын
Yes you are correct Stan All imagibary gibbering is the problem.
@petereiso5415
@petereiso5415 3 жыл бұрын
If he wants to see himself he either looks in the mirror, or he looks at a photo of himself.
@sandaasfilmfestival1540
@sandaasfilmfestival1540 3 жыл бұрын
who else rolled their eyes when Stan said "i have travelled all over the world"
@fransmith3255
@fransmith3255 Жыл бұрын
Why? True statement. He has actually travelled all over the world...
@jdsartre9520
@jdsartre9520 Жыл бұрын
why have shame about being a human?
@SHARON.I
@SHARON.I 8 ай бұрын
Lol Scam um that was a slip✌️👍
@mercurymermaid69
@mercurymermaid69 3 жыл бұрын
✨ 🌈 🙏 My two fav people 💚🌻🦘🐨🇦🇺🧞‍♂️
@moniquelaviolette3090
@moniquelaviolette3090 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@kateybear8323
@kateybear8323 3 жыл бұрын
Blah!! What a croc!
@forbearancemp5283
@forbearancemp5283 3 жыл бұрын
Very generous of you Stan.
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