Tim Stratton Is Actually Reformed?!

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2 жыл бұрын

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@Angel-JC.Saves777
@Angel-JC.Saves777 2 жыл бұрын
been a arminian for ten years the LORD opened my eyes to the doctrines of grace now what i once called demonic at one point i call divine truth. Im a calvinist
@sarahd5341
@sarahd5341 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! 🙌🏻
@Christ-or-Chaos
@Christ-or-Chaos 2 жыл бұрын
His mercy endures forever!
@Arabian_Epileptic
@Arabian_Epileptic 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@majesticrainmaker1460
@majesticrainmaker1460 2 жыл бұрын
Well I won't neccesarily say Demonic but is utterly false.
@tricord2939
@tricord2939 2 жыл бұрын
@@majesticrainmaker1460 In what way?
@rmsmin
@rmsmin 2 жыл бұрын
Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? (Romans 9:19-20 KJV)
@mkshffr4936
@mkshffr4936 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds to me like his belief is a lot like that of Arminius.
@billbarrie6229
@billbarrie6229 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, James, Tim hates the meaning of the term Election even the word Grace means "UNDESERVED" and if we're allowed to make a choice then it's no longer Grace
@gregmahler9506
@gregmahler9506 2 жыл бұрын
Dang. That was a "micdrop" video! As I said on the previous video, I think Unconditional Election disproves Middle Knowledge or at least demonstrates that if God possesses it, He did not use it in the decree(s) of individual election to Salvation., thus MK becomes virtually irrelevant. (Romans 9:10-16)
@Zaloomination
@Zaloomination 2 жыл бұрын
I think Total Depravity disproves MK also, because there is no possible world in which any rebel child of wrath would freely choose God. Guess that's why they reject it.
@Pastor_Chief
@Pastor_Chief Жыл бұрын
As a Calvinist with Molinist leanings, I often find that Tim is punching above his weight when it comes to theological debate. Sometimes Tim argues in a way that is so simple that it almost looks like he is new to Molinism. Calvinists can affirm mere-Molinism and still be a 5-point Calvinist, or at least close to being completely 5-point. This topic almost seems like a waste of energy and time and I would rather see these guys tag-team another religion/cult/progressive Christian movement. It would be much more beneficial if these guys tackled Bethel's theology, or Steven Furtick for instance, and not each other.
@CoachEgg
@CoachEgg 3 ай бұрын
I'm a friend of his on Facebook, and when I challenged him on his view of Scripture, he told me that he only debated people who earned Doctorates. Since I only have an MDiv, I am not worthy.
@Angel-JC.Saves777
@Angel-JC.Saves777 2 жыл бұрын
they cant have best of both worlds. They are double minded being carried away by every wind of doctrine. Ive been reading the articles of the synod of dort its an awesome read.
@ehudsdagger5619
@ehudsdagger5619 2 жыл бұрын
For the uninitiated, what is EDD?
@oracleoftroy
@oracleoftroy 2 жыл бұрын
It stands for "Eternal Divine Determinism" and those who use the term are pretty much always anti-Calvinists who have in mind a fatalistic definition of determinism that has zero room for human free will as the Reformed confessions affirm, thus making it a strawman version of the Reformed position.
@ehudsdagger5619
@ehudsdagger5619 2 жыл бұрын
@@oracleoftroy That’s really helpful. Thank you answering my question.
@TheChurchSplit
@TheChurchSplit 2 жыл бұрын
Exhaustive Divine Determinism
@kelslo74
@kelslo74 Жыл бұрын
Thank you,never heard of it lol
@kevinbratton670
@kevinbratton670 7 ай бұрын
the debate was painful, Tim seems like a nice brother but not a very good debater, started talking about Thanos when the thesis was is molinism biblical, I nearly feel of my chair the second time he did it.
@amichiganblackman3200
@amichiganblackman3200 2 жыл бұрын
It's always amazing to me how consistently people who reject God's freedom to predestine and elect call Him a "moral monster". Most also say that if Reformed Theology were true they would refuse to worship Him.
@wojak91
@wojak91 2 жыл бұрын
cause it seems to be nothing other than unregenerate men speaking out of their flesh. God's sovereignty over man's ruined soul is the most offensive thing imaginable to the unregenerate heart. In other words, the flesh HATES God's GRACE. It will kick and scream and climb mountains in order to find a way to preserve any boast in the flesh (MY decision).
@jordanmisumi
@jordanmisumi 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed when I read that
@Bewareofthewolves
@Bewareofthewolves 2 жыл бұрын
Edit: “I celebrate 𝘊𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳 Reformation Day every year”
@jordanmisumi
@jordanmisumi 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@jalapeno.tabasco
@jalapeno.tabasco 4 ай бұрын
considering Molinism comes from the counter reformation, that's accurate
@michaelventer885
@michaelventer885 2 жыл бұрын
Stratton is low fruit. NWU made a mistake with accepting his PHD proposal. I know few people there, somehow his desseration is lost in the database so I can't interact with it. Bignon got it somehow, mabey he got the book? Don't know, but he shreaded it with a full response. NWU is not what it used to be. Stil good Profs there but in twighligt of their careers.
@1freedbyjesus
@1freedbyjesus 7 ай бұрын
People use the term Reformed to mean different things at different times. Human language just works that way. I barked STOP IT at my dog for barking at the squirrels running along the bark on the tree. Sometimes people use the term Reformed to basically mean the five points of Calvinism. Sometimes people use the term Reformed to basically mean the basic tenets of the Protestant Reformation.
@BanJ0e82
@BanJ0e82 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone wants to be Reformed until it’s time to do Reformed things.
@troy5659
@troy5659 2 жыл бұрын
What is EDD?
@atmplays5564
@atmplays5564 2 жыл бұрын
I think exhaustive divine determinism
@troy5659
@troy5659 2 жыл бұрын
@@atmplays5564 Thanks
@oracleoftroy
@oracleoftroy 2 жыл бұрын
As already noted, it stands for "Eternal Divine Determinism", though those who use the term are pretty much always anti-Calvinists who have in mind a fatalistic definition of determinism that has zero room for human free will as the Reformed confessions affirm, thus making it a strawman version of the Reformed position.
@atmplays5564
@atmplays5564 2 жыл бұрын
@@oracleoftroy ikr have you ever run into a non-Calvinist that say calvinists believe in no sense of free will/human responsibly. Or that we believe people are mere puppets. Terrible straw mans lol
@oracleoftroy
@oracleoftroy 2 жыл бұрын
@@atmplays5564 Yeah. The few who actually acknowledge it stand out, though too many will just dismiss it anyway as not "real" free will (whatever that means) and argue against the strawman anyway. The anti-Calvinist I respect most is Jerry Walls as he would take great care to define Calvinism from the historic confessions and understood the distinction between libertarianism and compatiblism. By being so careful and honest, he ended up not having a very good argument, basically saying Calvinism isn't "intuitive", which won't convince anyone who hasn't developed the same intuition.
@JohnQPublic11
@JohnQPublic11 2 жыл бұрын
I think Uncle Jimmy puts Cousin Timmy in his place on this one.
@douglasmcnay644
@douglasmcnay644 2 жыл бұрын
Are you feeling alright? Maybe you need to go lie down...
@introvertedchristian5219
@introvertedchristian5219 2 жыл бұрын
Not everything that came out of the reformation was Calvinism, though, was it? How did Calvinism and Reformed theology become synonymous? Or are they? What's the difference? Isn't Calvinism just one manifestation of reformed theology. Does "reformed theology" mean "the theology that came out of the reformation," or does it have a different meaning?
@Phill0old
@Phill0old 2 жыл бұрын
Reformed theology is the theology, in essence, of those called the Reformers who are post Luther. Calvin was the most effective at compiling the central doctrines in written form so the two became almost synonymous.
@introvertedchristian5219
@introvertedchristian5219 2 жыл бұрын
@@Phill0old So Luther himself was not a reformer? Why did some peoples who were part of the reformation became known as "reformers" while others didn't? Was it just an accident of history that "reformers" and "reformed theology" became associated with certain points of view while other theologians and theologies that came out of the reformation didn't?
@Phill0old
@Phill0old 2 жыл бұрын
@@introvertedchristian5219 Luther was, in the end, a reformer but he is generally dealt with separately. There were many reformers, they held the same theology broadly speaking except Luther who didn't manage to shake off all of his Roman Catholic background. Of course there were also many heretics around at the time.
@TheChurchSplit
@TheChurchSplit 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. White, this is one areas we will never agree, but I look forward to the debate :)
@hondotheology
@hondotheology 2 жыл бұрын
lolol no. no no. noooooooo
@ghostl1124
@ghostl1124 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps those disputing such issues would better use their time sharing the gospel with the lost, and helping the poor, and providing health care and prayers for the sick. This debate is interesting the first, second, and maybe the third time, but after that, it becomes like children in the marketplace complaining because they played their flutes, and people refuse to dance to their tunes. Jesus mocked such as these.
@Phill0old
@Phill0old 2 жыл бұрын
Well since JW and others do both what's the problem? We preach to every creature, in and out the church.
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