Hey dude, i own a scooter right now, a new 125cc Piaggio Medley, first 2 wheeler, i would like to own a svartpilen 401 , would it be a good first bike? I'm 6'2. Just asking someone with some experience. Have a good day

@@at9670 I honestly don't think you could choose a better bike, it's literally a perfected ktm, thats saying alot

To be far most bikes will look small when you’re that tall!

@@Ebbeebbeee hey adrian! We have the same name! Btw thanks for the answer, i read it late, i was scared off from the Husqvarna because of it's speed, i bought a royal Enfield Interceptor 650 (2020). A good learner bike, on the heavy side, really well built but with cheaper parts of course. Amazing 270° parallel twin sound after i changed the air filter and cover. So I'm planning to keep it for a year, then I'm looking for my next motorcycle, I'm really frustrated because i have two choices, a more well suited XSR700 for my daily commute, or the Husqvarna Svartpilen, a more focused adrenaline machine. What do you think?

@@at9670 honestly go for a Honda cb650 or cbr650. Or a vitpilen/svartpilen 701 ktm Duke 790 on the higher end of performance, I would also recommend if you're looking a for a daily commuter in the city or a place with not that many highways get a supermoto. I would also suggest for you to stay away from the xsr 700 as you will become rapidly bored and looking to upgrade seeing as you started on a int 650 it would be faster for a week and then you would be disappointed, so any of those would be a good bike in my opinion ask any questions you want sir

That would be good

That is what you would call shooting yourself in the foot, especially for KTM. They would made a pretty duke 890r with clip-ons which would probably be the best street bike that could be trackable and probably ruin their 890r sales.

@@NFStheStig Ya, but where are those missing sales going? Back to them. But with additional dealers.

Bring back the 990!!

I want Vitpilen 801 or 901🔥🤙

Thank you

@@RarefiedRoad pm

More like 3-4 but sure… considering it will begin to stall in gear below 3

Yes and that LESS FUEL somehow still gives you MORE MILEAGE so it is cheap to fill up. I got 200 miles out of it easily by the end.

yes, vit701 gives you the perfect sport riding position and proportion. 401 looks cramped, the bike is too small

I hope I do get to try the 401 this year, the Svartpilen is definitely on my radar so we shall see.

I’ve got the Svart 401 (18) and has the great looks, poise, characterful engine and just wants to play. I’ve not ridden the 701 but the obvious advantage of the 401 is lower running costs and being able to really exploit the performance in more locations. In the words of my mate: ‘it makes you want to ride like a dick the whole time’... up to you to judge whether that’s a good thing or not. In my experience it’s a brilliant bike if you ride mainly for fun but not suited to long distance or commuting.

@@timparkhouse9925 I understand where he his coming from. I love my Svartpilen 401. People say it's like a toy. Yes, that's why I love it. I take it around town and down dirt farm roads. Everybody loves it and stop me to ask questions (Michigan, USA)

Have 7k miles on my 401 Svart and I’m not parting with because it’s the most fun I’ve had on asphalt for $5K! That said, I’d love to give the 701 a dance (looks rad in blue), but I’m not keen on the tail section, mirrors, instrumentation, or bars. Easy fix for all but that rear; looks like a fish w it’s tail bitten off. P.S. Instrument cluster is lousy design, but for the cash needed to road blast, we’ll worth it.

Thanks man

Yeah this one has zero pillion room. I'd be the same as you though, I think the Vitpilen looks better but I'd buy the Svartpilen.

@@RarefiedRoad How do they both compare to the Guzzi V7? Which do you prefer?

I prefer the V7 personally but that's just my taste.

bad winners is offering a dash replacement on this coming september :)

I think the same, it's the only disturbing thing

Buy one in a heartbeat...without lookin at speedo

Keep your eyes on the road ;)

No bike is perfect.

Similar in class but worlds apart for comfort or performance. If you were keeping both there's a lot of contrast between them so it would be a nice bit of variety.

Same

7:08, his legs weren't close to anything

Never had any problems last season and nearly 4,000 miles mate. Mixed city, town, backroads. Give it shot!

Possibly. I've heard that from people who work with them a lot. They say that it's a bit of a lottery sometimes with the gearbox.

I have noticed that after the software update (mine is a 2020) the quick shifter improved dramatically, as well as less chuggyness at low RPMs. It’s smoother, has a loud pop where I guess it cuts timing in 2-3, and seems more reliable at low speeds. Present surprise. I had a friend test it out too and he reported it felt much better 🤷‍♂️

Quick shifter on my 2019 Vit ... Lars ... is like as smooth as silk. Just get over the idea of a solid punch and it pops up or down like butta. But yea, finding neutral can be a pain. Me though , the need to pop it into neutral is pretty rare. BTW, love the overhead drone shot at the bend in the road! Woof!

Thanks

I believe so

Yeah I think that one's more my taste actually

@@RarefiedRoad I own one and it puts a smile on my face more than any of the 12 other bikes I've owned. They are so raw and engaging.

@@RarefiedRoad I think the Svart would definitely be you kinda thing, based in other bike you like. Svartpilen doin what a svartpilen is supposed to do #gravelroads instagram.com/p/CQY2AkDHAfMGpXx53-rFeW1C8KluJGP8LNew680/?

DS have a go at Royal Enfield Continental GT650. It might surprise you.

I'm not sure how it will cope with the heat. I had it during a bit of a heat wave and it didn't seem happy when I took the cover off (which to be fair will have raised the temperature a fair bit) as for living with it as a daily rider I don't think it would be my first pick if I rode every day but twice a week is fine, anything more than that and I think the comfort would frustrate me.

ktm duke 790 or 890 should fit your demands

I think they're tubeless actually

Won't be as comfortable on the highway but it's still a good bike for the money.

I did a 2500 mile ride last season from PA to TN along the spine of the Appalachians. Even worked out n attached a set of pannier luggage. Frigging awesome! Never got tired. Never wished I had had anything different. This sucker totally rocks! Gawd I love punchin it!

Then get the Svartpilen 701

Tubeless, says on the rim at 1:22

coolio9491 But he just says "spoke wheels" he doesnt tell if its tube or tubeless......

You heard 😂

I believe so

Sure thing, akront wheels support them!

Actually yes I think it is

if you've never ridden i would recommend a 125. if you are responsible i'd recommend a 300-500 to learn to ride, you don't want to wash the rear from giving too much gas on a torque bomb like this becasue of a lack of experience

Depends where you train really as some countries riding standards are extremely poor and driving standards even worse. If you're confident with road craft then yes. If you don't know what road craft is get a 125cc for a year or two.

You will looking stupid if you don't get one 😂 I own one, best hooligan bike

I know, it would be an easy upgrade for them.

It does feel pretty small

I'm not sure I'm qualified to answer as I haven't done the research but if you type in vitpilen 401 faults on Google in sure you'll find a forum chat. Only thing I'm aware of on some ktm and husqvarna models are gearbox issues or overheating on older 390's

The 401 is the same engine as the 390 ktm models. In the earlier models there certainly were problems with gearbox, heat and head gasket. I had an RC 390 and had the gearbox fail multiple times till I gave it back to the dealership. But that was a 2015 model. Supposedly they got much better with reliability, but I can't confirm that.

I have a 701, it’s no Honda that’s for sure. I have had some weird electrical issues. Nothing that has persisted through restarts though. No issues That have effected actually riding.

I have a 2018 401 vitpilen, haven’t had a single issue 🏍😎😀👍

@@mmwbike have you went back to the dealer for the software updates?

a very good deal

@@patrickwassall116 thanks

It's not a wrap the 2020 model has some nice colour options

@@RarefiedRoad ok i have little lighter version 250 cc and its only available in black

They are

cb650 it's just good, good bike, perfect commuter imho, 701 will try to made a hooligan out of you... all the time.

nah.. suspension is much better.. fully adjustable front rear wp ... quickshifter auto blipper the .. the front brake is different.. extended front.. imo more comfy than the 690.. rides better im otoo.. owned both.. and yeah it looks much nicer too (to me).. would u call a mt 07 and xsr 700 or tenere 700 the same bike too? id reckon not....

@@sometimesitstays the Duke R comes with fully adjustable WP suspension and M50 Brembos mate, also lean sensitive traction control. These bikes do not only share the same engine but also the same chassis. The Duke comes with wider higher up handle bars so I don't understand how the Vit would be more comfortable to ride aswell. Not sure about the MT07 and XSR but the Tenere most definitely does not share a chassis with the MT07..In short the KTM and Husky are much closer

@@RealOrbit-Australia just saying.. mt07 xsr .. same thang.. anyway the headstock angle is different on the vit compared to the duke for one.. the rear seat on the duke makes the bike feel more cramped where the vit u can slide back more. the clip ons arent uncomfy (to me) and the vit is more comfy (to me). the vit has more HP .. feels quicker and easier to tip into corners.. it has dual balancing shafts and feels wicked smooth too.. also yeah it does look different and imo it looks better.. nothing even wrong with that tbh. but its not the same bike. have you ridden either of them?

@@sometimesitstays it doesn't have more HP man you are reaching...same bike different styling and a few electronic tech that the Vit had and the Duke doesn't because it got discontinued. I've owned a Duke R last generation for 4 months after I sold my 390. Loved it. Sold it due to moving to new state and thought I'd get the 790. That didn't happen so I'm waiting on a good deal for the 890 R. Never rode the Vit but sat on it at dealers. Feels like a KtM to me in fancy clothes. Anyway your opinions are yours and mine are mine. Fact is same engine, same chassis, same suspension....can't remember if the brakes are...

ah mate sitting on a bike and riding a bike are two very different things eh.. yeah they're quite similar for sure no ones gonna argue against that.. the little things make the ride feel much different in my opinion having ridden both.. like the rake, the wheel size, the dual balancing shafts etc. we all do things to our bikes to make them feel different because ... they make them feel different :) its basic wrenching on the bike mate to know this! even you earlier saying you couldn't comprehend how the vit is more comfortable because the duke is upright etc etc.. thats different feel of bike and riding right there my good man.. 890 duke is a wicked bike mate i reckon you'll really enjoy that! hoping they make a vit 901 off that base too ;)

True. You loose abt 40 miles US on a tank.

I just bought one about 2 weeks ago, and when you buy it, it has a box with the pillion seat in there with the owners manual and whatnot

True

That's about right.