I like the fact that he didn’t hold back and he told you what to improve and how you can improve. Overall great video!

Oceans got wayyy better beats than what he displayed here

I like the willingness for Timbo to give back to a young producer like yourself. You humbly accepted his feedback and put it out there for the whole world to see. . It shows you seek growth on a level that keeps you grounded. Many blessings to you sir!

honestly felt like you have better beats than what you showed him

Inspiring how you show this basically unedited, its lowkey putting yourself up vulnearble and i think that's powerful.

Its so crazy because its always the beats we actually love that when we let people hear them they usually dont like or pick them. They usually pick the ones we think are duds. It always happens that way.

The moments where Timbaland just mumbles ocean's melodies with his mouth are just gold

Having the ability to have Timbaland critique your work regardless of whether he messing with it or not is a big achievement. Theres lessons for everyone in this video too! appreciate you sharing your journey with us every time 🙏

Timbaland is also one of my fav producers so this is legendary!

Im so surprised with your beats selection. You've created WAY BETTER beats throughout the years. Im confused

Ocean gonna reach even greater heights than he has reached now. From going to his tiny studio in Manchester in 2020 to where he is at now, and where his new studio is. He is unstoppable, he will always keep pushing and thats what inspires us as your audience to keep pushing and grinding too. Thanks Ocean!

I love how involved Timbaland is with the underground. He truly out here to help up and coming artists. He’s always gone be one of my favourites

That face of Ocean after getting disrespect on every beat😂😂.

Wow he was right on and straightforward and honest. Thats how you get someone better at their craft though. Can’t sugarcoat anything. You just have to be able to humble yourself and really take it in and see if the advice resonates. If it does make the corrections and keep pushing.

Yoo HUGE respect to you for sharing this with your community! I really appreciate that a lot cause normally you only see the "perfect" world of producers who are always winning etc. But this shows that in reality even if you are as good as Ocean you still have to take some failure to develop as an artist. Thanks! You helped me a lot with this video!

Imagine getting in front of Timbaland and playing this out of all your beats

Honestly keep doing you. The artists will come to you. Not all beats need to be nor should be Timbaland approved.

Honesty is key, I like that he's telling you what you don't want to hear, it's the best way forward! 🌟💜📈

Bro this is crazy that we usually hear better beats from you than what you presented to Timbo but hey having those feedbacks from a such legend is sick. This is one step forward to becoming a greater producer than you already are. & this gives us the opportunity to hear what we can do to improve our production, like i already said in the pass, i wish to collab with you one day. Keep up the good work 🤙🏾

I think Tim was pretty spot on. He has a seasoned ear of over three decades. And even though the music scene has past his sound by and modern music sounds much different then his era. He still has a great ear. It takes a lot of guts to post a video like this. Big up to you.

I’ve been in this type of situation before. You tend to present your worst beats when the time comes to present something to the pros in the industries. And also one thing, we producers, the beat we like is usually the worst of all the beats we do. I don’t know why it’s always like that. The beat I don’t love among my beats and music in general is what people around me tend to move their body to. I totally understand what ocean was facing at this point

The Daw doesn't matter just pick one of the top 3 FL Logic or Ableton and learn one. Timbaland saying Logic is only Good for vocals is a Big L "A Good Craftsman Never Blames His Tools"

Hey man, props to ocean for putting himself out there like that. There's a fine line between constructive criticism and completely deteriorating somebody's confidence in perfecting their craft. Timbaland is one of the best to ever do it and this criticism is more valuable than any piece of equipment money can buy. Keep pushing Brotha!!!

Thank you for sharing this Ocean…it shows you got grit and humility to ALWAYS improve…gives the younger generation something to look forward to…thank you!!!

For all who think Timbaland is "rude" - he isn't. Music producers talk to each other like that. That's perfectly normal.

the zoom ins on timbaland face be havin me cryin

NAH DAWG THATS LEGENDARY THIS IS SO COOL Edit: just finished the video and damn what I would give to be able to have him coach me too that sounds really fun and also super informative

Damn, I felt nervous for you as you was playing him your beats. It must have felt like waiting for approval from your parents or something. Great vid tho

he just didnt tell you something that you wanna hear but something you HAVE TO hear. That was cool and it showed that he really want to help you

It's always great to get feedback from a friend or fellow producer... it's even better that it was Timbo helping you out. Now I'm second guessing MY tag. lol I kinda ran into something similar while tryna make a reggaeton beat... where it sounded it good but something was missing cuz it just felt like I was tryna mesh two different genres. Add a lil percussion and speeding up the melody a little might help. Or like Timbaland said, try a different one. He's right though... you're getting there and that's dope. Keep doing big things Ocean.

It's funny how we are judged by the pros, lol but this is art, you are actually seeking many opinions. Not from one person. Most people who listen to music just enjoy it. Those beats are 🔥and depends on who sing or rap on them that makes the hit song.

Respect to you Ocean for letting Timbo hear your beats. That’s how you get better man. Wish you nothing but success in 2023.

i catch some of the beatclub streams from time to time and tim is very selective. good that he actually had a conversation and gave you some direction instead of just dismissing it like some of the things that get played for him.

extremely useful feedback i must say. you can hear each of the suggestions/problems he pinpointed. and sure, you can agree or disagree but the main point is to use his ability to dissect and hear the complete track and its parts in other contexts in his head, instantaneously. It forces you to really think of what you are doing.

Well the truth is bitter, the GOAT was right. If he'd played the beat for like small producers we'd be like 🔥🔥😤.

I understand some may think of better beats however, I feel this feedback was super vital regardless of how the records sounded. We all know Ocean goes hard, so that same feedback he will apply to any of his records from here out. This was such a humbling experience and you earned it Ocean!!💯

Timbaland just doesn't like logic! 🤣 But I loved the third beat and the last beat. Proud of my boy Ocean, well done! 💪🏽🔥🔥🔥

Bruh this is legendary, Simon is gonna be pissed😂,that’s his fav producer

The beats are very good. Timbo just likes to be a super coach. Ocean, you dont need to get those negative comments too serious. Great beats👍

2:05 Ocean was about to burst out laught lmaoooooo

First , thank you for sharing this with us. secondly, I like how you took the criticism positively to enable you be more good at your craft. Thirdly, This channel is 🔥

I smiled and was so happy every time Timbo was like, "You got another beat?"

"I dont hear no song over it" alot of beat makers tend to forget that 🔑

“First off take the tag out”last beat was placement worthy keep cooking

Nice to see Tim put you in the right direction much respect

bro just having the attention of Timba and his trying-to-help criticism is already a blessing

It's all a matter of opinion. Timbaland can say "oh you need to keep it simple" but then go listen to his beat from "Ayo Technology" 50 Cent Feat. Justin Timberlake. It's like, he's critiquing because he's supposed to. Because if someone like Metro Boomin played him these exact beats he would be nodding his head like crazy saying how fire they are. Of course, it's Timbaland and his opinion is very valued in the field. But like I said he has to critique because Ocean is up and coming and he's a legend, I get it. But like I said if an established mainstream famous producer played these same beats he'd be singing their praises. So it's hard for me to really value his opinion too much.

Congrats bro, you did put yourself on the fya and aint get burned!!! this situation is the best way to improve, like be advised by someone like Timbo is dope, for sure you gonna grow alot after it!!!

Everything happens for a reason my bro. Maybe you weren’t meant to show him your best beats for a bigger reason and to just make you a better producer. Because I’ll echo what everyone else is saying here that you have muchhhh better songs than what you displayed to him but sometimes we can all get things out of perspective on our art. Either way this is legendary that you were able to have this experience. Keep doin your thing homie you’re crushin it 🙏🏼💪🏼

i really love his honesty with you, and that will kinda push the best of the heck producer in you to show up

Do you think that part of this is that you and Timbaland have very different styles? I’m surprised at the selection you played him vs the other beats you’ve put up on your videos in the past that I think would have resonated with him more.

keep doing your thing, man. appreciate the rawness and vulnerability in sharing. You're an amazing artist NONETHELESS. Take what you need and go.

just saying ocean u have better beats any reason for picking these?

Good job bro👏🏾🎉 Look how far uve come from the beginning to now. Keep going and keep grinding u got hella love from ure community, nd your inspiring others along the way , thats whats its about!!

Nah the drill beat was on point - it’s all about who you work with for one like that

I know Tim doesn't like anything that isn't his, unless it's a rare day, but I do agree with some of the stuff he said. The last beat was definitely the best of the batch. I liked the cinematic drill beat too. If I'm being honest, though, there's a lot of beats that sound extremely similar. The beat game is over saturated with cool beats, but they don't have an original sound. Back when Tim was making hits, he had a sound. A lot of it probably has to do with everyone using the same drums, and plugins, in current times. If people started to mess with sound design, and made sounds that never existed before, it would take the staleness out of hip hop.

3:47 i don’t think it‘s too „cinematic“ or not even „outdated“ as Timbaland says. @ocean just check out the German rapper LUCIANO with his newest album „MAJESTIC“. this is definitely a beat that he‘d rocked and also nearly all beats from this album are like yours. I love it bro!

Love this content bro, it's dope that you put yourself out here like that.

Super proud to see this Ocean. Keep going bro!

Levels! Big up bro keep it pushing, u put the work in 💯

Goat for getting the Timbaland collab

Biggest takeaway is that you´re there but "not there", which in itself, just means one beat away. Last beat was complete fire.

To my ear, I see a career in sync and film music with Ocean. Everyone has a niche.

I've been following you for a long time man, I started after watching two guys misto and pizzi. I can't believe Timbo is giving you feedback !!

I feel like you’ve made way better beats then the ones shown in the video.

so dope, alot of respect to have him in a Ft. i like how you showed off the not so usual beats to him for this video... kinda curious on the beats you showed him that he fucked with heavy. you make killer beats, and i know you had some in your arsenal that you shot out.

Sorry bro, you completely lost me after you said you listen to Drake the most, that’s one dull artist to follow, need to upgrade your musical taste and ear

The fact you posted this made me respect you even more bro, humbling.

He really roasted it🥶

I love you ocean. I learned practically everything on logic from you and you’ve got pretty dope sounds that would have blow Timbo away. The world gonna recognize your great talent soon enough and great coaching by a mentor and icon timbs love❤

Logic Gang! Ocean and Timberland 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Respect to you and your grinding bro! Im always super honest even doe it might hurt its better to be honest. The problem with these beats you showed are that they are not unique, you are doing what has been done for 10 years or more. I think i almost recocginze all the drum sounds, and just starting there, record / pitch / combine your own drum sounds, or dig and find your own samples, otherwise you sound like 97% of all the beatmakers out there. There is to much of everything everywhere on the word wide web and to make good stuff one have to be unique, simply just being 100% yourself. Fins inspiration somewhere else than the music your going to make, travel, I dont know, hehe your own roots dig there. THere are milions of ways to explore and find a unique own sound. Avoid the comercial sample stations!!! God bless u bro, love your grind! big RESPECT

This is dope as hell but I think you for sure have better beats lol But I guess the point wasn't to impress him but to get meaningful feedback on your weaker areas. Shout out to you my boi!

Man u have ur own music taste, me different....., so me personally i loved what i heard in the beginning of the video!

Keep doing what your doing Ocean. Take Timbaland’s advice and apply it to Logic. Let this experience guide you to become a better producer!

Finally. Feedback from the best. So no need to take offense. Just take it in and improve. Not these yes men that always try to act nice. We all need improvement. You’re so blessed to have had this experience. Just improve everything bro. Keys: learn scales. Engineering: learn dynamics and eq. Sound design: synthesis. Just keep getting better. Don’t stop.

I’ve been watching you since I started producing two years ago!You’re an amazing producer and I’m excited to continue to see your journey and growth. I love the feedback TIMBALANDD gave cause that’s the only way we get even better. I do feel like you have better beats tho 😅 flowers to you Ocean, sending love from nyc 🔥

I remember when I sent my first beat to Timbo, he's being honest. and as much as we want to be creative and use what ever sound we want to use; sometimes we walk all over the idea that maybe the sound doesn't fit or the melody. When I hear "the melody doesn't fit, the first thing I think of is" the track is lacking syncopation. Keep rockin 🙌🏾

Ik ocean was crushed when Timb said to take his tag out 😭

Nahh that last beat was fire no cap, keep this shi up dawgie

Yo! that was amazing. I guarantee with no doubt in my mind you are going to get 100 times better. Logic is my favorite daw but Ableton and Fl Drum just hit differently, Sometime you have to get off your comfort zone

You know what even having timberland roast your beats is a level most people will never get to keep going bro I’ll see you at the top

Ocean was trollin 😂

I think you did great Ocean, keep pushing and elevating your sound. 💖

i have never heard a really good ocean beat....its awesome he has a channel to help others but aint no way he was ready for that.

Nice of you putting this online man. It's nice to have The one and only Mr Timbaland reviewing your songs and giving tips on how to improve yourself. Great stuff! And I know what he means because I always have the same problem with my beats, the Melodies are too much and they need to give more air for a rapper to rap on it. Same as in a band everyone needs to give space for the other instruments. Thanks for putting this online, helps a lot!

LMAO OCEAN WAS TRYING SOO HARDD NOT TO LAUGH

that melody Timbo hummed at 2:57 was GOLDEN

Tim doesn't like logic lol

Wow man he really put things in perspective. Everybody need to work things out. Sometimes it hurts to hear the truth, but if you put that behind yourself and really dig in and start experimenting it will change everything you do. I am going through this same thing and have been for a few years. I had to rework my melodies and drums. I use Ableton and the Akai Force to produce. So I had to rethink my workflow a little and come up with a smoother way for me to make less generic sounding stuff. It's not perfect, but I'm getting closer to finding my sound.

Ocean said let me pick my most ass beats to show this man

It's not even a matter of whether your beats are good/bad or not, but that Timbaland provided a sort of inside info on what instantly catches the ears of execs and big time producers/artists etc. I enjoyed this, and learnt a lot in a short clip, helped me gauge the gap a bit.

Timbascam

Is this real? I’m familiar with your channel but not necessarily the beats. This is horrid for 8 years in…

Bro I liked the fact that u put Timbo real opinion on your beats and that’s fire, respect. Overall I do think you’re a good producer.

I feel like Ocean has better beats then this

You got your music reviewed by the GOAT and I feel like he gave you constructive criticism. Keep in mind he listens to hundreds of producers so he's giving to advice to DIFFERTIATE yourself instead of telling you you're up to par with what everyone else does. That's what makes Timbo's critique priceless.

the disrespect is crazy

This is excellent feedback. He is dropping gems 💎 I’m over here learning too

Naw u got way better beats I heard ur stuff stop playing lol