How you setting up your stabs? Don’t forget to Go Shoot Your Bow ✊

As much as it pains me, I did watch this video all the way to the end l!!

Darton Consequence, would be a really nice bow build to see...

Watched the first 12 seconds almost 5 times and MFJJ glooping in the background had me tears laughing 😂. Great opening

I love the content you and mfjj put out. I think you are a great content creator and answer alot questions alot of people have, or cover topics that others dont. Keep it up

Thanks for all the content,, today’s “balancing the bow” info is so often overlooked and bars are bolted on often as a formality rather than a tool. Personally, bow balance isn’t something I paid much attention to until the past 3 years. For me, front bars are useless with back bars making an incredible difference. I hunt 60 yards and in and cannot justify having a front bar as a properly tuned back bar alone keeps me steady and accurate to 60. Too many videos are focused on “do you need a back bar” whereas in my experience “do you need a front bar”? Thx again for everything you do here!🙏

Been waiting to see the latest Podium offset bar...glad it should ne coming real soon

Great content as usual, but the creativity was awesome with the face to face! The teaching and knowledge aspects always on point. Keeps the subscribers engaged and content fresh! Great work TC

(Budget)My first bow and current setup is Diamond Edge 320. Been into archery for 8 months now and I absolutely love it. I appreciate the content you put out as a beginner trying to learn, thank you!

Love your videos keeps me smiling and laughing while trying to learn this or that

Thanks for this video. Im a target shooter and its always hard to have real, honest and well explain answer with those stabilizers bar.

I really appreciate this video from you guys. I've been messing with bars over the last year and this just totally helped me out of time. Thank you so much!

I love their offset bracket!!! It really helps with back pack hunts too. I ran one last year and it really helped take off some of the weight.

I love it every Sunday night I know Monday morning I get my west coast fix love the content from ky cheers

I have been messing with my stabilizers for the last couple of weeks. I think I got it to my sweet spot! Great Video as always!

MFJJ this episode just got me to buy you 15” stabilizer. TY for the 10% off. Keep up the hard work! Love you guys

Keep the content firing along, cant get enough. Especially vids like this

i just love these vids. i have a kairos on the way i will be shooting for 3D and field. this is my first hunting bow and this showed me a whole new world coming from indoor archery. only very sad that in belgium we dont have events like tac wish someone would start up something over here like that. i would be all over that. keep op the great work you 2

good budget bow i have is the mission switch. its been great especially with all the easy adjustability and how much u can put into it. 👍

Great video and excellent explanation of why and how different bars work.i run a 12” and a 8” on my hunting set up and a 27” and a 12” on my target bow. I also run my back bars more down to help me from dropping on my shot if that makes any sense.

solid work as always!

You finally got me to subscribe. Been watching a while. JJ’s super trooper reference won me over.

That intro was amazing!! 😂😂

Great video Tim (my bad brother) and JJ. Always sliding through with a wealth of knowledge

You guys are awesome

Your videos are freaking entertaining. More shenanigans!

Darton Consequence

Stoked you’ll be in San Antonio! Looking forward to running into you

Best intro yet🐎

Bear Alaskan great budget bow.

Love this content and I’d say Bear legit seems like a contender for your budget bow build. One of bears most sold bows on the market.

Use the Bear Legit for the budget bow.

Mjff talks about grabbing the bow before the arrow is out. Can you try some slow mo to show it? Not super important, just think it'd be interesting to see

You should do a stabalizer review and some of the best cheap stabalizers

Tim your doing a killer job on your KZfaq channel and it is really cool that you Josh helping you out a lot. Good friends stick together and that's what counts. Just one thing to ask both of you is that on my RX-8 I have the Garmin Xero bow site and still having a little hard time balancing out the bow and suggestions on how I would be able to solve my issue. I am running the 10" and 8" Hoyt stabilizers but you know how heavy the Garmin can be so just asking. Again Tim and Josh I really enjoy your content you put out and good luck getting one hundred thousand subscribers I really hope you get there fast and you will!!!

Bear Whitetail Maxx is a killer budget bow. Thanks for the content. New Sub here.

Darron Consequence for sure. Lots of flagship technology in a price point that many will enjoy.

Bowtech amplify would be a nice bow build to see on this channel!

I use a 12''/10'' but also add a limb saver s-coil passthrough type on ends for the addition of weights. Adds about 2'' of length and vibe kill. Final is 15.5 front and 12'' rear, the most I'd want to carry into the field. The Quattro Vulcan stabs supposedly have internal vibe control. Whether that is BS or not, I don't know, but it's perfectly leveled at the draw and completely dead in hand. I also always shoot with my quiver on, which takes a bit more rear bar bias.

The Darton Consequence seems like the obvious choice for a budget bow. That thing is fantastic

My current “budget” bow is a Bear Paradox, Trophy Taker Smackdown pro click, Podium offset bar and 10* quick disco, and soon will have a Redline Rl-2 sight.

Your timing is impeccable, I was just wondering about this. Definitely need to tinker with my setup. And a bonus Supertroopers reference?! You guys are killing it!

I just use a 10 degree drop 8in front bar. Was thinking about the counter slide from tim gillingham video he talked about it with a few great reasons

May be an unpopular pick because it is a China bow, but the Sanlida Dragon 10 has very impressive specs at a 450 dollar bare bow price. It is marketed as their flagship hunting bow and Sanlida is a legit archery company that does higher end target bows. Would be very intrigued to see MFJJ pick it apart and see if it's a true budget speed bow

Would love to see a video on what MFJJ is talking about bow reaction at the time of the shot. What does good reaction look like versus what it looks like when there are issues

Elite Basin!

Check out the PSE Stinger and the BlackOut Distinct or Epic BlackOut Faze is only $299 (BlackOut is made by Bear or Elite depending on the bow)

Would like to see you two interview tbone

The Elite Terrain

Bowtech amplify and elite basin

Doing the bull dance, feeling the flow, working it, working it -MFJJ. Why is it, that an extendable stabilizer ( especially in the hunting field) not been produced. Something in regards of a trekking pole or tripod style. Twist lock, extend, shorten. Have the ability to shorten it apon travel/ storage and extend to desired balance point. All I know is length can be very beneficial yet knowing when to use it is key. Keep these vids a-coming 👍

Always just ran a short Limb Saver S coil stabilizer. Trying to up my 3D game this year. What off set bar/bracket did MFJJ mention at the end? Would like to try that and one of his stabs in 10 or 12" Thanks for the great content.

Would love to hear suggestions for a modern bowhunter 3d setup. Pretty popular category now. Max 12" out the front. Would y'all suggest a longer backbar or still a similar ratio. Also bias or no bias?

I put on a 15' front and a 7'back for hunting last year out west and i was absolutely impressed. Im 6'5, so if my 15 inch bar isnt fitting neither am i...LOL After walking a mile or two, i noticed the bars the most. (Pretty drastically if i may say) Even just having a backbar that is set up correctly is a huge game changer. IMHO Lets be honest, these long bars of destiny are INTIMIDATING! I get some looks with my setup, get asked "you hunt with that". I have started taking my bars off my bow and letting others try them at the range, 9/10 they end up going inside to the shop and buying a stabilizer..

It’s only a 60 pound bow but the Elite Ember is pretty sweet for the money

Please add the Quest Centec to your budget bow list!

Which sidebar mount and which weights did you end up on the 15/10' stabilizers? Really appreciate it!

Darton Consequence is about the best budget bow made (personal opinion)

Tim, I have been subscribed since the start of your channel. Twice in the last 2 weeks I've checked and found out I needed to resubscribe. Don't know what's going on, but it could be costing you subscribers if it's happening to others. The same thing is happening on the channel where you and MFJJ do your weekly podcasts.

Tim , Obsession Bone I want to hear your thoughts on it.

Mission mxr test it!

Throw the mission switch in there for budget bows

How about the Bowtech Amplify, for the budget bow build..

Great video good to no thanks

Do we know when the latest Podium offset stab mount will be on the website? I wanna be sure to get one before they are sold out. Thanks

Xpedition mx16 bow

I would like to see the bear Alaskan xt for the budget bow build

YO TIM!!! I’ve been asking elkshape and Chris BEE to do this video for months! Everyone has these big ol stabilizers at different degrees and different weights blah blah blah. Thank you for taking the time and explaining how and why the bars are where they are. MFJJ is the man. The bow yoda. For sure. That should be a T shirt (just saying) much love homies from Long Island NY

Hey Tim I was in the market for a set of stabs for my new pse Mach 30 and I have always ran shrewd but I have been looking at the aae mountain light series but then I noticed Mfjj has his just wondered if there is a comparison to the two or could you do a vid comparing the two or is that just dumb to ask lol . This coming from your 1 of 6 woman scribers oh and from my to boot lmao . Anyway was just interested in both stabs wondered if there was a reason to sway one way or another . Thank you for any input !

Budget bows bear legit and diamond edge 320

I have a Sanlida Archery Dragon X8. I am new to archery. I really like my bow,and was just wondering what your guy's opinion was on it. RTH package. $269.

Cp30 12in and 5 oz in the front

Tim, do you have a link for the bi-pod on the bow in the video?

Budget bow must be diamond EDGE MAX! I love mine every time I shoot it

I hunt from a tree only and use 12” front stabilizer and 8” rear, works well for me.

Diamond edge xt

So with a 3d setup, hike to hunt, ect would you set your bars up with bias or like hunting bow with no bias?

I'll say it again Bear Alaskan XT for a budget bow. If it's good enough for the best bow hunter in our lifetimes you should be able to make a great budget bow with it

Ultimate Budget Bow is the Obsession Tm33. Even lighter than most flagship bows. Actually miss that bow a lot.

Did you paper tune your setups with the bars on or off? Good info for people on stabilizers.

Dragon X8 Hunting Compound Bow Pro Kit

Bear fusion rth budget bow.

Have you ever tried moving your d-loop up or down the string to see if the bow holds better. Also have you tried micro tuning your draw length for hold. Just thoughts.

Dimond alter , the new Darton , prime Ronan

What about the PSE Nock On EMBARK for the Budget Bow ???

Are you guys going to Oklahoma tac also?

I have heard some pretty reputable archery coaches discuss stabilizers, and I have come to believe what they said is true. You should NOT be trying to use stabilizers to get your bow to hold level, you should be using it to make the bow STAY level upon release. If your bow isn't level while holding it back, there's a problem with your form and what you'll end up with if you do this is you'll be "in tune" (shoot bullet holes through paper) when shooting field points with stabilize weights on, but you would be out of tune without stabilizer weights off... that means the bow is NOT tuned, and you are instead using stabilizers to compensate for improper form. It's better to practice your form and tune your bow without any stabilizer weights on, then add them a little at a time only to help keep the bow more steady from the time the trigger is tripped to the time the arrow has completely left the bow. My first few seasons I used my brothers old hand me down Mathews Feathermax. I used only an 8" front bar with only an ounce or two, no back bar, and it shot lights out. That sucker was pinpoint accurate. Tagged a few deer per year with it, and every single time hit the exact spot I was trying to hit. Then I bought my PSE. I quickly discovered that it was much harder to get tuned properly, I needed a back bar, and quite a bit of additional weights. Then I started missing deer... several times over a few seasons. I obviously blamed the bow for all of my problems. Then I started really heavily studying to try to improve my shooting technique. I took off the weights on my stabilizer while fixing my form (advise of one of the gurus I listened to). I learned and practiced proper shooting form. I learned how to properly tune my bow myself (did a complete re-tune on my bow, moves cam shims, etc), & finally set up my bow while using good form, and now things seem to have changed dramatically. My bow holds level withotu any weights, and I was shooting much better and more consistent groups. My flyers are not that far off. Now I use one ounce on my front bar, still have the back bar without any weight on it (because it works better than taking the back bar off), and plan to keep it that way for elk and deer season. It wasn't a problem with my bow, or the stabilizers. It was a problem with using poor form and not getting my bow tuned properly.

I think for a budget bow you should try the mission hammr

Xpedition mountaineer x or apx for a budget bow build

Hey Tim, what grip is that on your hunting bow?

No stabilizer on my Halon 32. I had a front and rear on it a couple years. The balance is so good with the full quiver and HHA king pin, I opt not to use them.

What would Josh recommend when you build a hybrid bow? Would i go for an in-between on purposely induceing torque and a natural balance? Im in Oklahoma so not a lot of off balace shots.

I’d like to see what a Mission Switch or MXR can do!!

Do a kids bow video :)

I’m a right handed shooter, and I find that I have to run my back bar off the right side of the bow. I have tried to figure out why, but that’s just where it likes to be.

have a hack on arrow rests, drop away, prongs etc.

What kick stand does Josh have on his bow?

Budget Bow: Darton consequence (w/ military discount)

Would there be any chance of a derail pushing on the bow like that at full draw?

Budget bow........... Bear limitless holds a special place for me. My first bow. Kinda want to save it at some point and sup it up