Time to sell my AxeFx III? Quad Cortex vs. AxeFx 3 CHUG BATTLE!

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2 жыл бұрын

You know what time it is. Time to chug test the fractal axefx 3 vs. the neural dsp quad cortex in a chug battle. Which one will come out on top??
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@GolfDad 2 жыл бұрын

How is this channel not more popular.. great editing and stuff.

@taybrown90 2 жыл бұрын

I like that your intro is 2 seconds long and then you get right to the content 👍

@DrewCreal 2 жыл бұрын

They all sound so awesome! I love this channel!!! I was especially excited when I heard the music lol 🤣

@Turboy65 Жыл бұрын

The Axe-FX is still the ultimate modeller if you are into a truly full featured machine that has every tone and every bell and whistle you can possibly imagine and are willing to take a deep dive into crafting the most incredible patches you have not yet even imagined. If you just want something quick and easy that sounds good, there may be better choices for you. But if you're a geeker and tweaker and are chasing ultimate tones, that's what Fractals are all about and there's nothing else on their level.

@BA99253 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Taylor for tackling the questions all us metal heads ask ourselves. The block letter reigns supreme it sounds nasty!

@jonpaullucas2579 2 жыл бұрын

Dude good vid. I really like the comparison.

@justmehere6094 Жыл бұрын

I once had a Kemper, Axe FX iI XL2+ and a Helix. Had to cut down for financial reasons. I kept the Axe platform for exactly the reason of the deep dive ability, not just on the Amp Block, but Drive pedal Block, ant FX block, Cab block etc. In essence, it allows you to create new amps, drive pedals, fx, with the tweaks down to insane levels, combining etc. Finances got a little better, and was able to upgrade to the Axe FX III Mk 2 eventually.

@Dan_XF07 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Both sound great! In the case of QC did you use factory amp simulations or did you use some capture ? All the best

@felipegomabrockmann2740 2 жыл бұрын

excellent video, so much fun. Thank you Taylor :)

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

🤘🥳

@Ledjent 2 жыл бұрын

What an excellent video!!!

@WhiteNoiseStudio86 2 жыл бұрын

i really like the low end on the QC! the axe sounds so robust tho! i must have both!!

@bigassdummy46 4 ай бұрын

Why?

@TrumpetsInMy4x12 2 жыл бұрын

How are you monitoring the QC and Axe? Is it going direct to your interface or were you going through the fx return into your 4x12? If running it direct; I assume you were using IRs matched to the speakers in your cab?

@alastaircollins1145 2 жыл бұрын

So long as your greeting doesn’t sound like there’s an implied “m’lady” lurking at the end, you’re golden.

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@eddysel10 Жыл бұрын

Great video. I wonder how the Line 6 Helix compare to these.

@bastianmaoro8278 2 жыл бұрын

If I had that money, probably I would stick with one modeller (I don't like digital stuff with rack size) + a TUBE poweramp and a compressor + pre like the EHX Optical-Tube Black Finger to put in front of the modeller and get away even from full sizes tube amps.

@borbetomagus1 2 жыл бұрын

the best thing about the Axe is that you can mess with absolutely anything in the amp. it made me realise how much of a "sound" was in the speaker compression and cab.

@Patrick-857 5 күн бұрын

*Me just discovering 80s clean sounds with no speaker.

@CarcPazu 2 жыл бұрын

The difference are negligible. The top modelers/profilers are starting to be pretty similar if you ask me. At some point it will boil down to reliability, the UI, convenience, look, feature sets…

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

All these things are very true. Dino Cazqres made a really good point too, he said he started using modelers because one of his tube heads was stolen, and he didn’t want to risk that happening again.

@soundstorm9508 Жыл бұрын

@@TaylorDanley yep that was his Metalhead modded Marshall famous for the sounds on Demanufacture. Rare as hen's teeth now, that shop wasn't in business long.

@thisguy2973 9 ай бұрын

@@soundstorm9508he did mention recently that he eventually got that stolen gear back something like 20 years later. He had some guitars in there that meant something to him, and that has gotta hurt.

@thisguy2973 9 ай бұрын

And the truth is they’re all using the same open APIs to develop a solution for their platform, so take your pick. It’s all good, you just have to get the one that’s good for you.

@kshitijk14 2 жыл бұрын

In mix anyone of them is actually more than enough ,but if we say on minimum details, qc has polished and actually best top end,it doesn't has the aggressive harshness which amp n af has,cool!!

@KillerStephen 7 ай бұрын

What is that odd shaped thing on the rack shelf with a small screen?

@IndyRockStar 2 жыл бұрын

just bought the Quad Cortex. I don't get it until mid August. Can't wait!

@celestialode 2 жыл бұрын

Damn man, I was listening without looking and everything sounded similar. No idea which was which

@thedanksavatron7782 2 жыл бұрын

Nissssssssssssssssssce 🍻 Quadro Cortexo sounded crisper than the AXo FXo. But nothing beats an actual amp!

@89MarkWright 2 жыл бұрын

Real amp by a hair Both the qc and axe fx sounded great Im not regretting moving over to the qc from tube amps

@RLDWEBER Жыл бұрын

Killer riffs... what guitar is that?

@NicoMoratinos 2 жыл бұрын

"what's up chuggers My name is Taylor"

@Robster881 Жыл бұрын

The QC sound good, but there's just more girth to the AxeFX sound. I'm in the process of working out which of the 1 to 1.5k GBP modellers to get. I think I'm leaning an FM3 at this point. QC is a close second though.

@gotmilkduds6683 2 жыл бұрын

A good time to be a guitar player, when when not one but both modelers sound very good!

@TheMelodyofChaos 2 жыл бұрын

Good video man, I'm just worried about the quality of the quad cortex, I keep hearing about software issues, some of the quad cortex just die from nothing and others even have some lose screws inside... to be honest I never heard of that last one before on a product that almost cost 2k... but putting that aside may I ask you what kind of guitar is that? looks brutal lml

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Haven’t had any issues with mine, but again, not going to be stepping on it anytime soon!

@Astral_Wave 2 жыл бұрын

Something is up with Finnish made electronics. I had a microtubes pedal's power jack go to shit recently.

@grim..sentinel9500 Жыл бұрын

great video, thanks. Really went the extra mile by recording the song 3 times and switching between each piece of gear.

@TaylorDanley Жыл бұрын

Thanks! That's the only way to do it justice IMO!

@edod2a 17 күн бұрын

Very romantic track for test, good job!

@gauravlama2079 Жыл бұрын

I think if you could make a gig ready preset dailing on both the units then, in terms of ease of use quick accessibility etc then it would be more helpful to make the purchase. Because just the sound wise both sounds identical to each other. And also we can’t understand how both unit responds dynamically. So I would suggest that if you could give your thoughts on both unit and comparing how both unit functions onboard etc then it would make more sense for us to get an idea. Cheers❤️

@bimmerman5978 2 жыл бұрын

Cool Dracula riffs!

@metaldreams3595 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, what's the deal with the Grimmoire guitar? Who makes it? Or what model?

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

Deviant Guitars, check my IG

@MK-ln3xd Жыл бұрын

came for guitar tone, but what drum sampler is this?

@wendelloglesbee4154 2 жыл бұрын

So I've decided I am going to get either the QC or AF3 - I intend to pair with a Fryette LX II....I'd be interested to hear which unit you you think "feels" more like playing an actual amp? I had the original Axe Fx and the thing I couldn't get passed was the lack of "feel" .....hoping the modeler technology has bridged that gap enough that paired with the LXII will get me where I want to be.

@grahambrecke9292 2 жыл бұрын

the original axe was 10 years ago and things have prgressed so much that I could not even tell you. try the axe you will not regret it, you can try it if you do not like it send it back. I promise you will not send it back. qc is to new not much out there for updates and lots of things will limit you. they promised things 2 years ago that still are not out but they keep making vst for computers. what a bunch of crap... fractal on the other hand has new things all the time and well it speaks for its self try it out.

@guitarristahobista 2 жыл бұрын

The Cortex needs a external power source too?

@lydiagraham2188 2 жыл бұрын

I think I like the axe fx the most, but I did like the tight controlled low end on the quad cortex!

@brentessex 2 жыл бұрын

Hell yea man! All of them sounded great. Anymore, I don’t really know if one modeler is going to better than another. When I saw megadeth live last month, Kiko’s tone kicked ass….which of course he’s using a quad cortex

@MonsterChuck Жыл бұрын

Are you playing the QC through the cab? If so, what are you using to power the cab? I am in the market and would like the option to just play through a 2x12 cab but power amps seem like a controversial topic as to which gets you the cleanest tone.

@caca_spaniel_1239 Жыл бұрын

GT1000 is the official power amp rack for the Axe Fx so it would be pretty good with the QC as well. I think

@jasonwright4144 9 ай бұрын

I searched high and low when getting a fractal unit or a quad cortex. I had a kemper profiler at the time. It was great, but I really wanted a more all in one unit and the kemper stage wasn't as desirable. I looked at probably over a 100 videos of fractal vs Neural. No dis to Neural, but I think Fractal out does every aspect. Vintage tones are better, modern tones are better, Church tones are better, Prog and metal tones are better, AND my fm9 is built like a tank. I've had it for over a year now and couldn't be happier with it. It's amazing for both live use and home recording. Just a phenomenal rig. I can't get enough of it!

@thisguy2973 9 ай бұрын

I think you should revisit this competition and include a couple other modelers, then do blind samples of each on a killer metal setting, and the at the end of the video, expose which is which. It could lower people’s expectations on which modelers needs to sound a certain way.

@brianpsionic4089 2 жыл бұрын

I think theres a difference with the mic positioning (during the mix comparison) from the actual 5150 and the Axe FX III

@musicmore5169 2 жыл бұрын

would you sell it for a good price to someone who could not afford one ,

@niceride777 2 жыл бұрын

Holy cow! What is that song you used for the demo???

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

It's from my band, Sacrificer.. a song we are working on

@buttholesniffers 2 жыл бұрын

What kind of guitar is that?

@aftertheendtimes 2 жыл бұрын

I choose the Peavey 5150 all day´s in the week ;) It never gets old, Maybe the AXE Fx and qard cortex May be more versitile but the 5150 can do anything,....that it takes to make a song,..I also like the formfactor of the Quad Cortex is nice,...Thank´s Taylor ;)

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

🤘🤘

@mccloud273 2 жыл бұрын

Came for the shootout, ended up obsessed with 1:28 - 1:56, is that an actual song or just a riff you came up with? Either way, I love it! As for which one it's hard to say, as much as I want a Quad Cortex I think the Axe FX has more "grit", if that makes sense

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It’s from my band Sacrificer, song is called “whites of their eyes”

@TheXxjmpxxx 2 жыл бұрын

Axe Fx definitely sounded closer than the Quad Cortex. Of course the amp sounded best IMO.

@angrybalkon1471 Жыл бұрын

You do the best Chanel about meat guitar sound!

@Frankdrabik 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man! Love your channel! May I ask you what Ir are you using ?

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! ML Sound Lab Djent IR

@andreaseveso 2 жыл бұрын

@@TaylorDanley was about asking the same one! Do you remember by any chance which IR? I already have the mega djent pack :)

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

@@andreaseveso I think that’s what it was called, it’s one of the premixed IRs in the pack… … just looked it’s called MIX DJENT

@demondrive147 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Now I want Fractal even more

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

🤣 sorry dude. They are really cool though!

@alvarg Жыл бұрын

@ 0:58 I dont think I've heard a 5150 sound worse...

@xxxpanchoxxx1 2 жыл бұрын

where's de cab ir info?

@matttaylor1449 2 жыл бұрын

What a cool looking guitar. What's the make and model?

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

This is a collab between myself and deviant guitars! There’s more info on my IG. I will make a video on it as soon as we tweak a few things 🤘🤘

@AnimeshBezbaruah 2 жыл бұрын

What are u using for the drums?

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect Drums VSTi

@AbeldeBetancourt Жыл бұрын

Dude, WTF with those shoes!? *EDIT* Great review/comparison. Thanks a lot!

@andrew6978 2 жыл бұрын

Nice comparison. Axe FX is slightly better on amp models, and is in another universe in routing options, effects, I/O. etc etc. I'd be interested in a low/mid gain amps comparison. Fenders, Vox's and the like. Everyone seems to be able to do heavy sounds fairly well. But edge of breakup sorts the wheat from the chaff.

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

I own a lot of modelers for making these videos, and I could never use any of them to replace what my axefx does. It's too powerful, and processes my entire back line. Not going anywhere... until maybe the AXEFX 4

@danford6678 Жыл бұрын

I love Boogie cabs but if you ever get a chance to try out a Marshall 1960a or 1960b I highly recommend I played a 5150 thru one for years and it was amazing. I've also owned Boogies that were amazing as well not trying to say one is better or worse with top end gear better / worse is subjective its all so good.

@TaylorDanley Жыл бұрын

I actually bought a 1960a recently because I felt like it was a good compliment for the mesa cab, so I could switch between the two. Still prefer the Mesa, but it's nice having a different cab that is a bit smoother.

@xvx6663 2 жыл бұрын

How much did the whole Axe Fx III rig cost to put together??

@dio.saurus 2 жыл бұрын

That boxy sound...you can always tell a mile off that's an Axe Fx.

@dpapaioannow Жыл бұрын

are you using the real amp as a power amp?

@sickmoshbrah 2 жыл бұрын

The riff in solo was very telling for me. Tbh, they all three sound the same. It literally sounds like you took the actual amp and put a high pass filter on it with the axe fx being the darkest sounding. I think folks should buy whatever makes them happy and inspires them to play more. Use whatever tool makes your job easier

@taylormesa 2 жыл бұрын

All three sound amazing! I sold my Axe III for the QC because of the UI alone. SO easy to navigate. AF has a tremendous amount of tweak ability, but I just didn’t use them.

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the UI is a BIG plus, especially by comparison

@Bsaunders17 2 жыл бұрын

Lol I sold my axe fx to get a qc. Now this week I just sold my qc to buy another axe fx. I was just underwhelmed with the effects and the tones were no better yo me. Also it’s bee out for over a year and has had like 1 update. I don’t know if neural is just staying quiet cuz something big is coming or what. But fractal is the proven company, the axefx is more powerful can literally do anything

@taylormesa 2 жыл бұрын

@@Bsaunders17 QC has had 3 updates this year. Axe3 is almost $1200 more than QC when you get the footswitch. Tone is subjective, but the QC captures sound better to me than Fractal and you don’t have endless tweaking of parameters to make it sound good. QC doesn’t need a computer interface. I’m just glad digital amps have improved so much. So much better than the POD days!

@christebo7305 2 жыл бұрын

@Ken Turpin the real comparison is with the FM9 though... $200+ cheaper than the QC

@NickLeonard 2 жыл бұрын

At least the way the eq is dialed in, I would say the QC is closest to the real amp

@goldenpie6 5 ай бұрын

I know this is really old and I doubt anyones gonna answer, but do yall think I should go AxeFx 2 or Quad Cortex? I'm trying to buy used and theres an extremely cheap AxeFx 2, but I would need to buy a foot controller and it isn't being updated anymore. QC is way more expensive, but its already a floor unit and way newer

@Polletross 2 жыл бұрын

I may be biased to fractal but damn that mix in the battle was sick and the fractal imo sounded the best.

@travisboose9444 Жыл бұрын

Nah man, you’re just bummed you spent that much on the worst of all them QC is the best

@Polletross Жыл бұрын

@@travisboose9444 nah it’s an affordable price and does way more than I have any need for. I’m jealous of the interface and that’s it. Fractal features and sound are out of the park better even on the baby FM3.

@MeTuLHeD 2 жыл бұрын

Dude...you HAD to know someone was going to ask this. Have you made a tone capture of your 5150 using your Quad Cortex?

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

Yes actually, and I love it 🤣. I’ll upload to the cloud here at some point

@StatAvg 2 жыл бұрын

@@TaylorDanley would love some di captures!

@necdetcapar3996 7 ай бұрын

QC can be put in the back pack and UI interface is easier. Plus you can download plugins and capture other real amps. For a very subtle difference, if I were to buy I would possibly go with QC. FX 3 might be a bit better but does not justify the logistics cost.

@AlexRafn 7 ай бұрын

Being a previous owner of the QC, i can tell you that there's a lot of shit captures out there as there is with the Kemper. I think that the modelling in the QC was much better than the captures available. Just sold the unit though, so i wont be able to speak for the future plugin feature.

@ibrahimbirdal 2 жыл бұрын

I loved how good the Axe-Fx in the mix, even better than the real amp for me, It is so dynamic more focused and well balanced. I feel very happy to have one in my rig, again. Thanks for the video man.

@Yxzjvc 2 жыл бұрын

When i tried all of the heavy amps lately on my new QC i wasn't satisfied with all of them but i guess im just spoiled/used to my Randall Satan too much :) it's not the modelers "fault"

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

Thats a good reason! Wonder if they’ll add that ever? 🤔

@Yxzjvc 2 жыл бұрын

@@TaylorDanley i really hope they add atleast the natas!

@Ghaos 2 жыл бұрын

Favor: can you please do a detailed video about using your Axe Fx3 with your backing tracks setup, maybe starting at the DAW and ending at your connections to the House PA?

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

I've done this before, but probably time for an update.

@Ghaos 2 жыл бұрын

@@TaylorDanley Or point to previous video if you've down this already....

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

@@Ghaos kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qclza8ahnNLXmHU.html

@Ghaos 2 жыл бұрын

@@TaylorDanley Found them. Thanks dude.

@satarello 2 жыл бұрын

1. PEAVEY of course. 2. Axe fx III because is more selective than QC in the mix. 3. QC. PS. I like both of them. They are very similar and Ill write more which is better amp or modeller below your another movie...

@barryprosser1370 2 жыл бұрын

Start it with... Sup Bro :)

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🥳

@shadyburnike264 2 жыл бұрын

What's up my fellow metalheads

@marko_makinen 2 жыл бұрын

Great comparison! New to the channel by the way, didn't find any info about that gorgeous guitar with a quick glance. What is it?

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

Welcome! It's called Grimoire and it's a collaboration between myself and Deviant Guitars

@kuzWich 2 жыл бұрын

"Chug!" instead of "hi" as a greeting

@Beddez1 2 жыл бұрын

I love my AxeFxIII; best buy in many years when it comes to gear. The Cortex is an interesting unit but one thing was something that I wondered about from the beginning: when playing live in/on a shitty venue with piss and puke everywhere; the footknops are the encoders to tweak the unit. Does Neural send a pair of rubber gloves with it when ordering a unit? I liked the sound of all the three forms. Nice vid, thank you.

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

🙏 yeah you can buy a cover for it to protect the screen, but to me if you are going to use it live, I’d leave it in a rack and automate the patch changes or use a midi controller

@andrew6978 2 жыл бұрын

I suppose it's same as the FM3, FM9. To be honest, if there's piss and puke on the stage I'd get another gig.

@jbag4289 2 жыл бұрын

AXE FX is raw, and QC is more polished, So i'm sure in a live mix the AXE FX gonna be more present. And polishing a Raw sound is easier than vice versa. For me AXE FX alle the way

@chrischris7180 Жыл бұрын

I have axe fx 2 and love it to death.. But seriously the capture is way closer to the real amp then axe fx 3. I would love to get a fm9 but due to stock constraints, I will now get quad cortex. Sorry fractal but I need something to replace my axe fx 2 now not 1 year coz ya I am not even in the waiting list as its not sold in Australia...

@whatsupbra43 2 жыл бұрын

Do you think I should sell my 5150 head for a axe fx? I always wanted a axe fx to get all kind of sound in my room but don’t know if I want sell my amp and not have a relic. Thoughts?

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

Personally, I wouldn’t. But I also love having the real thing available, so I’m biased!

@andrew6978 2 жыл бұрын

Get an Axe FX, you will NOT regret it. Being able to get killer tones at bedroom levels and not have to crack a valve head is worth it alone.

@StatAvg 2 жыл бұрын

PV 505 is a 6505 on the QC

@oakenmaus 2 жыл бұрын

Greeting request: Ahoy, tone sailors!

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

Oh that’s a really good one!

@piresrobson Жыл бұрын

Nice shoes 👞

@apoplexiamusic 2 жыл бұрын

The AxeFX definitely sounds more like your real amp and the Quad Cortex is definitely cleaner! They all sound great though!

@ronaldbrasseur9327 Жыл бұрын

I have both,, I'm 57... I never even break out the axe fx3 anymore. The quad is just so easy to use. It literally takes 2 seconds to make a change on anything. They both sound great, but ease of use. I hate using a laptop n mouse !!! Quad Cortex for me.

@nmtodorow 2 жыл бұрын

I like the Axe3

@explosivemonkeypunch 2 жыл бұрын

Tone is stored in the slippers

@TaylorDanley 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@XenoTravis Жыл бұрын

I think this didn't give axe fx iii justice. If it was just trying to sound like a basic amp then sure it will sound the same. Axe fx can do tone matching which wins for so many reasons. You can download someone's tone match and get a very very accurate tone super quickly. The capture in quad cortex is crap compared to axe fx in my opinion It also can do more tweaking. That can win for many.

@1upfx281 2 жыл бұрын

I liked the Quad over the AxeFX when solo'd. In the context of mix, there wasn't much difference between all 3.

@wolfhorsky Жыл бұрын

AXE FX in the mix sounded a bit off as it has more pronounced mids, QC sounded "relaxed/airy", 5150 sounded so pissed of and most scooped.

@LCRLive687 2 жыл бұрын

Who cares really about comparing by a hairs here they all sound great. I'm an ambient player and I also do space black metal too. Axe fx 3 all day for too many reasons to list here because it can do millions of more things than the other units a-b'ed in this video. The delays and reverbs alone are worth the price of the axe fx 3.

@teddiehl8116 2 жыл бұрын

If you are only concerned with amp.modeling u suppose it's close enough not to matter. However the Axe3 goes way beyond amp modeling. There is no effect you can not reproduce with the Fractal

@SuperCMO79 10 ай бұрын

@Taylor Which for High gain! Go! :D) I'm debating feedback appreciated :)

@schlagdog 2 жыл бұрын

5150s are so different. If I had mine set to these setting it would sound nothing like this. Literally not even close.

@stevestevens1457 2 жыл бұрын

Pickups matter too

@Cosmic-Ballz Жыл бұрын

0:53 5150 3:27 Quad Cortex 5:47 AxeFX III

@TheMrcalamity 7 ай бұрын

The qc sounds closer for me when i switch between. The axefx sounds darker

@dirtyandnasty9011 2 жыл бұрын

In the mix I don't really hear much difference, but I'm listning through bad speakers :/ Solo, the AxeFX is more raw and direct, I prefer it by far even to the amp. The Quad Cortex is the least in my taste, flat and weak, too courteous sounding !

@taylorvolleberg 6 күн бұрын

If I had to choose the Axe FX over the Quad, It's Axe FX all day. The Quad has a high end fizz that is really annoying to listen to, It's a combination between the IRs that were loaded and their EQs, plus the sound of the digital signal being replicated. lol in a mix most people wouldn't hear it but on its own, its annoying. Fractal definitely nipped the bud in that sense, their IR EQ is much easier to listen to.

@autechrr 5 ай бұрын

Quad cortex

@joemom1012 2 жыл бұрын

the differnce is with in you and your senses inwictch every one is differnt however i like something els better then both thees however i also shred this a whole difernt way then you wich makes it look so easy its borring tho so good work