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@sanimohammedabubakarladisc56203 жыл бұрын
The smart Avraham, always smart, Mr man you are dealing with the smart guy call Avraham
@nanakwame65323 жыл бұрын
Avraham is very smart scholar in this field. He knows how to defeat Religious demagogues.
@aduanabaokubi74293 жыл бұрын
The crux of the disagreement regarding the topic is the definition of “invention”. The pastor looked at this from the perspective of how Christianity evolved regarding the individuals, persons or groups who penned the scriptures. His main argument was that it wasn’t the Piso family which wrote the New Testament. He, however, failed to separate the king Piso from the entire family as Avram pointed. It wasn’t jut a single individual. Avram, on the other hand, viewed “invention” as lifting passages from the Old Testament and in most instances distorting such as revelations or prophecies in the New Testament. In our current environment, we could refer to such a photoshopped from the Old Testament to “invent” the New Testament. In effect, Avram sees such photoshopping as an invention (creating something new from the old) while in actual fact nothing new has been created. What’s astonishing is the pastor recounting a historical sequence without making a solid connection to the salient facts as to where and when the Bible was written; and presumably also by who (if discounting the Piso factor). Avram on the other hand was able to indicate that the new was “invented” ( created) from the old and distorted. In sum, they look at “invention” from different angles but Avram was more succinct in joining the dots. I am by no means suggesting that the pastor is wrong. What l imply is that he should have made the connection between the history and the evolution of the New Testament.
@steppzz13 жыл бұрын
Haven't even watched the whole show yet, but your submission of the overall debate is an excellent critical thinking analysis which I can also foretell will happen. Thanks for the heads up ✌✌✌
@102200973 жыл бұрын
Very honest submission
@amapomaah82163 жыл бұрын
i think Avram made justice to his paraphrasing submission whereas i think the Pastor should have had time to buttress his points by connecting the historical facts to the writings of the new testaments if there was one
@aduanabaokubi74293 жыл бұрын
Ama Pomaah Agreed. The pastor failed to make a conclusive argument
@emmanuelatsavede41113 жыл бұрын
Brilliant exposition.The evangelist should rather defend the content of the bible he uses ever day instead relying on relying on what some body said it it.His argument is one part and not sufficient.Avraham on the other hand has done a painstaking research work to show the craftiness in manipulation the new testament with the old
@charlesadjei35333 жыл бұрын
Wow Avram, you have really studied this book called Holy Book. I was expecting the pastor to explain the verses Avraham read with spiritual understanding so we will all know that Avraham is throwing dust in our eyes. But it looks like know Pastor had been able to do that. Please pastors could you please help us clear the dust Avraham is putting in our eyes?
@michaelowoo56983 жыл бұрын
Avraham u are really a legend and a great teacher keep it up
@emmanuelquaye207310 ай бұрын
4±(&//
@kwasiagyeman88243 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly I don't want the opponent talk oooh for all the debate to waste my time.. I just want to learn so I only listen to ABM part
@zidanedaniels43803 жыл бұрын
This pastor comes to give us history books not to debate
@richn.57603 жыл бұрын
'Ey3a ka Twi ma me'. Oso: 'Okay, don't worry'😄😄😄😄
@telvinteiko22173 жыл бұрын
Pastor is teaching history and his route will backfire on him...
@waltersamuel20773 жыл бұрын
Anyone who comment that’s Avraham lost this debate is not an honest person. Don’t let your dislike for him cloud your judgement. The pastor gave us a history background but failed to point out in the bible the real topic on board.. do the pastors teach this history in their churches? For u to give proof of something is legit u have to use the same bible or book to justify your point in which Avraham did that using the same bible to proof his points. You cannot use history book and literature to proof the bible is legit. U have to use the same bible to proof your point. The truth is always the truth.. anyone can watch the debate and decide for themselves.
@user-jy2wi9bw8m6 ай бұрын
this avraham is misquoting the scriptures, do you how this man is killing people with this his demonic teaching.
@user-jy2wi9bw8m6 ай бұрын
my brother it seem you also don't read the bible following this avraham, I don't dislike avraham, if you keep following this posses guy you surely perish
@henryattah80283 жыл бұрын
Please before your guests speaks, introduce what the topic of the debate is,both in TWI and English
@derekdow65943 жыл бұрын
You use bible to preach in churches, take tithes and collections, But using different sources to debate Wake up Ghanaians and Africans you been fool too long.
@justicebonney3 жыл бұрын
Professor. Avram been moshe😘😘😘 Obenfo avram.... I love you 😍😍
@andrewadjeteyadjei11492 жыл бұрын
God bless this pastor
@danielabekah72326 ай бұрын
Wow. im so glad to be a christian and I'm baffled by evangelist's knowledge in explaining and countering the falsehood and the ignorance of Avram. God bless evangelist and thank God avram disgraced himself with this debate. Christ is King!
@chriszla62743 ай бұрын
You are just being foolish. You know the truth
@DeBlackPolo28 күн бұрын
Ghanafo) ne gyimi keke
@papajoe923 жыл бұрын
CSF makes you starts to do more research. Bigups CSF
@joekojo8703 жыл бұрын
Wonderful Avraham legend
@kwakuamedor5583 жыл бұрын
Thanks kingdomTV and CSF I Salute you all 👏👍💪❤️🇬🇭💯
@NkwasiasemAkwakwa3 жыл бұрын
Bingo👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Avhram , no size! 💯% The Ancestors are speaking and revealing through Avhram ✊
@fritzellin3 жыл бұрын
This really sad 😓 why are we Ghanaians instead of learning our history and our original we are learning so in depth the history of people who don’t care or give a hoot about our race. What is the significance of the history of the Roman Empire to the development and betterment of the Ghanaian citizenry? Anyway, keep it up Avraham.
@nanaaddaedennis58983 жыл бұрын
On the 2nd time given to the Pastor, i expected him to prove whether or not the quotations from Avram's didnt actually mean it was invented...
@richardadu-gyamfi79563 жыл бұрын
Pastors looking into depths of heart. Pastor all these dates are not necessary. Go to the point? They are now serious about critical studies. Wonderful!
@mckellyasiedu21863 жыл бұрын
Avhram is making these pastors to rethink , learn and revise notes all over again. The guy dey school dem
@adjeteyfiosum9713 жыл бұрын
Say it again
@official_believer13 жыл бұрын
Maaad🔥🔥🔥❣️
@maxwelloseiadu92293 жыл бұрын
You too good,Avraham!!!
@maxwelloseiadu92293 жыл бұрын
Okatakyie Obeng, I like how u keep your cool.
@realbabs51123 жыл бұрын
Pastor Encyclopedia Britannica
@dkoupdates2013 жыл бұрын
I dey die lmao
@bismarkappiah86573 жыл бұрын
😄😃😃😄😄😄😄😄😄
@afreek99463 жыл бұрын
Great share my friends!
@ibrincoosmanbin7083 жыл бұрын
Ohhh my godoooo so nobody pastors can expose my man Avram it means Avram is on point
@andrewadjeteyadjei11492 жыл бұрын
Pastor Obadiah debated Avram and Avram has to walk out.
@andrewadjeteyadjei11492 жыл бұрын
Avram deviated from the topic
@andrewadjeteyadjei11492 жыл бұрын
When Avram see he is losing a debate then he becomes dramatic
@justicebonney3 жыл бұрын
Undebatable..... No pastor can fix avram.. Continue avram... Vim... Never change continue to change the world 😘😘😘 your statues must be built in Ghana
@khonesty27873 жыл бұрын
Long life Avra
@manteyba273 жыл бұрын
Pastor go and come again
@doncoulibaly48883 жыл бұрын
Beeeeeeeeeen Mosheeeeee,you're too deep.Pastor go and come again next time,knowledge is power✌✌✌👏🙏🙏🙏Don Coulibaly
@stephenjohnson35423 жыл бұрын
Avraham has got a brilliant understanding of the Bible.
Can you please pastor tell us what year was Okumfo Anokye born? Since your master of world religious history. All what your telling us is what's already in the Goggle, but you still haven't explain how the Bible is either invented or sent by God
@bismarkghtvchannel18563 жыл бұрын
Today avraham has meat his meter
@stephenjohnson35423 жыл бұрын
Pastor, please defend Avraham's point and stop the dates and history. Where's your point?
@kassimsaeed7893 жыл бұрын
He has failed the debate. He started very well but has made the discussion boring.
@hotlinkstv8413 жыл бұрын
Avram ❤💪👐
@adjeteyfiosum9713 жыл бұрын
Avraham sent them back to sch
@yawsaahene13 жыл бұрын
CSF🔥🔥🔥
@bernarddarkwah39983 жыл бұрын
I've watch almost 30 minutes, Pastor is only telling us the roman history without saying anything how it's related to the authenticity of the new testament
@gyanfuseini14773 жыл бұрын
CFS all the way
@ishakbanuroan-nachie68833 жыл бұрын
What kind of Ananse story is this
@bernarddarkwah39983 жыл бұрын
OK this pastor should just give us the history of Akans. See how u hv chewed the white man's history page for page.
@nanakwame75113 жыл бұрын
Csf for life Franklin Spain
@nashvilletv82153 жыл бұрын
with all those history and debate the Romans were able to build their country,where are we as Ghanaians,where do we stand with our economy and our own history ????
@soniaquesada75893 жыл бұрын
We are all illuminated..black needs to create our own holy book..Okomfo anokye chapter 1vs1..piaww
@josephquaye51553 жыл бұрын
It seems all the pastors are coming from Kumasi. Kennedy Agyapong said this but some people simply didn’t want t to accept it
@skeentaylor94622 жыл бұрын
god of the youth.u do all ben moshe
@angelgabrielobengnkansah77313 жыл бұрын
GOD bless you Pastor
@Kojo_Quainoo3 жыл бұрын
You should’ve been a historian teacher and taking the government’s money instead of pastor and taking our people’s money. Do you teach history at your church?
@agyeinana11213 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@kofibekoe26253 жыл бұрын
@@agyeinana1121 this is a debate
@sakotoful3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@bernarddarkwah39983 жыл бұрын
Everybody here should watch the documentary named "ceasers messiah"
@messiahniklas34103 жыл бұрын
i learn from that. avraham is right
@frederickakuffoboateng24723 жыл бұрын
Avraham you do all !!
@nanakwame65323 жыл бұрын
Avraham is doing the job university professors in Africa are afraid to do.
@kassimsaeed7893 жыл бұрын
He himself has even made am error. He said Jew was a country under the roman empire
@realbratubu74683 жыл бұрын
@@kassimsaeed789 which human doesn't make mistakes
@Infinity-rg3zg3 жыл бұрын
This is very sad oo .. if u think about this very well you’ll see how sad this is ! Look at how this pastor is serious defending this ! A creator sending someone to die for sins how does this makes sense ?? We as Africans thinking about how we can save our economy look at this man with useless history ! Ah !! Someone being killed in Israel how does this affect us and even the world what sense is in this kraa ! We are hungry, we want jobs and a better living how has Jesus solved this problem for us ?
@kassimsaeed7893 жыл бұрын
It only tells you how terrible we are. If he knew any of the history of any African empire like this or even his own akan history, that will have been useful to our African consciousness. Abraham is the one doing great work. Encouraging us to uphold our self identity as Africans.
@kofisossuvi88783 жыл бұрын
Which kind of this stupid history,how does josephuse have to do with me in Ghana
@kwekuTruthfirst7773 жыл бұрын
Bro ask him for me
@faithfat12682 жыл бұрын
In fact o,Josephus,Peeso,Neuro,Constantine etc etc. Yabre o
@kelvinstyles15743 жыл бұрын
788 or 787 does that change your chop money? Stick to the topic
@user-jy2wi9bw8m6 ай бұрын
Pastor God bless you
@hotlinkstv8413 жыл бұрын
The pastor have not answered the topic .
@francisquarm3 жыл бұрын
Kool chop kraaa
@benhenneh51013 жыл бұрын
This pastor should tell the history to coronavirus n ebola , upon all the history you couldn't correct all the contradictions in the Bible nanamia. Well done Ben Moshe
@tetteviben3 жыл бұрын
In ancient Egypt, the worshipers of the Greco-Kemetic god of SERAPIS, were already calling themselves Christians. There were lots of Christs (Saviours) before the fake Yesus Kristos was invented by the Romans..
@kojowiredu3 жыл бұрын
This is why the African is his own enemy. This is why religion has poisoned us. This is why we have that deep inferiority complex. This is why brothers and sisters will die crossing deserts and oceans. This is why we will pray, sing, worship, offer, tithe, fast and still wallow in poverty and despair. This is why they will fight against common sense and call it an evil agenda. This is why I cry silently in my heart.😢😥😢
@derekdow65943 жыл бұрын
I cried reading your comments , why because I'm living in Europe and I'm witnessing and experiencing a lot I mean a lot. Thank you for your seach nice comments.
@kojowiredu3 жыл бұрын
@@derekdow6594 thank you for your kind and heartfelt words. Let's all do what we can to help ourselves and each other to break this heavy yoke. There's hope💪
@jaywabenzy94823 жыл бұрын
Csf to the world ❤🔥😂 Jay Q in the building ❤🔥🤣🤣 Pastor or researcher please don't come tomorrow wai 🤣🤣🤣
@jamessarpong71563 жыл бұрын
Pastor you lost completely from the topic.
@abueghan13633 жыл бұрын
Wagyimii paa oo
@Amasika2 Жыл бұрын
Only sensible ones will understand you and not thieves in suits like their pastors
@kofiata2 жыл бұрын
There is a difference between argument and debate, Debates yield understandable results while arguments leave both parties unsatisfied... Anyway the history by the pastor is correct, it is also true Evraham did not get the historical facts or points right but it does not disproof the fact that the bible has discrepancies.,,,,, and that is the point.
@freethinker16793 жыл бұрын
Avram made a clear case to show that the new testament plagiarized (copied) the old testament. How can pastor history teacher ignore plagiarized work?! This pastor did not come to debate if the new testament was invented. He came to tell Avram it could not have been invented by the people Avram claims invented it.
@dbob6323 жыл бұрын
No matter how you gave the historical background of the book , we are waiting know either the Bible was from God or man? Was it compiled by a man or God?
@jemilaiddrisu51243 жыл бұрын
Exactly who wrote the book!!
@junioremmanuel82363 жыл бұрын
You don't like learning that is why Avram is deceiving you
@jemilaiddrisu51243 жыл бұрын
junior emmanuel 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@telvinteiko22173 жыл бұрын
What the heck is pastor talking about ?what is the main theme if the debate?
@damish-22condo3 жыл бұрын
The pastor thinks he knows his knows history the piso family Flavius are the same person
@tetteviben3 жыл бұрын
B.C. does not mean Before Christ, it means Before the Common Era..
@ghanausmc3 жыл бұрын
lmaooo i shock how stupid people r
@kirkcrentsil9693 жыл бұрын
The pastor has failed totally
@jamesoppong23873 жыл бұрын
Aah Africa when
@aduanabaokubi74293 жыл бұрын
The pastor is wrong to say that there should not be a biblical quote when talking about THE HISTORICAL JESUS. The story in the Bible is itself historical. The story about Jesus is therefore historical.
@firtzmakossa28433 жыл бұрын
It was Nero himself who burned down the City as a false flag 🚩 against his opposition.
@jenrolatubi90582 жыл бұрын
Really admire the Pastor, he stuck to the topic!
@charlesdumenyo4557 Жыл бұрын
Outside the Bible 🤦🏻♂️
@freemindphamly93443 жыл бұрын
I just started watching...👀
@jeekanza3 жыл бұрын
History is written by those in power I doubt they will write against power of that time
@kassimsaeed7893 жыл бұрын
One suggestion / advice I will give to Avram is that, he should work on his emotions. If he is able to do that, It will catapult this revolution very far. I hope he will listen. He should try to stay very calm. It is a weakness that if not managed well, it can affect.
@telvinteiko22173 жыл бұрын
What will 788 and 777 change about what Avhram misquoting years.
@abrempongetv11493 жыл бұрын
We don't need this style of debates, we want to learn not to argue
@kzkinc63 жыл бұрын
Please brethren, i have only one question and my question is why is it that all the people that existed in Bible, non of their ancestors exist today as i speak?????????
@wilfrednyamekyeyata91982 ай бұрын
JESUS IS LORD
@ezekielquaicoe50153 жыл бұрын
The pastor vest 😂😂😂
@telvinteiko22173 жыл бұрын
Good pastor believes in encyclopedia historical facts.. Biblical claims are mostly not factual
@enochyeboah11613 жыл бұрын
Thank you Evangelist for giving facts.
@pagebanks78483 жыл бұрын
You got your business partner
@charlesdumenyo4557 Жыл бұрын
Facts that do not exist in the inspired book very sad🤦🏻♂️😢
@kwesidiamonds82423 жыл бұрын
Let's Avraham talks about just one miracle from Just-us/ Jesus , the whole place will turn into chaos.
@enochyeboah11613 жыл бұрын
God bless you Evangelist Wilberforce. You are a blessing to this generation
@puritycapsulestv.85563 жыл бұрын
Bless you too bro
@atigahmoses43233 жыл бұрын
Lol thieves in suit
@isaacagyemang48373 жыл бұрын
Okatakye this debate is boring we don’t need the history of Roman Empire
@ras30543 жыл бұрын
It now makes sense why the Muslims say that the Bible is corrupted.. 3y3 ampa Paaa
@freethinker16793 жыл бұрын
The pastor should have asked for clarification from Avram before starting his submission. I'm sure Avram is talking about organised religion known as Christianity (where by they sat down and made rules and agreed on doctrine and dogma) being the invention. Of course there were followers of christ around before that (the disciples for example). It's like saying nobody played football in Ghana until the FA was formed.
@kofiata2 жыл бұрын
Freethinker 1 The belief or religion of the disciples and jesus himself was called judaism. Christianity and Islam came out of judaism. All three of them are Abrahamic religions. The main difference between these religions is that christians believe jesus is the son of God and jesus is god. Both judaism and islam strongly disagree with that idealogy.
@emmanuelatsavede41113 жыл бұрын
Am hugely disappointed in the Evangelist and his companion Doctor.They did not do themselves any justice at all.Firstly you can't prove the existence of a historical fact by just referring to or relying on one source,rediculouse.so just traveling to Accra to just condemn Abraham on the inconsistencies in the writers of the new testament or dates is below their calibre. Intellectuals debate this issue by citing historical evidence based on write ups,archeology etc and more importantly the bible it self which is the primary source of evidence.Therefore Avraham has done a great painful research by identifying how they pick versus in the old testament and then fix them in the new and there are many. The Evangelist failed to use the primary source of evidence which is the bible to prove the source of the New testament.The historical write ups are no more important than believing Mary got impregnated by a Holly spirit or we not having any evidence about the extended of the characters except in the bible???.
@deetraid50663 жыл бұрын
Hmm 🤔 I’m just confused 🤷♂️ are we here for history classes or Debate? This is pretty much boring 😑 😑 😑Pastor is Dodging fr The Bible
@kelvinstyles15743 жыл бұрын
Does he even know today’s topic?
@isaacgyabaah64733 жыл бұрын
Oso please wait oooh where is your bible????
@dbob6323 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭, so we don't have a history as a humans? Shame and sad
@junioremmanuel82363 жыл бұрын
You be there avram cannot prove even his source, he is confuse person
@Don-qk4ki3 жыл бұрын
are we focusing on the content or date
@Pretypea3 жыл бұрын
People should watch the documentary 'marketing the messiah'
@nanaaddaedennis58983 жыл бұрын
I think the ''invention'' Avram's said meant certain verses in the new testament were designed from the old testament which i think the pastor needed to show those new testament verses were not actually from the old testament... He could have done this on the 2nd time given to him.