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The Spartans chronicles the rise and fall of one of the most extreme civilisations the world has ever witnessed. A civilization that was founded on discipline, sacrifice and frugality where the onus was on the collective and the goal was to create the perfect state, and the perfect warrior. Classical historian Bettany Hughes reveals the secrets and complexities of everyday Spartan life: homosexuality was compulsory, money was outlawed, equality was enforced, weak boys were put to death and women enjoyed a level of social and sexual freedom that was unheard of in the ancient world. It was a nation of fearsome fighters where a glorious death was treasured. This can be aptly demonstrated by the kamikaze last stand at Thermopylae, where King Leonidas and his warriors fought with swords, hands and teeth to fend off the Persian invaders and show the rest of the world what it meant to be Spartan. Programme two explores the bitter rivalry between Sparta and Athens and their startlingly different views of women. They were two cities with totally opposed views of the 'good life'. For Athens, Sparta was a frightening place that turned its children into fighting machines. But worse still were Sparta's women: liberated, independent, opinionated, they took an active part in sport, raced horses and chariots, celebrated nudity and wielded power in the absence of their men. They were an affront to Athenian notions of femininity. When war between Sparta and Athens finally came, it raged for decades and split the Greek world. Until, on the island of Sphacteria, the reputation of Sparta's famed warriors for fearlessness was shockingly undermined. It cannot lay claim to the philosophers or artists of Athens but Sparta contributed as much to western civilisation as Athens did. Indeed it was Sparta, not Athens that was the first city to offer citizenship to its inhabitants. To many, the ideals formed 2500 years ago in Sparta can be seen as a fore-runner of modern-day totalitarianism. By setting out to create a perfect society protected by perfect warriors, Sparta made an enemy of change. A collapsing birth-rate, too few warriors, rebellious slaves, and outdated attitudes to weaponry and warfare combined to sow the seeds of Sparta's destruction. Eventually the once great warrior state was reduced to a stop for Roman tourists who came to view the bizarre sado-masochistic rituals. Documentary first broadcast in 2003.
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@gitBritt
@gitBritt 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact. In March 12 1996 the Mayor of Athens and Sparta signed a peace treaty 2,500 years after the war ended.
@gitBritt
@gitBritt 3 жыл бұрын
@Jed Clampett I hope so 😁
@blankblank5409
@blankblank5409 3 жыл бұрын
@Jed Clampett Nope there gonna go right back to killing each other unless islam invades
@4ur3n
@4ur3n 3 жыл бұрын
@@blankblank5409 hey thanks Caesar
@NAYTILOS70
@NAYTILOS70 3 жыл бұрын
ΟΧΙ 12-3-1996 ΑΛΛΑ 10-3-1996... Το κείμενο της συνθήκης αναφέρει: «Σήμερα, 10 Μαρτίου 1996, στὴν πρωτεύουσα τῆς Λακεδαίμονος, ὁ δήμαρχος Ἀθηναίων καὶ ὁ δήμαρχος Σπαρτιατῶν ἐκφράζουν τὴ βαθύτατη θλίψη τους γιὰ τὴν πολυαίμακτη σύρραξη τῶν δύο κορυφαίων πόλεων τῆς ἀρχαίας Ἑλλάδος καὶ διακηρύττουν τὴν λήξη μὲ ὅρους ἰσοτιμίας ἀναδρομικὰ τοῦ καταστροφικοῦ ἐκείνου πολέμου «Ἀθηναίων καὶ Πελοποννησίων» καὶ τὴν ἐμπέδωση ἀρρήκτων μεταξὺ τῶν δύο πόλεων δεσμῶν φιλίας καὶ συνεργασίας, μὲ ἠθικὸ ἔρεισμα καὶ τὴν ἀρχαία ἱστορικὴ μεγαλουργία τους. Ὁ Δήμαρχος Σπαρτιατῶν Δημοσθένης Ματάλας Ὁ Δήμαρχος Ἀθηναίων Δημήτρης Ἀβραμόπουλος»
@Ben-bg2lp
@Ben-bg2lp 3 жыл бұрын
The two mayors were more geeks than Greeks!
@janaoh5785
@janaoh5785 4 жыл бұрын
Once again, a great formula for a history documentary: beautiful landscapes, actual locations, interesting narrative. None of these digitally created images, but rather realia. Real artefacts, swords, anecdotes. Love it.
@jasonleslie203
@jasonleslie203 4 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine what this type of society would look like if it survived into the modern world. Would they have evolved in weapons? If so how differant would our world look like.
@yor90
@yor90 4 жыл бұрын
@Rios Salvajes yes! my thoughts exactly.
@BridgesDontFly
@BridgesDontFly 4 жыл бұрын
Typical female thinking. Sparta: Men are disposable. Glad that's changing now. Wake up men marriage does not benefit you at all.
@aleksandarfrick2656
@aleksandarfrick2656 4 жыл бұрын
And beautifull Lady narrator .
@hisenhasani2979
@hisenhasani2979 3 жыл бұрын
In albanian language word (spata ) sword, spata =sparta
@WilliamLawrence7
@WilliamLawrence7 2 жыл бұрын
No matter how many times I've watched these, I can keep coming back and watch Bettany talk about ancient Greece all day long...
@DesertAres
@DesertAres 8 ай бұрын
I am the same!
@Shastasnow
@Shastasnow 4 жыл бұрын
"My sword is too short" "Take a step forward and it would be long enough" xD
@tullussulla6167
@tullussulla6167 4 жыл бұрын
"It will be the sizes of a lion, as I bore it down on my enemy "
@Romellenios_Lanz_Daemos
@Romellenios_Lanz_Daemos 4 жыл бұрын
"Dig it out for yourselves!"
@danielledoyle434
@danielledoyle434 4 жыл бұрын
Words of wisdom.
@pound4pound380
@pound4pound380 4 жыл бұрын
Greek history is night and day from Ancient Kemet (Egypt) history. All Greeks every did is glorify war and homosexuality. Kemet glorified art and story telling.
@Jbamb92
@Jbamb92 4 жыл бұрын
I like to think that was the spartan mother’s moderate equivalent of “maybe if you weren’t on that damn phone so much”
@SteveB357
@SteveB357 4 жыл бұрын
Please don't forget the Thespians. They didn't have to stay, but did and died like the Spartans.
@joelkurowski9276
@joelkurowski9276 4 жыл бұрын
@edwardschlosser1 this tbh, the Thespians were such drama queens
@fondren001
@fondren001 3 жыл бұрын
@@joelkurowski9276 The common noun thespian meaning "actor" comes from the legendary first actor named Thespis, and not the city. Both Thespis and Thespiae, however, are derived from the noun θέσπις (théspis, "divine inspiration").
@johncopenhaver4311
@johncopenhaver4311 3 жыл бұрын
So did many other Greeks however those sacrifices didn't even come close to the ones who knew from the gate they were going to receive a beautiful death.
@johncopenhaver4311
@johncopenhaver4311 3 жыл бұрын
@@fondren001 or muse if you will God how I hate people who know something I do not.
@elbat5946
@elbat5946 3 жыл бұрын
edwardschlosser1 - lmaoooo
@Cory_Dora
@Cory_Dora 6 жыл бұрын
Ive read a few books on the history of Greece, including Sparta...this doc series is spot on keeping with the common perceptions of historians. Nicely done.
@wierdalien1
@wierdalien1 6 жыл бұрын
Kathryn Crook from 2002ish. And its a BBC general broadcast documentary not a lecture.
@WilliamLawrence7
@WilliamLawrence7 2 жыл бұрын
well we're glad it has you're expert approval.
@tylerjeb7888
@tylerjeb7888 2 жыл бұрын
It's not. They say homosexuality was compulsory in Sparta. You would have to be braindead to believe this. Just look at modern societies and the rarity of homosexuality in global cultures. According to Xenophon "[Lycurgus] … laid down that in Sparta lovers should refrain from molesting boys, just as much as parents avoid having intercourse with their children or brothers with their sisters." - The BBC is legitimately one of the least credible sources in media along with the History Channel in the U.S.
@sh-hg4eg
@sh-hg4eg 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerjeb7888 unfortunately modern narratives are often inserted into history and obscure or uncommon things are often magnified to fit the contemporary narrative. Not only that but her other documentary on Spartan she claimed they had no claim to art and yet Spartan was famed for its art and often traded their art as a luxury to surrounding nations.
@tylerjeb7888
@tylerjeb7888 2 жыл бұрын
@@sh-hg4eg yeah it's incredible how much of it is complete fiction and how they sell it as legitimate history.
@spideywhiplash
@spideywhiplash 3 жыл бұрын
Anything with Bettany Hughes is a masterpiece!
@jakemoeller7850
@jakemoeller7850 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, she and Mary Beard are excellent presenters.
@GB-zc3zb
@GB-zc3zb 3 жыл бұрын
Have hjhhhhhhe
@maximilianjohandson3382
@maximilianjohandson3382 3 жыл бұрын
She’s really gained weight lately though.
@nialloflaherty9
@nialloflaherty9 3 жыл бұрын
@@GB-zc3zb pl
@RUESPEED1
@RUESPEED1 3 жыл бұрын
Bettany. Is the Masterpiece
@keeganrichards3163
@keeganrichards3163 4 жыл бұрын
are you saying that kratos had his cheeks busted wide open?
@JokersVsZombies
@JokersVsZombies 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Yrkr785
@Yrkr785 3 жыл бұрын
To learn humility ones cheeks need be parted - Socrates
@drizztdourden5291
@drizztdourden5291 2 жыл бұрын
Yup he had his cheeks busted.
@mmuok4133
@mmuok4133 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yrkr785 😂😂😂😂🤌🏾
@felipecortez1042
@felipecortez1042 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yrkr785 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@INEBRIATEDEPIPHANIES
@INEBRIATEDEPIPHANIES 2 жыл бұрын
I could watch these kinds of docs all day. Love classical history.
@fireboltaz
@fireboltaz 2 жыл бұрын
When she wears that red dress and describes the sexual conduct of Spartans, I can't help believing she's not aroused by what she's saying.
@tylerjeb7888
@tylerjeb7888 2 жыл бұрын
@@fireboltaz She is. And she's not a historian, she's a total crackpot. Homosexuality was compulsory in Sparta? Is this a joke? This is low even for BBC. You could barely call this historical fiction, these people are just making it up as they go along.
@fireboltaz
@fireboltaz 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerjeb7888 does anyone know what ever happened to her? I’d like to send her a positive note that her knowledge changed my appreciation for the Spartan community
@raulpetrascu2696
@raulpetrascu2696 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the information might be a bit outdated now (as any doc from 2003 would be) like the state progammed infanticide bit. Thankfully we have a lot of KZfaq channels covering these topics nowadays we can watch
@susanmcdonald9088
@susanmcdonald9088 Жыл бұрын
@@tylerjeb7888 let's see. They lived in barracks & their wives? They were expected to sneak out and have visits, to reproduce only, conjugal visits by any other name. So, what do you think really went on knowing drives...
@scott9628
@scott9628 3 жыл бұрын
The Spartan men really did believe in bros before hos!
@ydelysuarez2548
@ydelysuarez2548 3 жыл бұрын
And institutionalized pedophilia ... 😳
@jghillas
@jghillas 3 жыл бұрын
@@ydelysuarez2548 pederasty, not pedophilia.
@YoungstersHustle
@YoungstersHustle 2 жыл бұрын
@@jghillas tomato tomato
@danebrass1473
@danebrass1473 2 жыл бұрын
@@jghillas explain the difference?
@straya4837
@straya4837 2 жыл бұрын
@@YoungstersHustle you need to read more.
@billscannell93
@billscannell93 2 жыл бұрын
Those Spartans... They were an intense people, to say the least.
@rdowg
@rdowg 3 жыл бұрын
"The mother hitched up her skirt, and said to her son 'are you going to crawl back to where you came from' " Jesus christ sparta was full of savages
@spartanwolf
@spartanwolf 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez... he never showed his face in public again
@peyotefinder69
@peyotefinder69 3 жыл бұрын
If that was my mom I would’ve slapped her 😂
@berilsevvalbekret772
@berilsevvalbekret772 2 жыл бұрын
@@peyotefinder69 yeah I don't think so
@peyotefinder69
@peyotefinder69 2 жыл бұрын
@@berilsevvalbekret772 another woman telling a man what he should or shouldn’t do, times never change 😂
@berilsevvalbekret772
@berilsevvalbekret772 2 жыл бұрын
@@peyotefinder69 dude she would slap you with the ppwer of 1000 pimps. You wouldn't.
@philipswain4122
@philipswain4122 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved Ancient Greek history.
@danicornea
@danicornea 3 жыл бұрын
As usual, a real treat to watch this Beautiful& Intelligent Scholar....my favourite Lady for learning ancient history....Bless you Bettany Hughes...
@straya4837
@straya4837 2 жыл бұрын
She was/ is gorgeous!
@hanscyrus
@hanscyrus 4 жыл бұрын
Whoever was responsible for writing the script our Bettany narrates I want to commend. Excellent command of the English language with juicy words and sentence structures sprinkled in to make the story enjoyable and a pleasure to listen to and watch. #aHatTip
@lorrainemoynehan6791
@lorrainemoynehan6791 2 жыл бұрын
what makes you think that Bethany, a classics scholar, couldn't write it?
@kumar-bq4so
@kumar-bq4so 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@EC___
@EC___ 4 жыл бұрын
" The Spartans disliked walls because walls defined cities, and cities, if you weren't careful encouraged other things like Democracy And if theres one thing that Sparta distrusted more than walls it was Democracy... " What an absolute true and genius mentality.
@gentlemanfarmer6042
@gentlemanfarmer6042 3 жыл бұрын
@Alison Chains OH it goes well beyond that, the loss of self-reliance is a big one, along with the idea of "Living Comfortably" behind ones walls; you lose your "edge or sharpness". Lots of little things, that when added up, destroy us as "people"...
@fondren001
@fondren001 3 жыл бұрын
dingdingdingdingding!~ WE FOUND A COMMIE! xD
@Hoi4o
@Hoi4o 3 жыл бұрын
If you read Xenophon, Aristotle and Plutarch, you'll see the Spartans neither hated, nor feared democracy. A lot of their own public leaders and servants were also elected by vote (except for their kings, of course).The main difference was that Sparta had a set of ancient laws and traditions that were not up for debate and change, unlike Athens. No amount of votes could change them, just like you can't cahnge a Constitution today just by popular vote. In practice Sparta was something very similar to what we could call today "a constitutional dual monarchy".
@benjibenj7406
@benjibenj7406 2 жыл бұрын
@@fondren001 are communists the only people who dont like democracy? hmmm.
@yourmother2739
@yourmother2739 2 жыл бұрын
@@benjibenj7406 That is a myth about communism. You could say that capitalists do not like democracy.
@smh5252
@smh5252 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else here addicted to playing AC odyssey the historical accuracy is incredible
@tomaslekis3262
@tomaslekis3262 3 жыл бұрын
Professors use it as a teaching tool in their grad courses. It’s amazing.
@kevinohalloran8465
@kevinohalloran8465 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomaslekis3262 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaàaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaààààaaàaàààààààà
@amyconway9035
@amyconway9035 3 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to buy a PS4 just so I can explore AC Odyssey
@user-vl2mr8mr5u
@user-vl2mr8mr5u 3 жыл бұрын
What are u talking u idiot Spartans are myth there were weak compared to Athens idk why america see spartan as some sub human gods. When in reality they wanted to leave thermoply everyone except the phoenicians the athenians and leonidas. That's it
@Jan_von_Gratschoff
@Jan_von_Gratschoff 3 жыл бұрын
Except that there was an actual law in Sparta prohibiting men from having mustaches, and every spartan with a beard in AC Odyssey has a mustache. That's a pretty glaring inaccuracy right off the bat. :D
@robertcullins4636
@robertcullins4636 3 жыл бұрын
Bettany Hughes: Her beauty is legendary...
@Shinobi33
@Shinobi33 3 жыл бұрын
Oh please. What she needs to do is just narrate and stop showing herself constantly. It's a documentary not the Bettany Huges hour
@marco3154
@marco3154 3 жыл бұрын
@wild Times that's yr mom, pony !!!
@marco3154
@marco3154 3 жыл бұрын
@wild Times I have no feelings. Yr mom is the village mare.
@marco3154
@marco3154 3 жыл бұрын
@wild Times no.im not related to yr mom.
@MustardMasterX
@MustardMasterX 3 жыл бұрын
@wild Times Well regardless horses are in like the top ten hottest animals, just ask John Oliver. So your point is moot.
@jdzencelowcz
@jdzencelowcz 5 жыл бұрын
I'mma say it, the Timeline Spartan trillogy reenactments R the best reenactments I've seen so far!
@jasonfisk2520
@jasonfisk2520 3 жыл бұрын
A very well made and extremely interesting documentary series. Thank You.
@JesusGarcia-ec7fy
@JesusGarcia-ec7fy 2 жыл бұрын
Great documentary, interesting content, and a beautiful historian narrating
@revolutionarydragon1123
@revolutionarydragon1123 2 жыл бұрын
What you trying to say
@brendaproffitt1011
@brendaproffitt1011 6 жыл бұрын
Totally incredible documentary film...very interesting to...Thank you so much for your videos too...
@chris.asi_romeo
@chris.asi_romeo Жыл бұрын
Love watching documentaries like this
@Will-gd8wu
@Will-gd8wu 5 жыл бұрын
'Great documentary by Bettany Hughes, an award winning historian, author and a scholar from Oxford University that specialises in ancient history' Comment section: ACKHTYUALLY I thInK YoU'lL FiNd
@trangiahuy260593
@trangiahuy260593 4 жыл бұрын
@tom blake yes indeed she is
@quickdeuce
@quickdeuce 4 жыл бұрын
Bettany, apparently obsessed with the time of Spartan very likely harbors a wish that she was living at that time and could enjoy the advances of Spartan men.
@lv67890
@lv67890 4 жыл бұрын
John Z, apparently obsessed with reducing a female historian to a fan girl, wished he was respected as much as she is.
@lv67890
@lv67890 4 жыл бұрын
@Kevin Burrow Take some time off your red pill magical mystery tour to look up "straw man argument."
@lv67890
@lv67890 4 жыл бұрын
@Kevin Burrow Consider sobriety.
@tedmink7568
@tedmink7568 2 жыл бұрын
Athens was intellectual strength and Sparta was physical strength. The best combination!
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 2 жыл бұрын
And yet, the Spartans were no meatheads and the Athenians no creampuffs - in both cases, very far from it.
@terryprofitt6902
@terryprofitt6902 Жыл бұрын
if only they could have united and have become one society. but the differences were too great
@stevejessemey8428
@stevejessemey8428 4 жыл бұрын
An overwhelming coverage and wealth of Greek History, with a touch of Spicy commentary to tie everything together. This could also be described as an accent sexual Educational Documentary.
@mxfern12
@mxfern12 2 жыл бұрын
Great narration, accurate and with great nuggets of information!!!
@ruttolomeo1987
@ruttolomeo1987 3 жыл бұрын
most likely the best 45 minutes ever spent on KZfaq
@joakimblomqvist7229
@joakimblomqvist7229 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! A wonderful piece of history, a wonderful part of the world presented by a fabulous historian. What's not to love! ❤️
@downtuned9000
@downtuned9000 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the series found out further details on what i knew and found out a bunch of stuff i did not 10/10 still so much to discover on The Spartans
@bearmare9710
@bearmare9710 4 жыл бұрын
Bettany Hughes in a red dress. Priceless.
@susansinsua5583
@susansinsua5583 3 жыл бұрын
Myself I prefer a young Jeremy Brett wearing just a towel to Bettany Hughes bursting out of her T shirt
@kyleanuar9090
@kyleanuar9090 3 жыл бұрын
Lately she's hit the wall. Great thing she doesn't rely on beauty
@sacplissken
@sacplissken 2 жыл бұрын
I give this doco three thumbs up.
@MIRALHA2006
@MIRALHA2006 5 жыл бұрын
A history mark wich everyone must know about, that's Sparta was not only a war state, but its had art and culture, song, music, pohemes, etc. everynthing well explained by the beautifull and comptent historian lady.
@Hittokiri
@Hittokiri 6 жыл бұрын
15:52 the people staring at her tho! XD
@N3Rd32
@N3Rd32 4 жыл бұрын
Only one guy looked at her.. and for a split second.. I'm actually surprised more people didn't stare considering she was being filmed and talking about Spartans down the street. If this was filmed in North America they would have to take 15 redo shots of it due to camera bombers and immature people.
@Tullinia
@Tullinia 2 жыл бұрын
Always a tremendous pleasure to have a documentary narated by the very talented Bettany. The content is superbe, mes félicitations.
@jasonhoven8001
@jasonhoven8001 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Bethany Hughes. Her and Mary beard are two of the best documentary women I have watched. Very knowledgeable, would love to sit in on some of there teachings
@bingeltube
@bingeltube 5 жыл бұрын
Very recommendable!
@reepacheirpfirewalker8629
@reepacheirpfirewalker8629 2 жыл бұрын
Why can't they all just get along. How I love this type of history.
@epic6434
@epic6434 2 жыл бұрын
When another man takes another man's goods it's the cutting out of the root.
@yeetnama9094
@yeetnama9094 Жыл бұрын
multiculturalism doesn't work.
@chriswhite4640
@chriswhite4640 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone watching this after playing assassin's creed odyssey
@TheDevman88
@TheDevman88 4 жыл бұрын
Chris White me bro lol
@usmanakram1843
@usmanakram1843 4 жыл бұрын
AC Odyssey made it easier for me to understand this documentary well. Great game !
@teacupsandtealeave
@teacupsandtealeave 4 жыл бұрын
literally why im here
@davidsan9654
@davidsan9654 4 жыл бұрын
No I've just finished Origins and started Black Flag...should I be playing Odyssey?
@Jbamb92
@Jbamb92 4 жыл бұрын
AC Odyssey is amazing!!!
@caedmonv55
@caedmonv55 3 жыл бұрын
If you systematically starve a bunch of Spartans and absolutely refuse to fight them, I think it's sort of you that's at fault if you give them an alternative to starving to death and they take it. They wanted to die fighting and that was refused, so they had only two options: Die slowly, or surrender. Honor (dying in battle) wasn't on the table so it didn't really matter which they did.
@irinarichmond2447
@irinarichmond2447 Жыл бұрын
Yes!! I don't think they just surrendered out of cowardice; they've trained and were taught their whole lives to die in battle. Just as you pointed out, since their honorable deaths were denied to them, living and possibly having the chance to fight once again was the better solution in their eyes.
@snokelpops
@snokelpops 11 ай бұрын
Though I wonder what their thoughts on suicide before surrendering were, if indeed they couldn’t face their enemy close up.
@stuartdodson6630
@stuartdodson6630 6 жыл бұрын
It wasn't athenians who won the victory on the island but the spartans who lost it. Had they made the attempt early on to escape then they may have been successful in the battle. Maybe they wouldn't have but they would've achieved the glorious death as is attainable when morale is high. Without good morale, such as 72 days in collaboration with dehydration and starvation the glorious death is unattainable within the mind.
@apictureoffunction
@apictureoffunction 4 жыл бұрын
With a basically brainwashed obsession with dying for the good of the state, I imagine a total suicide mission fighting against impossible odds was probably actually a boost to morale for Spartans
@greggoreo6738
@greggoreo6738 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Because. I cant fight my best. And. I die: wondering --- "might i have won? " Gregg Oreo long beach CA
@timeisapathwalkingtounderstand
@timeisapathwalkingtounderstand 6 жыл бұрын
I heard about the Spartans, don't know too much about the history, I know a little now, thank you for posting this video.
@timeisapathwalkingtounderstand
@timeisapathwalkingtounderstand 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Kebab LOL No I've been living on the street 14th Street Union Square New York City to be exact where are you in your home watching KZfaq and you're pretty apartment or house with your mom LMFAO ha ha
@timeisapathwalkingtounderstand
@timeisapathwalkingtounderstand 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Kebab everybody's born stupid is up to us to educate ourselves, if you're calling me stupid you're not very nice, exercise your intelligence by not calling people stupid just because they don't understand or know something if you're not a teenager you sure write like one. are we going to go back and forth with insults like mama jokes because if we are I'm going to stop writing I'm too old for this you have a good night
@DBEdwards
@DBEdwards 5 жыл бұрын
I understand they are a cracking University football team in Southern California now.
@marcuscook7419
@marcuscook7419 2 жыл бұрын
Best voice and tone to fall asleep with
@matthewmccracken5179
@matthewmccracken5179 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Documentary !
@danzel1157
@danzel1157 6 жыл бұрын
Gotta love those Spartan girls!
@abhinayamarykoshy1264
@abhinayamarykoshy1264 5 жыл бұрын
At what part?
@trumpskool-aid5635
@trumpskool-aid5635 5 жыл бұрын
@@nextleader7543 your mom does
@danielwilson6529
@danielwilson6529 4 жыл бұрын
Spartan girls are ok. , Bettany is better
@melinalove764
@melinalove764 4 жыл бұрын
@@nextleader7543 lol
@melinalove764
@melinalove764 4 жыл бұрын
@@nextleader7543 Idiot
@Zovlanov
@Zovlanov 3 жыл бұрын
i already knew what they're going to talk about before even clicking the thumbnail who else?
@rriquelmy3522
@rriquelmy3522 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Thanks
@mariakelly4179
@mariakelly4179 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I like this documentary.
@Wooohooohooo
@Wooohooohooo 2 жыл бұрын
32:00 Spartan Mother hitched up her skirt & said to her deserter Son: Do you intend to crawl back where you came from?
@Privilegeog
@Privilegeog 4 жыл бұрын
BETTANY HUGHES IS SO GORGEOUS AND SO SMART !
@andrewescocia2707
@andrewescocia2707 4 жыл бұрын
unzips pants....
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@phantomspaceman
@phantomspaceman 3 жыл бұрын
That's the last time I skim the documentary before showing it in class.
@miriamkling3346
@miriamkling3346 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I didn't live in Greek ancient times. Very cruel life.
@kellyjordan8507
@kellyjordan8507 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think I could either All the nudity.
@straya4837
@straya4837 2 жыл бұрын
@@kellyjordan8507 youd of had a mindset like theirs!
@incidentalist
@incidentalist 4 жыл бұрын
Back when there was actually HISTORY shows!! LOVE it! So fascinating!! Always crazy to see the past. Always wonder how people will react when they find the remains of us 5000 years from now!? Also, Laaaaaady in Red!! 😍😍💖
@wadeinn463
@wadeinn463 3 жыл бұрын
People in 5000 yrs? No way.
@BryWMac
@BryWMac 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be thrown out as a baby in Sparta lol
@straya4837
@straya4837 2 жыл бұрын
@@BryWMac Id come to protect you!
@straya4837
@straya4837 2 жыл бұрын
@@wadeinn463 who knows......
@biljanamilanovic1682
@biljanamilanovic1682 3 жыл бұрын
Molto interessante! Complimenti!
@andreasleonardo6793
@andreasleonardo6793 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video which labelled certain facts for publishing military spirit among too youths generation thanks for sending
@codybolton9387
@codybolton9387 4 жыл бұрын
"AAAAAAAAAH!!!!"
@mattt6078
@mattt6078 4 жыл бұрын
The pinnacle of Laconic speech
@heretyk_1337
@heretyk_1337 4 жыл бұрын
Famous battle cry of anybody who ever stepped on LEGO piece...
@w.herschelljamisonii9127
@w.herschelljamisonii9127 4 жыл бұрын
W. Churchill said that if you thought that democracy was a good idea, try talking to an average voter for five minutes.
@GeorgeFafa
@GeorgeFafa 4 жыл бұрын
Churchill was an idiot basically. In any case, the original democracy wasnt as democracy is today.
@bradbutcher3984
@bradbutcher3984 4 жыл бұрын
That's why the U.S. is a republic.
@lacey3880
@lacey3880 4 жыл бұрын
@@hakapeszimaki8369 ..!, ur opioniob
@histguy101
@histguy101 4 жыл бұрын
@@hakapeszimaki8369 The western world didn't choose Democracy, they chose "the Republic."
@shainemaine1268
@shainemaine1268 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the "right" way to do it then?
@WhoIsCalli
@WhoIsCalli Жыл бұрын
Very good, thanks
@jordanchen5965
@jordanchen5965 3 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, I find these facts ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS.
@lomakevin
@lomakevin 3 жыл бұрын
This documentary has left me hanging, is there a part 2?
@5p3ckyf0ur3y3d833k
@5p3ckyf0ur3y3d833k 3 жыл бұрын
This IS part two of three.
@MrLASSEssein
@MrLASSEssein 3 жыл бұрын
4:40 "but in reality it was men with money who had the say" ... hm we didn´t changed that much since then
@Spacenow869
@Spacenow869 3 жыл бұрын
Good
@martinarcher1503
@martinarcher1503 2 жыл бұрын
this ended as if there was a part two, but i can't see one. It was an excellent documentary btw
@rustymalta9981
@rustymalta9981 4 жыл бұрын
nice documentary
@Badgersj
@Badgersj 3 жыл бұрын
I do hate the BBC fixation on the presenter rather than the subject, the carefully styled poses before the presenter begins speaking, the ubiquitous walk, while delivering some gem of wisdom, diagonally across the screen. They're still doing it.
@-.Germanicus.-
@-.Germanicus.- 3 жыл бұрын
Americans do this too. But we drown out the topic with loud music and pointless dramatic scenes in our documentaries.
@DrMrMonkey
@DrMrMonkey 2 жыл бұрын
@@-.Germanicus.- Spitting the Gospel over here, lmfao.
@johncopenhaver4311
@johncopenhaver4311 3 жыл бұрын
I like how the most "toxicly masculine society" ever had the most proud, strong, and competent population of woman of that era.
@electricblue8196
@electricblue8196 3 жыл бұрын
@tommy cane115 Are you living under a rock? SJW far leftists said that.
@LadyCoyKoi
@LadyCoyKoi 3 жыл бұрын
Actually they weren't really a "toxic masculine society" considering the majority of infants being tossed to the side of cliffs were mainly boys. 🤔 A truly "toxic masculine society" would praise only the boys regardless of their imperfections. I imagine Spartan men as being men in their most perfection without the modern day fear of having such proud, strong and competent population of women by their side.
@unatco1148
@unatco1148 3 жыл бұрын
Sparta was better than athens you cant change my mind
@gregoreisenhorn6601
@gregoreisenhorn6601 3 жыл бұрын
@ Sparta was a family oriented military society while athens was subject to the chaos of demagoguery
@gregoreisenhorn6601
@gregoreisenhorn6601 3 жыл бұрын
@ Athens treated women badly the senate had near absolute power
@bakedbeatslofi9016
@bakedbeatslofi9016 2 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video from Timeline! I actually recently uploaded my own summary video of the Athens vs Sparta conflict causes!
@guyjin788
@guyjin788 3 жыл бұрын
This was interesting.
@citizenduffus1370
@citizenduffus1370 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao this got me good..."take a step forward..." Apply this to life to make up for your shortcomings
@waltersmith281
@waltersmith281 3 жыл бұрын
Bettany Hughes is a masterpiece.
@Fernandoenf2
@Fernandoenf2 3 жыл бұрын
Nice documentary
@PugLifeJM
@PugLifeJM Жыл бұрын
This is the lady from the 300 movie blu ray extras. I never expected to see her anywhere else.
@TheJaeyer
@TheJaeyer 3 жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan of the different poses Hughes takes in the shots
@CannabisDreams
@CannabisDreams 3 жыл бұрын
"the Utopia the Spartans thought they created" If they felt it was a Utopia, then to them it was a Utopia. Who are you, thousands of years later and infinitely wealthier and more privileged than any Spartan ever was, to judge them?
@Toshiro_Mifune
@Toshiro_Mifune 3 жыл бұрын
they actually did. Being a spartan citizen was all the wealth and privilege you would need.
@CannabisDreams
@CannabisDreams 3 жыл бұрын
@@Toshiro_Mifune exactly it was their ideal culture
@AivisKleinbergs
@AivisKleinbergs 3 жыл бұрын
Well boys were sexualy exploited at young age and basically they were made to belief that it was utopia, if you take someone from age 7 and drill in his her brain that you live in utopia, he her will believe in that, I think now living in age of knowledge and being able to take all different cultures and their histories we can make an argument why this or that culture was barbaric or bad.
@sld1776
@sld1776 3 жыл бұрын
An Utopia based on enslaving a whole people.
@CannabisDreams
@CannabisDreams 3 жыл бұрын
@@sld1776 so a socialist Utopia
@zaberfang
@zaberfang 2 жыл бұрын
Spartans have such savage one liners.
@thesaints-7-andrew.
@thesaints-7-andrew. Жыл бұрын
Watching from Greece.hi everybody. Very interesting video.
@noelleb.9143
@noelleb.9143 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone in the comments are like "Spartans were awesome" or "Spartans were ruthless and cruel" and I'm here like "Man, Spartans must be smoking a lot of crack."
@Gandalf1232
@Gandalf1232 5 жыл бұрын
All they ever mention are the 300 Spartans who fought to the death to delay the persians. While this was indeed noble, they were hardly alone. More than 4,500 other Greeks stood and died as well. The whole point was just to buy time for Greece to mobilize, not to fight some legendary battle. And despite what Hollywood would like us to believe, leonidas wasnt even their only king. Sparta had 2 kings. So much for poor ol Cersei rallying the Spartans to revenge. More like the other king would have been like "scuuuuuuuse me, I think I'll take command of MY army now. But thanks for the pep talk!"
@noobsimdriver
@noobsimdriver 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like you didn't watch it past the recap of last episode.
@chrisgrech7992
@chrisgrech7992 9 ай бұрын
The Spartan contingent at Thermopylae wasn't formed by the 300 alone, they had about 1000k Perioeci hoplites and the helots. The later stayed with the 300 and fought to death. Therefore Spartan contingent was the largest and the rest was formed by Peloponnesian allies of Sparta and some Boeotian troops mainly Thespians and Phocians. What you are referring to as the other king of Sparta took command of the army at Platea, Wrong on all counts, It was Pausanias nephew of Leonidas and regent for his son, that commanded the Greek army. Sparta had two kings but who decided which King led the army it was decided by the Ephors.
@wwfww
@wwfww 3 жыл бұрын
This woman is splendid!
@Sacred-Heart-of-Jesus829
@Sacred-Heart-of-Jesus829 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, life back then was definitely so different.
@reverendsaltine6852
@reverendsaltine6852 4 жыл бұрын
THIS WOMAN can SCUBA, gallop a horse, dive, swim, drive a powerboat, hike, jump and who knows what else?????
@rm6330
@rm6330 4 жыл бұрын
That's ANY WOMAN given the same opportunities??????
@jigglybandito9505
@jigglybandito9505 3 жыл бұрын
RM6330 that’s any woman if they want to learn it.
@campingjason7330
@campingjason7330 6 жыл бұрын
this is before Alexander right?
@conpanidis3574
@conpanidis3574 6 жыл бұрын
Archon Katiara Blackdawn BC dates run to Zero. Alexander was after. Sparta and Athens had exhausted themselves. Allowing their take over by Alexander
@PyreOwnuge
@PyreOwnuge 6 жыл бұрын
"This was before, yes."
@renardgrise
@renardgrise 6 жыл бұрын
Aye, before Alexander's dad, King Phillip of Macedon, had conquered Greece. Phillip observed some of the later battles between Athens and Sparta (and their allies), and devised his own version of the Phalanx, called the Macedonian Phalanx, which used conscripts (instead of citizens) with lighter armor and a longer spear (the Sarissa). Phillip would use this tactic, as well as taking advantage of a Greece weakened by several decades of war, to conquer Greece. Alexander would go on to use the same formation to defeat Persia.
@MainstreamPoPsucks3
@MainstreamPoPsucks3 6 жыл бұрын
+Con Panidis Alexander was living between 356 BC and 323 BC. In ancient Greek history, Athens seems to be the leading superpower after the persia wars, then after they are defeated in the peloponnesian war, Sparta assumes the role of superpower until they are defeated by Thebes in th battle of Leuctra in 371 BC and then Thebes seems to have the hegemony until the Macedonian Kingdom under Philip II conquers Athens and Thebes and unites Greece.
@proxythinkeraccountnumberone
@proxythinkeraccountnumberone 6 жыл бұрын
in the first part of this documentary the narrator said somewhere the year 480 BC and Alexander was born mid 300 something BC, so this was a couple of centuries before Alexander, because the BC dates goes opposite and and from the first 1century AD, we count forward.
@bighoss7080
@bighoss7080 3 жыл бұрын
i just love history
@sb75able
@sb75able 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a link to the next episode? Thank you.
@SagesseNoir
@SagesseNoir 6 жыл бұрын
It's remarkable that women had more freedom in the authoritarian, militarist state of Sparta than in the democratic state of Athens. (Of course, I'm talking "free" citizens and not the thousands of slaves who lived in both city states).
@DBEdwards
@DBEdwards 5 жыл бұрын
That is to say if you consider the gross neglect and disregard for women their "freedom."
@noobsimdriver
@noobsimdriver 3 жыл бұрын
@@DBEdwards he's comparing them to Athens where they couldn't even leave their home.
@SagesseNoir
@SagesseNoir 3 жыл бұрын
@LagiNaLangAko23 Ironically, if the persians won the war women and slaves would be no worse off, and might be better off. Free male citizens might be a little worse off. Not sure. Well, yeah you'd be worse off as a helot in Sparta than as a slave in Athens....unless maybe (not sure) you were a slave in the Laurian silver mines of Athens.
@SagesseNoir
@SagesseNoir 3 жыл бұрын
@@DBEdwards "Free" women in Sparta could own property and were not sequestered like "free" women in Athens. If they weren't slaves, women were much freer in militarist Sparta than in democratic Athens. Ironic, isnt it?
@DBEdwards
@DBEdwards 3 жыл бұрын
@@SagesseNoir Sparta endorsed a homosexual lifestyle. Women were valued for their procreation, not their emotional or intellectual values. AND YOU CALL THAT FREEDOM? BAH!
@aqilfahad4842
@aqilfahad4842 2 жыл бұрын
You can hire a misthios from Kephalonia with just only a bag of drachmae .
@tec-tricks9073
@tec-tricks9073 2 жыл бұрын
great
@demo770_
@demo770_ 2 жыл бұрын
Good videos I like
@babysisdolls3336
@babysisdolls3336 4 жыл бұрын
well time to do the thigh flasher workout.
@cojaysea
@cojaysea 2 жыл бұрын
She hitched up her skirts and said perhaps you’d like to crawl back where you came from ! Damn ! That wasn’t my mom ..
@danicornea
@danicornea 3 жыл бұрын
What a useful lesson of life for the young generation today....right!?
@wewenang5167
@wewenang5167 Жыл бұрын
yeh lets have a boys lover? :P
@starlingdio6039
@starlingdio6039 3 жыл бұрын
You can feel the energy and SMELL THE SWEAT. I can feel energy, but I don't know if I can smell sweaty Spartan...bits lol.
@alstroemeria150
@alstroemeria150 3 жыл бұрын
lol my reaction
@ChrisHolman
@ChrisHolman 4 жыл бұрын
As a soldier I admire Sparta, though Sparta sounds more dystopia than Utopia.
@HChinarroRaat
@HChinarroRaat 4 жыл бұрын
Now at the coronavirus lock down a dystopia that looks more possible than ever 🤔
@ChrisHolman
@ChrisHolman 4 жыл бұрын
@@HChinarroRaat Truth
@Drewupanew1
@Drewupanew1 5 жыл бұрын
I used to be a warrior like you, until i took an arrow to the knee.
@INDIANxxWARRIOR
@INDIANxxWARRIOR 4 жыл бұрын
how many Dragons did you slay before you took a arrow to the knee?
@theodoreroosevelt6584
@theodoreroosevelt6584 4 жыл бұрын
Now you have to be one even more! Your younglings will forever compare others to you. Best wishes mate.
@marklund6
@marklund6 3 жыл бұрын
You win the comment section. Would have worked better on a video about the Norsemen/Vikings, but I'll allow it. Nice pull. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@elbat5946
@elbat5946 3 жыл бұрын
Skyrim? Gotta stop playing that game so high
@pandemicgrower4212
@pandemicgrower4212 3 жыл бұрын
@@elbat5946 is there any other way to play it?
@davidharos8867
@davidharos8867 3 жыл бұрын
14:58 strongly agreed 😜❤️
@Ston247
@Ston247 2 жыл бұрын
Self preservation usually overcomes glory or bravery. The Athenians were brilliant. They gave the Spartans *TIME to think about their miserable deaths.* Not the adrenaline rush of hand to hand combat.
@cantbanme792
@cantbanme792 2 жыл бұрын
well to be fair, sparta outlived athens.
@chrispass3035
@chrispass3035 Жыл бұрын
If you think Spartans feared death and that's why they surrendered, you're a fool. The Spartans want nothing more than to battle for glory. Dying in battle brings glory. Refusing their want for battle and refusing to kill them in battle gave only two options. Die without glory, or surrender. To Spartans, surrendering didn't diminish one's honor. They were given the chance to strike back. Of course they surrendered
@1mchartmann
@1mchartmann 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect example of why society's that take an extreme position are bound to self destruct.
@zsedcftglkjh
@zsedcftglkjh 3 жыл бұрын
After about 500 years...pretty good run and much longer than Athens.
@guillermogoytia9993
@guillermogoytia9993 5 жыл бұрын
According to N.Machiavelli, the spartan with Lycurgus (the founder ) were the first to have a kind of System with 3 powers that provided a balanced order .About 1.000 years before The actual Legislative ,Executive and Judiciary. (the latter is actually a kind of joke in our european system ).
@tiemenpost3725
@tiemenpost3725 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't everything in Europe a joke? Kudos from a european.
@SuperDirk1965
@SuperDirk1965 2 жыл бұрын
@@tiemenpost3725 Still better than the American Kleptocracy.
@waynejones1996
@waynejones1996 3 жыл бұрын
Is there supposed to be a part 2?
@jpmor7327
@jpmor7327 Жыл бұрын
I feel like we are entering the current version of Athens vs Sparta here in america.
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