I own a timeshare too, I don't mind the long meetings... But I DO mind the cost 😢

Based af

Legend

That is by far the most dad thing a dad could do, I applaud him

Not all heroes wear capes. Sounds fitting here 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

It is the land of opportunities if you are cynical and have criminal intent ^^

when you realize who make the laws, it really isn't surprising.

@@Joho1208 That's exactly why we will only stop being a hellhole if lobbying is made illegal. 😔

The force must be strong with their lobbyists

Cuz fuck them thats why

Oh that’s actually pretty clever. Would be a good way of maybe forcing a law change.

Or their favorite HOA board member.

I’ll go die and get back to you.

That would be the ONLY way to get laws to fight this

​@Apolloshot would be fun for a few, but they'll just change it to family only unless the designee signs something

My father got a free plane trip to stay in a timeshare in Florida for a weekend many years ago, but I'd really be afraid to try something like that now.

"I shot Nazis. I certainly can say no to you" is the best way to say no I've ever seen.

😂😂😂

Way to scam the scammer. Good for you.

M x😊😅😊the

I'm honestly surprised there isn't an industry of lawyers out there forming class-action lawsuits against these timeshare outfits.

@@John_Weiss there are some. There's one where I live. It boggles my mind that he's able to have a career in suing people doing scammy things. You'd think the charade would have ended by now

@@John_Weiss There actually is. Because I had three timeshares at one time in my life, I am on the call list. I get a call about every six months from an attorney who is forming one class action or another.

I love that story. Mine didn't end so well. $50,000 over ten years after Marriott blocked our abilty to use the timeshare, but then refused to take it back. As long as we paid the mortgage on the timeshare they wouldn't destroy our credit. So we ignored the annual fees and kept paying the timeshare mortgage. After $50,000 for a timeshare that we only used one day, we paid off the mortgage. And finally, with some attorney -pressure (which actually took a year and cost $5,000), Marriott said "OK, we will take it back now that you've paid for it.": We gave them the deed and finally walked away with our credit intact. I would not for a minute be surprised that they have re-sold that deed to someone else. It's hard to believe, but that I a 100% true story.

Those people belong in federal prison getting piped in the shower.

Next week, John Oliver will be covering the drug company’s ad campaign to get those addicted to opiates they sold as being safe and non-addictive by selling them new drugs to get them off the addictive drugs they sold them in the first place.

Most timeshare exit companies are full of ex-timeshare people that got people stuck in Timeshares in the first place.

Kind of like me and dad. You spend all that time praying and repenting, then we holy ghost, your ass.

Who Set up the Spots lighting the program! Its frigging irritating to watch this fabulous broadcast. Thanks Oliver

Best comment in the KZfaq comment section industry.

I wonder if there are KZfaqrs doing that sort of thing. I'd love to watch those scamming fucks get pissed off like that, video after video.

I wonder how often refusals in foreign countries get marked for future victimization by criminal elements.

Haha I did the exact same thing at Disney World. My experience was exactly the same.

I have done the same many times. I let them think that I have lots of money and I love to watch them trying to get me to sign anything. Usually in the end I tell them to put everything in writing and I will take it home and will think about it. I really judt do it for fun

it sure does!! Make a scene and they get rid of you fast. It's actually quite fun.

That sound like a fantastic day to eat a giant bowl of beans for breakfast 😂 💨

Don't forget the key that may unlock a car that would be yours after you paid the taxes on it!

20 years, I have been a time share owner. Here are some tips. 1. bring an hourglass 2. Tell them you will walk away at the allocated time. 3. Tell them that you are wasting their time because you are not buying anything 4. Prepare to walk away with nothing 5. Allow your kids to misbehave 6. If you are black, they will always give you the gifts and cut the meeting short

Using your Karen powers for good

How is that legal?!

Add that to the long list of things in this country that should be illegal but aren't.

So aren’t there any consumer protection laws in the US? A contract like that would be super illegal in Germany.

there's no way that and the perpetuity clause would be legal in a reasonable country.

@@Constantin9va I hope/feel like it probably isn't entirely legal - maybe they just call up the children and lie (as they are supposedly allowed to do) What are they going to do if the kids just ignore them and refuse to pay?

Wow IRL Viktor & Giselle lol

Nice!

Many years ago my father, a doctor, received a free round-trip plane ride and weekend stay in Florida in exchange for sitting through several hours of timeshare presentation. I would never have the courage to try that today. I never get scammed anymore, because in response to big promises of any kind I search the Web. Fraud will always turn up this way. Recently, I got a scary warning postcard about needing a Home Warranty, and discovered quickly that it was a scam. They almost always cost more than they deliver.

I salute you, cos I really don't have the patience for that sort of stunt anymore. Used to be the kind of person who'd do the same with any D2D salesman who tried to hard-sell, debate every evangelist door-knocker, stand by the shelves in the supermarket calculating the cents of savings for every item. I even sat through several MLM pitches because gullible friends of mine got hooked and I wanted to politely support them. I just can't do any of that stuff anymore. No amount of freebies or savings feel worth it.

See the thing is this assumes you a)know about all this perfectly and b) that they don't outright lie to you

That's how ppl get rich, welcome to Capitalistic America.

​@@HaruSkageyou didn't need to mention America, but yeah. As long as the point of an economy is profit not people's well being, nothing will change.

Trick question: you just listed all the kinds of economic activity

Most of the exoonony is scam The whole fiat system Were just running to pay ibterest

Probably the majority of the United States economy.

"walking away" is usually not an option. Typically they will pick you up at one location and drive you to a different location miles away, with no access to any kind of transportation, so that you're reliant on them to take you back when you're done.

@@imnotmike That's when you threaten to call the police & have them charged with kidnapping.

@@imnotmike well that's the point where i call the police or steal one of their cars. Or: Start being a nuisance by loudly shouting it's a scam, insulting the salespeople, shitting on the floor, inappropriatly flirting with salespeople and guests.

My then boyfriend and I did the same thing. We were 22-year-old tourists from Germany. We told them it was the most unreasonable thing we'd ever heard of. They gave us the Disneyland-tickets and let us go.

@@imnotmike Then they greatly underestimate my ability to walk miles with my own two legs or pick up my phone to get an Uber. That tactic may have worked 20 years ago, but not today with cellphones having built in GPS.

Was it worth it? Can't they just get the food or whatever and up and leave?

We got a free weekend in San Diego this way. It was amusing to see how the price of the timeshare kept dropping as the evening went on. They finally gave up on us - I have the world's highest sales resistance. I pretty much just laughed at the guy.

I would love to do this. I'd just bring my phone charger and play games the whole time, asking a question here and there to make it seem like I'm not a total lost cause. What are they gonna do, insult me by asking me to pay attention? There's no principal's office to send me to, lol

Ha!!! I love that!

Starts crying “I just wanted to sell you a wonderful money pit- I mean wonderful vacation spot which you can pass on for us- I mean to your kids so they can enjoy it” Basically the south park bit

did you end up using that 3 day hotel without any additional taxes or fees?

It's possible that the couple who signed up for it were paid actors to give the appearance of real demand.

Thanks for the life hack! Glad you guys got out of that situation!

You can skip hours of sales pitch by appear poor? I'll keep that in mind

I'm using this if I ever get roped into a timeshare. Wait a second....I actually am poor. No lying needed!

@@HowToChangeName It's one of those moves that seems so straightforward yet easy to forget. Like the guy who says he doesn't have any cash ono him anytime someone asks if he can spare some change

In the ‘70s my dad made us sit through sales pitches for Diamondhead to get the freebies. Fortunately there was no way my parents could afford or would fall for them, but we did get some gifts for an hour of two.

Sounds like your mom raised some amazing kids!

So the hotel let you stay for free if you sold timeshares to the guests?

I hope your mom was ok and made it through the surgery.

@@dannydaw59 No Time Share companies will book out a hotel, usually one they own, and then give away "free" vacations to people if they attend hours long time share presentations. And yes I did say presentations, some of them will get you to do multiple several hours long presentations. They basically hope to break you down cult style to sign away your financial future in order to pay for this "event".

@@dannydaw59 not free, discounted stay.

@S.G. Former god damn I’d love to have a partner like you one day. I’ve got bad social anxiety, coupled with severe people pleasing traits, it’s really hard for me to reject people trying to recruit me. At least I don’t go out much 🫠

@S.G. Former Hats off to you! What an amazing partner to have, my best wishes to you both and that these 15 years together become 30, then 45 and so on. The best to you both.

That so funny. It probably also helped the other potential victims.

A Male friend of mine asked me to go to a sales pitch, for couples only, to buy land because they were giving away a free steak dinner. We had a very swarmy Woman as our salesperson; she picked food out of her teeth, with her fake red polished nails, the whole time she was talking to us- ugh. She must have smelled blood in the water because we were in our early 20s. After she gave her pitch, I asked her if the land was developed or undeveloped. Her excited demeanor started to fade when she said undeveloped. I looked at my friend & said, expect to pay another $10-20K to get electricity & water to this land. With that, she said, oh, my colleague needs my assistance & got up & walked away. After we finished our dessert, my friend said, now what? I replied, look at her, she has her back to us because she knows we have her number, so we are done here, let's go. We got up & left, full from our free steak dinner & without any debt.

Wife has acquired 1,500 exp points! "Family Defense Upgraded" & "New Skill Aquired" - Oh Hell Naw

Haha i mean i thought everyone knew they were BS, south park had the Aspen timeshare episode literally 20 years ago, used car salesmen getting you to pay for a place you get one day At least unlike the other 90% of his videos it isn't a depressing issue that won't get fixed, and when we watch it again years later it's gotten way worse and none of the solutions he proposes have been done, and conservatives either love/support/cause it hahah

As someone with ADHD and a crazy need to google everything, this is on the money. How does this man CONSTANTLY come out with new pieces covering niche subjects that I've somehow never managed to hear anyone else delve into in depth???? His team is truly the beat at scavenging new and novel sad times lol.

This dude looks like Bill Pullman.

You know there are show writers?

​@@MrMancreatedgod Of course a whole team of dozens is necessary for this, but the team is phenomenal to churn out such consistently good work.

That's why they exist. They know exactly how to prey on vacationers. They know what we look like and they home on you like sharks on a victim. I have been a sucker to them not knowing what they were but I learned the hard way. Now I can smell them a mile away....☺

@@danyf3116 "home", not "hone". To hone means to sharpen a knife.

I've done this for a free hotel stay that is the only way it seems worth it cause we got a free 3 day stay and then said no on the way out

Depends. A lot of these are old-timers who just want to spend weeks of their lives lounging by the beach or pool; they have plenty of time to spend and (theoretically) the disposable wealth to do it regularly, hence why the idea of having a regular place to return to appeals. They can give up half a day to gain weeks more (over years) of vacation...is the selling point. Obviously they count on you being too lazy, bad at/unwilling to do math and wealthy enough that you'd think less about where your money's going, to hook you into the scam.

@@david203 Big fingers on small phone. Thanks for pointing my typo.

The problem with multiple owners of a property is disagreements may force a sale.

​@WindTurbineSyndrome If the property is owned by the LLC or whichever corporate entity used, the dissatisfied owner could not force a sale without majority support of the interest holders. If the corporate body was a "closely held LLC" then they wouldn't even be able to sell their ownership interest to a party that was not approved by the rest of the members.

What a stupid idea.

@@xv1670better than a timeshare scam

Better idea: If you live at a place others might want to visit, consider signing up with a home exchange platform and travel on home swaps. Sometimes they're a bit cumbersome to organize - but we never had trouble, weren't tied to one destination and saved a ton of money over the years.

Were i live no debt or shit like this is passed down to the kids of someone dies. Only assets.

@@ingridakerblom7577 in the case of inheritance, time shares are considered an asset. That’s why they are passed down to the heirs.

Well in that case, can I stipulate in my will that I leave them to my "favorite" politician? Somebody like de Santis, MTG or Lindsey Graham...you know, only the best people..😉

Debts cannot be passed down to heirs. If all the assets of an estate, once auctioned, aren't enough to pay for the debt of the estate then the estate dissolves along with its debt (Though debtors won't tell heirs this and may occasionally try to rake money out of them as though they did inherit the debt). However timeshares aren't legally considered a debt. They may suck money aware giving nothing in return, but they are legally considered an asset, and as such they will be automatically inherited, and the inheritor must take active action to claim no interest in the property.

That is an arguable case of motive for entrapment.

Good idea.

That's smart!!

I'd use this for every HOA agreement, every addendum in an employer contract, any salesperson calling me for anything. Cheers man!

It's genuinely the best thing to say to *anyone* that's trying to get you to sign a contract. If their reaction is anything other than calmly saying "Of course, take all the time you need," then it's a SKETCHY AF CONTRACT.

I did actually use that one, and they mocked me for needing to have a lawyer make my decision for me. Asked if I need him to help pick out my wardrobe for me, also. I still walked out, I still took my gifts. They are evil.

I couldn't agree more. When politicians go around talking about the evils of government regulation, people need to mention that government regulation is actually necessary. Especially on issues like this one, where businesses prey on average Americans. Too often, the words "government regulation" are demonized to mean against the common sense, or interests, of America, in general.

Wow. Powerful story. Good for you- congratulations on making the right choice for your soul ❤

It's not a choice everyone would've made, and you have my infinite respect for it.

ponzi scheme into a ponzi scheme thats so American

@@roxaskinghearts aw, you don't know what a Ponzi scheme is. See, Ponzi schemes use money from new investors to pay dividends to old investors. Since timeshares do not rely on promises of future earnings against initial investment, and is actually a SHITTY PRODUCT, the umbrella of "Ponzi Scheme" is a woeful misdiagnosis. Course I'm just a stupid American laborer .. right?

Apply that realtors license to a real living.

Yep. Authority impersonators are intimidating and hard to disobey

@@halcyon_echo42 Some of them are VERY deceptive. You think you are talking to a “hotel chain,” then only later do you find out it is a “time share.”

It's the story of natives. Born in plenty of space and resources, no need to work and we share, then come immigrants from far lands where not even potatoes can grow, they fight for what little there is, and move on, and then they call your cultures lazy or dumb because you're not destroying your lands in order to gain money or power to expand... sad world where evil won.

You would be surprised how easy it is to turn your average " good, normal, honest people" into scumbags. Humans gonna scum

Move to Las Vegas. After 6 months of living there, you will assume everyone is out to scam you.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that, although the Exit companies are separate entities, the Time Share companies sell contact list data to them.

They are even bigger scammers than the timeshare companies.

You are a national hero!😂

If salted the day before ...

Hahaha. Good for you!!

We got a couple vacations off of those time share scammers. My parents would go listen to those long ass presentations, and still turn them down. But those suites in Florida sure were nice!

LOL I got the same type of offer (although I can't remember if the grill was included!). I was aware of the timeshare scheme at that point (reading so many stories of people locked in long sales meetings) so when I walked in and they started, I had a kitchen timer with me. I stood up, interrupted them, held up the kitchen timer and spun it's dial, and announced loudly that they had "One Hour to Sell Me Before I Walk Out!" True to word, the timer dinged and went off, and I went to the stage and demanded my steaks - they refused, saying that they weren't finished. I slapped down the letter, said "It doesn't say anything about staying to the end - it says a 'short' presentation. I've given you an hour - I want my steaks." They gave them without another word and I walked out.

be careful, there are very patient scams as well :(

I lost my last tax refund before Covid hit this way, by a gutter salesman of all things. It only takes one time to learn the lesson we all need to learn, I just wish I didn't have to learn it the hard way.

False 😂

Agreed or you have to volunteer personal information right away

@@rasjay93 found the scammer ^

The solution is for the government to make these practices illegal.

Well, no _legal_ course of action, anyway

It should be to call a lawyer! Surely there's some kind of Legal Aid in the USA who can help people get out of these contracts or explain how to 'break' them? In Australia people who are scammed into contracts they can't afford can get free legal help to renegotiate the terms or set up a payment plan in the event that the contract was legal...people can also vote/support measures to bring in regulation and fines for companies who do this sort of behavour.

I'm currently living in the Netherlands but here these contract cannot even exist. I was told that these practices are not legal. A judge would invalidate the contract with the quickness

the solution is to not buy a timeshare

This isn't new. He's been doing this for almost 10 years.

@@InchFab And he learned form Jon Stewart who has given us many news worthy comedians over the last 20 years.

@Mr Freeman So are you claiming then that that means this show is "new"?

Newer than 60 minutes

60 minutes is busy giving air to lunatics.

My wife and I have stayed in the Florida panhandle for several years for 3 months, January to March. Four years ago family came to Orlando for a week, so we drove down and stayed with them at a Wyndham hotel. We kept getting phone calls to attend a “presentation” and receive $100-. We declined several times but finally gave in and had a one on one presentation (not in a large meeting) on the timeshare benefits. I felt sorry for the young guy giving the spiel, he couldn’t understand that a retired couple already spending 3 winter months in Florida didn’t need a timeshare. His supervisor came in to try and “close” us and she finally had to admit we were not potential customers. We got the $100- and left.

Totally unrelated, I want to like your comment but it's already got *69* and I can't ruin the balance.

Ruined the count for ya.

We attended a timeshare presentation over 10 years ago. My husband tried to be polite. Fortunately, he has a wife that doesn’t like lies. We were told that it was a great investment. By the time the presentation was over, the salesperson was livid because I told her that it wasn’t worth the money, amongst other things. The salespeople are very aggressive, if you show a small bit of interest, they will keep talking. However, when the allotted time is over, it’s time to leave.

Kind of weird you make it seem weird that your vacation is paid by your employer. I'm from Belgium and I only have vacation that is paid by my employer as that is legally obligatory. 😂

I gonna use this 😂😂😂

​@LTZ_ very likely that they were on the trip because they agreed to attend the pitch, or they are receiving a nice discount on their trip for attending.

​@LTZ_ my boyfriend and I had 3 hours to kill before we could check into our hotel. We were told the Presentation would be 2 hours and it took just that. Got a bunch of stuff that allowed us to really have a unique vacation. Worth it to me, all I had to do was sit there and say no. Honestly I'd do it again.

​@LTZ_ I got a whole bunch of free stuff going to these in the Caymans a couple of decades ago. Signed up and when they saw we were 20 something they kind of gave up. Nothing more than an hour or so. One place the guy looked at us and was like, I have an appointment and you aren't going to buy anything so here is a brochure and your free stuff. It was a great vacation. full of free food and drinks and scuba diving!

I mean... as long as the credit check comes back fine I doubt they'd say no

... and now you know why the US are a considerably richer country than Austria....

​@@uweschroeder i think you're miswritten "slimey" there

So are pyramid schemes and MLMs

You do know that Europeans buy timeshare along the Mediterranean coast including Austrians? And if you do a quick google search you'd know that you can get timeshare within Austria. It's not only an American thing although not as common here as there. I'm from the Netherlands and had Dutch clients who had a timeshare in Spain. It was such a pain in the ass getting them out of it. And even though these things are almost illegal they aren't quiet fully yet just like pyramid schemes companies. The officialbusiness model is legal and that's how they keep existing. But don't think this doesn't exist in Austria. It does and it's legal.

@@glewglew9852 legalized crime

And her character in that episode actually fell for the timeshare lol

And now she tells everyone not to be part of the cult

To be fair she was raised in that cult since a small child and she eventually got out and is warning others to not join. It was not easy having to spend her entire childhood being brainwashed.

That’s how cults work tho. You don’t know until you know

@@MountainsoftheHeart yup! I watched her show with Mike Rinder. Really great eye-opener.

haha that is awesome!!

ha! we used to do the same. they stuck me hearing the pitch at 11 watching my baby brother and sister

I think you have movie material... pitch it to Adam Sandler... I imagine the title "Summer Scamcation 1"

Hahahaha I take my son. He has autism and no chill. Once he's bored he makes it known. I would ignore him and encourage the sales rep to continue. It would always result in the presentation ending early. 😁

This didn't work for my mom. My mom brought me and honestly it seemed to piss off the sales lady and she called her a bad mother and everything in front of me and I was shocked. I was about 11..... Those meetings we're horrible.

I absolutely never buy a car until I've been walked out the door. They will just keep lowering the price again and again. Unless they've walked you out the door, they haven't given you the best price. You decide what car you want, then you turn it down, wait through all of their price changes, and after they decide they can't get you and walk you out to the exit, then if you think the last deal they offered was good enough and you want the car for that price, then you change your mind at the last minute and agree. That's the only way to buy a car from a dealership.

What part of 'encyclopedia salesmen after Google' dont you get...? Same tactics.

@@imnotmike wish this were true in the current market. 5 years ago buying a car I was able to just say no, and have the salesmen chase the sale down to the price point i wanted. Now, with many friends of mine having to look into buying cars recently the issue they've run into is: inventory is so low at dealerships that whatever vehicle you're looking at today will be gone tomorrow. They'll happily wave you out the door because someone will buy it on their terms.

@@imnotmike you haven’t tried buying a car in the last 3 years then, because your methodology doesn’t work unless your buying throw away cars anyways, like a Kia. As a car salesman during the chip shortage, if someone tries strong arming the dealer they will throw you out, nobody needs people like you

@@potter531 yep, it's become the sellers market. You never buy a car when you NEED one because it makes it hard to walk away. Now they don't care if you walk away.

Really? How important is it ? Like the planet is dying , but no timeshares that you don’t even have are more important 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Found the Time Share salesperson ^

Same!!

Real people's voices on the topic

​@@RavenWarrior definitely. He's in everyone's comments trying to more or less justify it

As European I've been to these presentations twice 15 or 20 years ago. Timeshares exist also on this continent, nobody just seems to be talking about them, though the experience is just as horrible. At least the presentations I've been to were. The second one not as bad, because I told up front that we had a terrible experience last time. But then the male rep ended up staring at my breast while he was making the pitch...

@@elainelouve Agree, but I was talking more about how people look, present themselves and general TV 'vibe'. Had same feeling when I was visiting SF few years ago. Its hard to put finger on directly but it just feels differently.

Everyday Americans don't have these. I'm hoping it's a dying industry, as older people are generally polite and will sign things to be polite, the younger generations have much less problem telling people to get f'ed. A feature and a bug.

@@craigfelter Yep. Most young people will just rent an AirBnB.

@@macccu You mean because minorities exist instead of your pristine white continent?

I don’t understand how it’s legal to force someone to inherit and be responsible for a contract they didn’t agree to If someone’s parents are in debt it’s not their kids responsibility to clear that debt

​@jaylay When a person's estate is being settled, any debts or other financial obligations are charged to the estate, they must be cleared first, then what's left goes to the heirs. A lot of people assume their debts die with them, that's not the case, and they can leave their kids with a real mess.

If your mindset and existence thinks that over $10,000 a year to go the same place in Florida every year on vacation is a good idea, you deserve all this and more.

Capitalism is the most inhumane system ever. It pits people against each other in the name of the money god. Fucking vile.

This show has been so amazing at tackling complicated subjects, exposing the flaws and even suggesting solutions, that I sometimes wish it wasn't comedy so it would be taken more seriously when shared. It should be watched by everyone, but it's hard not to have it be dismissed when half the jokes are straight up rated R.

the sales person I got told me I can simply mortgage my house to get the $30K package. That's when I told him 'how about you mortgage your house for me' and he was done with us. we almost didn't get our $200 'free gift' but I told them I did sit in for the full 2 hours.

@@geterpriffin Sounds awful, but maybe worth it for $200. Those stories about people being forced to sit through 7 hour presentations, on the other hand . . .

About 15 years ago I booked 10 nights at a resort in Tenerife which turned out to be a timeshare resort. Palm Beach Club it was called. It didn't bother me since I booked it through a normal booking website. About 3 days in and some guy knocks on the door, says he was trying to catch us and DEMANDS we attend a presentation or we'd be thrown out. I don't know why, but he assumed we were there on some free weekend promotion and he'd throw us out if we didn't attend. It got quite heated and I had to show the booking to him which he stormed off for 30 minutes to check before returning it and walking off without any kind of apology. Timeshare people are such scum and I fee sorry for the poor bastards who were stuck in this damned resort. Most of the reviews for the place these days comment on how worn and tired it's looking. Unsurprising since it's now 30 years old. Some poor saps paid for this back then and now all they have to look forward to is a run down, shabby beach resort they can never escape.

I remember my ex and I went to one for a free vacation. She signed one because her father had one. I refused to go along. The guys selling the timeshares looked like street thugs in suits,and I grew up around street thugs.

@@plab0187 You can leave. What I mean is that they offer a significant "gift" for staying through the whole presentation, which might be worth it to sit for 2 hours for $200 but definitely isn't worth it if it takes 7 hours. There are a lot of stories of people who were misled about how long the presentation would last, and ended up leaving like five hours in after wasting their time (and forfeiting the "gift"). Another example is that they will offer a discounted vacation as long as you agree to sit through this presentation. Then the presentation ends up lasting ages. You've already booked the tickets and stuff, and you maybe can't afford the trip without this stupid grifter trying to sell you a timeshare. That kind of thing. Of course, if you buy anything, they can end the presentation right away and you get on with your vacation.

Well an apt comparison would be to Islam- you can always join but never leave- but Oliver is not going to poke the bear. Punishment for apostasy is Death which is legalized under Sharia in 6 countries! Wild right?

think that's the sea org side of the cult. and at least the contract doesn't apply to your heir and you're released after a billion years. not so with timeshares.

I had one tell me I'm too stupid to know a good deal to which i replied at least i didn't end up trying to pedal time shares for a living.

@@memyself898 The guilt and manipulation they use is so real. They tried to use my SIL's disabilities as a way to pull us in.

@@BubblingBrooke it's disgusting is what it is.

My family did that too in the mid 90s. The saleswoman actually told my parents if they didn't buy a share her children would go hungry that night. I still think about that all the time.

Said every woman ever!!!😂😂😂😂

Imagine for the people who have no money for lawyers, I'm glad my parents are smart enough to say no

Imagine what people in the US could do to protect their rights. They might have guns. And despair paired with guns always ends up nicely. In this case it should.

When my father in law passed a lawyer explained to us that we were not liable for his debt,to just tell that to debt collectors as they would still try.He was correct on all counts.

@@M3dicayne Really stupid comment. At first I thought you were going to champion the citizens' rights - instead you ended it by being just another dumb gun nut.

@@M3dicayne No no no, the guns aren't there so you fight for your rights. They're for fighting each other over minor inconveniences and in treatment of depression.

Hung out in her car? Eww.

Wow, we only got like a toaster once and a stereo the other

We survived a sales pitch too but all we got were tickets to a lame Vegas magic show. Think of an unknown David Copperfield wannabe.

So the trick is to look poor. Good to know.

@@Eltrio2 Nah - just don't go is the real trick. Don't EVER go. This person got lucky but still, that was 1999 and its not like dodging a bullet, its worse. Just don't go on free/stupid vacations ever. Pay for your vacation normally and you will NEVER have to deal with this.

I hope she keeps appearing until her hair eventually fills the whole screen!

It scares me I can't tell whether or not she is John Oliver in drag.

@@Enyavar1 It's Rachel Dratch and not actually his wife.

You know, an eye doctor can probably fix that issue for you.

@@phaiz55 Thanks! I guessed as much as she wasn't his wife, but I thought _he_ might be playing her with a reaaaally outrageously good female costume+mask. Now I have a name, thanks again.

God Bless you. You should teach ethics~

sounds like the most american experience ever

After just a short 6 months you decided that stealing from people seeking help was not ethical? God bless your heart, that name should read Saint Christian.

@@charliemarquez9907 Taking advantage of others may seem tempting to a lot of people who need/want money. Seriously, I used to be a republican but left the party. Both parties are corrupted and seek to take from Americans. Look at Lauren Boebert. She was a high school dropout with a criminal record who was recruited to sell out the American people, and she took it. She was rewarded earthly millions for her soul. I pray she some day follows Christian Goodpaster's suit, repents and stops selling her soul for cash.

​@@charliemarquez9907 Hey Charlie, I guess you donate every penny you make and sleep in your car? Because like, throwing stones and all that.

Reminds me of the time I sat in a ‘Patrick Bet David’ owned pyramid Insurance Scheme “People Helping People”. I got persuaded, signed up, paid, then never returned because I researched them.

A good salesperson knows people only buy from a friend. The guys promising free portable TV's and stuff are at a completely different skill level than what you might find working in Orlando , Hawaii , or Branson. ,because a good salesperson can go anywhere and make three figures , and usually switch jobs until they do.

Scam the scammers at their own game 👍

Free loader

I used to live in Miami and one time a company offered "free tickets to Disneyland" if you sat through their pitch. I showed up, quietly listened for about 5 minutes, then went to the back of the room for my free tickets. The timeshare peeps were like "No you have to listen to the whole pitch to get the tickets." I was like "The offer didn't say anything about HOW LONG we have to sit through the pitch. If you don't give me those tickets immediately, I'm going to interrupt your guy's pitch every 45 seconds with questions. And I'm pretty good at poking holes in people's logic." They gave me the tickets and I was on my merry way, lol

So accurate. My friends and I call Last Week Tonight: "Existencial Crisis Tonight" 😅

I went to one of those at Disney. After I listened to the sales-pitch, I shocked them when I explained my reason for being there was I wanted to figure out how to put the timeshare my father had purchased from them into my name and that my mother sitting next to me was the current owner. They didn't know how to do that. Disney Vacation Club timeshares aren't that bad though. You can easily use the points (of course they want you there buying park tickets, souvenirs and food and Disney could probably make money off their resorts if they charged like $20 a night for stays). We have used all the points or banked them for the next year. There is a vibrant market for unused points there and we have been told by another couple that they have enough points for two stays but only come once a year and sell their other points for enough to almost cover the cost of their contract.

DVC is the only legit one. I get to stay two+ weeks a year at a deluxe resort (Grand Floridian, Polynesian, Animal Kingdom Lodge, etc) for $1400 in dues a year. A cash stay for that time would be like $8k. And my contract holds it’s value if I need to sell it.

@@RetrocadePodcast This is probably the most amazing comment of all, assuming it's true. I am so glad I never buy anything expensive, and that my life is simple.

Now I just want to go to these things just to save people from this and ruin their presentations

multi level marketing special was best video from oliver man

The greed of people looking for the freebie is what keeps this sales model afloat. A good sales process will always use the consumer's greed and materialism against them.

​​@@leonardyoung6821Yes but the gift only works for people who are not going just for the gift but would have never gone without it. If you go in knowing the scam and just want their free shit, unless you are really stupid, your not going to buy anything they are selling. If you come in with the one track mind of "I really want this 100 dollar gift card and nothing else" there is nothing they can do to sway you. You know all the tricks, you know the scam, why would you buy.

​@@leonardyoung6821it's not greed to be offered a prize to do smth and agree, it's the part where they make the thing torture afterwards that's the problem, it's basically entrapment Plus I'm pretty sure you just described not good business tactics but scams and mlms If someone is greedy here it's these companies not the consumer that gets screwed

Haha I love it 😂

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That's a cool story bro

I went to a timeshare meeting too in Vegas and wasted five hours all because my sister and I wanted tickets to the shark aquarium and the bodies exhibit.

beat them at their own game!

that part is strange to me. how could parents legally obligate their children to own something after they pass? so i can will my timeshare to some random stranger and they'll be burdened with the junk for the rest of their lives? what if a million people will their timeshare to one person? that person will be responsible for a million timeshares until death?

@@God.Almighty yea thats more fucked up to me then anything. the fact that they can legally hold you to a contract your parents signed when you were maybe 5 is absurd

This really scares me because my parents purchased a Hilton Grand Vacations timeshare years ago. They used to pester me to use their points, but vacation days don't exactly grow on trees for most of us.

My sister and her husband, finally got rid of their timeshare.

I wonder if you could sell it to a shell company that then completely unexpectedly goes bankrupt.

The owner was dead, what's the problem

@@blechtic I'm pretty sure that's a crime.

IMNAL, but I read it. That is how I escaped. It is a real estate transaction and all those laws apply.

One way I avoid these things is I'm just suspicious of everything too good to be true.

Same thing happened to us. We bought into a Holiday Inn vacation club located near Disneyworld and based in Orange Lake, Florida. Little did we know that you can’t rent anything for 30 days after you make the initial timeshare purchase. It’s only when you try to use it, you realize what a scam it is and now you can’t get out of it!! I wonder how many have tried the court route, suing. It seems to me this these cases involving timeshares would have led to legal change as do many are caught in this horrible web of deception. Too bad the courts can’t get involved to alter this mega scam to save us from ourselves!

Lucky 🍀 u

I would not have handed them my ring, no way. You are braver than I.

@@david203 she's not brave she's dumb ( sorry!). Who the heck would ever takeoff their engagement ring and hand it to a stranger?

​@david203 brave is an interesting word for it. It's like. Trusting.

So they go on vacation but can't stay there because of the fire and the terrible conditions? You being very clear.

Tf is this dystopia

Where are all the pending lawsuits on this one? Generational obligations are not how this country operates. Yes debts have to come out of the estate, but obligations too?!

It puts the _share_ in timeshare! But seriously, is it really that "scary" or just kinda a synecdoche of, you know, literally everything else? I mean we're consciously destroying the very planet we live on and have taken precisely 0 (meaningful) steps to mitigate this trajectory...all while simultaneously strip-mining any remaining human trust/meaning at any and every opportunity mostly just to further enrich a tiny class of insatiable demonic arcons who already have everything yet _still_ demand more. "Funny" how such insane and destructive pathologies are lauded as just and deserved when exhibited by one class, yet ridiculed and branded "hoarding" when expressed in the exploited class..."funny" that...all hail the divine right of "the market", where all possibility is strictly bound to profitability and all relationships are more and more superficial and transactional... I mean my god, this show should just be called Looking At The Symptoms Of Capitalism Weekly While Avoiding The Underlying Problem...Tonight! (tm) (r) (c) Also, if ya think that's scary, might wanna check out shit like the Kafala system or hell just the completely normalized rentier class in general (at least industrial capital has to actually produce something, a bug not a feature to the apotheosis of rent extractors in the FIRE sector - finance, insurance, real estate). There's a reason the original conception of "free market" in classical econ with folks like Adam Smith, David Ricardo, and John Stuart Mill (culminating with that craaaaaaaazy "evil" Marx guy and catalyzing the necessary advent of 'neoclassical econ' horseshit to reconfigure the assumptions and over time redefine our hegemonic episteme of eternal servitude to the capitalist class, constantly reinforced to this day via omnipresent global US empire) meant a market free of *_rent_* , as rent is by definition value extracted _without_ value produced and a clear contradiction to the justifying logic of "the market", correctly recognized as a vestige of feudal social relations (hence the term 'landlord'). _"Landlords grow rich in their sleep without working, risking or economizing. The increase in the value of land, arising as it does from the efforts of an entire community, should belong to the community and not to the individual who might hold title."_ - John Stuart "blockhead" Mill, Principles of Political Economy _"Kelp was never augmented by human industry. The landlord, however, whose estate is bounded by a kelp shore of this kind, demands a rent for it."_ - Adam "father of capitalism" Smith, ch.11, Wealth of Nations (god forbid anyone read these people and see the farce of the absurd caricatures provided to us culturally...) As some guy put it in summing up the inevitable consequence of acquiescing to the capitalist mode of production and by extension its dominant parasitic class whose interests are directly oppositional aka zero-sum to that of the working class, _"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."_ - some guy, a bit optimistic at the end we wouldn't just choose individual delusion while the planet literally burns around us... To echo Rosa Luxemburg from 1918 Germany, before of course being executed by the freikorps paramilitary (later becoming the SS, shocker) at the behest of Ebert's ostensibly _social democratic_ SPD party, almost immediately resonating the truth of such a succinct political dichotomy to this day: *_socialism or_* [continued] *_barbarism._* _"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."_

Ah, America: where we create literal generational curses!

@@sarysa The fact that people buy timeshares at all is crazy, but my guess is that the same punters who buy this crap in the first place are the same ones who allow the contractual debt to attach to their heirs 'inheritance'.

That only works for them because they can afford to tank their credit but a normal person starting out would not be able to buy a car or house or take out a loan with that hanging over them. Glad they were able to get out of it though.

@@Tibbles11 excellent point. They also have five adult children who are willing to do a lot to help them. The "get a lawyer" still stands though. You'll probably spend less on the lawyer than you do on the timeshare, and it's nice to have someone who actually knows what they're talking about in your corner so their manipulative tactics aren't as effective.

Timeshare companies SEIZE YOUR HOME???

​@@PikaPetey I guess they take the debt to a debt collection agency

Wow, think of the fabulous vacations all over the world they could have taken for 3 million dollars.

TY. This is what I dont understand. are these folks being held hostage in a room with a gun to their head? Why not just leave? It's similar to online romance scammers, at some point you just say "no more money" and just stop. Im not sure what Im missing. Im 50 and have never gone to these.

@@lauraanne5175 the real problem is after you sign the contract, most people DO leave. not everyone does.

@@lauraanne5175 There is a desire to somehow come away from an attempt to cheat you with more than you went in with. So much scammery happens today from telemarketer calls to email scam attempts where you cant get back at the instigators but in that cheap hotel meeting room you can face your enemy, stare them down and take what they offered you

@@cageybee7221 why would you sign? That's what I dont get. It's like going to buy a car and then complaining you rode off on a bicycle. Just don't get it. I am not trying to be cold, but I truly do not understand this mentality

@@lauraanne5175 manipulation, lying, harassment, etc. alot of the victims are either tricked or harassed into signing. the vast majority of people do what you say to, but sheer probability and relentlessness means the salesman eventually gets someone.

They should show that the world is dying stupid .

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In an ideal world, they would. But in reality, airlines, vacation destinations, and organizations such as these probably work together so that they can all profit. if a timeshare gets sold, than an airline stands to profit from those extra seats sold on their planes. :/

Some stories I just don't go into anymore because the associates will ask if I need any assistance and if I ask them one single question and then don't buy anything they look at me like I'm taking food out of their children's mouths, 😅 just because I came in and looked at a car and asked about the engine for 5 minutes doesn't mean I have to buy it,

major win

Agree! loved seeing her she is great

OMG Prairie Dawn 🤣

😂

More like Betty Lou

TayTay

​@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist9go away, you psychotic Bible thumping troll. Stop copy/pasting this everywhere.

@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ You sound just like the timeshare people

Years ago my former coworker's friend went along with their cousin to an appointment to go somewhere to have a meeting (or whatever they call it) where they try to sell people timeshare. I guess the salesman who was trying sell her cousin the timeshare was so eager to get her to buy the timeshare from him that he offered to pick her up to take her to the meeting. Her cousin accepted his offer and he picked them up and took them to the meeting. My coworker told me that her friend told her that her cousin turned down buying the timeshare--but then when it was time for the salesman to take them back he was so angry that she didn't by the timeshare and he was carrying on about it and he wouldn't let them out of his car. To this day I don't understand why they did not call the police and press charges because what he did was actually kidnapping!

@Great gowns, that sounds more like a horror movie story, perhaps your cousin should have pressed charges.

We went in with that mentality and they ended up keeping us for 5 hours. In the end we caved as we had a two year old with us and they basically used her against us. They just let her wander around the place when they were supposed to watch her. We were all too tired to fight it anymore. Timeshare exit was every bit as bad too. They had us pay up front and then just had us default on the loans. That hurt even more when the government called that income and taxed us. There's a reason the government doesn't do anything either.

Yeah, the reps are part of the victim pool, that's why they sound so convincing. It's just like Multi Level Marketing scams. It's practically a cult.

Bro just stand up and get your child, don't be sfupid

​@@irfukennyno judgement, but why wouldn't you leave rather than sign up if you knew it wasn't a good idea?

​​@@irfukennyI mean the reason the government doesn't do anything is lobbying and the fact that like a little less than half of the us thinks allowing this kind of shit is some kind of moral imperative because god forbid the regulatory bodies GASP pass regulations Conservatives and libertarians be wild

It makes sense for people willing to defraud others to pile the frauds on, as many as possible.

A good decision but why did you break your word? You said you would call him back but you never does, are you so weak-willed that you thought if you talked on the phone with him he would talk you back into buying? How hard would it have been to spend 60 seconds on the phone saying " I've decided not to do business with your company", so you could still be a man of your word? No offense...

@@onamattapeeya None taken. I'm not the same person I was back then, but honestly, i don't recall if it was procrastination, avoidance, or just plain forgetting about it.

@@balanceseeker yeah it's not like I didn't do some stupid things, I once put a $100 non-refundable deposit down on a Charvel and then got fired from my job two days later

@@onamattapeeya “break your word?” Are you for real dude? These salespeople have 0 morality. No one owes them a damn thing. And I guarantee the salesman never thought again about the OP. How old are you? 13?

@@onamattapeeya Wow, what an honorable man. Out of $100 and a job.

Is this right here is why I’m not too worried about this issue. It’s an issue for people who have their own lawyers. It’s a rich people thing let ‘em all pay an occasional idiot tax

When my father in law passed we were told by a lawyer that we were not liable for his debt, and to explain that to debt collectors. He said that they would still try.He was correct on all counts We paid nothing.

@@davidguelette7036 its insane that they are allowed to try though. It's on par with those scam-call centers in india, stealing money from the elderly. Afterwards saying "they did not HAVE to pay us, we just asked", does not make it right.

How much was the "good legal council"? Is that something that your average joe and jane can afford?

Good for you! The best advice John could've gave was lawyer up!

The comment I was looking for!

A lot of the old cracked Crew have their own podcasts and shows. E.g. Some More news who basically cover topics 1-2 weeks before Last Week tonight does in a similar way. Behind the bastards who has a host who worked on Cracked and has regularly guests from cracked, including execs. And the gamefully unemploymed network. Cracked is not dead, just split up.

You might want to check out the Quick Questions podcast as well

@@1IGG don't forget that Adam Tod Brown still has his Unpops Network going strong long after his split from Cracked. I did see recently Cracked is trying to revive it's youtube channel by enlisting some tiktokers (I follow Stanley Siever for his hardcore scene skits and was surprised by his Cracked debut reviewing Ant-Man 3)

@a s no it’s the best podcast around (ok after the dollop of course)