NJAC Debate with Arnab Goswami | Legislature Vs Judiciary | Arun Jaitley Vs Justice R M Lodha - Full

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On the backdrop of Supreme Courts decision on National Judicial Appointments Commission (NJAC), for the first time on Indian television, TIMES NOW brings you the biggest face between a union minister and a former Chief Justice of India. In the biggest debate of 2015, Union Minister Arun Jaitley is set to take on Former Chief Justice RM Lodha to put to rest the matter of greater authority between the legislature and judiciary. The two are joined by Soli Sorabjee, Former Attorney-General of India and Rajeev Dhavan, Sr. Advocate, Supreme Court in The National Debate with Arnab Goswami.
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@Team_rocket1144
@Team_rocket1144 3 жыл бұрын
Even after Rajeev Dhawan's constant personal attacks and bias on Arun Jaitley . Jaitley didn't respond with such indecency , what a remarkable man he was , really missing him !!❤️
@Laxmikantji
@Laxmikantji Жыл бұрын
Rajeev Dhavan is trying his best to slander to compensate the crudity of arguments
@sam12345393
@sam12345393 4 жыл бұрын
Arun Jaitley was one of the most influential and smartest politicians in Indian history. Miss his powerful articulate speeches filled with intellectual arguments and logic. May he rest in peace. Om Shanti!
@biswajeet9826
@biswajeet9826 3 жыл бұрын
Really he brought electoral bonds too.
@shankerpai4617
@shankerpai4617 Жыл бұрын
Sardar Arun Jetley... Unification of India through GST...( sardar vallabhai patel... Unification of princely states... Sardar Narendra Modi... unification through Ram. Mandir )
@7236kal
@7236kal 8 жыл бұрын
One of the best debates, I have ever , watched in TimesNow in the recent past.
@pratikthakare2733
@pratikthakare2733 3 жыл бұрын
"Institution in a democracy have to be protected from an elected but you will end up creating tyranny of unelected" what a line of Arun Jaitley
@AdarshSingh-pk7ws
@AdarshSingh-pk7ws 3 жыл бұрын
Indira Gandhi was also an elected !
@alice_in_wonderland42
@alice_in_wonderland42 3 жыл бұрын
@@AdarshSingh-pk7ws yeah, and she created tyranny exactly as said.
@Phoenix-King-ozai
@Phoenix-King-ozai Жыл бұрын
@@AdarshSingh-pk7wsand the SC court utterly failed to control her when they were actually needed Further proof that courts are no better
@AdarshSingh-pk7ws
@AdarshSingh-pk7ws Жыл бұрын
@@Phoenix-King-ozai exactly that's why supreme court decided to change the older system by new system (collegium).
@AshishKumar-fr1eo
@AshishKumar-fr1eo Жыл бұрын
@@AdarshSingh-pk7ws and what is collegium if ur father, uncle, grandfather are judges you will be a judge
@anuraganand3874
@anuraganand3874 3 жыл бұрын
This was the time When Arnab's voice didn't use to hurt our ears ❤️
@abhishektoshniwal7631
@abhishektoshniwal7631 4 жыл бұрын
When Arnab used to be a journalist. And mind you, a good one.
@amitchaudhary3207
@amitchaudhary3207 4 жыл бұрын
Arun Jaitley was one of best intellectual in Indian politics... salute you sir..rip
@mustafahasan2096
@mustafahasan2096 Жыл бұрын
I watched it 6 years back and iam watching it again and if there is anything that compelled me to do so again is the exceptional articulation of thoughts on the subject by Mr Jaitley (i miss you Sir) and an unconventional display of rowdy sophestication by Mr Dhawan while expressing his thoughts.
@akhandpratapdwivedi7210
@akhandpratapdwivedi7210 2 жыл бұрын
Debate like this should be happening again and again. Arun jaitley sir was outstanding.. Missing you sir 😭😭🙏
@awanishsingh3459
@awanishsingh3459 6 жыл бұрын
Arun Jaitley put his arguments very powerfully, I personally have not got d answers from d opposite side for his questions about:- 1. How is it legimate to uphold one basic structure by destroying several other basic structures? 2. How in d name of protecting institutions(not judiciary) from elected representatives is not d tyranny of unelected? 3. Why d interpretation of article 141 becomes completely opposite to what it says? 4. Why no other country in d world adopted d method of judges exclusively appointing judges?
@mohanudiavar
@mohanudiavar 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great debate. Mr Rajeev Dhawan should tell the Nation what the Judiciary did when Mrs Gandhi imposed Emergency, never done in a democratic setup
@arunkumarmishra9111
@arunkumarmishra9111 8 жыл бұрын
this kind of national debate strenths our democracy,thanks for arnab goswami for organizing a beautiful debate..hope our top brass politician could do such kind of debates with themself.
@AlphaIshu
@AlphaIshu 8 жыл бұрын
+Arun kumar Mishra This was a debate between intellectuals,our politicians are rowdies.Imagine the likes of Lalu Prasad,Rahul gandhi,Sakshi Maharaj and others debating under one roof.It would be a wild zoo.
@arunkumarmishra9111
@arunkumarmishra9111 8 жыл бұрын
+Achintya Srivastava that's why i said top politicians like narendra modi, arvind kejriwal etc.
@AlphaIshu
@AlphaIshu 8 жыл бұрын
Arun kumar Mishra Kejriwal? I doubt that. He has refused any confrontation with the media
@arunkumarmishra9111
@arunkumarmishra9111 8 жыл бұрын
+Achintya Srivastava i think if there will be any national debate he will defenetly join.but in our mug slinging politics i have dought that debate will ever happen.
@AlphaIshu
@AlphaIshu 8 жыл бұрын
Arun kumar Mishra Debates can happen but will it really be a debate or a mere name calling devoid of facts and full of propaganda and fiction.
@prabhendu
@prabhendu 8 жыл бұрын
nice debate...Justice Lodha and Arun Jaitely put their points in a sane and ethical manner...really like the courtesy they granted to each other ...i only object with the condescending and patronizing nature of the "other" guy beside Justice Lodha..on every occasion in which the guy was put into backfoot, he resorted to pure personal and condescending comments...
@hkollar1
@hkollar1 8 жыл бұрын
+Prabhendu Pandey That guy is Rajeev Dhawan, Highly educated, well meaning, But a pompous, Self righteous prick. He uses brutish language, and roguish approach most of his arguments and debates. I still remember how he made a Supreme Court judge recuse himself in Radia Tapes case. His arguments here were solid from a libertarian point of view (which sees state as evil), but very weak when it comes to addressing "Who will judge judges".
@BobbyChauhan-drifter
@BobbyChauhan-drifter 8 жыл бұрын
+hkollar1 sach baat buri hi lga karti hai bhai !
@themanof
@themanof 8 жыл бұрын
thats the way the truth should be spoken, not like a fairytale, he is a upright man, no pleaser like u.
@prabhendu
@prabhendu 8 жыл бұрын
First think U ppl to make my point again..look at your last phrase..and comment made by Kuwar. Abhai Singh Chauhan ...both are similar comments except for your last phrase...this presumption is what I am talking about... the person sitting next to Dhawan was Chief Justice of India..he was also against Jaitely but never in the debate he went personal...
@satyar9857
@satyar9857 8 жыл бұрын
At first I thought it was Lalu Yadav sitting next to justice Lodha, based on what he was saying, and how he was making ad-hominem attacks on Jaitley. Later, I became convinced that he was indeed a Lalu Yadav-clone, if not the man himself!
@pranabkalita3439
@pranabkalita3439 4 жыл бұрын
India misses you Mr Jaitley....you were (are) just awesome!!!
@nishatiwari1935
@nishatiwari1935 7 жыл бұрын
amazing debate. great luminaries arguing against each other. never saw such a debate earlier. thanks to Arnab
@uwubhogowan
@uwubhogowan 3 жыл бұрын
Just imagine Jaitley, Jethmalani on one side. 😂
@upschimanshu3613
@upschimanshu3613 2 жыл бұрын
Wo aag lga deta
@awanishsingh3459
@awanishsingh3459 2 жыл бұрын
Jaitley ji himself was enough. Opponents were clueless about d questions raised by Jaitley ji. Further, jaitley ji is a much powerful debater than jethmalani ji. Presence of Jethmalani ji would be like another " Rajeev Dhawan" to this academic session (bcz both of them get arrogant when cornered on a academic point).
@hritik25m19
@hritik25m19 2 жыл бұрын
@@awanishsingh3459 Rajiv Dhawan's points are strong
@therahulnagor2567
@therahulnagor2567 2 жыл бұрын
@@hritik25m19 only from the activist pov, who thinks that "state is always evil"but when he is countered that "then who will judge the judges " his all arguments sounds rubbish
@mehrajkajal9305
@mehrajkajal9305 2 жыл бұрын
I am a legend watching it after 7 year's.
@nakulgote
@nakulgote 8 жыл бұрын
1:31:34 "Mr. Dasgupta, suck your own lollipop" - Rajeev Dhavan, 2015
@ptajnekar1
@ptajnekar1 8 жыл бұрын
Justice Lodha and Rajeev Dhawan is unfortunately on the wrong side of the argument.. There is no way collegium system could be defended.
@PrashantRawat
@PrashantRawat 8 жыл бұрын
he is not defending it .. they agreed that the lack of transparency and a body to look upon the procedure is the issue .. those are the things that have made collegium system disputed ...
@cctv2938
@cctv2938 3 жыл бұрын
But we can never let the executive regulate the appointment of judicial functionaries. Politicians, wherever they go, they corrupt it.
@Masiba7517
@Masiba7517 3 жыл бұрын
Are you a law grad?
@ritilraj7484
@ritilraj7484 3 жыл бұрын
Soli sorabjee - what am I doing here?
@therahulnagor2567
@therahulnagor2567 2 жыл бұрын
Dhawan and Jaitely were in Attacking mode and ready to interrupt when they think so to do, Lodha got chances again and again without interrupting bcs he was CJI where as Sorabjee was not a CJi nor had capacity to interrupt in between loudly
@aloosamosa4u
@aloosamosa4u 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting debate. If Supreme court can interpret the constitution the way they want as quoted by Dhawan. Sir then please struck down the reservations as no where in the constitution it was mentioned to run this scheme for indefinite time period. And please bring the One Nation One Law as this is the fundamental right of every citizen of this country and well within the constitutional rights. If you can interpret the law as you wish(like you did with NJAC) so as to suite you better, then why can't you impose the constitutional rights of Equality of all citizens of this country.
@rameshgarg5135
@rameshgarg5135 8 жыл бұрын
Reservation was implemented at the time of independence to ensure that people of backward classes would be given some extra benefits so that they can be at par with higher castes at that time and it was proposed that reservation status should be checked after every ten years depending on the needs of the country. But due to their own greeds no political party actually tries to modify or update it according to present day requirements. Also it was due to Supreme Court order according to which reservation was fixed at max of 50 % but now Rajasthan govt proposed to increase that to 54%
@satyar9857
@satyar9857 8 жыл бұрын
+Aloo Samosa Aha! But the SC will not do that! They will continue with everything that will make them score brownie points with the aam janta!
@satyar9857
@satyar9857 8 жыл бұрын
+Ramesh Garg If these judges have the balls to cut down NJAC, why not reservations? Why push it on political parties to remove reservations? Where is their boldness, their courage to do the right thing in this case, and remove reservations totally? If at all they want reservations in perpetuity, base it on economic need, not some obsolete "caste/SC/OBC/.." status where in ppl Babu Jagjivan Rams and his daughter abuse reservations despite being filthy rich. There are poor in all "castes/classes" that need help. Why starve poor "upper" caste/class?
@rameshgarg5135
@rameshgarg5135 8 жыл бұрын
Satyaji my main point is that there is no problem in transparency in judiciary and executionary as well and this can be easily ensured by bringing both completely under RTI. But my main worry is that no political party in India acc to me has the credibility to ensure that if judges are appointed by executive then they will remain honest in their working. It can create even make matters worse if people lose the right to protest against the government whosoever remains in power. And regarding the reservation issue if judges start taking all decisions themselves than what is the point of executives. So the best thing is that transparency is ensured in such a way that political parties are kept out so that independence of judiciary remains unless there are some major reforms to ensure complete transparency is bought about among political parties themselves.
@subham20101
@subham20101 8 жыл бұрын
Those people who are against reservation policy, they must understand Indian social structure, evils of caste system, hierarchy and inequality exist in Indian society. Reservation just ensure participation. if you don't want that deprived section should stand with or equal to you then people try to reinstigate casteist notion.
@shivvyas8835
@shivvyas8835 4 жыл бұрын
Arun Jaitley is right and R M Lodha is right on some points. Rajeev Dhawan is a pure idiot not making points. The system has to be transparent and you can't just aside legislative member.
@veereshnitw
@veereshnitw 8 жыл бұрын
how I wish Mr Jethmalani was invited
@InfraTechUpdates
@InfraTechUpdates 3 жыл бұрын
DUDE THAT'S SO ON POINT!! JUST WISHED THAT JETH MALANI WOULD HAVE WARMED ONE OF THOSE SEATS ON THE DIAS
@dineshpandit5028
@dineshpandit5028 4 жыл бұрын
jaitely dominated the debate like a rockstar
@jlow846
@jlow846 8 жыл бұрын
Nice to see such debates are taking place in India.Some digression from subject still worthy of listening.And such dignitaries coming together for debate shows a bright future of Indian Democracy.The point of NJAC still remains unsolved and unclear.
@HarshGupta94
@HarshGupta94 8 жыл бұрын
It was really a worthy debate, worth time spending. It was fruitful. Debate like this should be often conducted to make the issues related to politics, economics, and others comprehendible to general public as they superficially know these topics. I would also like to say that there is big problem with a few judicial, political people, they start rebuking the person who doesn't have the knowledge of their sphere, instead they should politely address the query or the issue to the one who is mere a tyro other than lashing out at one.
@ashwaniraj2765
@ashwaniraj2765 4 жыл бұрын
Rajiv dhawan is one of the most unmannered senior lawyers I have ever seen .
@Phoenix-King-ozai
@Phoenix-King-ozai 7 ай бұрын
He's a crook
@mukuljohn6248
@mukuljohn6248 8 жыл бұрын
very knowledgable and informative....
@Rahul-ki8ps
@Rahul-ki8ps 8 жыл бұрын
Finally something on Times Now which I can bear.
@wondersandy
@wondersandy 8 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one to observe that the intentions of Mr. Jaitley looks cunning?
@kanji5635
@kanji5635 8 жыл бұрын
+sandip darji . i second that
@unkalpaddy481
@unkalpaddy481 8 жыл бұрын
Nope, u r not alone. There are other retards too.
@xandra4529
@xandra4529 8 жыл бұрын
"Mr. Das gupta,suck your own lollipop" .This was hillarious.
@anuragsriram2782
@anuragsriram2782 8 жыл бұрын
Jaitley rightly pointed out that Judges are looking at exclusivity of judiciary rather then primacy. It is important to have checks and balances. Isnt it necessary for law minister to be a part of the NJAC. If it was politicizing the appointments why even have such a position (Law - Minister) in the cabinet... Gymkhana membership was the perfect description of Indian judicial System currently. The doctrine of having safegaurds for basic structure is not mentioned in the constitution why the debate?????
@moviepipe
@moviepipe 3 жыл бұрын
Did I hear this joker say 'the greatest power in the constitution is vested in the judiciary'? The judiciary with 3 lakh core pending appointments whose judges to date go on 3 month summer vacations on full pay? 😅
@abhijitj1673
@abhijitj1673 8 жыл бұрын
one of the best debate ever had......such debates will help to strengthen our democracy....thanks and congratulate to mr goswami for this initiative....it will really help common people to understand such complex issues with more clarity...
@GautamSangwan1
@GautamSangwan1 8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful !!
@rishikesarwani7804
@rishikesarwani7804 8 жыл бұрын
what a debate ...beautiful ...responsible old man ...wonderfull ..!!!
@brijinderpathania9040
@brijinderpathania9040 8 жыл бұрын
wonderful...thanks to arnab for this
@sirajalam1521
@sirajalam1521 8 жыл бұрын
one of the best debate i have ever seen.
@himanshuzaveri4732
@himanshuzaveri4732 8 жыл бұрын
Mr. Rajiv was very crude & rude, But while I tried to understand his point He was the only person true to the point. Hats off to Mr. Rajiv. All others were very right politically. This debate should remain in the archives of Arnab.
@nandabhavantemple5386
@nandabhavantemple5386 8 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this debate as it occurred in a debatable environment.There must a system to appoint judges.judges. Lakhs of cases are pending.Judges even if their verdicts are challenged in upper courts go unpunished.A judge must be upright,just,reasonable and rational & impartial.He must be honest & sincere and looking to be so in heart & spirit.But if not so there must be some provision for the same.We cannot expect good judiciary from bad legislature
@chottai
@chottai 8 жыл бұрын
After a long time, an enjoyable debate by Times Now. I hope they take this model forward and understand that what they are doing presently in the Newshour debates is a classic case of "too many cooks spoil the broth"
@satyar9857
@satyar9857 8 жыл бұрын
Dhawan wants us to to trust them because he believes they are "good"!! Simply ludicruous. So whatever they do, no one should question them?
@rameshgarg5135
@rameshgarg5135 8 жыл бұрын
Well said and I also agree that though there are some shortcomings in judiciary which needs to be corrected keeping political parties and executives out of frame to ensure independence of judiciary and the best initial way to overcome this initially may be by implementing RTI for both political parties and judiciary as proposed by Arnab although in a casual way.I also don't feel comparing other countries judiciaries with India is right as the political system in our country is quite different and diverse and ensuring control of executive over appointment of judges could further prevent fair justice especially involving against ruling government whomsoever it may be.
@mustafahasan2096
@mustafahasan2096 Жыл бұрын
I watched it 6 years back and iam watching it again and if there is anything that compelled me to do so again is the sheer articulation of thoughts on the subject by Mr Jaitley (i miss you Sir) and an unconventional display of rowdy sophestication by Mr Dhawan while expressing his thoughts.
@muraliduraiswamy5928
@muraliduraiswamy5928 8 жыл бұрын
Good beginning. the debate is good and useful
@akhileshkumar-wv7lp
@akhileshkumar-wv7lp 8 жыл бұрын
an awesome debate,makes so much of sense.
@sudhishsudhir1816
@sudhishsudhir1816 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent debate as always.
@blitzgolu123
@blitzgolu123 8 жыл бұрын
i know the content of the debate is top notch, but please provide atleast 720p resolution
@thevagabond85yt
@thevagabond85yt 8 жыл бұрын
+siddhant ingole agree. but one has to note the length of video. its 2hr video. they should have uploaded it in parts.
@TheYTListener
@TheYTListener 8 жыл бұрын
+siddhant ingole why do you want to see arnab and other people in HD. What purpose will it solve.
@pratikchirania
@pratikchirania 8 жыл бұрын
+tHe_VaGaBonD You do not need to upload such videos in parts. You can have 2+ hour videos in 4K uploaded in KZfaq.
@thevagabond85yt
@thevagabond85yt 8 жыл бұрын
Pratik Chirania of course. But uploading takes time particularly when you don't have OFC.
@pratikchirania
@pratikchirania 8 жыл бұрын
They are Times Now :) doubt they have bandwidth issues. I agree that people like us would find it hard at homes. I believe you meant optical fibre channel by OFC.
@HarshDudhe
@HarshDudhe 6 жыл бұрын
This was too good :)
@darshanraval1344
@darshanraval1344 2 жыл бұрын
What a great, intellectual discussion was going on until Rajeev opened.
@updatetodayajlbyshripaul2301
@updatetodayajlbyshripaul2301 3 жыл бұрын
nice
@ranjeetchoice
@ranjeetchoice 8 жыл бұрын
@Arun jailtly..would you make political party under RTI.
@manas477
@manas477 8 жыл бұрын
Well done Rajiv Dhawan sir, Atleast somebody like you put across the nation concerns so strongly. Salute to you sir!!
@adityajain6700
@adityajain6700 8 жыл бұрын
+Manas Tiwari he was not answering question just making personal comments , debates doesn't work like that..
@manas477
@manas477 8 жыл бұрын
+Aditya Jain I agree that he did some personal comments which could be avoided however I personally feel executives should not be part of the selection process. Judiciary plays important role unbiasedly when things go wrong in the system. I agree that current selection process is opaque which could be improved to make it better. The Supreme court has given remarkable judgements where some of them goes against ruling government. It would never be easy for an individual if he gets favor from any political part. I would in favor to improve the current selection process which brings more transparency instead of completely restructuring it.
@ravikumart7046
@ravikumart7046 8 жыл бұрын
What yaar. ..u r giving complement to the who spoiled debate environment by making personal comments and talked in rubbish manner. .He is not the right person to that stage. .
@manas477
@manas477 8 жыл бұрын
+Ravikumar T Dude I complemented him for bringing common man concern in public forum as there are many people who do not aware of importance of that remarkable judgement which he was supporting in the debate however I already agreed in my previous remark that personal comments should have been avoided.
@AbdulRehman-qg3rt
@AbdulRehman-qg3rt 8 жыл бұрын
Arnab Goswami if you ever read this...I really was getting pissed off at you with your daily ranting at 9 even though your views were fine...But this debate changed it all and along with me I believe many others also feel that you can carryout many more civilised debates such as this and sincerely request you to carry this format and mannerism into your daily debates...
@kartikeyagupta2
@kartikeyagupta2 8 жыл бұрын
+Abdul Rehman so true
@arindamkumar7725
@arindamkumar7725 3 жыл бұрын
This is what is truly called 'CLASH OF TITANS'
@beersinghrajput430
@beersinghrajput430 5 жыл бұрын
Tremendous debate , I hope executive and judiciary must understand the seperation of power ,,eminence lodha Ji you are the symbol of justice ,,excellent jaitely but you should not use the word like tyranny of unelected for s court .
@utkarshunplugged8245
@utkarshunplugged8245 6 жыл бұрын
very beneficial debate
@mohitkumarsingh5786
@mohitkumarsingh5786 8 жыл бұрын
That was really a superb debate,I noticed judiciary on backfoot on some stages like claiming to have a capable working institution, I don't no on what basis may be only considering the working of supreme Court and high courts. In practical world the lower courts are running too late for trials and still got a huge cases pending,the cases dealing with the problems of common people. Now when the people are promised by offerings of speedy trials and transparency of the system by the government side then the supreme court should must let government help them for the betterment of the system as a promise made to the people and under article 74 and 75 they got a provision for that. This debate should be avoided to be called as judiciary vs executive. Let it be for a betterment of constitution with coming time.
@AlphaIshu
@AlphaIshu 8 жыл бұрын
+Mohit kumar singh I agree no organization can function unilaterally.
@mukundannair4349
@mukundannair4349 5 жыл бұрын
Very specific and clear submission by Mr. Arun jately
@neelambagade5088
@neelambagade5088 3 жыл бұрын
Bright and times needed changes in judiciary .
@tejastorawane8349
@tejastorawane8349 4 жыл бұрын
In such academic debates..one might inclined to one by the superficiality of the views/debator/ideology...but in this whole debate..Mr.jaitley was more clear, articulate,firm and convincing and rational than the others.. Contradictory panelists were just played the role of opposition instead of putting forward their own view..poor argument,vague and very unconvincing rebuttal by rajiv and justice lodha
@srinivasnaraen
@srinivasnaraen 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Arnab . This is something new in our Indian Media where top hats from their respective institutions come and debate their thoughts on a open forum. First of all i congratulate you and times now. Also I wish you to have a same kind of national debate with the top political class of the country right from our Prime Minister & Rahul gandhi on one stage along with you and your appointed jury. Please send letters to Rahul and PM weather they are ready to debate on issues on one stage.
@bvbcet1234
@bvbcet1234 8 жыл бұрын
+Srinivas Krishnan Inviting Rahul for such debate would be a comedy show. Let the intellectuals within the party be selected for the debate to showcase their own as well as party's viewpoints.
@ayushmishra5913
@ayushmishra5913 2 жыл бұрын
Why these kind of discussion is missing today.
@chaithanya4384
@chaithanya4384 7 ай бұрын
7:42 is when debate starts
@cpatil-vh5bw
@cpatil-vh5bw 4 жыл бұрын
Collegium system totally crumbled in India... After coalition politics.
@mrbhavan1986
@mrbhavan1986 8 жыл бұрын
Rajiv Dhawan was making good points, if we ignore his insulting comments on one of the moderators.I have more faith in judiciary than the legislative. Because it is the judiciary which has been protecting the Constitution. Of course, we must see more transparency and accountability with the Collegium.
@VPO2024
@VPO2024 5 жыл бұрын
Legislative is transparent . everything is done in the house. But what about transparency of judiciary . Judiciary is excersing power without any accountability .we can throw politician after five year if they don't deliver what about judiciary how can we held accountable to judiciary.
@therahulnagor2567
@therahulnagor2567 2 жыл бұрын
U trust judiciary more than legislature bcs Judiciary creates environment of elite ness around themselves, they make u feel that they're superior then u all including legislature in understanding the law and specially constitution and fall for it bcs Judges are not selected from u they're made fron a club of advocates, whereas legislature can be one of u not necessarily from elite club, and we generally think that someone coming from us is not more sound in logic when something comes up we generally have zero or limited knowledge
@AjayVakil-go1jf
@AjayVakil-go1jf 6 ай бұрын
Arun Jaitelyji India will miss your intellect and how arguments are being made and won on cogent logic and how to be precise and to the point. May your soul rest in peace🙏🙏
@rajputbhati4192
@rajputbhati4192 8 жыл бұрын
awesome debate
@shakirtsopoe4917
@shakirtsopoe4917 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting debate Judiciary versus executive....Justice Lodha was awesome especially his coolness..Arun Jaitley superb debator...So funny to see DasGupta constantly attacking Justice Dawhan.
@shakirtsopoe4917
@shakirtsopoe4917 7 жыл бұрын
How one sided DasGupta or what so ever DasGupta you may be,you are not fit to be a panelist...Don't be so biased.
@Lalith921
@Lalith921 8 жыл бұрын
basic Logic of lodha and dhawan was great and have great meaning in the context of constitution interpretation
@rushi_dhawale
@rushi_dhawale Жыл бұрын
Still worth Debate to watch in 2023!
@suryabhanyadav4985
@suryabhanyadav4985 8 жыл бұрын
I HUMBLY REQUEST TO ARNAB SIR AND OTHER EXPERTS TO CONDUCT AS MUCH DEBATE TOO STRENGTHEN AND MATURE THEIR OWN WAY OF THINKING OF THE OTHER WATCHING YOUTHS OF THE NATION.PLEASE SIR
@sushil6464
@sushil6464 8 жыл бұрын
An educative and interesting debate. The point put across by the participants was straight and forthright. The case of former CJI appeared to be on a week and unreasonable grounds to some extent. Mr Rajeev Dhavan appeared to be arrogant and behaved like an educated/ intelligent Goon with a lot of sarcasm towards his opponents. The Supreme Court in my view should have suugegsted measures to make NJAC more effective and refered it back to the govt for rectification ot ensure judicial independence as thought by it instead of striking it down. A large number of people I have interacted with are not happy with this judgement which appears to be biased. Every body in the country can see the effects of judicial appointments being made by the collegium system of judiciary.
@neelambagade5088
@neelambagade5088 3 жыл бұрын
Before judiciary also becomes an industry like all legislative industries ,let people only decide...Executives have to be revised and also amended timely...
@dragonshishira
@dragonshishira 8 жыл бұрын
Y can't every debate of arnub be like this
@santoshb8452
@santoshb8452 Жыл бұрын
Judiciary should be held accountable..how can we do it
@ravindertalwar553
@ravindertalwar553 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful presentation
@sumitgautam6583
@sumitgautam6583 8 жыл бұрын
rajeev dhawan was not making argument he is consistently making personal comments on the achievvments of jaitley.beside that why dhawan was so arrogant he argunig that politician bash eac other but sorry to say iin this debate he himself was behaving like a politician u better watch it later and compare it with the 9 p.m. show mr. dhawan.
@bhaveshgarodia4373
@bhaveshgarodia4373 Жыл бұрын
It is only because of the moderator no constructive solution was reached. It is saddening to see the moderator interrupting the former Chief Justice of India when he was recommending the solutions.
@prashanttomar7768
@prashanttomar7768 3 жыл бұрын
I really miss old Arnab.
@VPO2024
@VPO2024 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely debate,
@sumitdurugkar6064
@sumitdurugkar6064 3 жыл бұрын
Parliament is not sovereign in India but Constitution is!
@puzzlingweasel1747
@puzzlingweasel1747 8 жыл бұрын
480p MAX? IS THAT ALL YOU GOT TIMES NOW?
@neelambagade5088
@neelambagade5088 3 жыл бұрын
Executive should be crossed cheques with the help of legislators...
@akhilgupta8022
@akhilgupta8022 8 жыл бұрын
The main argument from the judiciary seems to be that their recommendation can be struck down. OF COURSE IT CAN! If it couldn't, what would be the point of the NJAC?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
@SidharthSo
@SidharthSo 8 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to such kind of national debate.. Was critical of NJAC since the bill was drafted.. +1 apex court.. hahah
@moviepipe
@moviepipe 3 жыл бұрын
Great debate - although this Rajeev Dhawan guy seems world weary, envious, bitter, utterly illogical, casteist and somewhat senile. Makes no sense whatsoever
@therahulnagor2567
@therahulnagor2567 2 жыл бұрын
Dhawan is suffering from Superiority complex
@avishekchowdhury7138
@avishekchowdhury7138 4 жыл бұрын
Great debate
@chandrad.9659
@chandrad.9659 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched this debate 100th time only for Mr. Jaitely , he dominated the debate with his speech ...........
@mtalukdar9919
@mtalukdar9919 8 жыл бұрын
My two cents: Establish a six member Judiciary Search Commission. This Commission shall prepare a permanent list of 15 qualified jurists who are qualified to be appointed as judges of the High Court and the Supreme Court. All the members of the commission must be retired High Court or Supreme Court judges or experienced lawyers with 14 years experience in law. The Judiciary Search Commission (JSC) should be appointed in a staggered system (one member to be appointed each year for a fixed period of six year) by the President of India with the consent and advice of the Prime Minister. Judges will be selected from the list and appointed under the current “collegium” system.
@vasudhalimaye4328
@vasudhalimaye4328 8 жыл бұрын
Before starting the debate. I tweeted questioning How is Indian parliament is sovereign. I never read it anywhere. Why is Jaitley presuming the parliamentary sovereignty. So his argument must fail that Legislature knows the betterment of citizen. If our judiciary did not adopt the basic structure doctrine, parliament would have made thousands of constitutional amendment, and our country would have become the country like Pakistan. But now our judiciary is much more stronger. Credit goes to emergency. After emergency judiciary became wiser. It realised that these other two organs would sell our country because of corruption, dirty politics, personal motives. My view is that majority of citizen s would trust collegium rather than these two eminant persons in NJAC.
@rajeevranjanpandey862
@rajeevranjanpandey862 3 жыл бұрын
Genuinely of the best debate ever I watched. All experts are distinguished in their respective fields. All made their point with dignity unlike today's rubbish topic debate.
@navazmody8671
@navazmody8671 2 жыл бұрын
Not all. Sadly Dhawan was obnoxious, arrogant, petulant n getting personal from time to time..Hats off to Jetley for being disdainful of his bad behaviour. Shame coz Dhawan had flashes of sensible points…Sorabji barely spoke.
@aneeshyt37
@aneeshyt37 8 жыл бұрын
I believe our country need more debates like this rather than good for nothing filmfare award nights.. just saying !
@lalranjith3765
@lalranjith3765 2 жыл бұрын
Very good
@lightyagami5760
@lightyagami5760 3 жыл бұрын
Rajiv Dhawan’s attitude unsuitable for a senior counsel
@anuparavind609
@anuparavind609 2 жыл бұрын
Judges within them should select a leader as chief Justice of india
@tilottamachakrabarti7555
@tilottamachakrabarti7555 8 жыл бұрын
'Vidya Dadaati Vinayam'... Unfortunate to see the learned person like Mr Dhawan was so impatient and was continuously getting personal with Mr Arnab Goswami and Mr Arun Jetley ( Personally I do feel Arnab Goswami is the most trustworthy journalist especially while conducting the debate with our Pakistani guests!! ). Mr Jetley made the most appropriate points . Justice Lodha seemed very gracious in his approach and body language while making the different point of view from that of Mr Jatley. Although Mr Arnab Goswami conducted the debate very well, I did miss Dr Swami and his well honoured wisdom . Hope for the reconciliation of the difference between nationalist leader and nationalist journalist for nation's benefit. Aum Shanti.
@707rohit
@707rohit 8 жыл бұрын
Can anyone please point out which recommendation jatley referred to which kalam also disagreed but still judge was appointed
@aloosamosa4u
@aloosamosa4u 8 жыл бұрын
+rohit gupta I believe he was referring to Jagdish bhalla who had many allegations of land acquisitions on his name. He is well known for his links with land mafia in Greater Noida and bought crores worth of property for mere lakhs. Even though detailed reports were presented to then CJI Balakrishna no action was taken on Bhalla and surprisingly SC elevated him ignoring the recommendations of then president Kalam and Law ministry.
@shashidse7137
@shashidse7137 8 жыл бұрын
surprised by the arrogance of this senior advocate. if he is so arrogant one can wonder how arrogant judges might be!!!!
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