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Do Motion with the Micro820 PTO Pulse Train Output Instruction

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Tim Wilborne

Tim Wilborne

Күн бұрын

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@coasmechteranic
@coasmechteranic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this Tim! There’s no info on PTO or PWM on YT. This will definitely help a LOT of people!
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful Jack!
@shashankkumar2032
@shashankkumar2032 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video ❤ Sir I request you kindly make a video on how to program servo over Ethernet sir please.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 3 ай бұрын
Check out this Kinetix series. courses.twcontrols.com/courses/kinetix-servo-motion-control
@fethilakhdari1078
@fethilakhdari1078 2 ай бұрын
Thank Tim, for a good presentation, I am somewhat puzzled by the apparent dissimilarity between the content and the title of this video. The title says "Do Motion with the Micro820 PTO Pulse Train Output Instruction", but the content shows a PWM instruction rather than a PTO instruction. Am I missing something here? Thank you again for a good video. Fethi Lakhdari.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 2 ай бұрын
It has to do with the more common question. People usually ask, what can you do with the Micro820s PTO output since they saw it in the specifications They don't yet know what a PWM is. Also, when people think PWM, they usually think some type of motion control such as step and direction. The Micro820 can't do that. Here's a video on the Micro850's PWM being used for motion control. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qLOGfNiKzdzWaZs.html
@LearningInVR
@LearningInVR 2 жыл бұрын
thanks
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@hakitechautomation9270
@hakitechautomation9270 Ай бұрын
Hi Tim Where do you register output 6 in the block?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne Ай бұрын
I am not sure what you mean by register.
@luiggi_s1195
@luiggi_s1195 Жыл бұрын
¿Which mark is the stepper driver that your using to control the stepper? I got another question i can center point with the stepper position or a need in fact the encoder for exact position or both. Best regards. 🤝🏻
@ivantonylestan7890
@ivantonylestan7890 7 ай бұрын
Tim, could this be used to specify a burst of a certain number of pulses? The clearpath servos use burst mode, so this could make for a neat motion controller.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 7 ай бұрын
The Micro850 would be a better set up. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qLOGfNiKzdzWaZs.html
@neelmistry6736
@neelmistry6736 8 ай бұрын
Hello Tim, is this possible on Micro810 12qwb?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 ай бұрын
No, it has relay outputs.
@shaneplatt736
@shaneplatt736 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! Tim, I know some of the Stepper Drivers have an output option for Tach(Pulses per revolution). Can this me like a simple encoder to determine distance traveled and rate of speed? Thanks!
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne Жыл бұрын
The PTO, like most simple steppers, don't use encoder feedback. Some of them have stall detection but for the most part the "assume" that the motor has moved to the correct position.
@SCHCarlosA
@SCHCarlosA 2 жыл бұрын
what should I plug in +cm1 and -cm1 ? Im having problems with a step motor...
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 2 жыл бұрын
Check out this video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hKmodZd6t7vPf58.html
@larryhart746
@larryhart746 Жыл бұрын
Please list the hardware. What stepper motor are you using? Stepper amplifier? What encoder? The "Stepper Trainer" link is not working.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne Жыл бұрын
Link fixed, thanks for the catch Larry!
@wildfirealert5991
@wildfirealert5991 2 жыл бұрын
The PWM instruction block doesn't exist in my Connected Components, and the instruction manual says to use MC_Power,MC_Move_Velocity, and MC_Write_Parameter. Is there something that I am missing here?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 2 жыл бұрын
What PLC are you working with?
@BuddyNoNo
@BuddyNoNo 2 жыл бұрын
PWM function only works with Mirco820 controller. Other Mirco800 controller use a PTO channels to make same fuction as PWM. PTO output impules, as well. PTO works with MC instruction blocks. I am not sure, but I feel MC series functions give you more accurate control on stepper motor or servo motor when your motor is carrying a heavy load.
@binukanishadbamunuge6389
@binukanishadbamunuge6389 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuddyNoNo Yes, PTO with the MC Function blocks can be used for more accurate and flexible control in motion control applications. You can set Acceleration, Deceleration times, Axis busy status and etc with MC Function Blocks. PWM can be used for basic motion control applications, but I don't think its a better option for position control.
@stephenrider5045
@stephenrider5045 2 жыл бұрын
Can you change the frequency while the motor is moving?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. There is a technote on how to do it. I just used it the other day but I don't believe I have a video on it.
@stephenrider5045
@stephenrider5045 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimWilborne how would I view this tech note? Please and thank you
@walterregules2609
@walterregules2609 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, can micro 830 be used on CNC machines? Is it compatible with any Match 3 software or similar?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 2 жыл бұрын
No, the controllers are designed for two different purposes. Most notably a CNC controller will be able to do circular interpolation.
@yuginsantos846
@yuginsantos846 Жыл бұрын
Can I do this without using Stepper motor driver? can I control the position of the rotation of the stpper motor by just using the PTO/PWM instruction? thank you so much sir.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne Жыл бұрын
It is doubtful that there is a motor out there that would work without a driver, the amperage will be too much.
@yuginsantos846
@yuginsantos846 Жыл бұрын
@@TimWilborne what if I only want it to rotate 180degrees and turn it off. it is okay to not use stepper driver? thank you
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne Жыл бұрын
@@yuginsantos846 No, chances are it won't move a single pulse. Why take the risk of burning up the output?
@yuginsantos846
@yuginsantos846 Жыл бұрын
@@TimWilborne So sir, all stepper motor should have a driver? thank you so much sir. even if it is only 12v? this is for my school project sir. thank you
@henriqueteixeira1236
@henriqueteixeira1236 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Tim, I have the Allen Bradley Micro 850 PLC CPU, 2080-LC50-48QWB, what would be the espasion module that I had to buy to program PTO and PWM signals? Thanks a lot
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 2 жыл бұрын
The PWM is built into it, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLp1f7Rel9qliYk.html
@henriqueteixeira1236
@henriqueteixeira1236 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimWilborne thanks Tim but my PLC dont have a motion control output, I need buy a module output. But I don't know the references! Can you help me? Thanks 👍
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 2 жыл бұрын
@@henriqueteixeira1236 Yes, you are right, I didn't catch the W in the 2080-LC50-48QWB. You need a B there. I don't think there is an option to get you there. Might check some of the 3rd party encompass partners.
@henriqueteixeira1236
@henriqueteixeira1236 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimWilborne Thanks
@stephenrider5045
@stephenrider5045 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video for velocity on a micro 830?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 2 жыл бұрын
Check out this video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLp1f7Rel9qliYk.html
@stephenrider5045
@stephenrider5045 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimWilborne I should of used more words. I'm looking for a UDFB that would send a continuous pulse to a stepper drive. I'm using a pwm UDFB that I received from Rockwell but it seems to be a dirty signal and doesn't keep the motor at a constant speed. Your thoughts would be appreciated
@molickdm
@molickdm Жыл бұрын
@@stephenrider5045 Use the PTO, for accuracy applications
@stephenrider5045
@stephenrider5045 Жыл бұрын
@@molickdm I ended up using a teknic servo that was able to read a pwm signal to vary the rpm. Works perfectly
@molickdm
@molickdm Жыл бұрын
@@stephenrider5045 You're right!. I meant use PTO for position control. PWM works fine with velocity aplications.
@funone8716
@funone8716 2 жыл бұрын
Wow my head is spinning. This is super complicated. How is anyone ever able to learn this?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 2 жыл бұрын
The PWM is definitely in the deep end of the automation learning pool. Start with the basics first. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMuPZbepm8jRnYE.html
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