Mee, is Zen included!?

Me ✋

Yess I'm 😌

Me unnie ☺️

me HAHAHHA

Which is a shame. You have idols with already plump lips, filling them up to look a circle 😢 not to say body image was better in any other decade. But image and dancing are becoming more important than singing because you can 'autotune' everything

I'm more curious about who HyunA makeup artists is, her makeup are all so awesome

@@izabelezyleifyauto tune has been abused in kpop since forever, especially during the heavy electronic-pop music era which was 2nd gen-ish. I do agree that dancing has become more important tho :0

yes! I kinda miss the smokey eyes sometimes

@notobsidian okay, maybe my wording was wrong. Autotune is everywhere and has been for a long time, not in the electo tpain way. I feel like the voices are becoming more easy-going, with not so much vocal excellence. Most singers simply dont have the pipes. The wow factor is focused on the choreo now. I don't mean it in a 'the old days were better'. There's more variety, but you have to look for those who can sing well.

Ikr? Since becoming an adult, the most effort I've ever put into my make-up has always been my base, and my life's work has been to get it as accurately colour-matched as possible to softly blend into my neck, and avoid my pet peeve of a "tide-mark" - perhaps unusually though, this 50 year old caucasian westerner has always been more than happy to stay her pale, cool-neutral and "ghostly" self, despite all the years of having to lighten foundation! :) [edit: and yes, Tina looks absolutely *amazing* - as always! And I want, want, want that hairstyle - even at my age, lol!]

Came here looking for this comment. It's like some westerners don't realize different beauty standards exist around the world, and it doesn't mean East Asians want to be white lol. Why is it okay for them to tan like 3 shades darker, but not okay for us to want to be fairer when having fair skin has been considered beautiful for centuries in many East Asian cultures?

I too am Asian, while Im no fan of wearing foundation lighter than one’s actual skin tone, it really makes me roll my eyes when non Asians assume that it means we want to “look white”. That’s such an Eurocentric thing to say. Fair skin as the standard of beauty has been around in Asian cultures for centuries, before any white people had set foot in Asia.

@@justpreciousthings6045especially because white/western ppl aren’t ever actually white but pinkish…so if u want to look white get a tan or wear pink foundation! no offense to yt ppl but e asian makeup seems to actually favor a bright look all over and is definitively asian.

Yeah I don't understand this. Feels like they're ashamed of their natural skin tone even though it's already beautiful!

@@meg2444 They say it is because of the lights but Idk if this is true

Hmm I think they used much lighter foundation because this is a "kpop idol" make up. I don't know anything about makeup, but thinking same way as painting. Lighter background make other color pop up, clear, and more bright. in this case the pinkish eye shadows and blush will seem more clearly on the pale foundation? That's my guess.

didn’t even start the video yet, came right to the comments cause i knew someone would say this 😭

That's what I thought while she was in the chair, but at the end while she was out in natural light at least on my monitor it looked totally fine. I paused at 12:34 and her face looks like a solid match for her neck, ears, chest all the way down, and hands. If you pause at 13:00 while she's sitting facing the camera it looks great. She looks pretty much the same as in the last few videos as well. It definitely looked too light in the salon but it looked pretty good outside in natural light.

Well, kpop makeover usually includes too light foundation to hide idol's natural skin tone. I absolutely despise that.

For me it's Moonbyul from Mamamoo ^^

Same