Tiny Bow VS Giant Bow (shoot off)

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3 ай бұрын

Tim Connor shoots the Darton Consequence against the PSE Supra X in a head to head shoot off. This is a fun comparison and archery video. #archery #review
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@TimConnor13 3 ай бұрын

Happy Monday friends.. think there needs to be a part 2? Go crush your week, and don’t forget to shoot your bow

@Silbar89 3 ай бұрын

Same shoot but with the Bear in place of the Darton

@tycheck8883 3 ай бұрын

Shoot with Dan and get a bench mark your pse vs his title

@rodneymeshigaud8128 3 ай бұрын

You ever stay up late and think of the length and girth of your bow? Lol great video man! Love all your stuff!

@TimConnor13 3 ай бұрын

Glad you caught that 😀

@adamnickel 3 ай бұрын

Looks like the white wizard isn’t as much of a difference as I thought. I’ll keep going with my 29 V3X. It’s just fine.

@zachbrazeau3886 3 ай бұрын

1:01 timmy my bow isn't what I'm worried about being long enough 😂😂

@BlackwaterBound 3 ай бұрын

Would love to see a more apples to apples comparison. Either move hunting set up to target bow or move target set up (sight, bars, release) to your hunting bow. That way you can really see if the longer ata makes a difference.

@TimConnor13 3 ай бұрын

Noted

@headoutdoors3702 3 ай бұрын

I 100% agree. Throw the target stuff on the consequence

@matthewdeloney9142 3 ай бұрын

Great video. Would love to see a part 2 with this. Also think it would be cool to do a mini series with this.

@juanrodriguez-mu7ko 3 ай бұрын

Awesome trying to learn how to shoot so keep the vids coming I’m trying to learn as much as possible thanks 🙏🏽

@driftlesshunter9200 3 ай бұрын

My first Mathews bow was a 1996 Signature. It was a 41" ATA hunting bow designed for finger shooters (less pinch on your fingers when pulled back). Bows were much lighter back then. The 41" ATA Signature was about 3.5 pounds. Even though I switched over to a release eventually, I shot that bow for 17 seasons & harvested a large number of deer with it. Each year Mathews cranked out something new, but I just kept telling myself I would wait until the next new marketing hype item came out. Near the end of that 17 year period, the one thing (SoloCam) that first put Mathews on the map was starting to disappear. My current bow (2013 model different brand) has factory specs of 35" ATA, 6.25" brace height, 340 fps, & 4.5 pounds. A 2024 bow of the same brand would be 34" ATA, 6.25" brace height, 342 fps, & 4.5 pounds. I would feel silly replacing my 10+ year old bow. I like most everything about it. Buy whatever you can afford & just enjoy it for years to come. I prefer 34-35" ATA bows. Compared to my previous bow, that still seems short!

@brianfletcher319 3 ай бұрын

Definitely would love to see part 2

@braydenpresley1437 3 ай бұрын

Really cool you're doing this comparison! I bought a Bear Cruzer G3 last year. First bow, and it's relatively short. Wasn't 100% sure I made the right call... but over time, after talking to some folks, I figured out it's fine if you just practice. But it's cool to see what kind of thoughts you came away with after trying both of these out. Thanks Tim!

@maxgeorge8746 3 ай бұрын

Good shooting from both bows. Was wondering why you were alternating your releases

@macrocha5251 3 ай бұрын

Good morning from New Zealand! Love the videos Tim and the whole community you guys have in Spokane… my suggestion, Shoot 40 arrows with one bow and then again with the other bow, score only the last 30 of each bow. I believe the constant swap n between releases may have cause, I said “MAY”, the big variance. Just a suggestion from an old guy with just a year of experience shooting 2 different index releases from 2 different bows, a 33ATA hunting and a 40ATA target…

@crusher8017 2 ай бұрын

Agree, changing the bow every 3 or 5 shots would be confusing.

@BrianHYX 3 ай бұрын

29 is a perfect size. Some might even say it's above average. I bet it shoots better and has a great personality! ; )

@TimConnor13 3 ай бұрын

Right on

@MicahGitlewski-qs1qq 3 ай бұрын

Nice video dude keep it up

@briansteele1378 3 ай бұрын

Bought the stan solex index release per your recommendations and let me tell you, absolute game changer!!

@teddibiase5332 3 ай бұрын

You earned my subscription today

@carlparisi9749 3 ай бұрын

Bros flexing shooting a button with an index STILL ATTACHED lol. Love it Tim keep it up

@followed_buffalo 3 ай бұрын

Great video. As always. Your should watch the replay your head position was different on the target bow when you were hitting high I believe.

@ADMulhearn 3 ай бұрын

Also don't move your feet between shots. You want to keep everything the same for each shot, reduce all variability that you can

@johncannady6105 3 ай бұрын

Very interesting results and great production. I like the longer bow for 3D events like TAC, but I prefer a shorter ATA for treestand/saddle hunting Whitetails.

@Friends.19166 3 ай бұрын

Hose vanes are different!! Interesting video so many veriables there haha

@MickyMouseLimited 3 ай бұрын

Man your video was excellent . I have to say one thing I shoot in very similar way every time the weather allows. The thing is you had excellent first 3 arrows on 50 with the Darton because you were fresh and not tired. Also because you didn't have a lens you were not overcompensating . Too me I can see the float of the bow from the fatigue. I have very similar experience when I shoot. I normally shoot 1 arrow at 20 if it is an x I go to 30 if it is a 10 or x a go at 50 and shoot only 50. My first 3 arrows will be 10 and 9s after that it is all downhill. After I get exhausted I shoot one arrow and pause for 2 minutes than again until even with brake I can't make 10s . Than I go back to 30 shoot few more 10s and I go home. Any super nice video please make one more.

@jeffevans4598 3 ай бұрын

I have a couple of hunting bows and shoot them back to back over a period of time and keep track of the scores with each to try and get a long term idea of which one I shoot the best.

@dice2420 3 ай бұрын

Definitely needs to be a part 2. It looks like Darton for the win on this one. What is the difference of weight of the bows? Are they both on the same draw weight? Good shooting and love the videos.

@TimConnor13 3 ай бұрын

No, darton is 70lb draw pse is 58 ✊

@dice2420 3 ай бұрын

@@TimConnor13 may have to drop the draw weight to match as well. Can’t wait to see the next test.

@brianlew9559 3 ай бұрын

Also, wonder if the shorter bow had the benefit of long stabilizers, would it make a difference?

@TheWVgoodguy22 3 ай бұрын

Pretty interesting and fun video comparing apples 🍎 to oranges 🍊 and the close results were pretty cool to see. 29 inch ATA is not an average size for a hunting bow it’s on the short end of the spectrum of 29-34, although there are more 30 ATA and lower bows in the market than there use to be. Great shooting with both, especially the Darton out to distance. I would like to see an uneven 3D course run with both of those bows 😎🏹🏹🦌🐻

@nicfield6895 3 ай бұрын

I just noticed your anchor isn't putting the shaft in the valley above your chin and below your lip. Do you do that to compensate for facial hair?

@coryderosier6328 3 ай бұрын

Tim i think part 2 with the target bow vs the Alaskan XT!

@ethanfeatheroff9135 3 ай бұрын

I generally find myself getting tired faster with the bigger bow becoming more unstable I wonder if the wind is having a greater affect on the king bow as well

@yasotay 3 ай бұрын

Um the consequence you draw past your anchor and the settle. I'm wondering how long the draw and d loop are considering the differing string angles. To long of the d loop will change your float pattern compared to a shorter d loop.

@joshkeller84 3 ай бұрын

im honestly debating hunting with my pse supra focus. at 31" draw length, the short bows are nice to carry, but the string angle is rough.

@MichaelAllmanArcher 3 ай бұрын

Verrrrry good video sir

@kylemacdonell1450 3 ай бұрын

Good shooting TIM.. The difference I noticed watching you shoot is you seem to struggle getting the thumb release to fire at 50YDS and not so much with the index finger release.. Just my thoughts..

@earlofcockwood4757 3 ай бұрын

Did you shoot the Dominator Duo as well? And why did you choose the supra over the Dominator?

@aarongilbertson3074 3 ай бұрын

I personally believe that ata is less important than riser length. That darton's riser isn't much shorter than the riser on the pse and it shoots pretty close for the idea.

@ricksears3330 3 ай бұрын

I’m sure you realized while watching but when you used the finger trigger on the Darton you are much more accurate

@TheNewBowunter 3 ай бұрын

Why Different releases?

@randymanes1922 3 ай бұрын

Love my consequence that I ordered from mr jones himself , got it all setup yesterday , hard to beat especially for the $$$

@madmaxxcrosby 3 ай бұрын

It’s the shit bro you won’t regret it !! I just wish u was able to get a black one but i didn’t wanna wait 8 weeks for the order i stuck with the OD green

@juanrodriguez-mu7ko 3 ай бұрын

Hey Tim! How do you set your sight? Its shooting left high? I’m a newbie and want to learn how to set my sight up myself instead of depending on the pro shop to keep doing it for me. Thanks in advance 🙏🏽

@bent13ways 3 ай бұрын

Chase your arrow. If you shoot high, move sight up. Shoot to the left, move sight left

@juanrodriguez-mu7ko 3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much I’ll try that I’m just not sure how I just started shooting a bow like my third time but thanks 🙏🏽

@juanrodriguez-mu7ko 3 ай бұрын

@@bent13waysthanks again I’ll try this tonight when I get home from work thank you 🙏🏽

@rickarcher300 3 ай бұрын

What Wrist strap release are you using?

@ks_bowhunter_nc 3 ай бұрын

He uses the Stan SoleX. It's a very nice "budget" index release. It's cheaper than many other index releases and still has great adjustability. I got one after TC's recommendation and it's my favorite index release by far.

@colingregory7464 3 ай бұрын

It looked like you needed a bit more weight on the front of the Consequence (the bar was kicking up on the follow thru), how much of any difference was due to the different setup rather than the different bow ?

@colingregory7464 3 ай бұрын

I do not use a lens in my target sight, my scores have always dropped significantly when I use a scope lens and risen back to the pre lens scores immediately I remove it. The lens looses me about 80/100 points a round on a 144 arrow (York round )

@colingregory7464 3 ай бұрын

For a field round it made almost no difference switching between a five pin short rod setup (NFAA bowhunter?) and an Unlimited setup, the five pin setup is so much less hassle and so much more fun (for me !)

@jesse4r5 3 ай бұрын

Youth bow 3d shootoff between you and mfjj would be hilarious

@bigz5262 3 ай бұрын

Using the same fletchings on your target bow would shrink the groups up. Dang good shooting though!

@braydenlove5289 3 ай бұрын

every time you shot the victory v6 it was low on the vegas face

@robertmiller6822 3 ай бұрын

Im sure youd shoot great in the middle range i usually shoot 33 and up to 38 but i do like my 40 supra rtx i think i shoot better with my verdict but then i go down the my 34 to 36 ata bows and i shoot great.

@kellyskinner7282 3 ай бұрын

Tim u should at least shoot the same release for both 😮

@rickadams9 3 ай бұрын

Make "everything" the same except the ATA.

@nathansampson4162 3 ай бұрын

Tim, I looked like to me you where reaching to get your nose on the string when shooting the PSE.

@thenameiwantedwastaken 3 ай бұрын

I prefer a longer ATA. Anything under 33 inches feels a little "twittchy" to me. It doesn't help I have a 32 inch draw length so string angle is pretty severe with shorter bows, but I just feel like a longer riser makes them more stable at my DL

@macbarb12 3 ай бұрын

You should do a Qad vs hamske video or a fire side chat about what rest you guys like now…. I shoot a hamske and love it but a big part of that is how you guys hyped up the hamskea a couple years ago… “it’s bullet proof etc.” I would love to get your opinions on why social media went back to qad and what other rests guys should look into. #100kleggo

@MrRourk 3 ай бұрын

We need to get you a 74 inch English Warbow

@bradforner2939 3 ай бұрын

Should use the same release for both bows so ita fair an index will always be less accurate than a hinge

@the_sharp_carpenter 3 ай бұрын

There is a difference in how they anchor and release the string, so if he's tuned them for the release it'll change how they shoot. Also there are private hers running index releases, you can be just as accurate with either.

@MILongdraw 3 ай бұрын

Tim! You take advice based on review right? Look at your release hand when you shoot. Try the 4 finger, please! You already lock your fingers in place, allow yourself to have the leverage!! I did it and never looked back. Since I don't pull through on a clicker, it gives me more leverage to stay locked back and keep good strong tension for a strong shot!

@andyhampton5768 3 ай бұрын

First off, did anyone notice he was shooting the supra with his thumb release and the consequence with his trigger finger release? If you really wanna compare bows there's a lot more than picking two bows up and comparing them. I would start with shooting both bows with the thumb release.

@Texaslivinoutdoors 3 ай бұрын

40” is a long bow unless your over 6.2ish IMO. Watch how much the top limbs sway side to side on his last 5 arrows.

@mikefutrell4224 3 ай бұрын

🎯🎯🎯

@MILongdraw 3 ай бұрын

Also... Lol couple people said apples to apples. See if josh will let you set up a few target bows! 3d seasons on its way!!

@williammcmurran2596 3 ай бұрын

You move a lot more with the PSE

@user-Thanakorn2514 3 ай бұрын

❤❤❤

@mikebarriga 3 ай бұрын

How’d you guys make the same video on the same day? You know who I’m talking about.

@mikebarriga 3 ай бұрын

Oh and you did it better

@toddblackburn4862 3 ай бұрын

Don’t know what was going on , but on the 50 yard shots your Supra was swaying side to side a lot…. At least that’s what it looks like watching the video

@SlinkyDaBob 3 ай бұрын

As an elf I prefer the tiny bow.

@brianlew9559 3 ай бұрын

I was told more than a couple of times by coaches that more weight on the back bar is pretty important. Forgot the ratio, but I guess it's such a personal thing.

@MILongdraw 3 ай бұрын

On my v3x 33 I run 6 up front on a 12 bar and 4 on back on a 10 bar. It's all about feel. On my target set up I run 5 on a 30 bar and 16 on a 15 bar

@brianlew9559 3 ай бұрын

Is the target bow like that because you tend to hold longer? I think I like more off the back than front for target, but still experimenting.

@Thebeardedbowhunter 3 ай бұрын

How’d you grow your channel so fast? I need some help 🤣

@waynestevenson9613 3 ай бұрын

Lose the clicker and stick with the wrist rocket! When executed properly there isn’t a more accurate release!

@sjmonty19 3 ай бұрын

Damn ive tried this with my traix and my v3x 33, not even remotely as close as you were v3x won by like 10 miles

@ronaldirvineII 3 ай бұрын

Never shot against anyone or really with anyone like in paper targets and really 3d for that fact. So idk what is good and what is not. But say if u can hit in the middle of all 3 targets or within an inch or so everytime should that person start shooting tournaments or start shooting more seriously or is it completely normal to be able to shoot like that everytime at 20 yards on a paper target in your back yard

@royleerobinson5 3 ай бұрын

Man you are like tracking at your skill and thought process as me. I’ve concluded all things equal bow quality and setup. It comes down to the Indian not the bow

@lawrencefranck9417 3 ай бұрын

Pse is moving around more than the Darton. Center grip…

@XXXston3wallXXX 3 ай бұрын

Thank you

@TheIVSaken 3 ай бұрын

In my humble opinion, it is about knowing your bow and practice with the same set up 24/7. Buy what you like, then go shoot and get gud.

@korelick8411 3 ай бұрын

The high and low variance is from the grips. Darton is flat, PSE has more angle. You are swapping bows but your brain/hand are not.

@keithcushing8162 3 ай бұрын

Watch the video you shack more with the pse

@davidgriffin5935 3 ай бұрын

ol long dong!! tim conner gold

@PaulieB_TDO 3 ай бұрын

Why do you keep deleting my comments??

@MicahGitlewski-qs1qq 3 ай бұрын

First

@g-man2228 3 ай бұрын

Let’s go Brandon….😁

@jons7e 3 ай бұрын

It's just like golf clubs. You can't buy scores. Sure, a target bow might be slightly more accurate in the right hands... most people can't out shoot their bows, any bow, period. The problem is you, not the bow.

@Your_mom736 3 ай бұрын

You focus on your level too much. Look once, make adjustments, focus on your target. You’ll naturally want to pull it back to level and on target. You can see the bow moving back and forth as it appears you’re trying to center your bubble. Greatly appreciate your content.