Tips and Tricks: EZ Rails

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Granberg International

Granberg International

5 жыл бұрын

How to properly set up the EZ-Rails on an uneven or tapered log.
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@charliemowry774
@charliemowry774 5 ай бұрын
Got a rail system from you, it's awesome, you can also have left your Mill on and made a leveler cut😊😊😊😊
@clem95627
@clem95627 2 жыл бұрын
I went with 1/4" thick 12"L x 5" H plates with holes every half inch along the bottom of the plate. Then cut 2" slots into the plate an inch in from each end. The notches are 1 1/2" deep to allow the 2x2 rails to sit out 1/2". No flex, heavier yes, but no worries about the rails and they will last a lifetime. 13' 2x2 @ 1/8" thickness. Allows me to cut 12' 6" with no problems.
@ejsocci2630
@ejsocci2630 Жыл бұрын
Awesome awesome. Thanks for sharing
@LolitasGarden
@LolitasGarden 5 жыл бұрын
This is such a great addition to the chainsaw mill which I am really getting my money's worth out of. Having a ladder as a guide is just so much more affordable. That's what I say on my channel- "this is a great product, but you probably already have a ladder."
@granberginternational
@granberginternational 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Originally, the Alaskan Mill was only used with 2x4's or just a slab of wood. A ladder is another great option as well and we suggest that to those who can't afford this set. EZ-Rails were created for those who had the budget and wanted to set up and level their first cut easily and accurately. Happy Milling!
@toknowlj
@toknowlj 3 жыл бұрын
actually steel tubing works great - just heavy, but smooth less flex - I have seen modular aluminum used by others. all a little better than a ladder [less flex] heavy tho :(
@jeffenglishsetter8339
@jeffenglishsetter8339 3 жыл бұрын
I actually took the concepts of the ez rails and adapted them to my ladder sections...that old extension ladder with a crushed end that the kubota ran over turns into a great 12 rail system. Pipe/fence clamps modified to make dogs and the leveling bolts...I greatly thank GB for their innovations.
@dusty6345
@dusty6345 3 жыл бұрын
So far my main issue is the tendency for the leveling bolts to rattle loose, no matter how much pressure they are putting down. So I highly recommend buying some nuts to keep the leveling bolts in position.
@steveshanklin44
@steveshanklin44 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like to me you should change out those flat head screws to bolts....
@toknowlj
@toknowlj 3 жыл бұрын
torx, allen, nut head - avoid straight screws avoid phillips types also
@redflogger
@redflogger 3 жыл бұрын
I was always taught to put a lever thought the middle of the log at each end. Scribe a line through the middle and measure rand end from that point to the top of the log that will give you the difference saves lifting the rails on and off repeatedly. 9 times out of ten I get it first time. Also a pice of foam over the microphone. Is a easy wind fix. Use a longer lever. Simple. Simple. Stuff
@OldNew45
@OldNew45 4 жыл бұрын
Angle iron. Two shorter perpendiculars. Two long rails for milling. I have a 14' setup that doesn't droop at all. No screw holes in your slabs. No aluminum parts getting bent up in your truck. Maybe you guys should come up with something like that as an "HD version"
@toknowlj
@toknowlj 3 жыл бұрын
sounds good - we used steel tubing with steel angel iron across and bolts to keep it leveled as we did our 1st cut. no flex, but heavy
@WILSON.1
@WILSON.1 Жыл бұрын
Bought the ez rail system. Selling on Facebook. Looking for some straight aluminum ladders to use as guides.
@granberginternational
@granberginternational Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you didn't like the EZ-Rails. What about them didn't work for you? Thanks for the feedback!
@WILSON.1
@WILSON.1 Жыл бұрын
@@granberginternational After taking 30 min to adjust the leveling screws, they back out instantly as the chainsaw moves down the wood thereby ruining the level. They need to be locked in place with nylon lock nut style setting.
@dirtyswar
@dirtyswar 5 жыл бұрын
How do prevent a dip in the center from occurring? If you start with a dip in the center, essentially you've cut a bow in the first piece cut. Every board after will have the same bow.
@granberginternational
@granberginternational 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! The rails are extremely strong, extruded aluminum and should never bow while using them. The important part is to make sure down the length of the log, that the rails are straight. You achieve this by adjusting the leveling screws. But straight is not level. Once the rails are straight, then you level across the log using the leveling screws again. Now if the log can easily be moved and it is relatively even in diameter end to end then you can first level the log by using spacers of some kind, 2x4s or 4x4s or whatever pieces of wood you have around. Once the log is level, you can then use a level along the length of the EZ-rails. However, since many logs are not in position to move it is unwise to do so, thus the utility of the Alaskan Mill to allow you to cut in place! In this situation the EZ-Rails need to be set up as above. I hope this answered your question. Best, Granberg Team
@roberthiday3342
@roberthiday3342 3 жыл бұрын
Newbie here. about to use it for the first time. I understand the plan you have laid out, but have a (sort of) related question. What do you use to remove the bark? Are there times, types of trees, etc. where it is not necessary to remove it?
@granberginternational
@granberginternational 2 жыл бұрын
Removing the bark is a tip we find quite helpful and that is because a lot of dirt and rocks reside in the bark that tend to dull your chain much faster . Not having to stop milling and sharpen your chain can save you a lot of time.
@teensmith2247
@teensmith2247 3 жыл бұрын
Looking for advice i have a 30in round tree in my backyard already head cut down any recommendations on what kind of chainsaw and mill a beginner should get
@ras8916
@ras8916 3 жыл бұрын
If you are going to mill a 30 inch hardwood tree, you need a lot of power, and a ripping chain will make it a whole lot easier. The Stihl 880 has enough power, but is not a beginner saw, or a beginner price. Depends where you are, but in my area there are sawyers who will mill for you on site--yes, it is costly, but you pay for their skill, time, and equipment, and they will get the best lumber out or your tree in a reasonable amount of time. If there is good access vehicle access, you may be able to take the tree to a small lumber mill--assuming the tree has a long straight section at the base, and is of a desirable species.
@AlexeyTarasov_Victar
@AlexeyTarasov_Victar 5 жыл бұрын
имея небольшой опыт работы с такими рамками должен сказать, что при узком расположении рельс пила может качаться во время пиления, и строго горизонтальной ровной поверхности уже не получается достичь.
@michaelalbano8345
@michaelalbano8345 5 жыл бұрын
Can you guys comment on how the best way to keep the leveling screws from walking out when sawing is? I've had these rails for a couple years and my issue is that with the saw's vibration the screws just spin right out of place while cutting. This really causes a lot of issues and I rarely can achieve a smooth first cut because of this. Thanks!
@granberginternational
@granberginternational 5 жыл бұрын
Shoot us an email at info@granberg.com and we can give you some tips on that!
@weekendwoodturner3715
@weekendwoodturner3715 5 жыл бұрын
I add a deck screw(s) through the other holes in the cross pieces to produce tension on the leveling screws. They also add additional security should a dog pop out.
@granberginternational
@granberginternational 5 жыл бұрын
We have also found that the backout can usually be counteracted by setting the screws, then the dogs, then releveling the screw, making sure the leveling screw makes solid contact into the log. This should create enough upward tension on the dog spike to prevent that walking out of the screw.
@toknowlj
@toknowlj 3 жыл бұрын
we used steel tubing with steel with bolts to level with a couple deck screws (just because) - much less flex [the log/dogs would be a great addition] those should help. *uh yeah we made our own rails as none were available 40 or so years ago. ;)
@em3781
@em3781 2 жыл бұрын
You could add a nut to the leveling screws and snug them up to the square stock they thread through. Would essentially work as a double nut does.
@brettrichter5568
@brettrichter5568 4 жыл бұрын
Why is it important to square the cross brace assemblies to the EZ Rail? Going to use my 20ft EZ Rail for the first time today!
@granberginternational
@granberginternational 4 жыл бұрын
Good question. It is not a necessity however, it is helpful in making sure the whole setup is square. It could very easily be done without a square though.
@toknowlj
@toknowlj 3 жыл бұрын
it helps us that are picky about the dimensions. our first efforts were thick and thin until we paid a little more attention to our guide rails. :D
@john-cx7nt
@john-cx7nt 3 жыл бұрын
I notice you only sight down the length of the log for leveling. Isn't it important to level the rails in both directions before making the first cut? Wouldn't you want to use a 3' -4' level for leveling the log lengthwise? It is quite a bit more accurate than just sighting down the log. Or is length leveling not that important?
@granberginternational
@granberginternational 3 жыл бұрын
What's most important is measuring from the center of the log to the top of the rails on each side and making sure that distance is the same. Then you sight down the log, and using a level down the length of the log isn't necessary if you follow the first step. Then you level across the bars where the 'leveling screws' are at. Do that at all the screws. Then go back and hammer in the dog and recheck with your level, making any minor adjustments needed. Also make sure the leveling screws are tight in the log. ( you don't want them coming out while milling - and you can ensure this by screwing the leveling screws in first and then hammering in dogs - that way the dogs lock in the screws) Hope that makes sense!
@sadilegno
@sadilegno Жыл бұрын
Grenberg rail
@fishoil2158
@fishoil2158 4 жыл бұрын
The aluminum rails look a little flimsy. I don't think I'd like all that flex.
@toknowlj
@toknowlj 3 жыл бұрын
yup our old rails were steel tubing welded with cross bars that were also ez to level with bolts :) [the pitch kept them from rusting] lol
@cdawg9149
@cdawg9149 2 жыл бұрын
I like the rails but the supports are no bueno. Using a platform on each end of the log to support the rails much easier faster and sturdier. Maybe a support in the middle if the rails have a tendency to bend. Dont like this setup. BTW Ive milled around 300 slabs in the last couple years.
@granberginternational
@granberginternational 2 жыл бұрын
We are always open to feedback from our customers, can you please email this idea to lindsey@granberg.com and I will share it with our engineering team. Thanks!
@FRECSF1
@FRECSF1 5 жыл бұрын
I am glad I didn't go with this system. The rails are not strong enough (you can see the bend before the leveling screws were set and it requires a lot of time to setup. For the cost of this setup Granberg should provide longer set of leveling screws. This is based on my observations. Instead I purchased a used 30 ft extension ladder for $40. Much more rigid and easy to setup. Other options available is a $20 timber guide used with a 2x6 or 2x4 which also sets up in minutes. Will not do a top cut but requires a lot less setup time with minimal cost.
@granberginternational
@granberginternational 5 жыл бұрын
We do sell longer leveling screws (6") for those who need them. We never push our First Cut accessories on folks, our only goal is to make the milling process easier. Many people use ladders and thats great! Whatever works for the customer works for us. These rails are extremely strong as well as being light weight, so they are easy to manage and easy to set up.
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