Tips for Timing a 98-02 Honda Accord Balance Shaft 2.3l VTEC

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SRTech

SRTech

Жыл бұрын

Had to replace the water pump in my 1999 Honda Accord EX, and when I opened the timing cover I noticed this mangled rats nest jammed against the water pump! At the time I had no idea what this belt was, but given how mangled it was I knew it had been like that before I even purchased the car a few years ago, and therefor not critical! I debated omitting the belt, especially since I know it's not required (Obviously), and I DON'T know why it broke in the 1st place (Possibly age, possibly shaft seizure/damage), and as any competent technician knows, repair is not just identifying the problem, but finding out why there was a problem in the 1st place! If it broke due to seizure/shaft damage, given the fact that the Timing shaft is coupled with this mystery shaft, if it does sieze again, with the belt being new and strong, it WILL DESTROY THE ENGINE! But given the age and mileage (33X,XXX on the odometer) of this car, Age/wear certainly can't be ruled out! Plus both shafts the belt controls turn very smoothly, so I decided to replace the belt with everything else! A quick Google search shed light on this subsystem as a Balance Shaft used to mitigate engine vibrations with counterweights! Quick trip to an auto parts store and I have the new belt in hand, but how to time it to the rest of the motor? I could not find a guide anywhere online on how to time the Balance Shaft if it loses timing with the Crankshaft, and I don't have a Haynes Manual, so I had to depend on my technical muscle and analyze a few of ‪@ktecgarage‬ videos on rebuilding an F23 Honda motor to determine the right way to align the shaft! I learned that the shaft closest to the front of the car is 1:1, line up the notches and ur good 2 go, the shaft closest to the water pump is a different story. The gear that the belt drives is coupled internally to another gear that makes 1 full revolution for every 3 revolutions the outside gear makes! To put it in plain English, The alignment markers mean NOTHING unless that external gear is on the correct revolution! As shown in the video, the gear will not rest on those markers unless its on the correct revolution, so if you line up the shaft and it moves, spin it 360 and try again, untill the shaft rests on the markers shown in the video. There is also a 12mm bolt behind the motor right next to a VIN Plate used for aligning the shaft properly, but you will lose a little oil, so if you go that route be warned. Just wanted to put this video out to shed some light on this Balance Shaft and how to properly align it if the belt breaks and/or it loses timing somehow, bc from my experience, documentation is slim on how to time this shaft after it loses timing from the Crankshaft! Thanks for watching!!!
Note: I am NOT a career mechanic! I am just a competent General Purpose Technician that believes DIY knows no limits!

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@jtheglin1640
@jtheglin1640 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Good info, short and to the point, and you didn't sound like a robot lol
@mobilemike8500
@mobilemike8500 Жыл бұрын
I thought those would be the marks to line it up with also unfortunately the timing gear sets don't come with instructions for that rear balance shaft problem is the bolt will go in in three separate positions the only one where the Bolt will go in where any marks actually line up on that rear cover is when the notch on the back of the pulley as at 12 o'clock and the line on the front of the pulley is at 5 clock and lines up with the marks on the rear cover if you put the line at 12 and the notch at 7 the Bolt will not go in the hole when it's lined up the only way the Bolt will go in in that position you'll end up being about a tooth off so the short of it is put the rear Notch at 12 and the Frontline at 5 that's the only way the boat will go in the hole with any marks lined up and that has to be the right way because that's the only place where any marks actually line up with a bolt in the hole I wish they would just put the instructions in the timing belt kit like they used to and if you don't want to pull the plug out just put the marks in that position when turning the pulley and letting go makes it fall back to that position if it falls away from that position you're in the wrong spot
@cambodianboost3945
@cambodianboost3945 Жыл бұрын
There's also a service port bolt where you take out and use a long screw driver to stick in there to hold the shaft in place. Once you turn it three times correctly, the screw driver is able to insert all the way in. If its not turn three times correctly then the screw driver will not insert all the way in. Its another way to align that back balance shaft. Its a 12mm bolt right behind that balance gear, kinda underneath the water pump.
@philmccrevis7303
@philmccrevis7303 11 ай бұрын
This is correct, video is wrong
@moiiglass8912
@moiiglass8912 4 ай бұрын
Thanks bout to do this job rn an wanted to make sure I get all the info on this job. Appreciate it
@unebonnevie
@unebonnevie 9 ай бұрын
Good info on lining up the timings!
@user-ov6zk7mt5r
@user-ov6zk7mt5r 11 ай бұрын
This helped greatly thanks
@philmccrevis7303
@philmccrevis7303 11 ай бұрын
Video is totally wrong. The mark doesn't go up like that. Its in the 5 o'clock position and a bolt goes in back service hole to know you got it correct
@LifeOfRlce
@LifeOfRlce 16 күн бұрын
Thank you
@user-oz7jh3rx7o
@user-oz7jh3rx7o 6 ай бұрын
How do you turn it?? Tool or by hand. I've never done this, I am learning.
@Laurel-Crowned
@Laurel-Crowned Ай бұрын
Why do all the pictures show the mark to go tword the bottom right? To many different bs online! Sure wish I had the manual about now as my new car doesn't line up at all! 😊
@srtech2205
@srtech2205 Ай бұрын
Yea I didn't even think about posting a video till the job was almost done! I didn't have a manual either, and I found almost nothing online explaining how to sync the Camshaft to the Balance shaft if they lose sync, like what happened to me where the Balance shaft belt broke but not the Timing belt! I had to watch F23 rebuild videos to even get an idea on how to resync the 2! But YES, a Haynes Manual wld be BEST!!!!
@kiyoshi8657
@kiyoshi8657 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, took mine off without doing the bolt but now I know! Got the rear balance shaft balanced with no tension on the given marks and we'll see how it goes
@srtech2205
@srtech2205 Жыл бұрын
Good Luck!!!!!Hope it keeps u on the road for many more miles!!!! They're great cars hands down!!!!!!
@humbertolopez8725
@humbertolopez8725 12 күн бұрын
That's your oil pump the balance shaft is the other one on the other side
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