Tips to Tell a Fake Antique Doll | *Is my antique doll a REAL antique?*

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Rachel Hoffman

Rachel Hoffman

6 жыл бұрын

In this video, we chat with Linda Wall who is an antique doll reproduction artisan about fakes, forgeries, and fantasy dolls that were made and distributed by unscrupulous people to defraud unsuspecting collectors. We learn a lot from Linda's tips and see some really good fakes.
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@KiwiKollector
@KiwiKollector 4 жыл бұрын
Aw bless Linda, "i've never done this before". What a darling she is! Loved the video, thank you.
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching!
@CommentsAllowed
@CommentsAllowed 4 жыл бұрын
22:00 Also take a look inside the doll and look for cracks. It is also possible it is an antique that broke. The person who restores it might not get all the details 100% perfect.
@zibikit
@zibikit Жыл бұрын
The best advice is don't buy a doll (or anything in the art/jewelry world) _unless_ you're in love with it!🥰
@zezmo987
@zezmo987 8 ай бұрын
2023 very interesting class! Thank u Linda & Rachel!
@Bonzo1ish
@Bonzo1ish 3 жыл бұрын
I love the background of the workshop in the background, awesome stuff going on. As a maker of porcelain dolls, reborn and all manner of stuff love your educational programme...x
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@dakotacraft9672
@dakotacraft9672 5 жыл бұрын
So insightful Rachel. Thank you for bringing this to light. It’s so hard trying to figure out if some are antique or reproduction. As there are some talent doll artist. Side note, you and I have the same scar on our chest. Thanks for the hard work you do!
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@gwencarroll8034
@gwencarroll8034 4 жыл бұрын
Dakota Craft l
@1dianep
@1dianep 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thank you Rachel & Linda.
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thank you for tuning in!
@goatsandroses4258
@goatsandroses4258 2 жыл бұрын
I've been collecting dolls basically my whole life. I'm in my 50s and still there are occasionally dolls that will make me second-guess myself. I tend to stay with middle-of-the-road German and French bisques, with a few modest French fashions, and in the past decade I've seen mold numbers and even body styles (true antiques) that I never saw when I first started collecting. There really is a steep learning curve in doll collecting. Still the hobby has come a LONG way in terms of our knowledge and in striving for greater authenticity in costuming.
@Bedtime_Bunny
@Bedtime_Bunny 3 жыл бұрын
I collect much more recent dolls (from the 80s & 90s) but this was so interesting. Thank you for sharing your lovely dolls! I love their character & expressions! 💖
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@danielreider3021
@danielreider3021 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 24” porcelain doll made by Donna Rubert, I purchased her from the antique shop in my hometown but I purchased her because she felt lonely and sad, people ignored her. I know that sounds crazy
@wiz624
@wiz624 3 жыл бұрын
A BIG THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU for this very educational video!
@Joy-y31
@Joy-y31 3 жыл бұрын
Goodness, I fall for fake antiques before. Thanks for making this video.
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@treelore5100
@treelore5100 3 жыл бұрын
even Theriaults have been fooled. I remember a very early wooden doll that sold for a small fortune and later the artist herself recognized the doll she had created! I mean this doll sold for a lot - At least 25,000 may have been way more (just a guess from memory) was of course amazingly preserved! from what I know the artist contacted Theriaults and told them and they no doubt contacted the buyer. I wonder how they worked that one out.
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when that happened, and I felt for everyone involved. It happens to everyone at some point. I think it was returned, refund given, and as I remember, they handled it professionally and transparently.
@treelore5100
@treelore5100 3 жыл бұрын
@@RachelHoffmanDolls the doll was signed originally, you would think someone would find it. I'm sure the buyer misses that doll! was a lovely artist made doll and very well done antique look. But it must have been a big shock. So much excitement of bidding and getting such a very rare doll.
@KellyAspinall
@KellyAspinall 3 жыл бұрын
These dolls must have been very top quality back when the originals were new...the quality of even these reproductions are beautiful to me. Like you said in the beginning...It would be one thing if they were sold for a lower price, instead of passing for the very high end versions.
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed this!
@annikaaasav9365
@annikaaasav9365 3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this video! after watching it i realized that i can have antique looking doll as reproduction and i very fast find the perfect match for me. I`m too exited🥰😘😍
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Reproduction dolls are great, too! You just need to know what you have. Enjoy!
@davidbrienlantry8760
@davidbrienlantry8760 3 жыл бұрын
This has been very helpful!
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@emiliabevo
@emiliabevo 4 жыл бұрын
I have a doll and she has really old fabric and hair made out of a horses mane, is she real?
@katjamatroeschka5326
@katjamatroeschka5326 3 жыл бұрын
Rachel, thanks a lot for this interesting video! I am collecting Gebrüder Heubach dolls and therefore curious to know, if you have ever seen the list of standard head sizes of this manufacturer? Usually the stamp at the back corresponds to the mold and to the head size as well. I am searching for this information desperately. Greetings from Germany!
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm I bet it is in the Collector's Encyclopedia of Dolls!
@babysisdolls3336
@babysisdolls3336 4 жыл бұрын
so important i want to collect antique black brown bisque but afraid of fakes.
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 4 жыл бұрын
If you purchase from reputable dealers, you should be safe!
@dubiousjesse
@dubiousjesse Жыл бұрын
I just bought a cloth doll that looks vintage with ceramic hands and feet. It has no id and the clothes cannot come off to identify if it would be worth anything. Only $2 at a thrift store.
@kristalynn7877
@kristalynn7877 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t an antique lose their coloring by being exposed to too much sunlight?
@jennayoung99
@jennayoung99 4 жыл бұрын
Id love to see differences in real and reproduction german china head dolls.
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea! Thanks for tuning in!
@michaelmcgee8543
@michaelmcgee8543 4 жыл бұрын
Got out of sync near the end . I got a replica of a pale curly black hair civil war doll. These doll are usually dime a dozen since they are made a lot.
@Elizabeth_nilges_
@Elizabeth_nilges_ 5 жыл бұрын
can you help me i have a made in Germany 310 aom doll with a signature of edith can you tell me if she is real
@lucylu376
@lucylu376 3 жыл бұрын
That one probably is a reproduction if it has a name on it aside from the germany mark
@joanmcclellan4767
@joanmcclellan4767 2 жыл бұрын
do you have a video on Antique China doll repros & originals?
@buckdog225
@buckdog225 11 ай бұрын
I got a antique bisque doll from eBay auction she said it’s from 1894 would love to know if it’s real it had a 8-0 on it
@Nancy-jn3kd
@Nancy-jn3kd 4 жыл бұрын
Please explain Hard Plastic Disease in dolls and what to do about the problem. Thanks Nancy
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video idea!
@Nancy-jn3kd
@Nancy-jn3kd 4 жыл бұрын
Rachel Hoffman You are quite welcome! Also would like to know the price of a rabbit fur jacket for my vintage Terri Lee Doll I received for Christmas! She is like new, but the rabbit fur lined with red material deteriorated. I still love her so much just like the magical Christmas morning in 1950. Thank you, Nancy Pfender, Evansville, IN Email: pfender13@icloud.com or Raintreecounty1@gmail.com. Thank you so much! Nancy
@Nancy-jn3kd
@Nancy-jn3kd 4 жыл бұрын
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@Nancy-jn3kd
@Nancy-jn3kd 4 жыл бұрын
Price of Terri Lee Rabbit Fur jacket lined with red material for Terri Lee vintage Trrri Lee Doll for a a Winter Snow suit .
@tonythorn2067
@tonythorn2067 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a little girl in a little blue hat and a yallow shirt with her holding red some kind of thing and see has letter cn her shirt
@imj851
@imj851 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on cleaning a porcelain doll because I can’t get the stains off the face of mines she has smudges on her face
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! We have lots of cleaning videos on our channel. Search “cleaning” on my channel videos and you’ll come up with at least two or three. Good luck and thank you for watching!
@eward9499
@eward9499 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good lesson!
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@infanta245Vegan
@infanta245Vegan Жыл бұрын
I always. can tell them apart. simply is that, the antique one always have same oval shape face and typical eurocentric facial features, which was a beauty standard of those day - the type of face I would call " a young version of Queen Catherine of Prussia. in the same time the antique dolls tend to look more like robot without life since those days these dolls were mean to be a toy for kid. So they are giving an expression of being a real doll toy. Unlike a fake modern dolls are always come in different type of face and are slightly exotic with facial features that people like nowadays. For example, thick lips, big Chinese cheekbone, board nose or wide set eye etc. They are also look more realistic close to human than to the antique doll because of more advance in technique, better tools, materials and better colour etc. The modern doll makers are also like to make doll to look beautiful as possible, these dolls are handmade not from the factory like antique doll. Overally modern doll or fake doll are look more lively, fresh and realistic and lesser creepy compare to the real antique doll.
@cracramagness5069
@cracramagness5069 Жыл бұрын
where do i go to check if my dolls are fake or real? like a site for serial numbers for dolls where do i find one
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls Жыл бұрын
You should post it in a Doll identification group on Facebook. The members inside them will tell you.
@mamaribear2
@mamaribear2 2 жыл бұрын
This video was really good. I'm researching a heubach doll for a friend and came across one that sold at action for $2600. Comparing photos with mine and all the info in this video the one that sold looks like a fake. 😬
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure to have a professional or a couple of professionals look at it before making this determination. There is always an exception, and it takes decades of experience to tell quickly. Don’t just take this video’s word for it, have a professional give their opinion. You’ll have to hire someone (it’s not free), but it’s worth it.
@kuma9355
@kuma9355 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a Peter Playpal reproduction. I bought him from a reputable small seller, he came with an Ashton Drake tag, and I believe he was released in 1980 (supposedly the time when the series was revived) as opposed to the earlier, original 1960 release. Would he be considered not authentic, or simply a re-issue?
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 4 жыл бұрын
Bel Ucre A reissue is completely legit and not considered “fake” or a fraud - as long as it is sold as a reissue.
@kuma9355
@kuma9355 4 жыл бұрын
@@RachelHoffmanDolls Thank you so much! I feel so assured. Yes, he was sold as a reproduction (reissue) of the 1960 dolls.
@tammyweddington1537
@tammyweddington1537 3 жыл бұрын
I have a old heinrich and Hanover it says germany above the names and. #8 I still can't tell if she real or fake I got her from my Aunt who collected dolls I know nothing.
@Nancymarie410
@Nancymarie410 3 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted to learn how to make dolls.
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
There are a ton of resources online, you can learn! Can't wait to see what you make.
@sarahhouston6560
@sarahhouston6560 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty , thank you,
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@scottoliver9428
@scottoliver9428 Жыл бұрын
I have a lot of doll mold of all sizes is there a market for them?
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls Жыл бұрын
Not that I have found.
@neilcarlson72
@neilcarlson72 2 жыл бұрын
What I do, that's useful for studying is just go to eBay. Just look at the varies dolls for sale. Look at the repro ones and compare them to the real ones. The eyebrows are the biggest giveaway. Plus there that certain something that just lacking in most repros. There's a lot of sites to go to for studying dolls. I have a few repros in my collections. They're actually done fairly well. One of them is a beautiful Bru. But when you compare them to genuine dolls. The bisque just doesn't look the same. There's a newness about them. I'm also a coin collector, so I have 2 hobbies with fakes to watch out for. LOL
@Nancymarie410
@Nancymarie410 3 жыл бұрын
Omg if I lived there, you would never get rid of me😂
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed this!
@merlin3164
@merlin3164 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my first doll a few weeks ago. Something about her just called to me. I know she's a fake but I just had to have her.
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!!! It doesn’t matter as long as you know. Liking the doll is what matters. Hope you have many more!
@strawberriez9328
@strawberriez9328 Жыл бұрын
I’m too lazy to check that so I’m just going to buy ones that have dates on them and if I don’t know the date I’m not buying it cause it could be fake.
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls Жыл бұрын
That works, too.
@loriwelty4861
@loriwelty4861 Жыл бұрын
I have some vintage dolls that I would love to show you. Can I send you some pics of them
@Cominginhottt
@Cominginhottt 8 ай бұрын
I have a doll that I can't find any details on she belonged to my friends grandma and when she died I inherited the doll I was told she's a Holocaust doll and has markings on back of her head K🔯R (or R🔯R) under that it says Simon × Halbig then under that it says 117 she's very heavy, she has porcelain legs and arms she's in a black dress with red curly hair and she's 36-38" tall. Any ideas for me I'm trying to sell her to someone who would love her and have a good home for her.
@dawnnovak5789
@dawnnovak5789 3 жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of antique dolls
@kellysmith8269
@kellysmith8269 3 жыл бұрын
Is she still teaching?
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
She sure is!
@its_gianna813
@its_gianna813 3 жыл бұрын
Please Please please respond, is there such thing as fraud bye lo baby dolls. Just wondering thank you
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
There are reproduced Bye Lo baby dolls but I doubt they were made to defraud. It’s generally expensive French and German dolls.
@its_gianna813
@its_gianna813 3 жыл бұрын
@@RachelHoffmanDolls oh ok thank you I won an action on ebay with a bye lo and she definitely looks authentic from the 20s. Im new to antique collecting and would hate to have an unoriginal doll and not know it! Btw love your channel im always watching your videos!
@ohadicollies
@ohadicollies Жыл бұрын
Just looked at your video and you mentioned French Fashion. Do you have a video of the fake FF? I see an awful lot of FG and think that is an imbalance of the FF population.
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls Жыл бұрын
I don’t have a specific video but I’ll make one someday!
@SilverSparkles22
@SilverSparkles22 3 жыл бұрын
I have a British made antique doll C1916 with molded eyebrows and she is definitely genuine
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome! Thank you for watching!
@SilverSparkles22
@SilverSparkles22 3 жыл бұрын
@@RachelHoffmanDolls Thank you for uploading your videos....I'm learning a lot about dolls which is all new to me and your shop is Amazing! 😊
@misseyespy1
@misseyespy1 4 жыл бұрын
WHAT IS looping on the hair
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 4 жыл бұрын
hmmmm not sure!
@fareedaobrien3112
@fareedaobrien3112 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and helpful thank you
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for tuning in!
@brendaroland5666
@brendaroland5666 3 жыл бұрын
Many China painters make reproduction dolls with no intention to defraud anyone. I am a former reproduction doll maker. I also sign and date my dolls.
@alpha_ghost4983
@alpha_ghost4983 4 жыл бұрын
I have a doll her name is alice she is old from heritage mint 1989 made in taiwan
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 4 жыл бұрын
That is great!
@reiiheartz
@reiiheartz 3 жыл бұрын
I have a antique doll and she has different eyebrows to other antique dolls She is real a real Antique doll
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching!
@molagreen9464
@molagreen9464 2 жыл бұрын
antique doll is gorgeous and looks definitely different than reproduction doll
@VirginiaP-tk4ib
@VirginiaP-tk4ib Жыл бұрын
I just got my first grinnie
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls Жыл бұрын
How wonderful!! Congratulations 🎉
@mikokurniawan1076
@mikokurniawan1076 5 жыл бұрын
I LOVE U 😘✌️✌️
@punkitupmohairjumpers
@punkitupmohairjumpers 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a contact email for free advice on dolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 3 жыл бұрын
No.
@patriciagraves752
@patriciagraves752 2 жыл бұрын
How may I get to you by phone? Letter also. I need a mailing address.
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! We work by e-mail. Feel free to shoot us an email from the about section of our account.
@dancegrant1
@dancegrant1 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but this did not meet my expectations and is probably for a much more advanced audience than myself. So many of your examples were simply spoken about rather than actually shown side by side. It is one thing to just say "look at the color and feel the weight" and another to actually compare colors and weights (and other details). There has to be more than just a certain Je ne sais quoi about telling fakes from the real. Sorry if this sounds impolite, not meant to be.
@RachelHoffmanDolls
@RachelHoffmanDolls Жыл бұрын
It was not meant to be an in-depth presentation but more of a conversation. This off-the-cuff video was filmed live on Facebook inside my doll shop, I added it to KZfaq later.
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