Easily one of the best guides i've seen. Now if we can get one for someone like Zato or maybe Nago that would be amazing. I hope to see more content from you man, amazing work.
@Zetsuuga Жыл бұрын
I would love more of these "how to defend against X" videos. I appreciate the way you use BRC and I think a lot of us could improve our defense.
@thestanman1486 Жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love more stuff like this. Small guides from top players is what the world needs more of.
@benjaminknapp2380 Жыл бұрын
the reason leo's backturned backdash isn't invuln is because he's facing backwards so its actually a forward dash
@pploversuckerandhuffer Жыл бұрын
Then his forward dash (going backwards) should be invuln
@peeziisoda9241 Жыл бұрын
Yo pleeease do more videos like this, this is very insightful. You and LK def got a clear way of explaining things and it helps out a ton.
@Ant_FGC Жыл бұрын
This is probably the best explanation I've seen for this situation. Great vid.
@zechariahcaraballo8765 Жыл бұрын
This is insanely helpful and well made no way u only got 300 subs thats got to be a glitch
@Nevermind0309 Жыл бұрын
Please god, yes, make more counter guides, please please, please. Counter guides are always extremely helpful, not enough of them get made. My gameplay has improved dramatically thanks to counter guides made by other content creators. This video was fantastic, and I'm super excited at the possibility of more!
@serchlight7640 Жыл бұрын
this was actually so welldone and I really liked you explaining to not just guess block for them to be plus but to actually threaten an option that gives u a reward for guessing right to force them to change it up! , and if I HAD to ask for another.......... g o l d l e w i s
I'm just going to copy paste some text i have lying around Midscreen if you FD out one behemoth goldlewis either can overextend with 66 j.d to catch backdash which loses to 6p or high mash He can f.s into another behemoth which are both beaten by backdash (both the f.s and the behemoth that comes after f.s) He can 684 after which depending on spacing can catch backdash and mash but puts him at -5 Or he can do normal>486,normal>Kara 842, as a pressure starter which catches backdash if you try to backdash after c.s and puts him in a lot of advantage so he can run up continue pressure, this you can beat by mashing after c.s If you don't have FD or are just not FD'ing for some reason, normal> Kara 862 has a small gap that can either be grabbed or if you have a fast crouching normal (it's important that it's a crouching normal) you can challenge the gap there even when you FD If the goldlewis has you in a knockdown and does wiff 5p>862/842, you can backdash the 842 always and the 862 if he does it meaty, if he wants to catch backdash with 862 he has to leave a wakeup grab able gap NOW IN THE CORNER Once you've pushed him out enough with FD he has to start either doing Run up f.s/j.d>behemoth, this is beaten by 6p Run up 2d>behemoth, this is beaten by jumping (or 6p if you have a fucking WELL DESIGNED 6p) 6hs>drone, your 6p might clash here so be ready to clash cancel If the behemoth he does after these normals starts with 4 (486,426) you can challenge the gap there with an S normal If it's 268 he does after that will ch your mash attempts but he will be pushed back significantly and has to run in very deep to reestablish pressure which goes back to the f.s/j.d/2d counterplay but with a much much larger gap Be wary that 624 and 684 still all exist and can frametrap from pretty much any plus behemoth at the cost of putting him at disadvantage (unless he has meter lmao)
@Thats_Helpful2 ай бұрын
played a bunch against a leo today.. came here for tips.. I hate and appreciate that you called out everything i did wrong
@Etholux Жыл бұрын
How can I learn really thorough information like this for dealing with other characters? This video paints a very detailed picture of a lot of my and my opponent's options, and I want more sources to learn matchup information like this. It's crazy how much there is to learn and practice!
@AlwaysSunny8193 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video! Thanks Tene 🙂
@M0HAK07 ай бұрын
Wish i saw this earlier. Thanks
@nosnibor-1.0 Жыл бұрын
As a Leo main, this will help me become better too >:)
@shikileaks Жыл бұрын
fantastic dive into the RPS, more vids like this would be sick. as far as defensive guides, i think a primer on how to interact with HC's mid/close-range pressure could be extremely helpful, im always getting smoked by roll and never know when to try and take my turn back. another candidate id like to see is a primer on Zato's Oppose and how to interact with it. great guide, hope to see more vids from you
@ananmaysahu45635 ай бұрын
Roll is really hard to deal with cause it takes like a total 15 frames to cross up so its unreactable, but it also unfocuses the gun so it will actually take like 20 frames to actually hit you. My recommendation is if you see a blue blur nesr the ground just blindly press 2K
@sasukedavid9248 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic.
@karue7581 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Was always happy to see you playing in tournaments, and I'm excited for the content!
@NerdyJedi Жыл бұрын
More defense guides like this would be great!!
@LuketheNuke-qb8il Жыл бұрын
as a leo player i am going to use this knowledge to become even more powerful
@Fishe0ne Жыл бұрын
Love this type of content. Very clear guide. Thanks for sharing can’t wait for what’s next.
@zabatasd94616 ай бұрын
Thanks Jerry
@TheLoneAlpaca Жыл бұрын
As a Zato player who has been panicking and getting opened up by every character, defense guides are the things I didn’t know I needed.. I-no next? 😅
@shikileaks Жыл бұрын
Diaphone has a guide to I-No's Advanced Offense that goes into detail about it, it's pretty easy to reverse engineer what he says to figure out what options you have as the defender
@TheLoneAlpaca Жыл бұрын
@@shikileaks thanks gamer
@shikileaks Жыл бұрын
@@TheLoneAlpaca go smoke they asses
@subi7o3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@underware_pr Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this guide! Also glad to see you on KZfaq too!!
@JuiceyStain Жыл бұрын
I would love to see other videos like this from you. This video was really useful.
@777eugeneo Жыл бұрын
More of this pls Jonathan!!! great stuff!!!!
@guyperson6527 Жыл бұрын
this was great cant wait for more
@ryanflipski3297 Жыл бұрын
Love to see you posting guides! Would love to see you teach some zato tech, as there is only a few guides and they only go so deep
@joshurawr Жыл бұрын
Yeah this was phenomenal
@darkcrow4061 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@little_tater_tot Жыл бұрын
this is so helpful please do more like this
@Luv-dq5th Жыл бұрын
I have never seen backturn P until today
@gather959 Жыл бұрын
This is an amazing guide. I'd love to see more content like this. Especially angi. I know he's bad, but I have no idea what's going on alot so he's my worst match up.
@JoeProton Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, everything I needed and more
@OldManSilencer Жыл бұрын
I actually play leo as a tertiary character that I even dabbled with as a tournament counter pick for a few match ups and didn't know some of the things in here. I can confirm this is best practice against his options and common situations. one thing that wasn't said that will be useful to most of the players in the comments but isn't relevant to tournament players really is that several of his meaties/setups are raw timed and easy to mess up most mid and low level leos will mess them up enough to get woken up thrown pretty easily. his throw set up for cross up and otg dash through and all those kinds of tricks are hard to beat wake up throw with also if he doesn't dash through immediately on his hdp when he lands wake up throw a lot of leos miss time it and hope you don't notice but once you start looking for it it's pretty easy to spot. having a strategy built around your opponent messing up isn't good for higher level players but just knowing to look for those kinds of things will help vs most celestial leo players who on average aren't very good but just rely on players not knowing how their character works because he's got unique options.
@spacecat275 Жыл бұрын
Excellent guide
@Alexander-pq2pr Жыл бұрын
What would a character like Millia do in this situation since she has a 4 frame backdash? Its pretty hard to have frame perfect timing in this situation, would you recommend something different with these characters?
@jonathantene944 Жыл бұрын
The further away leo is, the less actives of bt.H are actually connecting, so if you've FDed something like bt.S already it's worth going for even with a 4f invul backdash
@noobshadi4324 Жыл бұрын
Amazing guide!
@shiwanmi Жыл бұрын
Lovely guide! Side note, your description text is incomplete.
@Apa-is2jz Жыл бұрын
Very good video thank you
@cica2000 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@serchlight7640 Жыл бұрын
bless up
@Youbuu2 Жыл бұрын
Please upload more
@14megasxlr Жыл бұрын
"How to navigate Nago's pressure" pls. I need it.
@D4C_267 Жыл бұрын
Why has he not been nerfed yet. Favoritism from the developers?
@My_Mad_Mind Жыл бұрын
Is YRC good vs backstance? I mean, we already spending meter to fd it, maybe it is fine to YRC?
@charnor27273 ай бұрын
It can be, since it will kick the Leo out of stance if it hits.
@bencegergohocz5988 Жыл бұрын
Way to few people make "how to defend against" type guides despite this information mattering to ever player of every character, not just like 5% of players. I'm surprised you picked this instead of a Zato something something as your first proper video.
@ellisdecker1082 Жыл бұрын
❤️ 𝓟Ř𝔬𝓂𝔬𝐒ϻ
@Luv-dq5th Жыл бұрын
DO NOT MAKE ONE OF THESE FOR ANJI PLEASE
@sonictrain1 Жыл бұрын
Nah he jsut made this to taunt people whjen they get smoked by the infinite gatling routes only covering back turn either your character has what it takes to deal with it or your in the corner and fucked anyways. I'm pissed off