Titanic: A Question of Murder 1983

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When the Titanic sank in 1912, more than 1,500 people were killed. In this, the first full-scale television investigation of the tragedy, award-winning journalist Peter Williams presents startling evidence about how hundreds might have been saved. Blueprints and other archival material build a case against the ship's owners. Interviews with survivors recall the victims--crew members, immigrants, and millionaires.
The Titanic was a British passenger liner that sank in the North Atlantic Ocean on April 15, 1912, after colliding with an iceberg during her maiden voyage from Southampton, England to New Your City. There were 1,514 people that drowned in one of the deadliest peacetime maritime disasters in history. "The Unsinkable Titanic" sunk and today the story lives on in fans of those who love this great ship and it's history.
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@titanicfilmsbymark 2 жыл бұрын

I hope that you enjoy the film and thank you for watching. Please subscribe, like, and comment. Please check out my Dailymotion Channel at www.dailymotion.com/TitanicDocsbyMark God bless you and Blessings Mark.

@lune78 2 жыл бұрын

It's so crazy to think that those people were actually on the Titanic. And now all of them are gone. There is not one survivor left.

@ramatgan1 Жыл бұрын

Just to think whilst the Titanic was being built. That Iceberg already broke off and it was heading south. It was a moonless sky that night. Pitch black. The waters were dead calm. The Titanic was doomed from the start.

@GFY127 Жыл бұрын

Yeah crazy how people die before the age of 110+ Talk about unheard-of

@maria-melek Жыл бұрын

@@ramatgan1It was almost like payback or something for calling something so easily destructible, indestructible.

@lw3646 Жыл бұрын

That's why it was so important to get a record of their stories and testimonies. There's still a lot of confusion about that night but once you sort through all the stories you build up the true picture.

@sirandrelefaedelinoge Жыл бұрын

Basic mathematics...

@CaliPatriot88 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting to see a documentary on the ship before the wreck was re-discovered in 1985.

@fmyoung Жыл бұрын

As she was leaving Southampton harbor, the Titanic almost collided with another ship. The powerful undertow from her engines was enough to cause the other ship to break all her six moorings and drift towards the Titanic's stern. It came down to as little as twelve feet between both ships when Capt. Smith finally ordered a sudden burst from his port engine and nearby tugs rushed over to help. If the two ships had actually collided, then help would have been immediately available to rescue everyone. Now, finally, what was the Titanic's final destination? New York. What was the name of the ship the Titanic almost collided with? New York. Isn't that quite something.... :-l

@08C6PaceCar 11 ай бұрын

Doing a seance (which are fake) to try to tell this poor woman she could communicate with her father is unconscionable.

@sookie4195 2 ай бұрын

Yet it brought her peace ☮️

@fmyoung Жыл бұрын

I like what Eva Hart once said about the tragedy, namely that the Titanic "will go down in history as the one disaster for which there was no excuse for anyone to die."

@thewkovacs316 11 ай бұрын

the costa concordia says "hold my beer"

@serendpity3478 11 ай бұрын

Frank Prentice was a remarkable 18 year old. One with the courage & honour to remain at his post, helping everyone he could help to survive, while knowing that he was facing almost certain death. And he became a remarkable 80 year old. Still courageous enough to speak the truth. Meanwhile, more men from First Class survived than did women & children from Third Class.

@sookie4195 2 ай бұрын

You could tell how this disaster affected Mr. Prentice.

@lw3646 Жыл бұрын

Lots more survivors still alive back in 1986. They help make it real and not just history like it is more now.

@jameslongstreet9259 11 ай бұрын

Ahhh...those '80ties documentaries. Plenty of people around, alive and well who remember what happended in the 1910s. Pure gold 🙂

@Aaliyahchannel2024 11 ай бұрын

This was made in 1979.

@Flagg1991 2 жыл бұрын

I had this on VHS when I was a kid. It was pretty great to see it again.

@titanicfilmsbymark 2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome

@redfield4759 2 жыл бұрын

Same!!

@kimgrant3879 11 ай бұрын

same

@richiehoyt8487 2 жыл бұрын

Such a sweet little girl at 23:42! - Almost had me tearing up, lol! (I suppose she must be about 50 now?) I expect she thought she'd lived down this film nearly 40 years ago; if so, she reckoned without the 'World Wide Web', and KZfaq!

@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын

A clairvoyant says she sees a mother holding her child while taking the child to bed? That a father the old lady would barely remember was talkative? I know a few people are genuinely clairvoyant but so many aren't, and they make me very angry as they leach off the grief and hope off people who are still suffering. My mother was the most accurate clairvoyant I ever met. I don't think she ever charged, only doing it for free for family and friends before seeing something she didn't like in her best friend's palm (which she didn't tell the woman. It seems it couldn't have been changed). My mother never used divination after that and to pray to God and God alone. When she was previously doing it though she never came out with generalised nonsense. She was always amazingly specific and I never knew her be wrong.

@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын

@Daisy Mae No idea. I wasn't there and would only have been a child at the time. My mother didn't want to continue talking about it. She was explaining why she stopped doing it.

@derrekOTR 2 жыл бұрын

I like these hard to find short programs. Picture quality is terrific for its source material. I wish there was someone on here this committed to finding rare Indycar material as Mark is with his channel. I’d have everything I like. 🙂

@glamdolly30 Ай бұрын

23:42 That precious little girl crying about the 'Titanic' victims. She's only a tot, but already has powerful empathy and emotional intelligence. Her parents raised her well.

@Gwaithmir Ай бұрын

During the mid-1980's I bought this program on VHS for my video collection. I have it on DVD now.

@mtdouthit1291 Ай бұрын

So great seeing Titanic research/fascination pre 1997 movie. Pure nostalgia, fascination, research, books, illustrations, conventions, eyewitnesses, and authenticity. Nowadays everyone automatically just thinks of the 1997 movie, Jack, Rose, and James Cameron. Sigh.

@bruceholroyd7063 11 ай бұрын

I remember this documentary from PBS in 1982. I attended the Philadelphia Convention of THS that year at the Holiday Inn, Center City! I met the survivors shown in this video and still have their signatures in my illustrated copy of Walter Lord's "A Night to Remember!"

@titanicfilmsbymark 11 ай бұрын

That's awesome. What a memory

@sookie4195 2 ай бұрын

I’m sure their signatures are valuable to a collector.

@michealwilkinson1127 2 жыл бұрын

If ismay thought that life boats weren’t important then why hop on one when your ship is going down

@lw3646 Жыл бұрын

The ship was thought to be a life boat itself, they couldn't imagine so many compartments flooding.

@KimbaIke 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve recently become fascinated by the Titanic and this is a great find! Thanks for uploading!

@eperon 2 жыл бұрын

Once again- another excellently done film by Mark! ❤️

@titanicfilmsbymark 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't do the film, it's from my collection and I wanted to share. Take care.

@Jeff-uj8xi 2 жыл бұрын

The people who caused this to happen; not enough lifeboats for all,, ignoring ice warnings, speeding in an area with icebergs, not enough binoculars for the look-outs, poor construction of the ship, shutting off the wireless on a nearby ship that could have saved hundreds of lives, letting lifeboats not full be lowered into the ocean; those people should have gone to prison and been charged with murder.

@daphneduryea9136 2 жыл бұрын

Captain Smith's plan was to load the men at the gangway doors. Didn't work out because the men manning the boats rowed away. Here's a clip of Boxhall on the BBC. He said Captain Smith ordered him to go around the ship to the aft gangway. Boxhall said there were mobs of men & he thought they'd swamp his boat. A lot of people want to blame Lightoller for the failed gangway plan but it was actually Captain Smith's idea. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rKqRn7qXu9Cydmw.html

@ramatgan1 Жыл бұрын

@lw3646 Жыл бұрын

Disagree, It's not clear any ship of that time could have survived hitting that iceberg the way the Titanic did though, the watertight doors were state of the art for the time, £1.5 million was spent on building her, she really would have been the most advanced ship of her time. The crew on the whole did their best to launch the lifeboats and summon help, most died on the night doing it, they launched flares and rockets to try and attract assistance. There hadn't been a major iceberg collision since the 1870s, and conditions on the night made them extremely difficult to spot and it wasn't unusual to have to navigate through them. One problem on the night was passengers initially wouldn't get into the life boats because the ship felt safe and they wouldn't believe it would sink. Carrying more lifeboats probably wouldn't have helped either as the crew didn't even have time at the end to properly launch the 17th and 18th ones, never mind another 30 before it was all over. What would have helped that night after the collision was mandatory 24 hour wireless operation on all ships. The SS Californian would have quickly arrived to help.

@notmanynamesleft Жыл бұрын

Don't forget setting sail whilst the ship was on fire!

@iamhungey12345 Жыл бұрын

@@notmanynamesleft Elaborate?

@michaellomeli8096 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark. This Is A GOOD documentary To. I lost The VHS Tape To This One To. It Was A 2 Tape Set. Thanks Again Mark. Keep Them Coming.

@Joaquin602001 Жыл бұрын

Such a fascinating documentary to watch today, with the more recent developments about the ship and sinking that we now know and especially considering it was several years before the ship was found. The survivors here were talking about her breaking apart. One main thing I find interesting is the debate about lifeboats; I remember reading a while ago that the board of trade requirements were the biggest factor in the lack of boats, and that the common acceptance of lifeboats being used to ferry people from a stricken ship to a rescuer prevented more from being installed. The reason this was accepted? That exact scenario had played out only a few years earlier with a successful evacuation and rescue from an ocean liner. The White Star Line can hardly be singled out and blamed for the lifeboats when it was the de-facto rescue practice across the whole shipping industry.

@Satanclaus34 11 ай бұрын

More than that, Titanic carried more lifeboats than guidelines prescribed to

@RickL_was_here 11 ай бұрын

Especially now with the Titan incident....

@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a more inappropriate word than 'romantic'?!

@philster611-ih8te 7 күн бұрын

Frank Prentice getting off the Titanic was as dramatic as the ship sinking itself, He was among the people who actually jumped off the stern as it was pointing towards the sky.. By good fortune he missed the debris which seriously injured one of his fellow crew members who eventually succumbed. He swam in the frigid waters towards a lifeboat and made it onboard, he was hypothermic but due to a passenger giving him some clothing he eventually warmed and recovered.

@08C6PaceCar 11 ай бұрын

No life boat drills…. Complete and utter abdication of duty.

@thewkovacs316 11 ай бұрын

it wasnt like they didnt have time to run them they simply wanted to cut costs of training same way they cut costs by paying the telegraph agents a pittance..they pretty much worked on tips from the passengers

@gokulgopan4397 Ай бұрын

@@thewkovacs316it was a crew mustering to their stations that was cancelled. The Marconi operators were employed by Marconi company.

@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@RealTigress 11 ай бұрын

The ships back then were really beautiful. Now they’re mega ginormous with all the bells and whistles but still look like floating office buildings, not beautiful at all. It’s just not the same. All those old white star ships were very majestic looking. One thing I didn’t like on Titanic was 4 stacks, thought it was too much. It’s still unbelievable that happened, even 100+ years later

@davidharrington50 Жыл бұрын

They should have never said the ship was water tight because it wasn't, if water can go to the top and go to the next one, how they claim it was unsinkable, they lied

@kimgrant3879 11 ай бұрын

agree. the compartments weren't capped off

@gokulgopan4397 Ай бұрын

The compartments didn't have to closed at the top. It's a passenger ship not a battleship. It needs crew and passenger passages, ventilation etc. Flooding Internal water doesn't go above external waterline. As it levels, the ship stays buoyant. Titanic could achieve this buoyancy with first 4 compartments flooded. But that night, 6 compartments were flooded which added more water. This extra weight of water pulled the ship further down, thus getting the watertight bulkheads below waterline.

@krispymac11 11 ай бұрын

5:50 “ the ship had everything”………………. Except enough lifeboats.

@ramatgan1 Жыл бұрын

@titanicfilmsbymark Жыл бұрын

Very true

@lw3646 Жыл бұрын

The Titanic was originally meant to launch in January 1912.

@maria-melek Жыл бұрын

@@lw3646What? The ship? Or a remodel of it?

@brandonwilliams966 Жыл бұрын

@@lw3646 2012?

@lw3646 Жыл бұрын

@@brandonwilliams966 sorry, typo

@lelouchvibritannia4028 11 ай бұрын

"Unsinkable Ship" They truly were arrogant. For anyone reading this, it doesn't matter if you believe in God or not, but that right there is certainly challenging a higher power. Human pride and greed are so destructive. So many innocent lives could've been saved. What an awful way to go.

@S.Hunter279 Ай бұрын

3:00 32 boats could have saved 1920 passengers, thus minimizing the loss of life.

@sookie4195 2 ай бұрын

With 1,500+ souls lost, I wonder what the long term effects have been on the world? Possibly someone died that could have cured cancer.

@ToreDL87 6 ай бұрын

Practically unsinkable doesn't mean literally unsinkable, so no karma there. She was built to withstand anything they could conjure up, anything they had experienced up until then, i.e, practically unsinkable. Sailing straight into an ice field at night = More than her builders could conjure up, so anything was up to grabs. Purportedly it was common procedure at the time, so could have happened with any ship larger than rudder could turn in situations like that, That icefield was so abnormally thick the fresh water mixing with the salt water meant there were practically no waves, plus moonless night, meaning other ships went "oh h*ll no" and stopped. IMO it was negligence and incompetence at sea, not shipbuilding, for civilian ships the Olympic class was technical marvels of their time as attested to by pretty much everyone. Edit: Also, take any civilian ship, new or old, and compromise 1/3rd of their length to the sea = Titanic V2.0

@Velomanable Жыл бұрын

35'000 tons? Supposed to have know the facts she was near 46'000 without the passengers plus cargo

@plantstrong9876 Жыл бұрын

If titanic had 48 lifeboats more lives would have been lost. Also the last two lifeboats collapsible a and b. The last two lifeboat didn’t get off the ship by titanic lifeboat davits. The lifeboats were swept off the ship.

@davidharrington50 Жыл бұрын

I know they were so young, they can't remember a ship going down and just repeat what they do hv been told

@JoeyMartz Жыл бұрын

Eva Hart remembered.

@sookie4195 2 ай бұрын

Something so terrifying would be remembered by even a small child. I have memories from when I was two and three years old. However, brief they are.

@rentslave Жыл бұрын

R.I.P. $.

@lw3646 Жыл бұрын

I'm not totally convinced it would have helped save a lot more lives. The Titanic only had 2 hours before it sank, in that time the crew barely had time to launch all the lifeboats they actually had before it went under. The ship rose to such a height to at the end passengers and crew could only cling onto it, it needs to be more level or even to launch the boats.

@robertpaulson2052 Жыл бұрын

You're actually on to something. I think James Cameron, who has actually done quite a bit of original research on the topic, came to a similar conclusion. They weren't even able to get all of the boats that they did have off before it sank. I doubt having 48 boats on board would have done anything more than add 32 more boats to the bottom of the atlantic

@thewkovacs316 11 ай бұрын

had they immediately started loading people on the life boats when the ship started taking water, they could have saved most, with a full contingent of life boats and training

@robertpaulson2052 11 ай бұрын

@@thewkovacs316 Somewhat doubtful of that. It's not like they were dillydallying, they had to actually make assessments of what was going on and make a decision. It's not like loading people into lifeboats to be lowered down to the frigid north atlantic doesn't come with it's own safety risks, so you don't do it at the drop of a hat, you would want to assess the situation. Additionally, if they didn't have enough lifeboats by like 50% or whatever it is I've heard, I don't think they could've just doubled their speed at filling and releasing lifeboats. You also can't always just go faster without causing a problem that ultimately costs you more time than if you had just done it at a methodical pace (haste makes waste as they say)

@thewkovacs316 11 ай бұрын

@@robertpaulson2052 that's what they said with the costa concordia....killed 32 peoplea

@robertpaulson2052 11 ай бұрын

@@thewkovacs316 What's what they said? The costa concordia was quite a different situation. The crew of the Titanic all acted to the best of their ability to save lives. They coordinated a response. The Costa Concordia was a shitshow of incompetence, cowardice, and zero coordination.

@JoshP037 Жыл бұрын

Was George Thomas related to Danny Thomas? They were both Lebanese-American.

@deepakirkal6551 10 ай бұрын

Always read comments...I got reference of this documentary there 🤓

@thewkovacs316 11 ай бұрын

the use of iron rivets doomed the ship

@fmyoung Жыл бұрын

Because of a coal strike in Britain at the time and because April was part of the slack season, the Titanic was only about two-thirds full :-l

@Vingul 11 ай бұрын

That's a good thing, wouldn't you say?

@jamesepperson5940 11 ай бұрын

A lot of misinformation in this documentary. The one guy says they were out to break a record going full speed which isn’t true. The ship didn’t slow down because they were only 2/3 full of coal and slowing down and speeding back up would take too much coal. Also it was common practice back then to go full speed through ice which is kind of surprising

@thewkovacs316 11 ай бұрын

this is also not completely true they were using bad coal...so bad that it caught fire and weakened the hull there was a coal strike when they launched was not common practice to go full speed through ice....the carpathian had slowed down, which is why it was so far from the titanic the californian had come to a full stop running slower would not have used up more coal and the captain was indeed set on beating a sister ship's time to new york

@gokulgopan4397 Ай бұрын

@@thewkovacs316any video would catch fire spontaneously. Carpathia stopped because they were immediately surrounded by icefield. Titanic hasn't met one yet. As testified by other captains, it was SOP to maintain speed and pass potential dangerous waters as fast as they could and only stop if they saw something serious. They didn't need to speed up to beat Olympic, because Titanic's performance without much push was already doing better than Olympic.

@liamodriscoll3739 Жыл бұрын

ALL DECEASED VICTIMS R I P AMEN ❤

@notmanynamesleft Жыл бұрын

Should never have set sail this ship,she was on fire before they even departed!

@dovetonsturdee7033 Жыл бұрын

Do you seriously think (if, indeed you do think at all) that Smith would have sailed had there really been a serious fire aboard? He had been a Master Mariner since 1887, and, it seems, people from that time were rather less foolish & gullible than they are today.

@Joaquin602001 Жыл бұрын

Coal fires were common on ships back then, and they had no effect on the Titanic’s hull strength or seaworthiness.

@davidharrington50 Жыл бұрын

If only the ones who made it known, the 3rd class was locked in. I wonder what they would say, they proved it was true when we went back to see if the gates were locked and they were, that's murder and nobody even knew they left the in to never have a chance, how a human can do that, I never will understand

@Dizzy19. Жыл бұрын

The gates below decks were between passengers and crew. No one was locked in anywhere.

@davidharrington50 Жыл бұрын

@@Dizzy19. that's what they always wanted to know, they found out they all were locked, they can never send a robot past those gates but I know what I'm talking about because u have never talked to anyone who has seen the ship and has been there, I have but you watch movies, I know what happened the ones who were lucky enough to get up above before they started locking the gates and they had to be told. They never had a chance. The ones who got out as soon as they knew something was wrong, they saved their kids and family but u done watch the movie and believe it. People who lived said they were locked in but who could prove it. They did and if u was in the ship and didn't get out fast enough u would have seen u had nowhere to go and u waited to late but u wasn't on it, if someone told them what they really did, they would never say that because they wanted heroes, who could ever find the ship that deep but u don't think they looked and it's sad to know they didn't care about if they could have a chance. Nobody wanted to find those gates locked and u act like this was a little ship and u said one gate was open, I guess it was so big they didn't have time to lock it so did everyone just go out the one gate. When you find gates locked u know they should have never been locked, that's a huge problem because u know what happened, I agree that if you knew that ship and where to walk you could find a way and u could have gotten off but most can't talk English. I a saying I believe the crew was not ready for what was going on and they were afraid themselves and maybe the doors can't be unlocked but yea if I'm 3 Rd class. I'm going 2 learn the ship and know it like the back of my hand and I will get off but this boat can't sink and I believe that's why most died

@Dizzy19. Жыл бұрын

@@davidharrington50 Check the blue prints, there are NO gates/doors between classes below decks.

@gokulgopan4397 Ай бұрын

@@davidharrington50link to footages of wreck dives stopped at gates? Testimonies of Survivors about locked gates?

@JoeyMartz Жыл бұрын

the titanic historical society convention'' event seems to me to be in bad taste... Eapecially having the survivors come... The people interviewed come off as so eager and happy to be there for what is ultimately a tomb for 1500 souls.... Am i alone in feeling this way??

@jessecovington6639 2 жыл бұрын

You can't launch two lifeboats at once how you going to get the people down to the water and the boat once the boats into water you can't very well just stacked people and both people in boat on top of each other and then launch that that little model they made does not test it in a real-world situation or with life-size people in a life size boat much less it's just a coincidence the Titanic sank when the water was calm it's not like the Lifeboat just going to magically drop itself into the water in a hurricane most lifeboats are having to be launched in the middle of a terrible storm that the f****** boat couldn't survive they're oversimplifying this a lot

@Vingul 11 ай бұрын

Try using a comma.

@jessecovington6639 11 ай бұрын

@@Vingul thank you you must be my English teacher there's no way this is just a comment on KZfaq and proper grammar can absolutely not be expected there's no need in being a grammar Nazi when I can bathe the concept and idea I was talking about in a way you could understand I don't really just you know assume people are stupid

@Vingul 11 ай бұрын

@@jessecovington6639 Again: a comma or three, or five, would help.

@russellragan9386 2 жыл бұрын

Lifeboats are a simple matter of designer arrogance and greed. We still have this problem today, especially in China, with their TOFU construction and cutting of other quality and volume metrics in the name of higher profit. Shrinkflation is about to hit an all time high before the real manufactured shortages start. Welcome to 2021 carnage.

@lw3646 2 жыл бұрын

One of the most disturbing things was the way lower class passengers were locked behind gates for US immigration health reasons. When the wreckage was eventually found many of those gates were still locked shut preventing anyone on the wrong side potentially making it up to the deck and the lifeboats.

@dovetonsturdee7033 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but the gates between the third class and the rest of the ship were not locked. The only locked gates ever found on the ship were between the passenger and cargo sections.

@brandonwilliams966 Жыл бұрын

They were not locked behind gates. This is confirmed by passengers of the ship.

@lw3646 Жыл бұрын

@Brandon Williams watch the documentary Secrets of Titanic 1998 which shows some of the deep sea wreckage footage.

@davidharrison1523 Жыл бұрын

The “locked” gates was just to dramatise the movie, but they were not locked in reality. What was a disturbing fact was that the society ladies of the day, were still holding onto the ‘fact’ that Titanic was ‘unsinkable’ & to get into a lifeboat & descend way down into that freezing water, did not persuade many of them to change their minds about not wanting to get into one. Crazy to think that some of those lifeboats rowed away with so few people on board, & the water was so cold, that people who jumped down into it, as the reality that the ship actually was indeed sinking, became apparent, died quickly of hypothermia. It was the same on the Empress of Ireland, when people virtually stepped off the deck of the ship as she sank below them just 15 mins after the collision … so many of them quickly died of hypothermia. Over a thousand died in that one.