It should be pointed out that I have been a lifelong Windows user. I only started using Linux desktop in 2018 as a response to a snarky youtube comment when I started. If you want to see the worst video series on youtube here was my first 30 days on Linux... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbeimsKCrt3cqJc.html WARNING: This was shot on a webcam with ZERO audio/video skills as I just started uploading to KZfaq. I was learning Linux Desktop the same time I was learning KZfaq...

The cool thing about loading fonts via command line is thats is mega fast if you know the commands. The uncool thing about loading fonts via command line is that it's mega slow if you don't remember the commands and need to google the procedure first.

Yeah, I get the point Linus is trying to make. The normal desktop user is never going to want to use the terminal. The only time they even see the terminal is when IT support comes along to do something and they just look on in awe, amazement and fear. The regular desktop user has no interest in knowing how stuff works under the hood. They simply want to click and use.

I thought Linus and Luke did a great job as beginners. To be fair, Luke is on the easier distribution. Linux Mint is easier to use. Mint has a printscreen program built in, just hit printscreen button and save or shift+printscreen for specific area. Mint loads printers automatically, you don't have to install. Mint has great software support, Luke just needed to stay with the sowftware center. Beginners are not going to use CLI. Mint's Celluloid is awesome and hardware accelerated. SMP or mvp do not use hardware acceleration like Celluloid. Mint has startup programs application.

You did everything with terminal, but the main problem is that the normal user don't want to use terminal, GUI is must the normal user.

Most of you completely missed the point presented near the beginning of the video. Doing anything through the terminal and not having a seamless, intuitive GUI alternative, will never allow Linux to gain traction as a mainstream OS for daily driving. Imagine a new person knowing what Dolphin even is. You all are only proving more and more that Linux has no business being in the mainstream space as a daily driver, and why mainstream software development for Linux will probably never take off. I appreciate that Chris did mention he's doing this from a server admin perspective, but that's not most people.

This really felt like it was a "How to do everything in terminal" video I appreciate how fast everything runs that way but can never see myself using it. I appreciate seeing both sides though.

I am new to Linux, I am running KDE Plasma and I must say I am loving this whole series from Linus and Luke's videos, and your follow up videos. I have saved them all to my Linux playlist, and after going through these videos I have answers to things in Linux that I did not think I would find a solution for, plus I get a "what not to do" and "what to do" if a particular issue comes up that I have not encountered yet.

The fact that you have to pull up a terminal everytime is the reason why they did this challenge and also the reason why normal people hate Linux. Luckily, I found Zorin and it is gold!

A lot of people commenting that Chris shouldn't be showing people how to do tasks in terminal because "that's not how the average users does it". Yeah, no, but there's no harm in showing a different approach either. For people willing to learn something new, this video will be a valuable resource. For those who aren't, they can just use the GUI as usual. We can have the best of both worlds, people, they're not mutually exclusive here.

Anybody: "Dolphin" Linux Guys: **snicker** no... just.. haha

I'm a tech enthusiast, I've used terminals before, I have basic programming knowledge, and I still would hate to use my PC over the terminal! Sorry, I know a lot of people like it, but the GUI is so much better for visualizing things. And this is coming from someone who knows how to use the command line, imagine how the average person would feel... I'm glad it works for you guys, but for the rest of us, we really prefer a good visual layout.

I don't think the LTT series is about showing any particular way of doing things. They are showing how the simple prospect of getting Linux installed and basic setup and use isn't nearly as simple and easy as it should be. You are kind of proving the point that it isn't easy for new people to Linux to get up and running with little to zero friction, as most of what you've shown requires already understanding how to do these things.

Best thing out of this video is the glimpse to your build that you're working on! I'm very excited for this.

Cool video, Chris. Basically "hey - terminal isn't so scary!" combined with "there's many ways to do things, all are valid". Good message, all around. OH - also when I was watching their part 3 and Linus was having VLC full screen trouble, the first thing I thought of was that VLC episode and wondered if it was the same issues you were having with it (apparently so).

Copy and paste... easier than in windows 11

great episode. both yours and ltt's. I had to smile. my work was setting up digital certs for windows. lets just say it took a lot longer than 15mins and setting up the certs in a government environment can be challenging....

Fantastic video CTT !! Whilst other did plain old reaction videos you took it one step further.

Saw you in a supercut video on this and came here to see the full version. Learned a lot.

Preview on the Mac can do digital signatures. Since lion (10.7). Which is a decade old. Man I feel so old.

I didn't like your video on the first LTT challenge and was very critical of it, but I like this one. You add on to the experiences Linus and Luke had and share how things are done using the terminal as another option, good stuff.

IMO, the main point of Linus challenge was to point out to Linux community that UX needs to be improved if you want to onboard people on to Linux to increase the adoption of it. Till date, I am using Linux for my workflow flawlessly, at least for me. But I do almost all 99% on GUI, which is required for non tech person

Honestly I was hoping for this. For instance on the sign a PDF I think Luke and Linus were going for two very different versions of signing. But yeah I totally want to see how a Linux user does these tasks. I expect a Linux user will be using a terminal for a lot of it. I mean the link and file moving stuff is super fast on the terminal as a mac user back when OSX started even I know that. But I'm hoping this video also corrects through the gui when possible to show what L&L *could* have done differently.

Really enjoyed this one. I've been a linux user for way longer, but because everyone has their own way of doing things, it's great to see how others setup their workflow. I'm really interested in how you mount your drives, so I'd look forward to seeing more detail on that.

I've only started using Linux recently, I've been on Windows since my parents bought our first computer (Win 95). The roughest time I've had so far (other than choosing Arch and successfully installing on the 3rd try...) was getting my printer to work. I have an Epson EcoTank and using default CUPS drivers just sent a blank page to the printer. I was able to find the right drivers on the AUR and can print just fine now.

Just last night I plugged in my $6 Canon scanner found at Goodwill into my Linux Mint desktop. Nothing popped up like you'd expect in Windows. Wasn't even sure what program I'm supposed to use. So I used the search function in the launcher, found Scanner & BOOM, it recognized the scanner & I was able to scan. I was surprised at how easy it was!

Chris makes linux seem more confusing than it needs to be.

Great commentary, imho. I liked that segment of the Linux Challenge, and watching Linus' obvious joy at printing a document reminded me of when I first started using Linux as a daily driver (mind you, whilst I could print documents, I sure as heck couldn't scan them). I think Chris packed an awful lot of useful information and tips into a short video, and I will come back to again so that I can pick up all of the things I missed in the first viewing.

Comparing to the previous parts of the LTT's Linux Challange, in part 3, Linus and Luke seemed to be more aware that addressing the Linux Community is not the same as demanding something from a company like MS or Apple. They aknowledged the diversity of people (from developers to average users) that are part of the Community. Besides, since Linux Desktop Renaissance in the late 90's, Linux community has grow in average user numbers, more than developers and IT people.

Thanks for posting this video as I wasn't aware "episode III" had been posted. I'll have to check it out. The *only* issue I have with THIS video is, I'm surprised, Mr Titus, that you didn't create and actual "ZIP" file when talking about compressing files. ZIP isn't the best/fastest/most efficient way to compress files but you certainly CAN create actual "ZIP" files on Linux. From the command line, you can use the "zip" and "unzip" commands. They are part of the 'Info-Zip' package, which should already be installed. I'm on Linux Mint 18.3 right now and if I right-click a file and click "Compress", I'm given the option of compressing the file using a variety of different ways (zip, xz, tar.{whatever}, bz2, etc). The cool thing about using ZIP files on Linux is ZIP is pretty much ubiquitous, so sending compressed files to others will most likely be supported by the recipient's system instead of the recipient having to install some tool to decompress what you've sent them. Ok, I'm off to watch episode III! :)

Thank you. What an interesting panel organisation! I have just stopped video and tried to figure out how it's done and which plugins you are using on it.

I really like this video, Chris. As someone who switched from Linux recently, this is very informative!

Windows has the built in snipping tool - win+shift+s pulls up the clipping tool and you can select an area to clip.

I've never heard someone say it out loud before. F-Stab is not what I had in my head. I've always said FS-Tab. I've just assumed it stands for file system table. It's funny how everyone says this kind of stuff differently.

I like the comparisons for how you did those tasks vs how they did it. That's one the greatest things about Linux in that you can do things your way in your own environment and get the same tasks accomplished. Some methods will be faster/easier than others but that's part of the process for sharing how to do things and learning from each other IMO.

Oh! I might fall in love with your window manager! I've been looking for a way to open every application to a specific desktop on startup! That's exactly what you want for streaming: Everything running, everything where you expect it.

Good video. I've been running Qtile on an arch install. This looks interesting I may have to check this out at some point or use some of the components in my current setup.

Great video Chris. What DE / disto are you using? Looks clean!

With screenshots, it's also worth noting that most distros have printscreen bound to a screenshotting tool that allows you to select a few different options - whereas in Windows printscreen grabs the entire screen by default rather than loading the snipping tool (or the tool that's replacing it). IMO this is a far better default behavior since it's pretty rare that anyone actually wants a full screenshot. Both Linus and Luke opted to search for a tool in the app menu, which was perfectly fine but unnecessary.

XSane for using the scanner function of my hp multifunctional that hasn't printed anything in over a decade and is probably completely dry. It works flawlessly every time I have to use it.

I‘d love to see a future video where you go more into depth on how you make use of systemd and how you mount and use your network shares

I'd love a battle, randomised tasks on the spot, it'd highlight that the environment has less impact than skill.

Great video! Here's a success story. I've used GNU/Linux on some older computers before, and finally I worked up the courage to put it on one of my main laptops (Dell XPS 15 9560) a few days ago (thanks to all the Linux content, including you). I went for elementary OS; even though I've used an Arch derivative on one of those older laptops, I simply wanted something that works well using touchpad gestures and had the most appealing out-of-the-box experience to me. The experience is night and day. The performance feels a lot quicker than it used to be with Windows 10. Using elementary OS the fans have been perfectly quiet, and the only time it gets loud is when it was compiling and when I use the dedicated graphics (which I turned off in the NVIDIA Settings because I don't need it that much and prefer the laptop to be quiet most of the time lol). Under Windows it was jet engine right after booting. I like the 1-to-1 touchpad gestures much more too (I'm very used to my M1 Macbook gestures and I kinda need it since then), and I love how you can modify the gestures using vim. I expected the biggest headache to be installing the graphics driver, but it really didn't turn out to be hard at all. I did have the issue where sound from the speakers stopped working when I installed it (headphones did work however), but it was fixed using some Google-fu.

Thank you for saying the scanner stuff because I was shocked that they had no problem while I always get it to work again after I managed to break all of my scanners multiple times. Usually I end up having to reinstall them.

I can understand the negative feelings about part 2. I am not what people consider a linux guy. I will avoid the terminal as much as I can and programming as little as possible because I consider it a job, But when moving to linux, the most important thing in my eyes is to go in fresh. You cannot force yourself to use it in the same way, you have to look for alternatives. The whole of part 2 was the antithesis of this. Luke in part 3 kind of encapsulates it a bit better. Didn't know how, googled to check if he could use the software, he could, otherwise continue googling. Linus was also great because even though he had more hardships. These are hardships that we can realistically understand being a bit knaff

Chris can’t thank you enough. You’ve reignited my love for Linux. I just use it on a limited basis at work (windows shop) and didn’t have time (kids and life) to properly tinker and get into the guts of it like one should. So thank you

Sedja was a new one on me too and I've been using Linux for over 20 years. Spent hours this week messing around with Okular editing a PDF, Sedja would have been much simpler.

@9:20 most desktops by default map "prtscr" to taking a screenshot (prtscr alone for the whole desktop and combinations with ctrl and shift for windows and areas).

Great video. @chris which distro and wm are you using? I like your setup. Looks like maybe Xfce with customizations?

Chris: "This is how I would do it.' Everyone else: "Let me guess, it's the command line!"

8:43 I have a question, I also have flameshot assigned to a key binding as it has more option than the default gnome-screenshot, however after taking the capture flameshot remains an active process in the background wasting RAM if you don't close it manually. The dev said it won't add a --kill option as it will cause issues: _The last three releases had bugs related to close after capture and the interaction between image uploading,notifications, and the clipboard. Also it causes massive confusion that with this option enabled the clipboard cannot work_ _Basically this option added a layer of additional required testing and had unseen interactions with the other parts of Flameshot. I simply did not have the bandwidth to continually support this feature and I would rather focus on core features_ So Chris or anybody else that uses flameshot, do you bind flameshot gui to a key or do you bind a script that launches flameshot and then close it if a file has been saved to ~/screenshots?

Thanks for the tip on Celluloid. I was using VLC player.

Very interesting video, Chris! The way you work on Linux is very practical, in my opinion. I would like to know how you set up NTFS partitions to mount when Linux starts. And finally, I don't know if you've ever made a video about it, but I'd like to see you install Debian from start to finish and then do the customization you currently use.

I like how you show the caveats for Linux. I am not a Dolphin fan either. Chris is the go-to Linux guy big time!

I liked your idea also can you make a more in-depth video about how you do your network shares ?

They did a pretty good job. I don't know why Linus thinks trying to compress a 3GB ALREADY compressed file should take a split second, but oh well. I'm not surprised. Trying to compress something that is already compressed is not a good idea if you have any clue how compression works. Linus's complaint about copying files easily into system directories as a normal user is typical for a windows user however. Security is an after thought, as usual.

Wow what is that status bar you're using? It looks really sick (in a good way)!

I love that LTT has done this series and gotten everyone on all sides of the Win/Mac/Linux debate talking. I feel like it has opened a lot of opportunities with more inexperienced people being interested and more advanced people realizing what needs to happen to make Linux more usable "for the masses." Thank you Chris for giving a balanced review and showing that different ways of performing the same tasks are both possible and valid.

I digitally sign a lot of PDFs on Linux. I signed a sheet of paper, took a photo of it... converted it to a transparent PNG. Then I use the xournal program to open the pdf, attach and resize my signature and then export the result as a new PDF. Many times my resulting PDF is smaller than the original. PDF functionality is not the main purpose of Xournal, but it works really well for me to digitally sign a PDF in Linux.

what desktop or windows manager you using. do you have the configs your using right now. I like the look

Thanks a lot for your help to linux users. Which linux do you use?

Printers are generally fine, however large format copiers tend to have 7-9 drivers of different types. Many times it takes a bit of trial and error to find the proper driver for them. They all generally work, but they may throw out a couple of blank pages on addition to the actual document.

This entire video was just an enormous flex xD

Hi Chris, I am new to Linux. I have pop OS on one of my computers. I watch you and Distro Tube. I have learned a lot from both of you. However the terminal will take a me a while to catch on to . Thank You for your videos .

Love your channel. I am using Linux as my daily driver for a few months now, and i guess I like solving problems. Linux is my daily and gaming OS and I keep Windows just for my music production, since a lot of VST's don't have Linux versions...yet, plus my audio interface works limited in Linux

The thing is if you are daily driving Linux for some time you just never face these little issues mostly those are just one time things (after you know what to do)

What's the top app bar name? Btw as always great video!

You can make a video recommending good programs to use for common use cases like file browser, image viewer, video player, music player, calculator, screenshot taker, etc. There are certain applications that I like on Windows [eg. Q-Dir, MusicBee] that I do not think will be matched by any on Linux.

Hey Chris! Wondering if you could upload those fonts for us to download as a batch? Thanks!

You really should do a video on part 2. They brought up a lot of valid complaints of the linux community and the many issues newer users face. I think the reason you don't want to (and understandably so) is that a lot of their issues will require an in-depth fix for each issue they had which would require a longer than normal video. Even with windows issues when I go to help someone I can't help but think "do I really want to devote my time to this?".

I normally don't watch too much of their stuff, but I enjoyed watching the challenge. It generally highlights how an average user would think of doing tasks in Linux (especially coming from windows). And I think that's why people get discouraged with Linux and go back to windows (I know I've done it several times over the course of 20 years). And really, it's been over nothing more than simple things that should just work - dual displays playing up, files not opening in programs from file manager, resizing a goddamn window because you can't hover over the edge, can't install some apps from the repo's. Yes you can look up fixes for some of these, but really? But it seems the developers are really excelling with some of the releases ATM to entice users over (Like KDE, Manjaro, Zorin OS, Elementary OS etc). Which can only be a good thing IMO. And thanks for the heads up on alternate video players. VLC is one program I've been struggling with in general playing files on Linux (and I used it extensively on windows). It's so hit and miss depending on what file manager you use.

I really liked the suggestion to use systemd to mount a network drive only when the OS has network connectivity. I've been using /etc/fstab but sometimes the drive doesn't get mounted at start up.

Linux is missing one thing for file management, Total Commander. No, there is no alternative with the same features with GUI that makes sense on Linux, TC does it all and does it well. It even has command line directly in the GUI.

Ooooh, I am going to try your method for mounting drives.

VLC has the advantage of a volume booster amp. I find that very useful so I try and use VLC. But I have had bad image playback with it. I think hardware acceleration was to blame which is weird as my laptop has a reasonable spec.

I think some missed the point: The challenge is: Do the stuff like a typical "windows gamer" would do ( = without using the console too often or "you need to use the terminal to get things done in linux"). @Chris: I challenge you to use Linux for 30 days without ever using the terminal for anything (as you can do anything within Windows without using the Terminal / Powershell once). Just regular "I can use Linux without using the shell and work "normally" my daily tasks / games.

Some printers are really troublesome. I once had to install drivers for an Oki C301 and it wasn't fun even though I love tinkering. So it's a good idea to check if the network printer you wish to buy works with Linux out of the box before purchasing it...

BTW, creating an entire systemd service for mounting drivers is redundant. fstab is currently in sustemd, so at boot systemd reads the fstab and creates separate services for each mount

At this point, I consider your response videos just as important to watch as the actual LTT videos themselves. Love your content, keep it up!

Chris which distro do you use?

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I was expecting Anthony at LTT to make comments on those videos which did not happen. Thanks for doing this Chris. It helps that I've been using computers since DOS as I gradually migrated to Linux from Windows. You just can't go into Linux willy-nilly like that. Dual booting was pretty useful for comparing and gaming, and when things didn't go as expected, I could fallback to Windows.

Do you think you could do a GUI File Manager Comparison video?

I would be interested in a video on how to do custom systemd services. I use FreeBSD as my daily driver, and I can configure bsdinit in my sleep. But sometimes there are things that FreeBSD can't do, and I have to use Linux for those things, and SystemD is one of those areas where Linux is very different to FreeBSD, and not in a good way.

Where exactly did he react to part 2? if not in this channel? @0:13

I truly love your channel.

today's was best so far

How often do you install fonts to remember that command?

Wow, I didn't expect him to use the terminal 100% all the time. I am curious what would happens if he actually did a video using Linux without a Terminal. As a Linux beginner, I did use Linux but, I didn't know that when you have to use Linux, you have to make it your own. Terminal was helpful at times when I was having trouble doing it using a the Graphical versions of it (Terminal is very helpful when comes to installing Applications instead of the GUI) and every time I use a GUI Package Manager, I am always scared because, something might go wrong. When I use Terminal to install things, there you go, it's now in your computer. Terminal might actually be better than the Windows Wizard Installer. I really liked the Terminal, because, you just type that here and there and it just does things that you wanna it to do.

You’re my favorite NON-BIASED youtuber for this type of stuff lol. Glad I found you 😁

i love dolphin's 'split' option so instead of opening 2 windows when dragging files around i can just keep the 1

"WIN + Shift + S" in Windows 10 (and I'm guessing 11) will bring up the screen snip tool which is suuuuper nice for taking screen shots.

Thunar is the best linux file manager for me, it looks good, it's simple, yet has all the features that you would need.

To get my non-networked Epson multifunction printer scanner to be shared on my network was a small challenge. Printing was easy but scanning was unintuitive. To get the saned service to access the device I had to add it to the lpr group as Linux assigned the USB device to the printer user. Once I did that everything else was easy. I can even scan from my android phone.

@ChrisTitusTech Could you please explain, how you mount your Networkshares @Timestamp 12:19 I have tried to find a video (from you) about it, but sadly failed. I just found the Video about mounting a drive. Thanks a lot for your help.

Chris you have many experience, I recive a frequent ask, "how can I install a package in a external hard drive?" I mean usually this question is beacause they was Windows users and usally Windows could you choose the path to install the program, and in this case if you want use a hard drive atleast a your normal SSD how do you can do this? I never try it in Linux, I mean yes you can use a tar.gz or a Appimage but from a deb file or a sanp or a flatpak how can you select a ubication to install?

Only issue I've had with scanning on my multi-function printer is that I have to turn it off and back on between printing and scanning. Since I normally keep it turned off unless I need to use it for one thing or the other, that's no problem.

Missed opportunity to name the title CTT vs LTT. Also, 'tar -vcf archive.tar.xz *' will _not_ make an xz archive, it will just do a simple tar with the name ending in xz. To do a tar and compress using xz compression, the option to use is -J (-j for bzip2 and -z for gzip). -v is verbose, -c is create (archive) and -f is the name of the archive. This is kinda what Linus did with html target file saved as .sh. I'm certain Chris knows this, the comment is for passers-by.

I have been using Manjaro KDE for many years now, but I never use Dolphin instead, I use Double Commander for Qt (sudo pacman -S doublecmd-qt5). Those who have used Total Commander on Windows will feel right at home. There is also Krusader, but I prefer Double Commander.

Nice to see that you use thunar. You said it, gives some power options still being noob-friendly.