Colombia Is struggling to exterminate terrorist rebel groups.

"I think it obfuscate people" I hate you people and your semantics. It is what is: a fricking civil war. and if you think it sounds to rough is because it is. Look at what's happening in el cauca, jamindi and Catatumbo. If no one uses the real term here is precisely because the government wants to hide the reality is this country

Petro their president is a terrorist

word

yes you are right, it stopped being a civil war when the reason for fighting stopped being political and became criminal

After 10 years you kind of get used to it, it doesn't get easier but you learn what to expect lol

@@juanbustos1338 what do you expect?

Venezuela is unique in that it's been the unrelenting victim of decades of economic sanctions.

Sorry about that neighbour

@@josephharrison8354 Or perhaps a centralized model based on a dictatorship that only benefits the small and unqualified group who runs the country?

Can you imagine? the country has been sacked, exploited, raped by the "political" class, the corruption is still rampant and yet we still have money? If we stop being colombians for once and realize we are stealing our own house, the country will be a super power

Motivations do not define what a civil war is or is not. As a civil war is just a war between two native forces in the same country, it doesn't matter what your reasoning is, may it be monetary, power, or anything else.

Nope one part is still comuistic

@@alexlehrersh9951 'comuistic' 😂😂😂

@@JTP1999 In that sense, almost every country is in a civil war because you have the law and order against criminal stuff. Something like this has happening in Colombia a couple of decades. I don't know any academic who considers this a civil war, it's misleading term.

Civil War: A civil war is a war between organized groups within the same state (or country). The aim of one side may be to take control of the country or a region, to achieve independence for a region, or to change government policies. Idk Colombia’s situation kinda sounds pretty “civil war-ish” to me

A civil war is a war between organized groups within the same state (or country). The aim of one side may be to take control of the country or a region, to achieve independence for a region, or to change government policies. Idk this situation seems a bit civil warish to me

sounds like a low intensity civil war though. civil war doesnt mean every town village and city are constantly in combat

@@frankwilliamk3769 The actors in this conflict stopped struggling many years ago for a Marxist-Leninist goal as they say. So they are not political actors to be classified as "civil war"

@@frankwilliamk3769 Not at all. The guerillas are not political actors as if they were before the 90's. They don't look for anything politically speaking, at least in the last 30 years of their 60 years of existence

Lmao no. It's a cultural thing. Colombians are prone to drugs, asocial behaviour and whatnot

Mainly, it's owing to the whole far right politics who don't let do anything.

@@HiFerch Then why do things gets worse once a Far Left candidate is president?

⁠@@samuelboucher1454do they get worse? Seems like it’s been the same for decades with only minor changes.

@@samuelboucher1454 Could you tell us how is worse than when the far right president was murdering innocents? Or you are just repeating what your local politician tells you?

Nah, FARC isn't a criminal faction, it is a revolutionary organization. And the other paramilitaries groups are pretty much guerrilas that want something other than sell drugs.

Mexico at the moment is a civil war el mencho and his men are literally up to isis in methods

It stopped being about political control and became mainly about drug trafficking however the main ideal is still political and the peace agreements include political representation, the absolute majority of colombians dont even know what the conflict is about nowadays and just consider the guerrillas as enemies that must be destroyed since thats the narrative the media has pushed the conflict and popular opinion towards

​@@kyomademon453that's a bit reducting. People are kidnap and killed by the guys, farmers are murdered and extorsions are high in the rural territories where these guys operate. The hate doesn't come from media just creating the narrative, these people are nasty. With that said, yeah there are better ways to control the situation than getting 100 people inside a forest to shoot trees

It is not even close to a civil war lmao

En Arauca, Cauca y en muchas regiones del sur sí.... Y más durante la total inacción de este gobierno de hampones

@@juliandavididarragarestrep8719 *La Inacción de Duque

@@CarlMarxPunk lmao its always the leftists blaming past governments when this one is worse... 360 mil millones stolen by this government and y'all blame everyone else

@@CarlMarxPunkentonces por qué los homocidios y secuestros han crecido desde que el ex guerrillero Petro fue elegido?

De petro guerrillero

I hope you and your country see better times in the future my friend.

I'm so sorry to hear...

They do not

​@@NewDealDem2187😂

@@NewDealDem2187That’s not necessary.

uff. Donde y cuando mi perro?

​@@TattooTourism seguramente en Sincelejo no, porque en Sincelejo no hay una monda

@@danielmartinez8107No hable paja, prenda el cerebro más bien

To add to this, Medellin and Bogota now have a lower homicide rate than a lot of american cuties like philidelphia or denver. So you should be fine.

Salga de Bogota y a 50 millas usted se encuentra a la guerrilla en una vereda. Faltan que vuelvan los atentados para que ustedes comiencen a salir de su burbuja. Dio mio.

Yup, it ain’t a civil war whatsoever

which colombians? the ones benefitting from the drug market or the ones fighting it? "Colombians" would be partly to blame here as well.

@@antoniorl7549 True, however if the demand deminishes the market will eventually perish.

And we colombians stand with you too cheers to the indian-colombian frienship!!! Namaste!

thank you 💛💙❤️

🇨🇴💕🇮🇳

who tf are u

Ok

If you have militia groups controlling territory and fighting against thr governement, that sounds like a civil war. Everything else is just copium

you say you aren't in a civil war, then go on to describe a civil war. I can see why you wouldn't want to call it that. but rose by any other name...

​@@ThatGuy-bz2in It is not a civil war because in a civil war each side has CLEAR political objectives and REAL PROPOSALS and aim to obtain power to take RESPONSIBILITY of the country, but the terrorists in Colombia have very little of the first and none of the second. Plus in civil wars, the civilians are the ones that support one of the sides of the conflict, and in Colombia no one wants to be with guerrillas, only criminals... Their actions are purely criminal and terrorist, which mainly include kidnapping, killings and massacres, displacement of locals in rural areas and native indigenous peoples and their most profitable and practiced drug traffic. They even displace and burn down villages in order to use their lands to plant coca and marihuana to produce and sell drugs. They claim to have political aims, but the truth is that they have no proposals of how to govern a territory and even less the country. They use the easiest ideologies to make terrorism out of (socialism and communism/left wing) and claim that they pursue them, but it is all a vague justification as they don't even apply them in the lands that they control,where it works more like a dictatorship in which if you don't comply and join them you're either killed or displaced. It is a war on criminals, not a war in which the civilians look to involve; thus, not a civil war.

@@yuanxiii3893 You seem to only recognize certain kinds of civil wars, as civil wars. A civil war does not require all sides to have clearly defined goals and plans. It is pretty normal for there to be factions who are just trying to look out for themselves and their own group. Not calling it a civil war is just an attempt to make it sound less serious than it is. But it is a war fought between citizens of the same country, IE a civil war.

Bro, Israel ya ni hace soporte para los k-fir 😂 avion obsoleto, aparte los jets de combate no se utilizan contra la guerrilla, es muy costoso, para eso estan los black hawk o los super tucan

who cares about the year lmao dude is still a dirty guerrillero who hasn't worked a real job in his life

Still. It's a commie.🤮

Fue después de la toma del palacio de justicia

It is a civil war, we Colombians just don't refer to it in those terms but it is.

Yeah, just how Russia didn't invade Ukraine. They only did a special military operation.

Newspeak

@@UKGaruIt is not. A proper civil war may happen though if the government forces a a new constitution to stay in power, and if the opposition and part of the army rebel against that. Given recent developments, that proposition is not too far fetched.

​@@CanisLupusSteparium si hablan paja, los que están en contra del gobierno se inventan y escalan cualquier teoría

Que haremos con el gringo 😂😂😂

@@veteranentrepreneur8429 pues se puede empezar por crear videos y publicarlos aquí en youtube para que sea más fácil de encontrar y aprender la historia... ¿o sabés vos de ejemplos o playlists con ese tema? tal vez existan videos relativamente nuevos, no he buscado últimamente, pero la última vez que busqué, no encontré mucho. Ríete lo que querás pero la historia de latinoamerica-especialmente la historia reciente, no es un tema con grandes cantidades de videos. Also, is gringo supposed to be some sort of insult lmao i grew up far from my ancestral homelands.. sue me?? jxuka idx yuwetxi's wew'ega'? mawkwe we'wega'? idx nasa kimtxna'? idxa' jiyuga'? kĩh txãa musxkayak khĩnja'w 🤣

Hardly. The conflict is nowhere near as bad as it used to be.

@@admiralbrown9334 This is true. The 90's was the WORST era from our history

@@andresuaza or perhaps the 40s and 50s at the peak of La Violencia.

Not true at all.

It's not. It's a conflict against terrorism.

He's just being sensationalist. Colombia is just in a campaign against drug trafficking, that's all.

Since the 1940s, on and off.

​@@feredorPretty wierd,cause last time I remeber,Anti-drug trafficking campaigns don't result in death's of 220000 civillians and a further abduction of 27000,While displacing 5000000,Over a period of 60 years

@@Phantomgaming154 "60 years" While Syria in less than 15 years actually surpassed these figures. Or look at Myanmar, we have the same population and they're doing pretty bad after 3 years

​@@feredorThe situation's in syria is fairly recent and only became as bad as it is,Due to bashar al assad using chemical weapons against his civillians which forced them to start an uprising against him.And in myanmmar's case,The conflict started as a result of the british not leaving behind a proper goverment. Now with colombia,The situation started as a result of leftist and consevative millitias fighting against each other.

It's actually called "FARC", not the f word

@@MiraitowaOlympicsfan2005 I am well aware.

⁠it's cuz he is British and doesn't make R sound so it sounds like fk

@@F2vWD9 farcing hell man

@@Banter07 It's a good thing the country is called Colombia and not Turkey or Tunisia.

Yeah it's literally just two-bit street gangs that have adopted a communist aesthetic, which can *technically* trace their origins back to actual communist guerillas but which have not operated as such for many decades. The idea that anywhere in Colombia is an actual honest-to-god warzone is very silly; it really isn't much different from one of the several other Latin American countries with persistently severe crime problems.

Yes it does, I'm Colombian

@@p00bix Bit street gangs against which the army uses artillery, bombing, helicopters and intelligence. And they are not just 2 (are about 20 or 50 if we include the bacrim)

@@p00bix They are militias, not "street gangs". Criminal militias of Latin America like in Colombia and Mexico often get called "gangs" by American media which downplays what they are. They are not comparable to "street gangs" at all. Street gangs in the USA are nowhere near as powerful nor organized as the crime organizations in Latin America. They are to the level that they can fight off the military, they have operations across borders and in several countries, powerful enough to overpower the law enforcement, control the law enforcement, get rid of politicians, have aircraft, armored vehicles, explosives, and proper chain of commands and ranks

@@soupdrinker that's fair; my comment admittedly downplayed how powerful some of the larger organizations are. I'd argue it still doesn't amount to the level of a full civil war in any country though

its cus it's not a civil war... hasn't been for ages, it's just guerrillas and paramilitary fighting over the drug trade... mixed with a ton of corruption by the government

This doesn't affect urban areas, so unless you go to the jungle where the fight is at, you should be fine

I literally just went tthe jungle and the two poorest states … My mom got dengue but no civil war to be found homie. It’s a very civilized civil war lol. The way locals phrase it is that “those people go around with a list. Just don’t get on the list.” Scaryish, but not like AMERICAN CIVIL WAR

That's just a typical English accent. They always drop R before another consonant.

@@admiralbrown9334 still, English people are a funny people at times, just like me lol

90s were way more assuring and less depressing Sorry

But with less Escobar

Totally true..a complete unknown. So many things going on not reported. Whats said and what is.

​@@Bleilock1the levels of violence in Colombia back then were far far worse than today.

@@admiralbrown9334 yea i meant world wide Sorry

Noon

Ngl, them posting at this time is best for everybody Americans can wake up to new TLDR videos, Brits get videos at noon, and Aussies get videos in the evening

This was posted at 10am

Shit bro appreciate yall. Fell asleep drunk at not knowing Texas to uk time deferential. +6 hours is the community answer

It's such obvious click bait.

lol agreed

Honestly, the vast, vast majority of the country is almost totally unaffected by conflict, including most places tourists go to.

I live in Medellín and it's quite common to see tourists and expats from all over here. My life here is quite calm and I have never witnessed a violent incident. The majority of Colombians are not very aware by the conflict, but despite its low intensity, it really has an impact on our international image. Colombia is safe enough for tourists, just don't try to go to the Darien Gap, the border with Venezuela or some parts of the Amazon región.

You just need to avoid these bait girls on the net. The fact that they are setting traps is hardly tourist friendly thou..

For tourism the country is fine. A couple of friends from the UK went there and loved it. The problem is for the rural areas (as mentioned in the video) that deep communities in Colombia that are outcasts of the big cities are struggling with the power vacuum from the government.

@@feredor same in Bogotá or most other major cities. And even in the more populated rural areas, the conflict isn't present.

Hahaha omg

Stopped playing tno for that, it really harms mental health

😂😂 good one

Seems they don't give a farc about the peace process.

F.A.R.C Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia souns like the F word xd

No lo es 🇨🇴🕊

Nice flag you got there mate

It's incredible how ignored it is.

Dude me too and I'm Colombian

Ok I did know about it, never heard of it referred as a 'civil war' I guess, that name is reserved more for the period before 1960 in my experience

It’s not a civil war tho. Maybe in the 50s but now is just lack of government control in rural areas

It's not. It's a conflict against terrorism

Colombian.

@@admiralbrown9334 Hola, soy colombiano, por favor aceptemos que "Columbia" es el nombre de nuestro pais en ingles, haciendo el simil (de la misma manera que) de "Spain" y "España".

@@user-cj7xb2yp7dno hay España y Spain en inglés , solo Spain. tu argumento se cae

@@user-cj7xb2yp7d falso, también es Colombia en inglés. Solo los ignorantes escriben "Columbia". No soy colombiano pero sé leer un mapa.

​@@user-cj7xb2yp7dFalso, es un error de ortografía, el nombre oficial en ingles es Colombia

How do you decide what is yours?

Capitalism will go out like the dinosaurs..

Capitalism is based on stealing from the poor and giving to the rich. Capitalism forcefully redistributes wealth, just in a way that hurts the vast majority of the people, unlike socialism.

​@admiralbrown9334 let me live in your home then, as long with a few buddies

Then why do right wing governments tax us? To spend it on themselves. They all take our money but we simply let them. Greed is rampant.

Hahahaha omg I know this comment is going to get buried but it's amazing to see TNO brainrot like this in tldr news

Time to call the Japanese Army to test the new Guangdong SPGs...

They have one.

@@admiralbrown9334 they don't . the election ended a couple days ago

Por lo que veo usted no conoce de historia y de grupos de autodefensas 😂

Colombia already had hard line right wingers who tried to assume dictatorial power. No more of that thanks.

@@admiralbrown9334 Bukele is left wing and you're a restart.

We had one he fucked everything up.

@@CarlMarxPunk it's incredible how these people who know nothing about Colombia will say it needs a strongmen, unaware of who ruled the country from 2002 to 2010. They just reveal their own ignorance.

Guatemala, Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Venezuela, Bolivia, Mexico, Honduras, Suriname and the United States are corrupt countries with human rights abuses with the potential for political violence, police brutality and war crimes in the Americas.

It was not the majority, only about 38% of registered voters did it and won by a slight margin fed by the lies of the far right parties.

The thing is, it wasn't ''against'' the majority. The vote was very close and the places that voted yes were the ones that were the most affected by the conflict, the ones that voted no to it were the ones that have NEVER seen war and tought it was just as easy as just saying ''just kill em' all'', wich is something that is VERY easy to say when you are not the one putting yourself, your sons, daughters, family and even house in the middle of the violence huh?

Cry

😂😂😂😂 non sense, get a life

Ya llegaron a llorar los petristes aca.

@@manwithnoname2355 llore

Como llora el petriste, ni un dia sobrevive en el monte y usted con esos videos da es pero risa😹😹😹😹

It was born from the ideology of communism because the little farmers were being attack constantly and every day were more poor, so the guerrillas were revolutionaries fighting for the ones that didn’t have. It was after some time that they change their road and became narcos attacking the ones they were supposed to protect (They don’t accept they are drug traffickers, they say they only put “taxes” on the drugs the other groups traffic)

I think you have to go all in one way or another. Mealy mouthed "lets be compassionate to criminals" strategies only result in more misery for everyone. Either legalize it and take full control over distribution or illegalize it and ruthlessly enforce anti drug policies

​@foregone_roulette That last thing was attempted during decades. It just doesn't work, legalisation and regulation is the only reasonable way.

​@@foregone_rouletteAn example of this is Ecuador, during Rafael Correa's presidency he made very lenient laws towards gangs to supposedly "bring peace to the streets" and "keep away the youth from committing crimes", now look at the results today: a new spiral of violence, the gangs became more powerful than ever and their violent tendencies never went away, and now the current government have to deal with by putting them into brand new prison facilities at best and bullets at worst.

@@IsAcRafT The United States tried banning a drug already, it's called alcohol and the effort was called Prohibition. How'd that work out?

@@guydreamr you legalize the soft stuff like weed and levy stringent penalties on hard drugs. Oregon just tried complete decriminalization and it was a disaster, now they're walking it back. Any of the areas in the US that have been permissive towards hard drugs in the past decade have turned into crime ridden slums, because compassion and enablement cannot cure addiction. It just makes life worse for law abiding citizens

Totally different situation. El Salvador ended their actual civil war with negotiations decades ago.

El Salvador has nowhere near the complexities that the Colombian arm conflict has . The country has been battling the war on drugs since the 80s and results show it has been a complete failure.

Harsh crackdown= murdering thousands of civilians and pretending they were guerrillas.

There was more than 6000 civilians killed by the goverment to make them pass as guerrilla, thats the people the humanos rights org were worried for. After the peace talks with FARC there was the most peaceful time in Colombia since the the 40s, not filing the gap of power in the rural areas and trying to destroy the peace process agreement it's tha cause of the rise in violence.

Guatemala, Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Venezuela, Bolivia, Mexico, Honduras, Suriname and the United States are corrupt countries with human rights abuses with the potential for political violence, police brutality and war crimes in the Americas.

Dude the country had German style inclination camps conducted by paramilitaries who killed innocent farmers and burn their bodies to get rid or evidence. The peace agreement actually allow many rural areas communities to finally see peace. While imperfect many areas can now be visit and tourism is finally taking off in the country after Many decades.

Uribe la cago haciendo los falsos positivos, Colombia estaría mejor si hubiera seguido con su mano dura solamente hacia los verdaderos malos.

well you don’t really hear about the successful ones because the conflict ends and is no longer reported on

Yeah, like the famously failed Northern Ireland peace process.

There's more nuance to that than the oversimplified "you can't negotiate with radicals", a lot of it had already been discussed in the video. Here are the general considerations: Negotiating strength-which could be basically measured as the overall strength of a faction's position. The government will always have the upper hand due to the fact that governments are some of the most potent institutions, but for negotiations to be effective, the advantage for the government should be overwhelming. Political considerations-all sides have factions within them. In the case of the government, there could be the deep state, military, business interests, political parties, powerful dynasties, unions and advocacy groups. All of them needed to be taken into consideration. Trust-in order for a peace deal to work both sides must at least have a semblance of trust that their counterpart could hold their end of the bargain. In all honesty, even the example I've provided is a simplified version of reality.

@@admiralbrown9334 The Good Friday Agreement was a massive capitulation and humiliation for the UK. Tony Blair made massive concessions in that agreement; concessions that ultimately resulted in the victory of terrorism.

@@lukehashbarger9936 Really? So you see no problem in making concessions to radicals?

No, he should be allowed to finish his term like in any democracy.

​@@admiralbrown9334true he should be allowed to finish his term and then we will never elect incompetent scum like him ever again. He's the dumbest leftoid president in history, it's like he makes an effort to fail in every possible metric. He's very unintentionally humorous.

@@admiralbrown9334 he should be able to finish his term of course. So we can have a chance in the future to never elect someone as comically incompetent as himself. Of all the leftoid presidents in the world Petro must be the dumbest one by a large margin, he fails at every metric, I would say it takes effort to be that bad but we know for a fact that mr Petro barely works at all he spends most of his time on X posting incoherent rants, or behind closed doors doing who knows what.

Llore y vera que renuncia mañana

@@CarlMarxPunk es más posible que muera de una sobredosis

No thanks, Colombia already had hard line right wingers in charge.

It didnt work

Another hardliner like Uribe? No thanks.

Uribe was Bukele , it didn't work Colombian cartels were replaced by the Mexican cartel and Albanian mafias and now they're dealing with the same violence the country had before.

Why would anyone want an authoritarian dictator like Bukele in power? I'd prefer to keep my human rights.

How are the people supposed to solve it exactly?

​@@admiralbrown9334 he's talking out his ass. I guarantee he's never done anything

@@admiralbrown9334 Maybe by preventing this from escalating many many decades ago? Maybe by fighting corruption? Doing some Bukele stuff? Or maybe, just maybe, stop acting like coca-leaves and it's end product is somehow a Colombian national heritage that deserves respect in any way.

@@charlethemagne5466 I don't need to do anything because my country isn't a place for kidnappings, corruption and cartels. We would not let it become that way, so we don't need drastic actions now. If any group, let alone multiple will kidnap people, you have a failed state. If the government won't put in the effort it's up to the people to act, by voting or by going Paul Kersey. If the people just continue to sit back, I am sorry but they made a grave mistake and their kids will pay for it. What bad situation has ever improved by doing nothing?

​@@admiralbrown9334el Salvador

That just sounds like you're poorly informed to be honest.

@@admiralbrown9334 It's not an incorrect way to put it, but also not the kindest. We just don't have much contact with the Hispanics, except maybe if you live in a border area and not many people live in the border with Colombia. There just isn't a lot of interest and I assume it's the same for them, there's a green ocean between us and barriers in culture, language, etc.

Guatemala, Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Venezuela, Bolivia, Mexico, Honduras, Suriname and the United States are corrupt countries with human rights abuses with the potential for political violence, police brutality and war crimes in the Americas.

It's not. It's a conflict against terrorism.

As the colonel would say: Asi es, pero no tanto