And the entire party is “fringes”

Has anyone ever wasted such a big majority before? I remember after the election it was generally believed it would take Labour at least 10 years to recover. It's amazing that the tories used their majority so badly

A majority that Boris obtained and not the Tory party. They got rid of the goose that lays the golden egg and along with it the Boris won majority.

Seriously, it's the bulk sides, the love handles, if you will. Many, many life-long Tory voters are fuming right now. There is no conservative party in the UK apart from Reform UK. All we got is high taxes, more welfare culture and mass immigration that is set to make the true British a minority on their own island eventually.@@andylewis7360

They had absolute power, true electoral dictatorship. Every party's dream scenario. And they absolutely f*c*k'd it.@@jamesarnold7253

Are they explicit, i.e. detailed about anything?

They are just a bunch of xenophobics.

@@michaelblower7363 Still better than bunch of self-hating virtue signalers...

It is the main source of our issues. A lot of vacancies that the gov has been trying fill with mass immigration is quite literally sourced from the mass immigration itself. We’re not getting the doctors or engineers we’re getting dependants, meaning that for every NHS job that needs filled and is filled by an immigrant, they bring their whole families (who create more pressure on schools the NHS and other public services). Additionally, house prices haven’t been this bad as compared to the average wage since 1876, you must be choosing ignorance to think that not building anymore housing and then importing 10 million people within a decade wouldn’t drive up house prices and that’s just an add on from 2008.

They likely didn’t mention it because immigration is their campaign issue whereas the video concerns their actual agenda.

In the UK Labour will likely win a 1997 style landslide and the Liberal Democrats could go back to around their 2005 levels and form the official opposition.

Yeah I think TLDR made this comparison before.

I’m very familiar. Kim Campbell’s Progressive Conservative Party were annihilated in spectacular electoral fashion and eclipsed by the Reform Party of Canada. Bloc Québécois was also a newly founded party and like you say, their party leader became Leader of the Opposition. This was bizarre for a nationalist party that stood candidates only in Quebec. It’d be like the SNP leading the opposition in the United Kingdom. The Reform Party of Canada would be succeeded by the Canadian Conservative-Reform Alliance and this political party would still beat the Progressive Conservative Party at the polls. However, these two parties were splitting the conservative voting base and eventually they agreed to merge thus the Conservative Party of Canada was founded.

@@jackwilliamsmith8734 is that this same party under Pierre Poilievre that seems to come in power soon ? i heard that Trudeau became very unpopular, i know that edgy comment sections with comments from the whole anglo saxon world under Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan videos must not be confused with what the canadian people actually think, but with spiralling housing crisis and cost of living crisis, to which Trudeau's answer is to not touch its neoliberal doxa while pretending to be progressive with crazy and ridiculous identity politics that only gets the right wing pissed, while at the same time the opioids crisis is spreading in Canada.

And now they have an 99.9% chance of winning an majority victory. Go Pierre

Tbf i dont think labour hate migrants 😂

@@nicks4934 neither does Reform.

@@nicks4934 Are migrants the solutions to UK problems?

@@nicks4934Neither does Reform? Legal and high skilled immigration is key for any Globalist Nation however ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and PEOPLE SMUGGLING is NOT okay. Our soft laws on kicking these criminals out also need reform.

​@@hhhpolo3551they certainly paper over the cracks of declining birthrates and the useless comprehensive education system and general state of demoralisation that prevents people from going into essential jobs. They don't solve the problem and they cause issues themselves but we lose them at our own peril.

I for one look forward to the day we elect our first privately owned corporation into government /s

Keep voting for the establishment and getting nothing in return.

deform uk is funded by putin

and they have parties, when they are not supposed too 😂😂😂😂😂

@@wotermelon_lol found the reform voter 😂🫵😬

Same with immigration. Until they deal with the need for immigrants reducing immigration will never happen.

They've actually given a whole bunch of ways quite, specifically in many cases with numbers and all, in previous interviews. I couldn't tell you if those numbers and strategies are accurate and good, I'm just a comment, but they do seem to at least be trying to be more legit than the tories

It's the classic right wing politics of 'cut spending but spend more'

I actually disagree on this! I believe that there’s an incredible waste by governments and councils. And that they could easily make budget cuts, that if done correctly wouldn’t have any effect on the economy or individuals. To be fair as-well £5 out of every £100 sounds pretty feasible!

Remove immigrants. It has costs us countless billions and social damage.

Simply existing right now is strategy for them? What? 😂What policies aswell? Last time I checked they wanted to introduce healthcare stamps. They haven't got a clue.

@@LukeofSmeg Existing? Brudda are you not paying attention, Reform are already winning over Conservative votes. Reform just need to bide their time and watch Labour do the exact same amount of damage the Tories have been doing as Labour don't have any real radical policies. Re NHS: "Patients will receive a voucher for private treatment if they can't see a GP within 3 days. For a consultant, the time limit would be 3 weeks. For an operation, 9 weeks." Mate just go to Google type Reform UK Policy and have a read for yourself, it don't need to be this vague, forbidden text no one is allowed to see for themselves. Or if you struggle with that just ask and I shall respond.

​@@LukeofSmeg Existing? Brudda have you not been paying attention, Reform are already winning over Conservative vote. Reform just needs to bide their time and watch Labour do the exact same damage the Tories have been doing, as they have no real radical policies. Re NHS: "Patients will receive a voucher for private treatment if they can't see a GP within 3 days. For a consultant, the time limit would be 3 weeks. For an operation, 9 weeks. My guy, just Google Reform UK policy and have a read for yourself, it doesn't need to be this vague, forbidden piece of text that no one is allowed to read. Or if you struggle with that just ask and I shall respond.

They are a bunch of chancers and clowns. But carry on people keep voting for shite.

@@LukeofSmeg They have the fastest growing membership of any party.

This is possible as there is lots of money going to projects and departments that we don’t need a lot of our tax money is being wasted reform uk is promising to look at where the money is being spent and any project or department that we don’t need or is a waste of money they will either reduce its budget or get rid of it saving money

Someone needs to study the "Leffar Curve". Lowering taxes does not need to create a lower tax income, usually it inceases after a while.

@@thomasbootham2707 You don't REALLY believe that there are departments we "don't need" that are receiving tens of billions of pounds... do you? Because it would take tens of billions to fulfil those promises.

But this is standard rhetoric for every party not in power. Everyone promises to make magical savings by 'cutting inefficiency', blah blah, and deliberately overestimating what might be achieved. Then, if they get into power, all that evaporates. It's just populist nonsense. @@thomasbootham2707

@@theravyneffect3610 These people never look at the actual expenditure of the government - so they have no idea the absurd amount of money that goes to health already

Well with SNP basically dead, a lot of former SNP seats are likely to return to Labour. PC has no problem tactical voting for Labour as long as Labour earmarks enough funding for Wales.

The left are still split?

we will always be split. I am a commie, so according to the liberal political spectrum, I am far left. I am not a ML (marxist leninist) nor an anarchist and of course not a social democrat. I am an Ultra, a member of the ICP. Even the far left in the left are split, so we will always be split and it's great. Half of us know (except sucdems and anarchists) that communism can't be voted in through represetive democracy. @@SaintGerbilUK Idealogical people will always be split. Left is known to be way more idealogical than the right who are mostly s h e e p single issue voters.

​@mycodingchannel9690 the last sentence you spouted is utter rubbish.

@@mycodingchannel9690 ideologues don't live in reality.

I'm not saying you're wrong but what is this based on? I haven't seen any polling/by election performance from reform to suggest they're actually capable of securing that many votes. Even in 2015, when ukip got 3 million votes, it didn't make that kind of impact.

oh no not the precious tories who fall over each other to sell out their voters time after time

Every time our hopes rely on the general voting population voting "tactically" I assume we're going to fail. Again.

what a pity

Good 😂😂😂

Can't see it being Reform at the next election, there's a very good chance it will be Lib Dems (or maybe SNP if they can recover themselves).

The non-populist right wing is being replaced everywhere else, it would be no surprise if the Tories suffer the same fate.

Farage is a professional grifter. Being cunning and be able to read your vicitim (in this case the right wing electorate) is a necessary job-skill.

its easy to be a goblin, its someone else that cleans up the mess

It does help when you have the target audience he has. Other parties have to have well thought out policies and plans, he can just rattle his keys to keep their attention

Breaking: Nobody cares

@@krisdaschwab912 It does mean reform party has it's first ever MP, so, I do think somebody cares.

@@Nabium For a whole... what... 9 months max?

@@SamPhoenix_ Nine months more than no months, which legitimises them in the upcoming election. You desperately want this to not matter at all, so you project that onto the situation instead of being objective.

and he is right about islam

"Federalisation"😭😱😰🤮

Based

Step 1 - "Pledge to lower net immigration with a Danish style policy" Step 2 - "Massively increase immigration as soon as you have power"

@@incurableromantic4006 , the people on benefits will have to be willing to work if we do reduce immigration though. They need to want to be trained. If not then what you described will keep happening. Taking £3000 per month in benefits (which my dad who works in the job centre knows a lot of people who do this) will have to end.

I live in Wales and federalisation is the worst most rediculous idea possible. We barely even wanted our own assembly

Not only that, it's even the same people who told many of the Brexit lies 😂

@@_jpgreform democracy to nationalism

With every far right party is answer is always the same, they are all authoritarian Fascists.

Hey now, they have detailed some of the plans. ... And they are genuinely moronic plans.

Oh, they know exactly what they want to reform it into. We're just on the wrong side of the grift.

Like the Monster Raving Loony Party, who wanted to introduce a 99p coin? Yes Please!!!!!

Yes, it’s the same kind of people

The bus is blue this time!

Remoners seem to get all their information from the side of buses. 😂😂😂😂

The people who commissioned that bus were not the government, they were a group campaigning to leave the EU. The Tory government were completely split on the issue if you remember. Therefore the statement written on the bus wasn't a promise, it was a suggestion. They literally did not have the authority to promise government policy. I don't know why people believed it was a promise and still insist it was to this day.

@@harambae7014 It's because Remoaners are so desperate to discredit Brexit that they seize on any scrap of information to bolster their flimsy case against it.

And why is it the people that stand to benefit from it hate it too? Ignoring experts and demanding we do the opposite to what they advise. It's a crazy world full of crazy people.

Many rich people in the US invested in it so it’s probably just UK millionaires aren’t as caught up

it makes no sense to hate them a priori, but we must take note that they are not sufficient (except for nations that can rely on hydroelectricity) and that in many European states they live on subsidies.

Anyone who understands the shortcomings of renewable energy understands how much of a waste of resources it is, unless it's nuclear or hydro

@@stonehengemaca lack of education, lots of religious brainwashing too

And doesn’t it just scare you to bits how successful they’ve become?…

@@spoonkus5893 Successful? Far from that. Last thing the country needs is a corporation running it.

@@spoonkus5893 Because 10% of the electorate are bigotted vermin. No surprise there.

@@spoonkus5893 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. oh wait you're serious let me laugh harder. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

@@SamLowryDZ-015 where’s the lie?

Like that would work. Just look at the Netherlands and Italy and germanies second largest party. Europe is riddled with PR systems that have elected radical right wing government

Sadly, pledges like this often go unpromised. Most parties won't go changing the electoral system after being elected by it.

@@manana1444 What political party has promised to change the electoral system who then actually went into government? It's only small parties, who don't beenfit from FPTP promise it and by definition they never get into government.

Yes, but don't trust them to honour that. Remember that Farage deliberately manipulated the 2019 election in an attempt to make the result even less proportional than it would already have been under FPTP. Just like he bangs on ad nauseum about the so-called "will of the people", but totally supported Trump becoming president despite mmore people having voted for Hillary Clinton. This lot only favour a fair voting system, or anything else, when it's to their advantage to do so.

@@lewis123417 That,s hoe democracy works lol.

Smartest american ever

Are you saying that is what should happen, in which case I strongly disagree with you, or are you saying that's what Deform UK will do, in which case you're probably right?

The Tories' policy is to cut NHS waiting lists by waiting for people to die.

@@erikzoe1 Edited my original post

yeah importing another 3 million over this next decade should fix all that.

Conservatism refers to being cautious and careful in your actions, and rejecting rapid change. Attempting to halt immigration trends overnight, cut government spending by orders of magnitude and directly interfere with primary and secondary school curricula are all very radical policies. They are not conservative policies, they are reactionary - aiming to reverse current trends through radical change.

Social conservatism champions the same views as it did in the fifties, in respect to religion & demographics, the main issues for people who call themselves socially conservative, is inflexible and fringe.

Lazy ineptitude!

Reform had nothing to do with the implementation of Brexit. They were not in parlement or government. The implementation was set to fail due to the Tories fucking it up, like everything. Putting people in charge of Brexit that voted against it. Dirty tricks.

Brexit was the biggest shock to the neoliberal globalisation system ever. The entire ruling class was devastated. It's a pity you didn't have the guts to get behind it

No.. just no..

@@jonathonhoggarth6473 are you still one of the fools that think Brexit was good or insist its ‘just not done right’ in some vague nonsense way?

@@jonsmith5058Are you one of those people still bloody banging on about Brexit after 8 years?

Can i suggest you how to grow your channel and best seo rank?

Calling the tories far-right is laughable these days. They have a handful of knobs like Mogg, but there isn't that much difference between them and labour these days.

Yes because Nigel is calling for the extermination of Jews and imperium over mainland Europe. He is, isn’t he…?

Yes! It's a private limited company. You can't become a member. You are allowed to give money to it!

It is a smart move. I like it.

@@Baddy187 Vote for them then. Good luck with that.

They are a joke 😂😂😂

Bankrolled from Russia with love.

7 times an election loser

We say SIR now, bigot!

a legend

​@@capri2673 Such a patriot, wanting to leave his own country and comparing it to 1943 Germany, Russia as well as today's China...

@@_jpg because he airn wrong in some of those statements.

How I envy your blissful ignorance. If only we could live without knowing the name "Nigel Farage"

@@YourGayOverlord Man wouldn’t have a voice if Labour and the Tories just did their jobs.

They're pushing an incredible amount of propaganda on the short video formats like TikTok. It's clear that they're trying to capture the votes of younger people that haven't learned the realities of the world (which isn't to say that young people cannot be aware, just that this is the combination that reform are targeting with their predatory marketing)

​@@YourGayOverlord UKIP gained 13% vote share in 2015. People voted for them for a reason. You should try to understand where them voters are coming from instead of being patronizing. This is happening all across Europe too - far right is rising in Europe such as Afd in Germany, Marine le pen in France, Meloni in Italy, Sweden Democrats in Italy, Geert Wilders (PVV party) in Netherlands.

@@Bushflare What do you mean? Labour and Tories ran this country for centuries. Have you got no democracy, free speech and so on?

That's a good thing. Lee speaks for 10s of millions of people in this country.

Lol

He was labour they went to shit, he was Tory they went to shit, joined gb news losing money going to shit, come on big man keep up the streak! He's a political jinx😂😂😂

@@Hector-bj3ls Where are you getting this data from? Why do you thing reform did so poorly in the last bi-election then? I don't know 10 people that have fallen for their nonsense. Nobody I know thinks the problems/issues facing the UK are as simple as the vague solutions offered by reform.

It's an idea which seems to work well in practice, both here and abroad. I've had various NHS treatments at private facilities. The NHS has the power to negotiate very reasonable prices. And they don't have to shoulder all the initial investment and risk of building the facilities. It's far preferable to the government contracting out health services. Which is massively open to cronyism and corruption. I don't think a voucher system should replace NHS facilities. But it seems like an entirely sensible way of supplementing them.

Semi privatised healthcare is literally the norm in Western Europe and places like Japan. Only the UK makes a big fuss out of it cos "MeRiCA" as if the US style healthcare is the only option we have other than the NHS. Do you understand why the NHS is getting more difficult to fund? Aging population maybe??? Also the NHS is very inefficient due to lack of innovation. Personnel isn't an issue per se. The NHS is one of the biggest employers in Western Europe with some of the most well paid. Many other countries actually attempt to use the capacity offered in private hospitals when the capacity is full but because we Brits have this binary "public good, private bad" mentality, that's what's also contributing to the very long waiting lists we have.

@@andybrice2711 The scale of the problem (nearly 8 million people on NHS waiting lists, 50% seen in 12 hours and a 90% bed occupancy in hospitals) isn't merely one of supplementation, this is bordering on replacement. At the small scale bargaining power is greater due to simple supply and demand but we're no longer talking about the small scale here and as such the supply/demand equation starts to swing the other way. If we had money to burn and were able to cut down waiting lists by accessing Private health services while also renovating the NHS then I'd be inclined to agree, but this proposal isn't a solution, it's at best a sticking plaster on a very deep wound. The sheer cost involved in alleviating a problem of this scale while simultaneously claiming to reduce public spending means that it's almost a foregone conclusion that this will actually further damage the NHS due to essential problems being ignored and likely lead to it's being dismantled.

@@andybrice2711 It isn't a solution though. If you think of it, UK has a large aging population, meaning the facilities should be built to accommodate it. Or do you want the private company build it, let the government pay for it over it + few billions extra to shareholders? NHS will not cope, unless it is expanded due to elderly people - those elderly will coming for decades. Do you think decades of voucher system is financially feasible?

@@inbb510 "Brits have this binary "public good, private bad" mentality, that's what's also contributing to the very long waiting lists we have." So nothing to do with a history of being chronically underfunded then? "NHS is very inefficient due to lack of innovation."!? If anything consecutive new regimes with conflicting 'innovative' approaches are part of the problem and a leading cause of inefficiency as providers are forced to adopt, scrap and change entire systems! Also at this point let's just admit the Straw-man in the room. We're not talking about a root and branch restructuring of the entire health system toward an integrated private/public system but rather a stop-gap diversion of funds towards the private sector, likely to the detriment of the public. The point being that the claim of "we'll just pay them to go private" doesn't gel with the "We'll tax you less" promise. Now let's examine the "other countries operate as a combined private / public" claim to see if we're comparing apples with apples and whether these are systems that display significantly greater efficiency or whether they just cost more. Currently the No.1 health care system globally is Singapore which operates a combined private/public system. This is paid for by an enforced saving program termed 'Medisave' which takes between 7 - 9.5% of earnings (a de-facto tax) 'Medishield' a national insurance program and 'Medifund' a 3 Billion reserve (of public money) that helps support the system. While it is undoubtedly providing a better outcome than the UK it is also a significantly more costly one for the individual. The No.1 European health care system is Norway but I was unable to find any in-depth data on it other than that it incurs a per-capita cost of $6,072 as compared to the UK's $4,725 (no.10 overall). That's a 28% higher level of funding. However, the No.2 European health care system is the Netherlands' with a per-capita cost of $6,128. This is partly funded by a statutory health insurance system (another de-facto tax) and has fully integrated the private and public sectors into a single system that is in effect public plus. So in conclusion. Firstly these are very different systems that place a higher portion of the cost on the individual. Secondly judging purely by the per-capita costs involved the NHS is clearly a more efficient service ranking as no.10 globally at only 2/3rds the cost. The per-capita cost of these higher performing systems average out at around 30% more than the UK which simply reinforces my assertion that the NHS isn't underperforming due to inefficiency, but rather due to a lack of funding.

Why?

@@scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501labour have bankrupted my city and the tories are useless.

No one cares

@@damienreilly4347 Now say it without crying

@@joacom ok, no one cares 😭😭😭😭

Oh Boy That Was Destroyed. Its Vagueness On Families and Equal Rights Caused its Defeat. Another Defeat for Fine Gael and Fianna Fail! Also We Are In Recession Now. Great!

🦤

Billionaire's balls, in his mouth.

The "contract" was written a few years ago, I think it's supposed to be a bit vague. Might be wrong.

Lol. I doubt Reform could even get a seat. They're small fry

Then they’d better DO their jobs or find other jobs. The British tax payers can’t afford passengers

can always stop paying billions for all the "immigretns"

​@xelthiavice4276 If you want to not have millions of immigrants over a 5 year period you need policies to massively increase the number of children born in the UK, or else you'll have a demographic crisis VERY quickly.

@@xelthiavice4276 presumably you meant 'immigrants' and if so why would it be in quotation marks?

Managers are infamous for saving the boss money by taking it away from the staff.

Centre right?😅

Just like Brexit, from some of the same people also

What do you mean they don't say how they will do it? If they gain power they will have the authority to cut tax 🤔

@@user-fk9mo2ld6w Having the authority and then actually cutting taxes are two separate things

its broken due to lazy british people end of the day no wonder the goverment let so many people in to cover them lol

I think their long-term strategy here ( if they have one) is to keep expanding the private healthcare service while making the NHS even more defunct, so that eventually you get a US-style healthcare.

Well maffs is hard, innit?

​@@CartoonDrama44Exactly. The plan is to turn it into US system and royally fuck anyone whose not rich.

I think it's more a case of "this is where we are, the NHS has been gutted (starting under Blair if not before with all the 'public private partnerships' he instigated that burdened it with so much debt / interest repayment) isn't getting things done on time, people need treatment now not in six months so how do we make that happen". Leaving us with an immediate situation that needs handling any which way you can. I would hope that further investment in and restructuring of the NHS* to get the NHS back up to spec and on track would put an end to the need for any substantial outspending to the private healthcare industry to take up the slack within 5-10 years. * to get rid of extraneous management layers that add no value to the end 'product' and service provision of the NHS .. like all of the EID managers and staff we never had before (it functioned fine before without them, it can again) that unnecessarily swallow so much NHS money.

They don't believe it, I bet you 80-90% of their voters have no idea about this policy. They are buggered come election time when it faces scrutiny. Could be a distraction maybe? Get the press worked up about that, when they know there own voters don't care about that policy only "getting rid of Johnny Foreigner" - Although they don't have any idea how to do that either without authoritarianism and breaking international law.

What problems are they causing exactly? I just see it as an infinite money glitch. Give them a job, get tax. Maybe then we can fund the NHS. Until you give me an actual issue, well I guess i won’t be able to change your view.

​@ArmUkraine how about the millions being spent on housing them? Or the reduction in available housing, which has hiked cost of property?

The reform party seems like more of a punch and judy show than the main parties.

what made you make this joice ? Wanting to destroy and scarecrow you can't even define ? Stupidity ? Racism ?

​@@camillelebreton5778 . Time to grow up silly child.

@@remoanersrknts6736dumb

Let's hear from you why Reform is the solution. That is, if you provide a grown up response.

@@scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501 Labour are not the Labour of the past and do not represent the working man or the majority of Britain. The Conservative government seems to despise the working man, British values and history. Reform though not perfect by any means deserve a chance to be able to represent the majority and not the minority.

You are the problem.

Being a they/them is wayy funnier than that

Funny... in what kind of way?

@@karankapoor2701 I understand if u are conservative and not like trans people or gay people, but understand this PM is most powerfull political office in Britain and is in charge of every goverement fuction, so when u see fighting woke as their only well detailed and most elabarated platform and not u know anything else it looks funny as that person in theory is not an activist it's a politician

@@randomguy-tg7ok In a way that they are running for most powerful political office in Britain and their main concern and/or most detailed platform isn't on the economy nor on bad government services but on American culture wars

They are expected to win 0 seats. And they better not win any.

You'll have a lot of crying to do.

It's about as legally binding as EU law. 😂

No it isn't. UKIP still exists and it's a farce. That's why Farage set up a new party he can control. UKIP attracted embarrassing thugs.

It's just the Nazis

​@@RogerMellie-yk3gw Check out 5.53 of this video

@@scotttracy9333 I'd vote for Reform if I believed those were its policies. But politcal parties never stick to their promises. Plus, their followers are mainly thick chavs. And they didn't even mention reforming the Lords or royal family.

@@RogerMellie-yk3gw no it’s not 😂 wft

They have for the working class Comrade! 👍

@@remoanersrknts6736 - Indeed, congratulations on now having unchallenged access to janitorial jobs.

@@daniels7907 I'm a self employed HGV driver my son is a plumber and thanks to Brexit we're coining it in since eu dross went home. Thank Farage for Brexit! 👍

Well, hard to materialize the benefits when the Tories never acted on enacting them. The UK is still signed up to the EU courts.

@@internethardcase - That was because they had PR, but not an actual *plan*. The mentality was "Get Brexit done....and then everything else should sort itself."

Conservatives love their cars more than life itself. Which actually tracks, given the number of deaths attributed to air quality.

Reminds me of the Onion article about the "War on Christmas" featuring people hiding in the sewer huddled around a scrawny tree

Why not?

@@remoanersrknts6736Because it’s a shit slogan with negative connotations

Yes because usa is totally so much better with Biden in charge, yeah, run by the deep state and all, as well as taking money from Ukraine but yeah, for real bro. Hahahahah. Note sarcasm Trump 2024 usususususus @@-JT-543

@@-JT-543 . Millions like me think it is a very positive remark . 👍

@@-JT-543 I don't mind living in a 'great' country. Sounds pretty good to me

It doesn't need to, it can afford to just take the MP's and Civil Servants to lunch...

STV without PR. PR just empowers extremists by being kingmakers in coalition negotiations as it makes it harder for a major party to get a majority government. STV without PR favors more reasonable and moderate candidates at the expense of extremists. It also keeps territorial constituencies which means you have a MP who is local to you and hopefully understands the issues effecting your local area.

Workers party for me

Yet somehow people fall for it again and again and again and again

muh soyence

Now more than ever!

Proportional Representation yes, regional parliament no.

@@nothereandthereanywhere the councils are bankrupt, run on FPTP and should be worried with local issues not regional ones

PR is what got the austrian painter elected, no thanks.

@@MrNPC..that’s an argument against democracy not proportional representation

It’s cathartic to see them suffer the same fragmentation that’s always plagued the left. But also terrifying that it’s legitimising insane far right ideology.

Extreme right wing! Hmmmn

Most of the Tories are either left wing, incompetent or both! Labour and the rest are extreme left.

What's extreme about them?

They're not extreme right. Just right. They're also wrong about literally everything, but that's a different story.

Traditionalists in the age of information, of social media, or AI is called being reactionary. Reactionary politics are far right politics. Maybe you don't like the term but from what you describe you fit the bill. Quite funny that you don't like the term aswell, because it proves deep down you know that it is morally wrong, but yet you still find ways of justifying it to yourself. I consider myself a patriot for instance, but patriotism has f-all with hating migrants, our multicultural society makes me feel proud to be British. I'd say the idea that foreigners come over and destroy our culture is anti-British. The EU is not going to change British culture, the Americans have given it a good go, but here we are, still as British as ever. Also "as Labour doesn't represent the white working class anymore" - Why do you lot obsess over bringing race into everything? You also think Labour need to listen until they become a true right wing party? You are barmy mate, absolutely gone.

Well said.

Im patriotic, and I hate reform. They will not fix the country, only cut taxes and increase spending, something that really doesn’t work. Labour will actually do “patriotic” things, like funding the military, making bank of nationalising transport systems, increasing employment by opening factories for munitions etc.

@@ArmUkraine Reform have nothing to do with my post. But if you believe in Labour I'm afraid you will end up very disappointed.

@@ArmUkraine I'm 110% behind arming and supporting Ukraine, especially given the recent lack of support from the US (hopefully that will change soon) but the UK seriously does not need increased military spending. We are in a cost of living crisis, mental health crisis, NHS waiting lists through the roof. Dealing with those issues and the massive black hole of legalised corruption in the British economy is more important, more pressing patriotic issue than increased funding for the military. That doesn't mean the UK should stop giving Ukraine arms and support though.

cringe

a voucher could be for 30p which is why any voter should be wary of that deliberate word use. What it sounds like but most certainly isn't, is we should be able to use private health care and bill the NHS.

hint...they know they aren't going to be in government so they can promise whatever they want. Same with the greens and other small parties.

Cutting healthcare wait time to zero is a pipe dream, even the awful US "healthcare" system doesn't accomplish that unless you're extremely rich.

Their plan to cut wait times to zero, by handing out private credits. Is genuinely the most moronic thing I've fucking heard as a policy. It'll cost the government vastly more, while fixing very little. If they want a radical reform proposal, I'd go with tearing up the PFI contracts labour started and Tories continued. They're what's really fucked the NHS.

It works in Kent. I’ve had two knee replacements performed at a private hospital yet paid for by the NHS. Didn’t cost me a penny, and the first op was about six weeks after first diagnosis, second op was four months later. I’m very pleased with that.

​@@BigBenn2014whilst I am glad to hear you got your op done promptly. My point is still, why the NHS was unable to do the OP, and would giving a voucher to a 3rd party fix the reason they were unable to deal with you promptly?

Is it? Please explain.

This channel really represents the affluent middle class demographic politically