I'm Tlingit and grew up in Sitka. Thank you for your attention to this story. There is a scholarly study of the 1802 and 1804 battles titled )"Russians in Tlingit America" that gives a much broader perspective, and includes interviews with Tlingits who've maintained oral history of the events as well as trips to Russia to study historical documents not normally available to the West.

I think if Plotnikoff was alive today, he would somehow still get spotted by the Tlingit.

82 years before my family moved to southeast alaska from norway. now i have family that's tlingit, aleut, tsimshian, yupik. it's a cool meeting of cultures with savage warrior ancestors. the battle of sitka was epic. i love this channel! keep up the great work :)

My girlfriend is from Sitka and I know a number of my friends are of Tlingit decent (although from across the border) I appreciate someone giving our regions history some attention

Really interesting. I love these stories of the lesser known parts of the American frontier. Hi from Cornwall, south west UK.

I'm 100% sure that if you keep putting out videos, this channel will have 1mil subs before you know it. Great job! Keep these stories coming!

First off! Thank you! I have never heard of this conflict,more like war! And also never heard of this tribe . what a way to bring this history to life,man this is crazy! So much history lost or just not told. Man I am very grateful I have found you and OKC ,thank you so much! I will never miss a show. Thank you again and I hit like and subscribed.

It’s nice knowing a little more about my heritage Thankyou my guy 👏🏽 Tlingit 4L💯

I lived in Sitka in the early 70's as a child. I was aware of the later battle from the story boards at the park, but hadn't known of this earlier battle.

I am a new Tlingit Haida citizen as my Tlingit grandmother was forced to adopt my father out. That was what the govt liked in the 40s l, when the mother wasn't in "Indian Country." I am absorbing my culture like a sponge as I've missed 50 years of Tlinit/Haida culture.

the tlinget and haida war canoes made regular raids down through british columbia, vancouver island, the puget sound and i believe as far south as the columbia river for booty and brides

Really left us hanging on this one! Please carry on with the other story for another time with what happened in 1804 lol

Gunalchish, Thank you very much for the video, I've enjoyed listening to it. I am a Full Blood Inland Tlingit from Yukon, Canada, and I belong to the (Kookhitaan, Raven Children.) I do my best to gather knowledge of our people. Although we are Inland Tlingit, we have close ties to our brothers and sisters on the coast. Gunalchish, again, I hold my hands up to you. Ho Ho

Yet another excellent video ...thanks for your continuously great work 👍

Interesting. I knew something about Tlingit Canoes, Houses and some of the fishing, and cultural lifestyle, but I never realized they were regarded as very warlike. So thanks for enlightening me on that aspect of their society.

Love the video and channel. Crazy story from history. Keep up the good work 😎

Subscribed, great content.

One of the best KZfaq channels. They absolutely take me places with these stories. Thank you from the bottom of my heart

Very good video, I am looking forward to the next installment of this event. I subscribed.

Back in the day, life was cheap and might made right. We cannot judge the actions of these people by our 21st century standards.

I'd just like to Thank you for sharing your knowledge 💛 with all of us. The work you have done is greatly appreciated. Keep it up and we'll be here to watch!

Good made guys. Many of the russian traders were people like cossacks with decades of experience in the fighting of the "pagans". Forget this episode myself, thx for bringing back. Imagine such a content about the Frontier in Siberia for at least 150 years.. Thx again and for showing that pictures. I've liked and subscribed as always, know a li'l about that stuff. From Northern Germany God's Blessing!

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Correction on the comment of the woman and child running into the forest. It’s not a boreal forest. Southeast Alaska is a temperate rainforest. Js. But great video.

I found this really captivating 👍 thanks for sharing.

Great video covering a much less known part of Alaska history.

I really love learning history. Makes one wonder why we were not taught this in gov. school.........

love the new content!

Thanks for the in-depth look back at a forgotten piece of American history.

"The Sitka Tlingit, and the Pacific Northwest Gun Frontier", "Sealaska Heritage Institute". video of lecture/presentation on youtube. Nice video mister, thanks.

Hello from Sitka, details I’ve never heard before. Thank you.

Excellent video.

Not a lot of beaver in Sitka. Native coastal tribes did not harvest otters in commercial quantities, that was the Russian's goals.

When people discover riches, they move in to get some for themselves. When people have riches, they will defend it. The result is sometimes negotiation, sometimes war, sometimes endless battles outlasting everyone who remembers the beginning of the dispute. It's not necessarily imperialism or colonialism; sometimes it's just people wanting a better life for themselves and their families.

Have been a PNW lifer and never heard of this battle. I love this video and want more.

Thank you.

Great work

Can we get the pt 2 for 1904? Love the channel so much

12:47 watch out, they're bringing more canoes! a classic tale of "f**k around and find out"

As mentioned in a previous video, the native tribes had a vicious culture among themselves that wasn’t based on European sensitivities or cultural orientation. Beheadings, slavery, rape, torture, plunder, etc were commonplace and normal. Russian fur traders were not genocidal looking to kill off the natives, in fact they wanted to use them as an asset and trade with them. The natives on the other hand did want to kill all whites, as mentioned, in the most horrific way possible to not only eliminate them but scare others away. The “normal” culture of one people was savage to another people, but war in all its forms, no matter the details, is savage. The dead don’t feel pain as their bodies are mutilated. It is the sensitivity of the living that is afflicted. Indian warfare counted on that as an inhibitor to further conflict. With Europeans Indian savagery only escalated and aggravated the problem.

Wow you told that story so well I'm a fan of your work.. I need to know what happened from here this is the first story I've heard

Brilliant!!!!

‘History too real for the Westerners’? History, is history. Invariably brutal and yes ‘historically’ scued by the ‘Victors’. That being said, why do we common people of any tribe feel the need to keep twisting the knife. We are talking to each other now. Our common foe are the elites of every creed and colour. We know who they are and they gain power by dividing us. I’ll stand shoulder to shoulder with any man, or woman of character until that ‘individual’ gives me reason not to. I appreciate your content, thanks.

Any chance of getting part 2?

4:33 the horse had to stop to take a shit😂

When l was a young man l worked in logging camps in this area and herd about this.

Fascinating story! This is an area and time period I am not too familiar with, I am glad you are bringing it to light.

Another awesome story I just discovered here.

Have you done one on the Pueblo Revolt? if not can you please make a video on it soon. I would love to see that history in your style. It's a pretty bloody story. Thanks.

Excellent. Just watched Dersu Uzala, eastern Russia is fascinating.

Such is the epic of man. A struggle for resources.

Wonderful history! How about the Seminoles & Creeks of the southeastern US next?

I love the good old Anglo Saxon empire.

It's great to finally see out tribes here in S.E. Alaska finally getting some recognition, the Tlingets and Haidas can be compared to the Vikings w our Lighting raids. The Tlingets being the biggest tribes and then Haidas which where great WARRIORS AS WELL and Tshimsian both would make some great video for your channel

Great story, that's how it has always been it seems when one guy moves into another's turf. I wish it were different.

Just another example of normal human behavior. It really is. It happens all the time, everywhere, since Day 1...

Maybe it is a phase that I am going through but I have really enjoyed watching your documentaries. I find it a shame that people choose to have selective memory when it comes to history. We all watch movies on Vikings or Barbarians but for ignorance we do not tell the truth of what is in these stories. This is history so why can it not be told in film, words and all. It is not taking sides it is just the truth.

Interesting history that is seldom told.

@historyattheokcorral2657 I look forward to more Alaskan content. Really enjoyed your video.

I love your channel

One of the best sites ever !

That would be absolutely terrifying to see all those Tlingit wearing animal heads

Native Americans were just as brutal and land grabbing as the Europeans,the only difference is the native Americans were living in the stone age, while the Europeans were living in the early industrial age,a clash of peoples ,cultures,races and different ways of life and thinking but both brutal and land grabbing.

A good place to check out is the Alaska Historical Society. Native People of Alaska's relationship with Russia - government and people- and their relationship with the Americans - government and peoples.

tlingit and haida were some of the most legendary tribes, the vikings were very similar to them, except the haida and tlingit culture of warefare and sea faring and traditional economies of slaves, blankets, and other inland goods, until the 1880's being one of the last places in the world to fall to pax britannica. They were very capable naval warriors, especially in their dreaded lightning raids. Naval landings (a notoriously difficult military endevour of any size.) with giant canoes hallowed from the massive old growth cedar trees, on average they could hold anywhere from 50-100 people, and many of these medium sized vessels would land on a beach encampments and with the combinations of their multilayered cedar armour, which was layered over a layer of thick animal hides, acted as some of the first bullet proof armour. Russians recall that bullets couldnt penetrate unless shot at very close range, i forget the exact figure but its well in arrow distance. this didnt matter since the tlingit and haida also aquired guns, they were also experienced metal workers, and would modify and engrave blunderbusses, make ammunition for their guns, and other tools out of drift iron, which primarily came from shipwrecked asian vessels. however at some point, chinese began trading with them and the especially wealthy chiefs and warriors would aquire enough chinese copper coins to make into a sort of scale armour. which sat over either a light armour piece made form animal hide or even layered as a third layer over the regular rod and slat armour, which were specially minted for trade in the area due to the fact gold was not valued in most of the north american native cultures. the north west and alaskan coast being no exception. make no mistake the wooden armour was extremely formidable, blades were quite useless, even if one managed to cut through the extremely tough and fibrous cedar wood, your blade, expending most of its energy cutting through the wood, meaning the energy wasnt sufficient to cut the animal hide. So striking blade wepaons such as maces, axes, tomahawks, swords and machete type weapons, were useless. Thus piercing weapons such as spears, and the very valued copper knives and short swords which were used to pierce between the rod and slat planks and through the hide and into the body. As well as blunt weapons, most useful of which was the blacksmith hammer, with would easily crush the wood, and bones underneath them. Its interesting to look at the different styles of armour, helmets especially; they have not only elegant art designs but absolutely fantastic engineering in thoughts of how to disperse energy from a strike of a blade or hammer. The helmets are found in styles from cone/egg shapped, others had like a sort of thing on top to defelct a blade away sort of like the picklehelm had the little pokey thing on top, and theres a few other styles. further more, the lightning raids of heavily armoured warriors, led to a strong defensive foritifcation culture being present along the coasts. this runs so deeply that it influences the designs of doors on long houses, they have two doors, which are made so that one has to bend over and come through, this is so that anyone coming through the door will have to stick their head in and be blind to the warriors standing guard at the door, meaning the guards could easily decapitate any intruder who dared to enter. Fantastic history of this region. theyre one of the areas in canada whos majority of its native population, never ceded land and were never conquered by warfare by the canadians and british, as well as never signing treaties. this has lead to present day conflicts including one of the largest civil disobiences in canadian history, which is still on going: the fairy creek protests. The fairy creek protests are protests taking place in the southern part of vancouver island, in the dihdidaht nation of the nuuchahnulth (a sort of federation of similarly cultured peoples in this part of the island.) BC as well, was home to the Gustafson lake standoff. As well as the current wetusweten crisis which was at the heart of the protests that nearly collapsed supply chains, especially the railways during 2019-2020. As well as many peaceful civil demonstrations by their allies and supporters in cities across the country and even in other countries internationally. Such as the UK, or New Zealand. The wetsuweten crisis is especially a flashpoint in this region. The governments (federal and provencial) have worked hard to crack down on these civil demonstrations and have done so in the wetsuweten territory since 2012, when the oil and gas companies who own the pipeline first began their construction. They had done so without consulting the proper governing body of the wetsuweten; the hereditary chiefs. the wetsuweten, never having ceded their lands, do not have to form band councils. They never formed their own, the current band council was instilled by the federal government, but they only handle adminsitrative tasks in most nations like the wetsuweten. Actual proper governance is done by the hereditary chiefs of each clan. This is the common governance structure in this region, and their authority is much more widely recognized among the native populations here over the band councils. eventually the oil and gas companies selectively consulted a few of the heridtary chiefs but this isnt what is required by law. it required briefing the governing bodies of any projects on land they own (in unceded nations this extends to all territory historically recognized) as well as informing the actual residents of that nation through hearings, consultations and other practices. things youd usually do if you wanted to say drill oil in any other municipality. So to enforce the will of the oil and gas companies as well as other resource extraction projects, the RCMP formed the Community Incident Response Group; Better known as CIRG. The CIRG is a secret task force of the RCMP specially designated to respond to anti-pipeline and antilogging protests like the wetsuweten and fairy creek protestors and their allies. They work closely with Canada's intelligence service; CSIS, to collaborate together to protect the interests of private oil and gas companies in the region. If your further interested in current conflicts in the region you can look at my reply to this comment. Or you can look up the following topics yourself for even more specifics and much more in depth stuff than I could give you. 1. Fairy Creek 2. Gustafsen Lake standoff 3. Shut down Canada and the wetsuweten crisis 4. CIRG/RCMP documents relating to protests available in RCMP archives. (CSIS involvement has less public available info, for obvious reasons)

That’s pretty neat for the English to help the Russians like that

The history of man versus man. “There are no good guys, there are no bad guys. There’s only you and me, and we just disagree.” Song of the Masons.

Those are clips from the movie The Revenant.

damnit! came to learn and have background atmosphere...now each video produces a followup video to a lecture or an audiobook i need to devour. the curse ov learning is an endless burden.

Humans being humans, making history along the way.

There is no hero in the way we see things today. I am a modern warrior, or was a few years ago. It was a different time back then. There was a different outlook on the natural world. The native peoples wishing to preserve their lands and way of life were not wishing to merely be left alone. Had they been they would have quietly killed the livestock and any crops of the Russians and any of them straying too far from their fort until they understood they must leave or starve to death. Massacre might seem like they way to go, however, it will only bring more retribution. When any great power, or any organized group of people really, are angered by a slight they cannot accept , they become willing to spend whatever resources required to right that perceived injustice. Make the cost of doing business somewhere so expensive that it's cost prohibitive and they will eventually leave.

Life was so brutal for everyone back then..

There needs to be more info on interior Alaskan and canadian natives

I reside outside a US Treaty recognized Tribal Nation. Which the US Army protected by building a fort and did halt enslavement of regional Native Americans . Also in cooperation with the British Army and Navy. The homicidal days of the Tlingit were ending. Not without more blood shed until present day literacy allows pride without Tlingit Raiders. If not, Lawyer-up..

Same old story for the last 100.000 years. Nothing has changed. nothing will change. God help us.Great video nonetheless.

does anyone know the name of the British ships

We all know how this story ends for the indigenous peoples of North America. The North American Indians fought valiantly, but, in the end, the were overcome by numbers and superior technology. It wasn’t exactly a fair fight, but those were the Rules of Engagement of that period in time. But the NOIs (in this case the Tglingits) exacted their toll and did not go quietly into the night. But, it must be remembered, the native tribes were not friendly towards each other either. And, the losers of the inter-tribal warfare brutally killed, or ended up as slaves. These were brutal times and tribal people all over the world we’re conquered and exploited. Once again those were the rules of the day. Sad by today’s standards, but that’s the rules they lived by. In some ways, it’s still the same. As we can see in Ukraine.

Another well whole history tale.

Plotnikov would have been an Olympic steeple chase champion.

I wonder how native tribes were so easily and ready to distinguish between the white settlers, traders or trappers of different countries. Of course to a white American a crow and a Blackfoot wouldn't seem so different. But I remember reading how the Comanche and Apache in Texas had no problem with Americans but would kill or kidnap texians on sight. That's an extremely interesting topic to me

If only medieval Europeans had met the Tlingit earlier. They would have defiantly been a civilization in age of empires 2 😂

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4:41 this was many colonials story from all over Europe. They were slaves to their rulers and never wanted to come here and eat caribou in the first place.

Coolest channel ever

Hero? Villain? Human nature down through time and place.

Battle of Sitka 1804 video please?🥺

No good or bad guys. Russians were pushing their luck and there was pushback. The dangers of extracting an unkown area's resources, is that its bound to be considered "home" to others. If the reverse was to take place the same would apply

Katlean is a Great Great Grandfather. God Rest his soul.

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Awesome ! especially when some of us are older than 65 , dammit. 🙄

I had no idea that Russians were coming that early or that native Siberians came at all (people tended to go TO Siberia for furs. Why would Siberians need furs from some place else?)

The villains are clearly the Russians. You don’t steal something that’s not yours.

*Savagery* 😲🤯 history is dark AF.

I like how the Ship Captain knew they were lying and had more hostages. I wonder if they ever gave the Chief back. I wouldn't. Just keep leading them on and and then keep him locked up.

Just desserts yes!

Great video. I have listened to a audio book recently about an English sailor who was a captive of the Nootka for several years and it was fascinating. My knowledge of the Pacific North West and Alaska tribes is pretty limited so, I am really enjoying these new (to me) tales. I certainly side with the Tlingit in defending their territory and resources from interlopers.

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There is the competition for territory. And compassion for Russians shown by the British, though not much for the natives. These British must have been moralistic, because strategically they could gain the territory with help from local tribes, as well as use them as cannin fodder against the Russians

Hi tlingit brothers and sisters

I think being Lingít and being from Shéet’ka. Our ancestors were protecting the land that has been ours for the past 10,000 years. Western culture came in and took resources that didn’t belong to them. When all our ancestors were doing was living in harmony with the earth.