TNflygirl Fatal Crash Update NTSB Preliminary Report N5891J

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This is the remastered/updated video with AUDIO fixed, more clips and additional information.
Time stamp to video of flight with her CFI & ATC 16:54
Time stamp of new clips 1:45
This is the NTSB Preliminary Report on the fatal crash of KZfaqr TNflygirl. The aircraft was a 1965 Beechcraft C33 Debonair. On December 7, 2023, at 11:03am central standard time (CST), a Beech 35-C33, N5891J, was destroyed when it was involved in an accident near Pulaski, Tennessee. The private pilot and passenger sustained fatal injuries.
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My father Mike flew from 1967 all the way up to his 80th B-Day in 2018. Myself (Jeff), grew up as the SIC (Pinch Hitter) for my dad having logged about 550 flight hours but never having a PPC or soloed, got close in the Gruman, everything but :(. Did my first take off and landings at 12yrs old in that Gruman AA1. I received my degree in air Traffic Control and was accepted by the FAA to go to Oklahoma City in the early 1990's. I took a pause and by the time I was ready to get back in there was a hiring freeze on. When that lifted, I was 31 going on 32 and could not get a waiver (AGE min is 31). Aircraft owned: 1955-Tri-Pacer, 1950-B-35 & 1955-F35 Bonanza, 1955 & 1969 Cessna 310/P, 1971-Gruman AA1 and a 1973-B55 Baron. We flew our piston twins for nearly 35 years together. Complex airplanes sure but with the right instruction not only can they be flown safely but it's incredibly rewarding. I grew up on a private 2000ft grass strip (Olinger Airpark OR81) then moved to S36 in 1983, my parents are still there.
NTSB Pilots on the Go Team:
While the Go Team includes specialists from various fields, pilots are not the majority of investigators.
The team comprises experts with diverse backgrounds, including engineering, systems analysis, meteorology, and human factors.
New aviation accident investigators must demonstrate knowledge of aviation techniques and accident investigation, which can be obtained through education and experience.
In summary, while pilots play a crucial role in aviation safety, the NTSB’s Go Team draws upon a multidisciplinary approach to thoroughly investigate accidents and enhance transportation safety.

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@maxtanicfilms 5 ай бұрын

How will we react in a real emergency situation? Will we do as we had trained or become overwhelmed? Unfortunately, one doesn't know until it happens. This very experienced pilot faced this in his Cessna 310 just after takeoff. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7mVo7JnnriUmmQ.html

@joenicotera2991 5 ай бұрын

DON'T BLAME THAT ON HER. She did the right thing, she HIRED AN INSTRUCTOR! 3:43...SHE'S RIGHT, FIRE HIM! "SEE HOW THE PLANE IS DOING 'THAT." "That" is called a --> Dutch roll

@joenicotera2991 5 ай бұрын

See, what happens...plane is, of course before computers...what happens is nobody at the FAA or Beechcraft thought was an actual problem.....all USAF pilots knew how to handle it. You get out of an aircraft that has the wings above the cockpit and you get into an aircraft with the wings below the cockpit. So, the FAA decides you should hire an instructor for your new class of plane. Only your instructor never flew that kind of plane before! He lied...so, he is asking you questions....ABOUT THE AUTO PILOT! Did he ask where the switch is that controls what tank has the fuel in it? Well, any instructor who was old enough to be an instructor in 1965 would know better then to take off without leveling the fuel first! How can that be her fault? She didn't write the instructor's license! So, plane took off 8:30AM, temperature 35 degrees. Once the attitude trim was off it continued to go away until the plane was flying zig zags. Any WW2 pilot would have known what the problem was. The plane flies better upside down!

@eddiemerribaker 2 ай бұрын

Yikes 😳

@thestevenkirk 2 ай бұрын

God knows how she got a ppl. Can’t do straight & level. Pretty girl. Young CFI. We’re all human😮

@PieterErasmus-bm3ms 2 ай бұрын

CFI should have switched off the auto pilot ,pull the circuit breaker and instructed her to fly the aircraft !>

@buckhorncortez 7 ай бұрын

I find it interesting that someone would be that unaware of their personal skill level given the consequences involved. I had a friend who was a Colonel in the Air Force with over 10,000 hours as the first officer of a KC-135 tanker. He retired from the AF and later in life wanted to get back into flying. He pursued that by taking flying lessons in a single-engine Cessna 172 to get certified as a private pilot. I found it amusing given his background, but he said, "I haven't been flying for years and have very little time in a single-engine propellor aircraft." "I need to learn how to fly that kind of airplane." That, I guess, summarizes an attitude difference in evaluating personal skill level and what it means to fly safely.

@raoulcruz4404 7 ай бұрын

Your friend is wise to understand that flying a small aircraft is a different type flying and respects that. Many high time big jet pilots think small airplanes are “child’s play” and sometimes that is fatal.

@Defender78 7 ай бұрын

Jenny didn't want to start in a lil Cessna 172, since it wouldnt look commanding on camera, so she got a mid-range size single engine plane,. I mean, really, the Ces 172 looks dorky, with the top-mounted wings and exposed landing gear, but the plan she drove had the low mounted wings, so it had more of a "P-51 Mustang" look, and looks better in pictures. I'm sure she was hoping to become a KZfaq and IG sensation - the older hot blonde, rockin her Top Gun shades, being the old dog learning new tricks. The trainer pilots knew they were on camera but im sure were star-struck by their attractive trainee, and i'm sure they didn't want to have to bark at or correct an older person. She could have killed multiple innocent people if she landed in a neighborhood or a office building. Edit: I was like Jenny, a few years ago. In my teens, like 12-13 years old, i tried to take up BMXing, jumping ramps and bowls, etc. I couldnt do anything, like catch air, or anythng beyond riding straight and poor bunny hops, so i gave it up. Well, 30 years later, at age 42 i wanted to try it again, maybe the intervening years would provide me the know-how to learn it better, so i bought a used bmx bike and hit up a few skate parks, hanging with the 15 year old to 20 year olds who were flying in the air, maneuvering, etc. Well, after 4 months of virtually no progress (either you can BMX or you can't), other than just some ordinary loops through the bowls, one of the kids told me, that if i don't really master the basics, like bunny hops and 'dropping in' to a bowl, then i will be likely to get hurt. I retired days later, knowing since i don't have the skillset, or coordination to do anything like them. So i sadly but appropriately retired my BMX dreams and continued my existing hobby of running 5Ks and 10Ks... i could have ended up seriously injuring myself or someone else if i continued at BMXing, but i was gracious enough to let it go, unlike Jenny, who was great im sure at other endeavours, but not flying. I see alot of mean comments, taking digs at this attractive lady who was in over her head, but Jenny could have caused more damage and ruined more lives if she kept at it.

@pilotcritic 7 ай бұрын

Jenny started in a Piper Cherokee. She did an okay job flying that. Her nonpilot dad became interested in Beechcraft Bonanzas and wanted her to buy one. So she found the Debonair and he helped pay for it. Throw in some Dunning-Kruger where he tried to act like her copilot, giving her bad advice and confusing her more than she already was, probably led to this crash. At first I felt sorry that she took her father along with her but now I think he contributed to their demise.

@raoulcruz4404 7 ай бұрын

@@pilotcritic Whoever gave her a Complex/ High Performance endorsement did her a real disservice. Or did she even bother to get one?

@kawh8719 7 ай бұрын

I would think that she convinced herself that she understood what she was doing. The push back on correction she gave her father indicates she was never told no. And/or never held responsible for her actions. Kind of reminds me of the story of the back surgeon Christopher Duntsch. Where someone has convinced themselves they are capable of a job they are not capable of. @@pilotcritic

@sammyday3341 7 ай бұрын

She’s like me; pushing on every button on the radio in an unfamiliar rental car until something happens.

@Chuck-se5hh 7 ай бұрын

Yes, she's scatter-brained.

@johngreydanus2033 7 ай бұрын

I thought it was okay for pilots to reference written material, when she says "I forget what that was" , even if she had the quick start up guide handy, you would think she could learn the basics to operate that Auto Pilot. Whoa, he tells her it won't let it stall, it will trim down, wow.

@stevenkeating225 7 ай бұрын

She was having enough trouble just flying the plane, asking her to read the "Quick Start Guide" whilst doing that would have been to much. As for the CFI, well, I just don't wamt to go there.@@johngreydanus2033

@linanicolia1363 7 ай бұрын

yeah !

@a3300000 7 ай бұрын

Poking and praying.

@joe0248 6 ай бұрын

The result of "Fake it until you make it" a popular motto these days

@jimbo1959 5 күн бұрын

In an Aircraft, it's fake it until you die!

@matthewnisbett4058 6 ай бұрын

I started a degree in Aviation and wanted more than anything to become a commercial pilot. I lived and breathed aviation; it was everything to me. After one year of flight training, I was informed that it was evident to the instructors and the Chief Flight Instructor (CFI) that I was struggling with anxiety, and my memory recall was limited. I was heartbroken to be told (gently) that commercial flying might not be my calling. I heeded the advice and discontinued flight training. Ten years later, I now clearly understand that I have higher than normal anxiety levels, and it does affect my performance under pressure. Nevertheless, my love for aviation persists.

@westfieldracer 6 ай бұрын

Nice comment, I enjoyed reading that. U clearly would have made a more competent pilot than this women through your love of aviation. Shame u couldn't have found a way to relieve anxiety but at least u are safe & can enjoy it as a hobby

@tmayorca8770 6 ай бұрын

She does not appear to have anxiety. Glad you were able to move ont. There are plenty of jobs in aviation for you.

@matthewnisbett4058 6 ай бұрын

@@tmayorca8770 she doesn't appear to be very intelligent either. Not everyone is cut out to pilot an aircraft. Just like alot people shouldn't be behind the wheel

@aaronwhite1786 6 ай бұрын

I feel that! I've loved flying since I was a kid, but between anxiety and ADHD, I just realized that digital flying was the only option for me. That way, when i get things mixed up, forget to do something, or space out, it's not a bunch of real lives at stake, but just me and my digital plane.

@ricksmith7659 6 ай бұрын

Your honesty is respected. I'm worried that this insane DEI/diversity hiring pilots will prevent instructors from being honest due to fear of losing their jobs.

@larrybaltz4873 7 ай бұрын

Sad story, but with each video I watch it becomes more and more clear that she had no business flying an airplane. Her technique seemed to be to just push buttons and pull levers until she saw a positive result.

@serverlan763 6 ай бұрын

She could fly an single engine aircraft in the circuit, she had just never properly progressed to Navigation and her attitude about learning was all wrong.

@jeffrojefferson88 6 ай бұрын

@@serverlan763 Anyone with a pulse can hold a yoke and keep a plane airborne for a limited amount of time. She had no business flying anything, and I'd question her ability to safely operate a vehicle. She was clueless the BASIC fundamentals of flight.

@serverlan763 6 ай бұрын

@@jeffrojefferson88 She could land (just) she could fly in the traffic pattern. She would have known the basics, she was just not good and wanted the auto pilot to fly the plane for her. She didnt know how to use the Auto Pilot which was another huge issue.

@mattb6646 6 ай бұрын

I mean that's one way to learn... just not with flying where death can happen quickly

@rbaitis1972 6 ай бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iJeHZNCdktu2hGQ.htmlsi=Vs4uM5emIUNL3yM5

@ourlifeinwyoming4654 7 ай бұрын

It's painful to watch her fly. It seems more effort was invested in making videos than learning to fly sadly.

@bernardanderson3758 7 ай бұрын

All eyes are not outside at all

@AmericanSurvival001 7 ай бұрын

I guarantee you, she spent more time putting her make up on and getting herself ready then she ever spent studying. Somehow she thought three-dimensional flying was the same as just getting in your Toyota, and pulling out of the garage.

@thomasmckendry8566 7 ай бұрын

She looked comical hunched over the controls looking at dials and gadgets like she’s reading Chinese.

@stephen_crumley 7 ай бұрын

@@theplanechannel3857because every video since her accident has had that same exact comment and they know it’s high probability to get massive amount of likes

@AEM-le7uy 7 ай бұрын

@AmericanSurvival001 It does seem that being photogenic was near the top of her priority list.

@ronaldhill7180 7 ай бұрын

I miss the old days when you could tell someone, "You suck! You're not cutting it!" This could have saved their lives.

@davewinch7677 7 ай бұрын

Sad fact that some people handle honesty but we all need it if we want to make smart choices, like how to stay alive.

@stephaniemurria5534 7 ай бұрын

Absolutely

@s1lv3rbordeaux47 6 ай бұрын

You're so right, some how modern society has become a place in which the truth & honest opinions are derogatory & causing insult if used. You are unable to tell someone anything negative in a strait up manner. How possibly a wrapping of cotton wool was deemed or even accepted as benefiting society is a wonder. Though that's the reality we live these days unfortunately.

@malcolmwhite6588 6 ай бұрын

They pretty much were, I am almost a private pilot LOL from a few years back and that’s instructors way generally of intervening to say :”you don’t quite know what you’re doing with that”! any time an instructor ask you a question or says what does that do? that’s his or her way of intervening by saying you need to learn this - all student pilots pretty much know that that’s how it works. In fact you’re explained that that’s how they will intervene, the fact that the instructors have to keep intervening for the safety of the flight, says that she is not keeping up with the aircraft

@jbsack 6 ай бұрын

But that would be so damaging to someone’s ego, we couldn’t do that! IT IS TIME TO STOP GIVING TROPHIES TO EVERY PLAYER AND STOP TELLING EVERY FLIGHT STUDENT THAT THEY CAN FLY. Some people have no business in the cockpit. And this girl, with multiple of the hazardous attitudes and lack of proficiency was an accident waiting to happen. Tragic, but predictable.

@AvgDude 7 ай бұрын

Her problem was pretty simple. She was a terrible pilot. If you don’t understand the concept of trim and keep using an autopilot that doesn’t behave as you expect, and you keep doing the same wrong thing over and over again even when it puts you in a stall, then you are not a pilot. If you’re futzing with instruments while flying in the wrong direction, then you’re not a pilot. You’re a dead person flying.

@OffTheBeatenPath_ 6 ай бұрын

One video she was reading the fuel guage as her trim setting

@barbarachambers7974 6 ай бұрын

She genuinely didn't know what was going on. Also, this was a new plane for her and this just compounded the problem. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

@gator83261 6 ай бұрын

Agree. If you keep doing the basic problem solving analysis and ask 5 Why’s - the root cause probably gets back to her attitude and lack of self-awareness and/or abilities. Problems usually boil down to lack of training, or attitude issues. In her case its probably both…

@lananavan1885 6 ай бұрын

Did she just buy her license,, if I was a passenger once , She seems confused on almost every flight I’ve seen her flying

@dianelitman5956 6 ай бұрын

Dead person flying, sad but true.

@qarnos 7 ай бұрын

The moment where she says, "All I know (about AP) is I have to push this button when I reach my altitude" is very revealing. She didn't understand flying, she was just an automaton repeating the actions she had been told to perform. The reason she never increased power when she told the AP to climb was because no one ever specifically told her she needed to do that, they had only ever told her to increase power when she pulled back on the yoke to climb. The idea that you need power to climb - regardless of which inputs you were giving to make the climb - never registered with her.

@panzerd18 7 ай бұрын

Its almost like she treated trim the same way and in certain stages of the flight she would reach to do the limited trimming.

@qarnos 7 ай бұрын

@@panzerd18I honestly think the AP trim annunciators confused her. She understood "trim up" as meaning "roll the wheel up", rather than, "trim so the nose goes up". If the annunciator had been labelled "pull up" and "push down", this might have registered with her. Again, there is a disconnect in her understanding here. She was interpreting the AP annunciators in a very literal fashion, with no real understanding of what the words "up" and "down" mean in the context of controlling your aircraft. How did this go unnoticed through all her CFI rides and check flights? Who signs this person off to fly as PIC? The system truly failed her, and she is just one of a recent trend of pilots being allowed to fly solo - and even being given ratings - without basic knowledge, like the kid who lost his life recently because he did not understand how to recover from a spin whilst doing solo engine-out practice in a twin!!! I mean... what is going on here? Shake my friggin' head. Such needless deaths. People are being killed by what they don't know they don't know, and the system which is supposed to educate them is failing. Badly.

@smark1180 7 ай бұрын

@@qarnos "If the annunciator had been labelled "pull up" and "push down..." By your own reasoning, she would try to push or pull the trim wheel which obviously can't be done. "roll the wheel up", rather than, "trim so the nose goes up" Huh? That's what happens. What if the plane was a Piper Cherokee?

@qarnos 7 ай бұрын

@@smark1180No, that's not how the trim wheel works. If you roll the wheel up/away from you, you will be trimming into a nose down attitude. Every aircraft works this way, so I don't understand why you are bringing Cherokees into it. I have flown Cherokees and I can tell you, this is how the pitch trim works!

@smark1180 7 ай бұрын

@@qarnos The Cherokees to which I refer have a crank mounted horizontally on the ceiling, not a wheel mounted vertically.

@robnunya572 7 ай бұрын

"I forget what that button does." Sweet mercy, who gave her a license?

@colinreece3452 6 ай бұрын

That button is the injector seat, "What happens if I pres it?"

@user-vd1uz3dj8l 6 ай бұрын

I dropped out of flying school. Man's got to know his limitations. Just not detailed person. Always not paying enough attention, losing stuff etc.

@soupafi 6 ай бұрын

I know someone who took the written test and passed. Did their first flight and decided it wasn't for him@@user-vd1uz3dj8l

@GeorgeCrosley 6 ай бұрын

You mean "ejector"?@@colinreece3452

@johntomasik1555 6 ай бұрын

The DMV.

6 ай бұрын

I wanted to be a pilot, got into the program to be a Continental pilot, took ground courses. Then took first flight in Cessna with instructor. I realized right away it wasn’t for me. I never went back. It’s no joke being a pilot. Takes 100% dedication

@TOMVUTHEPIMP 7 ай бұрын

"Lets climb to 5,000 feet, start randomly pushing buttons and see what happens" - Jenny Blalock.

@tul9033 7 ай бұрын

I suspect she was an alpha outside of the airplane in her daily life. Single, owned her own business, in charge of all aspects of her life. She then gets into flying where she tries to be confident, steps into a plane WAY above her skill level and is totally overwhelmed. Several of her videos display "TUDE" when questioned or challenged especially with her father. I watched several of her videos and never saw her use a checklist of any kind. She rarely made any confirmation calls (rotate, PR, gear, flaps, etc) That CFI is all over the place, touching everything, neither of them know the AP, the clip shown was SO VERY confusing to watch. The CFI may be a good pilot on his own, but seemed to be way out his depth instructing.

@michaelzilkowsky2936 7 ай бұрын

"I suspect she was an alpha outside of the airplane in her daily life. Single, owned her own business, in charge of all aspects of her life." excellent point.

@ShaunHensley 7 ай бұрын

No such thing as an alpha female. As far as that instructor, he was doing way too much. Some men can’t help but to do a woman’s job for them. That mentality needs to change.

@chestpoundingamerikan9540 7 ай бұрын

The business was given to princess by her father, it appeared very incestual.

@alainvosselman9960 7 ай бұрын

Sounds like ur regular control hungry narcissist.. Nothing new, including them involving others in their endeavors... You often see this with mountain climbers, adventurers as well. Started to notice in all sorts of disaster programs. One was about a psychopath jungle 'guide'.. ( he thought of himself as an expert guide ) aweful story, he got people terribly lost, and dragged someone into a very slow death and the guide himself seemingly evaporated without a trace. There's many examples;

@teijaflink2226 7 ай бұрын

Good point and her she was just lost because flying was not something she could control and she just couldn't admit it that even is she was very intelligent and successful that this was over her skills (no one is perfect at everything).

@AEM-le7uy 7 ай бұрын

My take away from her videos is... she was not prepared for anything unexpected. And many things were unexpected to her. Because she knew so little about aviation.

@paulrhodesquinn 6 ай бұрын

She didn’t even seem at all prepared for the expected - like trimming the aircraft, using AP and communicating with ATC.

@soupafi 6 ай бұрын

I have a feeling she heard "prepare to copy a number" a few times @@paulrhodesquinn

@crashburn3292 6 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing. Imagine if she had an engine stall, or hell, lost 50% power after takeoff, or, if she got caught in some clouds and lost the horizon for a couple minutes. For her, anything like that would've been a death sentence, yet somehow she had her PPL.

@AEM-le7uy 6 ай бұрын

@crashburn3292 Exactly 💯. An engine stall is unexpected. But you should be prepared in case it happens. I doubt that she was.

@rtqii Ай бұрын

@@AEM-le7uy She paid a mechanic to make sure the engine did not fail. So if it did fail and she crashed because of it, it would be the mechanics fault, not hers... So that's not a problem here for her.

@stischer47 7 ай бұрын

She reminds me of those people when they can't figure out what is happening on their computer, start pushing keys hoping something will happen. Then, when you ask them what they did, they say they didn't press any other keys.

@weewooweewoo906 6 ай бұрын

yeah. harmless with a PC, not harmless when you're flying a plane

@kimtongo3533 Ай бұрын

That is so so so truth!!!!!☀️☀️☀️

@iadcrjca 7 ай бұрын

Talk about the blind leading the blind. As has been said, this is just painful to watch. Neither one of these two belong in an airplane. He had no idea what he was doing and he’s trying to teach her. The FAA really needs to get involved in this. SMH 🤦‍♂️

@slange455 6 ай бұрын

Guy on the right was an instructor he at least knew how to fly she was clueless…crash was with her dad not sure of his experience

@gregai8456 6 ай бұрын

This is what happens when the aviation industry promotes the CFI pyramid scheme as an entry level job.

@KrikkitWarlord 6 ай бұрын

@@slange455 iirc he was completely untrained

@maxflight777 6 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly… He’s like a male version of her !! F’ing clueless!! 😂

@MrMustangrick 5 ай бұрын

Scary.

@k9spjack 7 ай бұрын

It appears that she hand picked a Instructor that was intimidated by her and didn't have the guts to tell her what she needed to hear!

@MrTruckerf 7 ай бұрын

@allinfun829 Bingo! You nailed it.

@chuckschillingvideos 7 ай бұрын

I'm sure she smiled real nice at him and wore a low cut top and that's probably how she got through life.

@vegashdrider 6 ай бұрын

@@chuckschillingvideosexactly! It’s called hot privilege, she was obviously a narcissist, who worries about Instagram videos more then flying a fucking plane!!!

@robertthegrape2192 5 ай бұрын

If this young man was a CFI he didn’t seem to know much about the auto-pilot or the aircraft. Whenever I was asked by a pilot help him or her learn their AP I always asked for the operation instructions and read them cover to cover. Many of the ops manuals were not written well and could be as confusing as hell. I would always let them know that I didn’t know about the operation of the AP, if that were the case, and we would learn together. If that wasn’t suitable I told them that they could find a better instructor and my feelings wouldn’t be hurt.

@SilentThundersnow 5 ай бұрын

Yeah. She pushes back every time anyone tries to tell her anything. You can see the kid is intimidated really easily by her.

@jefferyyounce5372 7 ай бұрын

Her CFI seemed just as confused as she was. I can see the NTSB investigators now just shaking their heads wondering why she was turned loose with a machine she had little to no knowledge of. I really feel bad for her and her Dad. What an unavoidable accident.

@aviatortrucker6285 7 ай бұрын

Her CFI in the video was not a CFII. Probably wasn’t even instrument current because he wasn’t even proficient enough to understand. He crossed a minimum crossing altitude at a lower level, violated an ATC instruction and read back a clearence incorrectly. Yes it was a beautiful day outside but if they had been in hard, IMC, that could’ve meant the difference between a safe outcome and being pried out of a cell phone tower.

@markiefufu 7 ай бұрын

I think she was a narcissist and picked young inexperienced (and cheap) CFIs. I have a feeling she doesn't like to be told what to do and preferred to be in charge, no matter how incompetent she was. She picked these young guys because they would be more amenable.

@teijaflink2226 7 ай бұрын

Watching her videos I didn't at all get the impression that she loved to to be in charge but rather the other way around that she was too scared to take charge, which she should have if she actually wanted to learn something but she had difficulties telling the instructor who was controlling the situation rather than her.

@MakeItTooBigToRig 7 ай бұрын

@@markiefufuYup, agreed. That's a touchy subject so I try to stay away from it. But yes, she reminds me of women who become massage therapists because of the constant opportunity to receive sexual affirmation by being craved and chased all the time. Especially from younger men. I think that was occurring here.

@shadowdog500 7 ай бұрын

@@aviatortrucker6285 Believe it or not he is a CFII / MEI and as of September 2023 he is a First Officer (AKA Co-Pilot) for American Eagle.

@nursenick06 7 ай бұрын

The first part with the CFI made it PAINFULLY obvious that neither one of them understood the airplane and had no business trying to do instrument instruction until they knew how to actually operate the airplane. Just watching her fly (or attempt to fly) made me want to scream, but that CFI didn’t have the wherewithal to recognize her inability to even control and stay ahead of the aircraft and properly pull the plug on what they were doing and maybe help her establish some personal limitations to adhere to before getting back into instrument training. She was as lost as last year’s easter egg in that airplane, sadly. Yes, this is a failure on her part, but an even bigger training failure on the CFI’s part. So sad.

@ILSRWY4 6 ай бұрын

"I guess he saw we were too low or something.." What the hell was that statement from this CFI? Seriously? What do you mean "you guess" On instrument approaches you are not allowed to bust a minimum altitude by even 50 feet, and you were nearly 1000 feet too low, and you didn't catch that? And then surprised when ATC did catch it, and corrected it? Students are a reflection of their instructors and she was only flying the way she was tought.

@nursenick06 6 ай бұрын

@@ILSRWY4 My thoughts exactly. I would be curious to know how long she has been with that instructor.

@flyguy5941 6 ай бұрын

Actually, she had more than one CFI. You could tell from other videos. How in the world did she ever pass a check ride? Who were the CFIs that signed off on her? To me, She was NOT qualified to fly anything more complex than a 150, and even then, I would never have flown with her in the left seat. There needs to be a thorough investigation into everyone who trained her, including the check ride. I’m glad she didn’t kill anyone on the ground or in another plane.

@nancyjones9404 6 ай бұрын

Are the CFI's afraid to correct her or offer suggestions, they didn't sound competent either.

@garofani4 Ай бұрын

@@nursenick06She had at least 3 CFIs. She assumed the stance that her instructors were hindering her progress, rather than she lacked the skillset to make a good pilot.

@DeeEight 6 ай бұрын

Almost all her flying videos are now hidden on her channel, as likely her family has moved to take control of the channel and block people from seeing just how many mistakes she made while flying. Even stuff from her initial pilot training three years ago are now hidden.

@jaysmith5047 6 ай бұрын

They may be planning lawsuits. She flew for the clicks but killed her father. My condoleces to her family who probably knew all to well what she was like.

@6821hominy 6 ай бұрын

It could be the family removing them, or could be the attorneys suggestion. Regardless, it’s good that they were up as long as they were people have saved them in their emails, such as I did to view them again. All of what what she did is good learning for a new pilot to know what not to do. I hope they will scrutinize on letting people like this get through the system and get a private pilot certificate without knowing what they need to know. I studied for countless hours on end to pass for my private license in 1989. I use the old-fashioned way of navigation with charts not GPS is and all of today’s gadgets that do the work for you. It was real flying back then. She was going to fast forward with too fast of a plane, and wanting to act beyond her skill level .

@gilmangus83 6 ай бұрын

The family is just trying to protect her credibility by not allowing two many experts knowing what a flop she was as a pilot. My guess is the family wants a lawsuit, but they start with an incompetent pilot.

@carolinerothenberg3982 5 ай бұрын

I think her family would possibly help a lot of pilots in training if they left those videos online. People can learn what not to do from them and just how seriously one must take their instructions.

@aviatortrucker6285 7 ай бұрын

Evidently she was a private pilot. That means a CFI or a couple of CFI ‘s along with a DPE signed her off and she got her certificate. Unless she earned it with her good looks. The problem was first off, when she bought that airplane nobody properly checked her out in it. She should have known everything there is to know about that aircraft. I observed there was no use of any checklists for any stage of flight. The CFI in the video if he is a CFI seem to be confused about crossing a required fix at a certain altitude. It’s nice and clear and comfy out there in that video but what if she was in real IMC . This is why we have altitude restrictions and we must adhere to them or we will wind up wrapped around something sticking out of the earth. Out where I’m at, I wanted to rent a Debonair but was told I would have to get five hours of training in it, even though I have close to 700 hrs and 30 hours in multiengine, or belong to the Bonanza Society and let their course that they offer teach me everything about that airplane. I guess we could all speculate what went wrong, the many factors that lead up to the incident and the tragedy that it was. But we must all learn from it and not make the same mistake. This is not about condemning Jenny this is about learning not to be a Jenny.

@dhal22 7 ай бұрын

Good looks?

@jimdavis1939 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, my favorite part was where they crossed that required approach fix 900 feet too low and neither one of them were the least concerned about it. Her I understand, she was in a constant state of confusion, but for that instructor to react the way he did is unconscionable. As you said, damn good thing they were not IMC.

@6821hominy 7 ай бұрын

I agree with everything you said. I received my private pilot certificate in 1989 when I was about 34 years old. I no longer fly. But I had an excellent instructor and I recall when I was interested in learning to fly a Cherokee 180 he immediately said by the manual and read it which I did then of course I was checked out to fly that airplane And felt safe enough to do so . I feel horrible for Jenny and her dad Losing their lives the way they did

@j.w.8663 7 ай бұрын

Do you know what you call a doctor who graduated at the bottom of the whole class? A: 'Doctor'.

@compwiz101 7 ай бұрын

Her first CFI was definitely just running up hours to get his commercial ticket; he habitually did things for her to the point that she actually fired him and went to find a new trainer because she realized she wasn't learning anything.

@waynegnarlie1 7 ай бұрын

This is horrifying. She is clearly mentally overwhelmed, and sounds very anxious. Please someone assure me that she is the extremely rare exception to the private pilots flying over my neighborhood on a regular basis.

@DAS-Videos 6 ай бұрын

I live near a small airport. In many many years there were only two accidents which were relatively recent. One the plane ran out of gas and landed in a tree, and one the plane aborted the landing, clipped a tree and landed near houses. Miraculously nobody got seriously hurt. The one in the tree the pilot didn't get a scratch. A plane diving into the ground Like Jenny did practically never happens. It takes hard work to do that. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbiDgpth26ybeqM.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p5pjdtt4rJzDkas.html

@geekfreak618 6 ай бұрын

From what I have seen on KZfaq alone this is far from rare. The Busch beer family has a member who cannot fly his helicopter worth a darn, yet he does all the time. Cops grabbed him at least once for drama, but his money set him free to fly again.

@douglasdixon524 6 ай бұрын

The fight instructor is also terrible. He misunderstood the ATC and he didn't notice that the flaps were still extended for landing while they're trying to climb. He also didn't notice that they were almost 1,000 feet below where they were supposed to be, terrible instructor.

@scapilot1980 6 ай бұрын

This is the symptoms of getting in an airplane that you're not qualified to fly and thinking you're above the law of average. What you're witnessing here is a sub par pilot flying a complex piece of machinery. She could afford it, so she thought that was all that was required. After viewing some of her videos, I wouldn't have trusted her in a Cessna 150. Much less this. She had zero business in the air as a private pilot.

@waynegnarlie1 6 ай бұрын

@@DAS-Videos Thanks for that!

@chuckschillingvideos 7 ай бұрын

She was completely inept and incompetent and should never have been issued her PP cert, let alone been receiving instrument training. She hadn't mastered basic aircraft control and had no clue about the fundamentals about how aircraft move through the air. That CFI should have been smacking her hand every time she tried to touch the autopilot since she couldn't keep the airplane in the air without it. What a disaster.

@damham5689 6 ай бұрын

My uncle was a CFI with multiple ratings for 35 years. A couple years back he just quit flying because , in his words " there's just to many god damn morons flying nowadays"

@cathulhu3772 6 ай бұрын

I feel the same on a yacht.... Too many morons without basic knowledge.

@vegashdrider 6 ай бұрын

Flying, driving, voting, you name it. Ever since social media the whole country has lost 50 IQ points

@Sternodox 3 ай бұрын

Same reason I stopped riding motorcycles after 50 years.

@Tarheel13 3 ай бұрын

Wasn’t it his job to teach them not to be morons?

@Craigjordan121 7 ай бұрын

I’d look at the CFI thoroughly. It’s obvious he was as lost as she was.

@BleakVision 6 ай бұрын

That guy was in survival mode, he basically had to fly the plane himself by commanding another persons body to do all the inputs, while having to keep up with all her screw ups. From I can gather she knew how to go up, down, left, right but managing trim and the engine power to maintain level flight was completely beyond her. As was the auto pilot, which is so primitive in this plane that it doesn’t reduce her workload at all, rather changes it in ways that she doesn’t understand.

@sparty837 7 ай бұрын

The simple fact was she was flying a complex airplane with advanced avionics and she wasn't qualified. Today, it is so easy to learn these things in a simulator and know them inside out before going up in a plane (I have a cheep X-plane sim and can setup any aircraft with any avionics and practice at home). Trying to learn them while flying with camera's is the worst possible scenario I can think of.

@TOMVUTHEPIMP 7 ай бұрын

Advanced avionics? They were antiques.

@encinobalboa 7 ай бұрын

I agree with learning on the ground in the sim. Avionics in sim always work 100% and gives predictable and repeatable results to inputs. If autopilot is not working correctly while in the air, an inexperienced pilot may not recognize this because she is conditioned to trust the equipment. This wrongly placed trust occurred with the Ethiopian 737Max crash. Pilots in that accident kept turning on the autopilot and could not recognize that AOA was not working.

@marcK599. 7 ай бұрын

@@TOMVUTHEPIMPyou know what he’s trying to say

@OptomPilot 7 ай бұрын

Flying with cameras while learning is actually a good idea if you use them as a tool for review and learning from mistakes, not for trying to become an influencer.

@elderbob100 6 ай бұрын

Read the official accident report on the Ethiopian accident. There was no way to turn of the "autopilot" MCAS system, which was a secret Boeing software system, that was undocumented.

@bobweber1558 7 ай бұрын

That Century 2000 AP was installed without "autotrim", leaving it to "prompt" you to manually trim the airframe trim wheel up or down. She was commanding the autopilot by pushing buttons when she should have been moving the trim wheel. She should have been in a 172, with a competent instructor, with all the toys left sitting in the hangar, and learn to fly the aircraft. I found it a challenge to introduce even seasoned pilots to that Aspen display at times, she had no chance with it. Just think how confused she would have been with a new avionics suite, and how scrutinized the poor shop would have been when that smokin hole would have been investigated.

@chuckschillingvideos 7 ай бұрын

Which is piloting 101. Her very first flying lesson should have emphasized trimming the aircraft for straight and level and adjusting same for each change in altitude, power, etc. That she seems so utterly oblivious to this and the CFIs never corrected her poor characteristics in this regard is baffling to me.

@AndyKimbel 7 ай бұрын

Not only is she so far behind, how the heck is the CFII so far behind? This is unreal. Low time CFI not appropriately qualified to be in this position in this aircraft. The CFI should have been way ahead of this . He is obviously not aware. Very poor airmanship here. I can't fully blame Jenny in this specific series of pilot operations.

@KrikkitWarlord 6 ай бұрын

Fully agree here. Just sitting and watching the CFI he's really far behind here for whatever reason, doesn't even pick up that she's well below requested altitude and that's why they were told to go around

@vegashdrider 6 ай бұрын

That’s how she got singed off, she went through several CFIs and finally found one green enough that she could sweet talk into signing her off. I’m sure the ones that didn’t are shaking their heads that someone did

@annaburke6164 Ай бұрын

She fired the more qualified one because he was being hard on her. Which she needed.

@Barrie562 7 ай бұрын

It's really incredible how ANYONE who saw these videos as they were made or soon after especially family or close friends who may have made no attempt at grounding her, if not legally but certainly convincingly and to give her advice to get more, a lot more training esp on flight simulators and knowing exactly what every instrument and control meant on the panel and what it did, before ever getting back in an airplane. She could still be alive today, so sad. It also looks as if the CFI's were no help whatsoever, in fact just the opposite of help.

@jcc6789 7 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly which i stated somewhere on one of her videos-i watched them all before many were removed. Also, i saw on one of her video comments someone asked if her dad was a pilot and she said no, he was not. I believe lots of folks think he was. I can't imagine the grief his wife is in - losing her beloved husband and her daughter.

@pilotcritic 7 ай бұрын

@@jcc6789 People think he was a pilot because he kept trying to help her, and she kept asking him for help. Ridiculous. She clearly was a lackluster pilot especially of that Beechcraft but they might both be alive if he didn't act like he was her copilot! In another video she says he encouraged her to look at Bonanzas when she started flying.

@malcolmwhite6588 6 ай бұрын

@@jcc6789 what thought they said he was an ex airline pilot with thousands of hours that’s why I was surprised, he didn’t intervene

@missychan63 6 ай бұрын

Apparently people did try to tell her but she just had too much ego- I've only been following this story for a couple of weeks so I could very well be wrong but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that she went through quite a few flight instructors or at least stomped her pretty little feet and threw temper tantrums when they tried to tell her she was not ready to do the things she was doing.

@undersea800 6 ай бұрын

@@missychan63 Us ordinary plebs often forget what magic can come from a wad of cash being thrown around. i.e. idiot rich people and their yachts/speed boats/airplanes. Especially when said cash is dangled in front of CFI's not being paid enough to put beans on the table. A few moneyed up enthusiasts eager to throw money at their own incompetence can carry a young and dumb CFI a long way. Too many figure they can play along, carry the weak student, get paid, bank the flying hours toward a regional airline job and then let someone else be the jerk who breaks it to her. Essentially selling their signatures in return for cash and flying hours. Even on the professional track, there are plenty of scary weak pilots who don't get 'the talk' until after they've failed a check ride or two with regional or major airlines. That's way too far to let it go. When a person's self esteem and feelings are more important than the truth, the Dunning Kruger effect intensifies beyond belief. Especially when there is a conflict of interest with the gate keepers. To be fair, it can also work the other way as well. A CFI milking students for hours by refusing to sign them off.

@kcindc5539 7 ай бұрын

Jesus … her complete lack of skills is evident in the first 15 seconds - it was clear she doesn’t know how to hand-fly the airplane. She’s fixated on pushing buttons meanwhile the aircraft is in an increasing bank to one side, then descending, the banking the other side, again descending…. the entire time it doesn’t appear she looked out the windscreen at all.

@JAleksandr 7 ай бұрын

Different sport, but I am so thankful for my tech diving instructor (for diving well below and outside recreational dive limits) being such an honest and unforgiving instructor in all my certifications with him before his retirement. Absolutely NOTHING went unchecked and I wouldn’t get passed on anything until EVERYTHING was done perfect. If I missed a single action, check or maneuver, slipped buoyancy or trim for even a split second I would have to repeat it ALL perfectly several times before any kind of sign off prior to my cert dives-the had to run those perfectly! Not an ounce of leniency should be given in any certs that involve life threatening activities and anyone trying to get into those activities should have a thick enough skin to handle honest and sometimes harsh criticisms or realities.

@blackbeardsghost6588 7 ай бұрын

When I was being trained in the Navy on the T-34C Mentor, my on wing instructor would continually hound me about airspeed, heading and altitude. It's a complex airplane with a very powerful yaw around the vertical axis when power changes are made. And my instructor(s) ALWAYS warned us to NEVER "ham fist" the airplane. I was taught to hold the controls with the same grip you hold a pencil with. Three fingers. If you needed more than that, then you probably aren't trimmed up properly. Looking at the cause of her fatal accident, I keep being reminded that trimming the plane should be of utmost importance - the last thing you need to be doing is wrestling with hundreds of horsepower AND trying to think in three dimensions plus time. "Aviate, Navigate, Communicate" in THAT ORDER. She was having a tough time with Aviate, and her CFI was struggling with Navigate and Communicate. Time to get back to the BASICS.

@mipmipmipmipmip 7 ай бұрын

"aviate, navigate, communicate" but if you're a KZfaq pilot isn't "comment, like, and subscribe" more important?

@annielambac 7 ай бұрын

@@mipmipmipmipmip 😁✔️😂

@tmayorca8770 6 ай бұрын

This plane does not have the same yaw dynamics ad the T-34 though

@blackbeardsghost6588 6 ай бұрын

@@tmayorca8770 Exactly. And that's the point. That little plane should be EASY to trim properly, with a simple move of one dial (but to be honest, we almost never touched the rudder trim either - by the time you did, the power adjustment caught up with the rudder forces and you were back in trim). If your heading, airspeed, and altitude are all correct, you'll have a much easier time catching up with the plane even if you get way behind. When you don't feel like you're wrestling an alligator, it's much easier to think about navigation and communication. Finally, if the control forces feel wrong to the A/P and the plane is starting to porpoise, you disconnect the A/P, trim the plane, and fly by hand, at least until everything settles down.

@hawkeye681 2 ай бұрын

VT-2 1987.

@gxd4b1 7 ай бұрын

Yesterday I was watching one of her videos where the passenger door came open and she took off, and her Dad had to hold the door till it landed. Then at the end of the vid she laughed and said its happened 4 or 5 times ...... apparently preflight checks are more of a 'if you feel like it' to her. How do you have doors open on you during takeoff 4 or 5 times?

@chumpthetraitor7331 7 ай бұрын

In another video the CFI pointed out that she failed to check the door and she hardly paid attention to the criticism. 400 hours of bad habit.

@MrTruckerf 7 ай бұрын

Seems like her seat slid a time or two, also. Checklists? We don't need no stinking checklists!@@chumpthetraitor7331

@teijaflink2226 7 ай бұрын

How can you forget a door even one type, I'm surprised her dad even dared to fly with her.

@jlh9910 6 ай бұрын

airplane doors are notorious for not closing all the time.. IN my Cirrus sr 22 this is an issue as there is a technique to close it from the inside and passengers dont alwys get i it right.. so after a few doors pop open. which is no emergency just loud wind noise. but you have to go around the patter land and close it so it a waste of time if your IFR its a bigger issue. But that all said I always followed my passengers into their seat and personally close their door from the outside to insure a tight latch. What is really bad on older aircraft is if a seat belt accidentally gets closed on with the belt hanging out the door that will beat the crap out of he side of the airplane and the startle factor is very real. @@teijaflink2226

@haroldreardon1407 6 ай бұрын

Apparently she learned to ignore safety items and danger points from her dad. I assume it became a lo g time habit. Many people do the same thing.

@ROTAX1 7 ай бұрын

It is very clear, this gal did not know what she was doing. And the child flight instructor didn’t know much either. he is asking her what things mean, and she can’t remember. The result of that activity is a crash.

@WorldTravelA320 3 ай бұрын

Or he was playing possum and seeing if she retained anything. I've done that with students.

@seattlebicycler3657 6 ай бұрын

Your analysis is spot on! She was in way over her head for that particular airplane and for flying in general. It appears she was constantly fumbling around with the control’s in search of a resolution to a problem she should have known how to handle. You simply cannot do that while flying a plane. Personally I would never have felt comfortable having a CFI that young with me. I always preferred an older more experienced CFI. But as my father who was a retired pilot always said … ninety five percent of all air disasters are pilot error. And this is another perfect example.

@jlr3636 7 ай бұрын

It is hard to watch TNFly without comparing her videos with the videos from a few other young lady pilots. The major difference is with two of the other pilots they seem very confident, explaining as they fly, they seem to want the videos to show their level of confidence and professionalism. With TNFly her videos were videos or making mistakes, attempting to figure out the AP as she flew, getting warnings from ATC. My question is, was that how she wanted to stand apart, did she want to portray herself as a person that could overcome the problem, was it a storyline where she had problems with the AP, then got it replaced and overcame the problem. Most people want to portray themselves as a confident individual, her videos were the opposite. Tragic ending.

@doubleboy2388 6 ай бұрын

I think she was such a dingbat none of that registered with her. I think maybe she thought what she was doing was normal. Crazy

@Raelven 6 ай бұрын

That's a great question. I think she probably didn't know the answer, herself.

@jefferyyounce5372 7 ай бұрын

As much as TNflygirl liked to be in front of the camera, perhaps more than flying herself with the instruments in the background. This should be the easiest NTSB investigation ever. A perfect flight training example of, What NOT to do.

@user-zp6es4gt4n 7 ай бұрын

All of her flights were short and not far from the airport. It appears she was only interested in making KZfaq videos than flying the airplane.

@qarnos 7 ай бұрын

@@user-zp6es4gt4nSorry, but you are just stupid. Either that, or you are just reguritating the view you think will get you some likes. Not from me.

@EatDrinkBeMerry 6 ай бұрын

They found two intact video recording devices. My question is will they summarize what the footage shows in the final report…

@HiThere-jn9me 6 ай бұрын

@@user-zp6es4gt4n I know a lot of KZfaqrs that are dead because of that.

@garystewart3110 6 ай бұрын

@user-zp6es4gt4n KZfaq pays money, whereas flying costs money

@davidmangold1838 7 ай бұрын

I know she didn’t understand everything about her autopilot, from the manual. Her cfii doesn’t have much experience in bonanzas, and I don’t think he ever read the autopilot manual. All climbs should be at about 24”/2,400 rpm. She’s always climbing at less than 24”. She never seems to adjust mixture as she climbs. And she’s not knowing whether to roll her manual trim wheel forward or backward, depend on phase of flight. When trimming, you don’t look at the trim wheel; you feel for it, move it the correct way, and feel/see if the plane is doing what you want it to do. During much of her flight and the last few minutes, her track was always quite good. That leads me to think the autopilot was on for most of the flight. But the vertical profile and speed control was bad the entire flight. It seems that using the autopilot in a badly mistrimmed state, then disengaging it, is when all vertical help, went away, pitched her down abruptly, she got nervous and didn’t know how to recover; power, pitch, wings level, pull back smoothly. In hindsight, from her first lesson, she should have flown with a great cfi, in a J3 cub, with minimal instruments. She would have learned via needle, ball and airspeed and lookin out the window, the basic physics of flight. She muddled through flight training, demonstrated the minimum standards, passed her PPL, but just didn’t understand flying 100%. She got some experience flying around without an instructor, did that good enough to not crash. Then she bought the high performance debonair, had a mediocre checkout, flew a little bit on her own (all okay and legal), then jumped into instrument training with a very inexperienced cfii, who himself didn’t fix her inadequacies in basic airmanship. It’s difficult to become instrument rated, when so many basic airmanship skills are not are not known. Dave, 55 years flying and bonanza owner😞. RIP

@chuckschillingvideos 7 ай бұрын

She had no business even touching the AP given her deficient level of competence hand flying.

@Raelven 6 ай бұрын

Bonanza is a beefy plane, like going directly to driving a high performance sports car on the freeway, after learning on a 1972 VW Bug in the closed down KMart parking lot.

@wlingrell 7 ай бұрын

Very sad. But this poor lady did not seem to have the understanding of a lot of the controls and instruments. My condolences to her family and friends.

@diversherwood9631 7 ай бұрын

This is a sad story. The same thing goes for scuba diving...it's not for everyone and some people should stay away from it.

@TheRegkim0728 6 ай бұрын

Totally agree, Darwinism at its best!!

@jessenorris8621 7 ай бұрын

Where in the world did she find this CFI? A CFI should let the student do something wrong and see how long it takes for the correction to be made unless it's something unsafe. I am not a CFI but I have trained a lot of co-pilots and on empty legs I would let them fly and all I would do was work the radios. If they made a wrong turn at a VOR, I would them go and only ask where this will take us. Sometimes the controller would ask if everything was all right; then I would let him answer that question. This CFI was flying the airplane for her and causing her to not learn anything. Little things like pushing a button for her is not helping her at all. This CFI should share part of the reason for her crash!!!

@sharihazlett3774 6 ай бұрын

She fired the CFI. Actually 2 of them. Bad to let her video this. More worried about taping than doing the flying. Hopefully we learn from this so people don't die

@chaseface1337 6 ай бұрын

You can see when she flies with her dad she is expecting him to provide the same level of support in-flight as her CFI…. But he wasn’t even a pilot. Awful.

@gxd4b1 7 ай бұрын

Note to everyone, literally in the last hour I can see 3 of her videos have been switched to private (not including the bunch they made private a few days ago) ... so it looks like the family is trying to hide any videos that show her flaws (in which case they should just deleted the channel as she was awful at everything).

@MrTruckerf 7 ай бұрын

I am surprised the channel wasn't deleted within hours of the crash. But I imagine that is coming.

@gr8emama 7 ай бұрын

They also removed all videos more recent than 8 months ago. There should be recourse against her estate for the costs of the government officials that had to be involved w the emergency response, cleanup and investigation. Why should the government be out taxpayer $$$ for the criminal actions of someone this unaware of her skills ?

@DZ-rg7jt 6 ай бұрын

The NTSB will get all the videos from you tube. It will be interesting to see what the pull off the cameras from the crash.

@Vinny8El611 6 ай бұрын

They will milk the channel and hide evidence

@YellowAA-5 6 ай бұрын

More likely it has legal ramifications for the CFI and this is on lawyers orders or requests from the feds. Or the family is tired of all the internet editorial.

@tna2me197 7 ай бұрын

What’s actually more painful for me to watch in the first part of this video is the lack of understanding the CFI has if the autopilot operation. I get it. I’ve been there. But he’s trying to figure it out on the fly (literally). This lesson would have been a lot more efficient if there had been a little more preflight ground instruction.

@ChrisMullis785 7 ай бұрын

The fact that the ‘instructor’ she had didn’t know the auto pilot system himself while trying to teach her was sad. A buddy that has this same aircraft and autopilot said that it only has heading and altitude hold … trim and power are manually controlled

@Darkvirgo88xx 7 ай бұрын

The first video that is a CFI doing everything for her. Then she made a video where she fired him. Then I believed like a week or so after she had the fatal crash. She was holding buttons on the autopilot when you were only supposed to press them once. The day of the accident the avionics upgrades she was going to get included another autopilot system. She made a video prior asking her viewers what autopilot to get. I personally wouldn't ask anyone on youtube I dont personally know questions like that.

@Romenet310 7 ай бұрын

“I don’t know what it means””?? The Instructor is asking??? This is nuts.

@JcraftCharger 5 ай бұрын

@3:05 I think he may have been 'testing' her. ATT means attitude. You're right, if he did know this, as he must have, he should have advised her. She too, of course, should have 100% known what ATT means.

@waynemenzi4288 7 ай бұрын

She always seemed behind the airplane. Atc was always correcting her. These people didn't know what they were doing. That was too much airplane for her!

@HiThere-jn9me 6 ай бұрын

Just imagine if she had a small Gulfstream jet airplane.

@secondrule 6 ай бұрын

I think even a C-152 would have been too much for her. For her to NOT know that to climb she should give more power blows me away! If she didn't know how to operate the AP, then don't use it. She crashed because she was incompetent - not because of the plane, but because she was incompetent.

@bees5461 6 ай бұрын

@@secondrule In some videos she shows that instead of comprehending what she's doing and why she's doing it, she just memorized. Like when she when he asked what "ATT" means she said "I don't know, all I know is if (something) happens I press this button". She memorized that when she pulls back the yoke to climb that she gives the engine more power. She never put two and two together to understand that any time she climbs she needs to apply more power. That is a lack of comprehension that comes from just memorizing pull yoke, add power. Fatal for a pilot. You have to understand what you are doing while piloting a plane or end up like Jenny and her dad.

@alvinmortimer7536 6 ай бұрын

That is scary that people with so little flight experience can take to the skies 😮

@braddarnell736 6 ай бұрын

She didn't belong on the taxiway, much less the skies. Maybe as a passenger, but certainly not a pilot.

@elderbob100 6 ай бұрын

She had 400 hours of flight experience.

@braddarnell736 6 ай бұрын

@@elderbob100 She had 400 hours of recorded time in the seat. That doesn’t always translate to experience. The thing about experience is, it gives the test first and the lesson later.

@laudennn 5 ай бұрын

play guitar or drums for 400 hours and see how much you still suck @@elderbob100

@laudennn 5 ай бұрын

you can buy anything with enough money, even your own grave

@ellisjames7192 7 ай бұрын

There was one video where she was flying with her dad and she got completely lost. She did not have a clue where she was going or what direction she should have been flying. Her dad said they were flying in circles. She never once called ATC for assistance. That was some scary shit. She could have had a mid-air collision. She laughed about it afterward.

@FutureGamer3 7 ай бұрын

But if watch her last video she was more worried bout texting than flying she killed her dad cause she didn’t have a clue about anything

@6821hominy 7 ай бұрын

I have viewed many of her videos, but I have not seen that one. That is very scary, and I would not have laughed about it afterwards.

@linanicolia1363 7 ай бұрын

Bright, she was not. Delusional , she was. That is not speaking ill of the dead, but telling the truth. She gave a bad name to GA. Insurance is about to go way up......for the poor people who fly these single engine , dated planes.

@JStock-id1qi 6 ай бұрын

Yes to all that. watched one video where she she was lost over the airport that she had just taken off from. All she had to do was look out the window....!!!

@vegashdrider 6 ай бұрын

If you think the flying videos are bad(and they are), watch the one of her driving!

@davidsoom1551 7 ай бұрын

There have been times I've been signed off for an up coming check ride or something and I've told the instructor I wasn't ready. I just knew I didn't have it together so I'd check myself. So we ourselves have to be part of the safety loop and not rely on our instructors for the last word. There is no worse feeling than knowingly being behind the aircraft we are flying.

@jefferyyounce5372 7 ай бұрын

It's better to under evaluate one's self than to over evaluate. It will keep you alive!

@HiThere-jn9me 6 ай бұрын

I am the same way, if I do not feel confident enough and know I am not ready I will tell someone.

@WillaHerrera 7 ай бұрын

There's one very good reason that there isn't a bunch of people running around with private Pilots licenses because it's not something that your average ho-hum person can just do on whim you need to be diligent very diligent with knowing everything there is to know about flying

@pilotcritic 7 ай бұрын

It should be a wakeup call to the aviation community. We like to tell people that almost anyone can fly when it isn't true. Look, most people can't even drive a car properly. Including her.

@WillaHerrera 7 ай бұрын

@@pilotcritic very good point

@jrtruckertruth663 7 ай бұрын

I wonder how much flight time the CFI had before becoming a CFI!

@HiThere-jn9me 6 ай бұрын

Probably little to none.

@McAero08 6 ай бұрын

He is in no way better than her but go hired by a AA regional in the meantime.

@BJ-iv6ly 7 ай бұрын

The CFI was negligent in signing her off solo in this airplane. Her eyes are down almost constantly, the iPad mounting is blocking an unacceptable amount outside view and the cameras are all major distractions.

@elderbob100 6 ай бұрын

I think that she bought the Bonanza after she got her license.

@davidjose9808 5 ай бұрын

Good observation. I also noticed from another of her videos…the horizon tilting as she unintentionally enters a turn…she was oblivious to the changing direction of flight…she never even looked up from her IPad! How did she ever get that plane on the ground safely…on ANY flight??

@stephensams709 7 ай бұрын

Every video that I've watched of her, she is always distracted. The one thing that I was always told was to fly the airplane above everything else.

@WorldTravelA320 3 ай бұрын

The late professional wrestler Dusty Rhodes once said "Don't do shit if you don't know how to do it" A good quote for every situation especially in videos with her

@sophiejaysstuff4026 7 ай бұрын

Can't imagine the cut footage of these flights......

@DrivetoSleep-yo1mk 7 ай бұрын

Good point!

@AudioMasters 7 ай бұрын

LOL yeah i was thinking that in the beginning. What was cut?

@gxd4b1 7 ай бұрын

If you want a laugh, look at her video titled 'ILS Approach to Crossville: Live tutorial (Guidance and Tips) || IFR Training' .....its over 40 minutes long, fast forward to the 39 minute mark and then play ... she has her 'foggles' on .. she is about to land, the instructor tells her to take her foggles off and ... she literally had no idea they were about to land. She literally says those words. She was 20 seconds from landing and yet had no idea she was about to land. Says it all.

@Raelven 6 ай бұрын

What are 'foggles'? I mean, obviously, fog goggles, but is that an actual thing?

@gxd4b1 6 ай бұрын

So they are glasses (no tint) that are deliberately 'fogged' or blurred on the side and at the very top, so you can only see in front of you and only the lower half. So essentially all you can see is the instrument panel, not the world around you. @@Raelven

@aviatortrucker6285 7 ай бұрын

The other night I flew a warrior which I have over 200 hours in that has a STC 30 auto pilot system. This is relatively new to me, but I learned it through reading and using it on the ground to learn what it was going to do. On my first flight out, it worked flawlessly. It held altitude and it tracked very well. This auto pilot like the century 2000 does not have vertical capability only altitude hold. After I landed at my destination, I then continued back to my airport. I reached my desired altitude and trimmed the aircraft where I could fly hands off. I then engaged the altitude hold, and for some reason it was starting to oscillate. First it went about 2° nose down, and when it descended 100 feet it started back up and went about 150 feet high and then started back down so I disengaged it and hand flew it back. I wrote it up in the book I could never figure out why it was doing that as I was not getting a trim up or trimmed down light. To add insult to injury with the auto pilot off and the aircraft trimmed it was holding altitude on its own. Go figure.

@tangotango256 7 ай бұрын

She spent the majority of time fartin with the Century 2000 without any knowledge of it ...and as you said in your experience get to altitude set trim as you stabilize speed and altitude hands free and keep 2 fingers on it just incase of gusts ...her SA was zero chewin gum constantly stroking her hair and griping because ATC was calling out her poor management of the plane ... she'd been better off in a Cessna 172 G1000 that could almost fly itself in a timely manner They would be alive ....Maybe ... she had NO business flying imho ... she looked and acted like she was tranqued and zoned out ...Sad all around

@AmericanSurvival001 7 ай бұрын

Yep and anything else can go wrong and when you think flying is like driving a car you’re doomed the key is you were able to diagnose the problem and figured out quickly before it got to be a problem if it ever was going to be I think in her case she was creating the problem because she was clueless when she walked into the hanger

@idkjames 7 ай бұрын

Tbh i didnt know autopilots came without autotrim. Tbh. Never flown one without it. Though why tf are you using an autopilot without even knowing what attitude hold or how to use it is. Bizzare flight sequence. When i got an avionics upgrade got literally free training.

@ChimeExpress 7 ай бұрын

She did not have confidence in flying that airplane in those videos at all. She was so unsure of herself and unsure of the airplane. Things were not computing. The CFIs weren’t acting much better. You have to be EXACT in all manner in the airplane.

@JB_Hobbies 7 ай бұрын

I have heard that wild oscillations can be a sign of a malfunctioning autopilot that needs service. So, if you are renting and believe you are operating the AP correctly, it may be a good idea to squawk it and have maintenance take a look.

@muhammadsteinberg 7 ай бұрын

Appears that they both were learning how to fly the plane during this flight.

@bradgustafson448 7 ай бұрын

In one of the videos I see her with Foggles on clearly building "hood time" but she was struggling with using the autopilot that as everyone points out she was totally confused on how to use it. Honestly why would a CFI even allow a student to use an autopilot during instrument training? When I did my instrument training I was never allowed to use the autopilot. Sure once you have your Instrument ticket and can very confidently hand fly IFR then you should do extensive training on how to use the autopilot in IMC (but in VFR conditions) then transition to using it IFR.

@fredrohlfing5905 5 ай бұрын

Instrument training should be done largely without Ap until you have demonstrated exceptional and consistent control without it. For actual IFR single pilot flying the AP is a tremendous tool for easing workload and for safety of the flight and passengers. Subsequent to earning the rating, instrument Proficiency Checks generally require demonstration of use of the AP if one is installed. Practically, if flying alone or with an instructor IFR I hand fly. If I have passengers, I use and closely monitor the AP for the best flight experience for my passengers. A good Ap properly used flies better than humans.

@fredrohlfing5905 5 ай бұрын

@MrGunPilot 7 ай бұрын

Sad scenario all around. It's disturbing to think how many "red-flags" went unheeded leading to this accident. Certainly some of the CFI's involved in advising and training her need to consider inner reflection on their own capabilities.

@ronjones-6977 6 ай бұрын

I'm not a pilot and don't want to be one, but I do watch a lot of plane channels. I've NEVER seen a CFI who was as lost as this guy. It doesn't take a rocket seismologist to recognize a poor instructor AND a poor student.

@russpost2557 7 ай бұрын

I think cameras SHOULD be allowed , what a better way to see how a student is doing after you go back and review .

@maxtanicfilms 7 ай бұрын

I agree, I should have clarified. What I meant by best practice is that the CFI should make the decisions based on how the student is doing. Her last CFI kicked cameras from the cockpit as he felt she was distracted by them. She even mentions that in one of her videos, agreeing with that assessment. A 360 camera in all airplanes including transport aircraft would be valuable for training as you say, in addition it would aid in accident investigations. Like cars that have them you wouldn't even know they were there. As far as seasoned pilots that's up to them and I think it's awesome we get to watch. Thanks for the comments!

@linanicolia1363 7 ай бұрын

In her case, it was not used for that purpose. She used it, to gloat about flying....calling herself a girl. She was a middle age woman.......with ADD, for sure. Tragic, really......

@markmize9235 6 ай бұрын

In just a few moments I diagnose the worst CFI I’ve ever seen.No respect for what’s going on. Secondly Boobiitis: not teaching or taking control of a bad situation. Neither one know anything about that AP and flying around ignoring ATC is not the place to be guessing. He’s being the knight in shinning armor instead of pulling her along in her flying skills and getting away from working on something they both have no idea about.

@guidosarducci166 6 ай бұрын

This is as much on the CFI as it is on her. It is the CFI's duty to evaluate the pilot and provide truthful feedback. Whether she would have taken that advice is a question we sadly will never have the answer to that question. A classic example of a pilot who is miles behind the airplane.

@mazeppa47 7 ай бұрын

This is so sad. Deficiency of competence was clearly a causal factor. Moving into a complex aircraft with automation requires a level of competence she clearly did not possess. She just wasn't ready to act as PIC in that aircraft.

@jonheredia8789 7 ай бұрын

The CFI looks more confused than the student pilot....is he really a CFI?

@linanicolia1363 7 ай бұрын

a fool sucking up to her, so she would refer some of her friends, to him.....Ha...ha......

@davidkellymitchell4747 6 ай бұрын

Singer Jim Reeves crashed his Beechraft Debonair 9 miles short of BNA in Nashville in 1964. Another newly acquired private license that was unqualified for any aircraft. Because he was famous he was able to pressure the instructer into issuing his license early. His fame killed him. The other reason I know is within an hour his musical friends that worked in Nashville were all out in the woods looking for him. I was alive and a musician too when it happened.

@jfarill834 3 ай бұрын

Jim Reeves was nowhere near BNA. They were in West TN East of Jackson north of I40. Get it right.

@davidkellymitchell4747 3 ай бұрын

@@jfarill834 The crash site was in a wooded area north-northeast of Brentwood, roughly at the junction of Baxter Lane and Franklin Pike Circle, just east of Interstate 65, and southwest of Nashville International Airport where Reeves planned to land. Get it right! Lol! Jim Reeves was killed because he was a stubborn hard head and wouldn't take no for an answer when his flight instructor wanted to give him a few more lessons. He had limited knowledge of weather.

@davidkellymitchell4747 3 ай бұрын

@@jfarill834 And as you know BNA is Nashville International.

@keithladd2365 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for your explanation of this sad situation. As a retired maintenance man, I could immediately identify so much wrong and the huge work overload this young Lady was experiencing. So sad.

@stevemull2002 7 ай бұрын

Its a shame two people lost there lives, but from what i have observed, she was not at a point of passing a PPL, let alone let lose with IFR and autopilot

@linanicolia1363 7 ай бұрын

don't think she flew IFR. She pretended to. The autopilot ? she did not know how to use it.

@ernestgalvan9037 6 ай бұрын

@@linanicolia1363…”the autopilot? she did not know how to use it”… but she DID use it, and that was one of the MAJOR compounding problems.

@GeminiSeven43 6 ай бұрын

That flight instructor was behind completely especially when the ATC told them that they were too low and you could see him take his glasses off and taking a look at the altimeter. Wow what a cluster and it is no surprise that she was not able to handle the aircraft when things went wrong. You absolutely have to know the basics before you worry about using equipment such as the auto pilot and cannot use the autopilot to fly you out of trouble. Very Sad story here and never should have reached this end.

@guyincognito741 5 ай бұрын

She was always so distracted by the autopilot, that I never once saw her scan the airspace around her. I'm surprised she didn't cause a mid air collision.

@olivieraleman 6 ай бұрын

This really hit home, my father was a pilot at a small field and I spent many hours as a young person in and around airplanes... I wanted to fly but realized early I was not cut out for it

@Raelven 6 ай бұрын

Same here. Grew up flying with my dad. He was an exceptional pilot. He could have taught me everything starting at age seven. We both knew that while I had the brains for it, I didn't have the mind for it, as thinking in three dimensions and spatial relations are difficult for me. But I am one of the safest vehicle operators you'll ever meet, and I am happy with that.

@laudennn 5 ай бұрын

my father was a female pilot

@JIMJAMSC 7 ай бұрын

She needed to spend less time on her hair and more reading manuals and systems. "What does ATT mean???? I dunno I just press this button.? CFI. "It want ever let you stall." proceeds to randomly press buttons to see what happens. OMG!

@user-wf2kd6nm1n 6 ай бұрын

She shows zero confidence , and I feel so bad for her and her poor dad... she was so blatantly unqualified...how did this happen?

@bobmarino350 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for a great video. I have been following this crash for a few weeks now. I believe you are 100% correct. She’s definitely very far behind the airplane. I’ve only got 100 hours of flight time, but gosh almighty. Don’t think I would’ve ever flown with her or signed her off. Even the instructor looked confused. What a shame.

@mortsnerd Ай бұрын

I have watched several videos about her, and I am going to say something that may piss off some people. She was a tall good-looking blonde with more money than sense and had she been anyone else one or more of her CFI's would have taken action and maybe saved 2 lives. I'll wager a female instructor would have done what the others failed to do. Female charm doesn't end when it's wheels up. Jenny was a very accomplished woman in her own right, but her own videos demonstrate she didn't have the humility needed to learn fly an aircraft safely.

@overthetip 6 ай бұрын

Whoever allowed her to fly without an instructor should be jailed.

@gxd4b1 7 ай бұрын

I think the 3.04 mark of this video sums it up ....... Instructor points to 'ATT' on Autopilot ..... 'Is that Attitude?' .... Jenny: 'Ummm, I forgot' what it is.' ..... errrr, its ATT .... So unless they misspelt the shortcut for Altitude .. it is obvious to everyone it should be Attitude .. how does she not know this. Its literally like she was just randomly pressing buttons and hoping something worked.

@darreno1450 6 ай бұрын

If that AP wasn't busted, after she was done with it, it surely would have been.

@desertshield 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the detailed analysis!

@webds 7 ай бұрын

I'm not a pilot but my dad and cousin are... seems to me she used the iPad way too much to see where air traffic was and to determine her flight path etc instead of getting info from ATC. That was huge distraction.

@mt-nv4jd 6 ай бұрын

I cannot imagine decending @ 130 mph, and not knowing what to do about it...

@user-fv2xv8xh3b 3 ай бұрын

I saw some of her earlier flights and this crash doesn't surprise me at all, I'm just surprised that they granted her a license to fly solo, or with a passenger,, how could they allow such a thing, this is crazy !

@AudioMasters 6 ай бұрын

My dad taught me how to fly in a siminole which is a HP airplane. Most pilots agree thats not the best way to go but he owned it and i was taught at a very young age. It was complicated to me but my dad broke it down into several phases so i could comprehend it better and i was required to master each phase before moving to the next. When i did finally decide to get my PPL i enrolled in one the local flight schools and found i did not have any trouble completing the course. Just from what i saw of Jenny i really do believe she wanted to learn, and do believe she was trying, but i also believe she needed people teaching her that had many years of experience both with flying and teaching. Not everyone is cut out to be a pilot, but then again not every pilot is cut out to be a teacher either. I Know i have made a few harsh comments about her flight skills, some even think maybe i was unfair about it and maybe i was, but at some point a good hard dose of reality is needed for change to come about to keep something like this that was so avoidable from happening again.

@DAS-Videos 6 ай бұрын

In the video of her here, the flight instructor wasn't teaching her anything. It looked like he didn't know how to fly either. I wonder if she had any videos of her flying solo on her YT account so we could see how she performed.

@rachmunshine9474 6 ай бұрын

@@DAS-Videos yeah, I couldn’t believe that. Was any kind of instructor in this video here. I’ve seen a few words about this, but I never saw any of her other videos or anything. And I heard they were taken down so I haven’t looked. Very sad story. Enough blame to go around.

@AudioMasters 6 ай бұрын

@@DAS-Videos She had to solo alone but usually that just means take off do a once around the pattern and land. To get a PPL one has to do at least one cross country alone but i saw no videos of that. I watched a few of her most recent videos and she was never alone. She either had her CFI or her dad with her which gave me the impression her confidence wasn't where it needed to be. I could be way off base but thats the impression i got.

@howard5992 6 ай бұрын

" I really do believe she wanted to learn, and do believe she was trying ' Of course she wanted to learn and of course she was making an effort but there was something deeply wrong in her method. If the AP doesn't operate as you expect it to then you need to understand why. For all the hours she had in her plane she never resolved that FUNDAMENTAL lack of understanding. One would think that reviewing / studying a manual would have been very valuable. Failing that, you ssk out someone with knowledge and have them provide the explanations that you need and ask them to confirm that you have the correct understanding. Making an effort and making an attempt to" learning by doing " is ineffectual if you are not gaining an actual understanding.

@kenz5469 6 ай бұрын

There are/were videos of her driving and coasting through and blowing through stop signs, speeding, etc. It may explain some of her shortcomings in flying

@WilliamB87 6 ай бұрын

she shouldn't even be driving a shopping cart

@dermick 7 ай бұрын

"Plan continuation bias" is another way to say "get-home-itis" although gethomeitis is probably more accurate generally, since it does seem to be a factor when people are going home. As pilots, we should get a solid reminder of this before every flight. We should assume we'll need to use the credit card to stay another night or two. Don't fly somewhere in your small GA aircraft if you *must* be home Monday morning.

@LeTon75 6 ай бұрын

After 25 years as a pilot in the RAF i can say after watching this person they should never of been cleared to fly. I also think the instructors esp in the US need more strick and stringent vetting and training schedules imo. A lot nowadays seem to more sim pilots rather then rt pilots. Regulations are far tougher here in the UK thank god and is way we hardle have any accidents. Rip to the people that died

@robertcarey3383 6 ай бұрын

This says volumes about her instructors not wanting to tell the "pretty girl" she doesn't know what the hell she is doing. Why was she allowed to fly this plane solo is the question that needs to be answered. Whoever signed off on her proficiency as a pilot also signed her death certificate.

@edbeck8925 6 ай бұрын

True. And they could have been scared about a discrimination lawsuit if she got failed

@ROBIN_SAGE 6 ай бұрын

I am not a pilot. Though I have jumped out of quite a few airplanes on purpose….. This is sad all around. It really seems to be a case of nobody telling her the word “NO”. Unfortunately it cost her and her father’s lives. You’d think he’d tell her “sweetie, I love you, but you need a lot more training, I want you to be safe”. It is clear to me she Had fundamental misunderstanding of the most basic airmanship and what the control surfaces did and how your inputs affect the aircraft. And that’s without even throwing in an auto pilot system that had to have the trim manually controlled that she completely misunderstood… I also feel the young cfi in the video either was ridiculously lenient or deferential to her. He either barely understood what was going on himself, or was letting her get away with murder. He also was relying on her knowing the AP system, which she clearly did not. Again, just sad all around, especially for the mother and wife of the pair. Godspeed TNFlygirl and your pop, my only hope is that people learn from your mistakes/ loss of life, and that it helps others avoid the same.

@theresacaron4238 7 ай бұрын

Relying on an autopilot to fly your airplane without the knowledge and capability to hand fly it is unsafe, stupid and unacceptable. I memorized the flight manuals emergency procedures and normal operations parameters for every model of airplane I flew and reviewed those all the time. I do not understand how someone who did not understand her machine attempted to fly it when in previous flights she was never in control, the CFI's were, sort of. What were the CFI's after? Personal favors from an attractive woman? One has to wonder since they were not instructing her in a professional manner.

@qarnos 7 ай бұрын

What were the CFI's after? 1500 hours. Don't matter how you get there.

@missychan63 6 ай бұрын

Even a noob like myself knows that the place to learn how your autopilot works is on the ground, not in the air. This was simply too much plane for her... Her need to impress everyone on social media literally killed her... She should not have been flying alone and she certainly should not have been flying THIS plane alone.

@MrShanebizzle 6 ай бұрын

Great follow up man thanks

@jaguar3248 7 ай бұрын

Sadly i think she placed more importance on gathering You Tube content than she did on being trained to fly correctly. The instructors were also well aware the cameras were there and why they were there and i don't think that helped with the way they were teaching her. Very sad she lost her life, but i highly doubt she even understood that she was flying a machine that could kill her and in the right circumstances, not tell her it was about to do so.

@qarnos 7 ай бұрын

She had 15k subs... hardly an influencer. What bothers me more is youtubers like @FlyWithKay who directly addresses the camera whilst flying solo and actually talks over the top of another aircraft calling out their position rather than pay attention to the call.

@oldcrackadated 7 ай бұрын

This guy is supposed to be an instructor and doesn’t know what everything on the panel does? He thinks it does - what is he there for ?

@whiskeytango9769 6 ай бұрын

Interesting, I was a hang glider pilot before I got my ultralight license. I always used pitch for airspeed in a glider, and also in a powered craft. Power in my mind was for climb/descent. The effects are linked of course, forward stick will speed you up, but will cause you to descend unless power is added to stop the descent. Adding power from level flight causes you to climb as well as speed up initially, and in some models I found that it would pitch up enough to slow the aircraft down unless I changed the trim nose down to the new power setting...in any event, I just found it very easy to associate pitch with speed and power with climb/descent rate. If I wanted to descend the quickest while under complete control, I would chop power to idle, pitch forward with full aileron with opposite rudder, pitch was used to maintain safe airspeed and the cross-controls made the aircraft very draggy....drop like a stone under full control without dangerously increasing airspeed. Loved it. You must understand flight dynamics and your aircraft.

@nebuchadnezzar9641 6 ай бұрын

I see a lot of comments about how bad her CFI is and, I agree. However, if I was as poor a pilot as she was, I wouldn’t even consider flying on my own. In fact, I would insist on being held back from qualifying, until I was confident I knew everything inside and out, with my eyes closed. The question remaining is - why did she believe she was capable of safely flying that plane?

@maxtanicfilms 6 ай бұрын

That's a very good question. We had a neighbor years ago (in the 70's). He had a 1956 310. He nearly killed himself & his family a dozen times in that thing over a period of 10 years. He had zero risk awareness. Would fly in ice, at night, through thunderstorms and the list goes on. Honestly if I told you the stories it wouldn't be believable. After 10yrs his wife made him give up flying. They all lived, his three kids included. Some people shouldn't fly airplanes, most figure it out right away. There are those few that are so blind they don't realize it.

@howard5992 6 ай бұрын

@@maxtanicfilms - My sense (my guess) is that she did not have the *inclination* to learn through study (through reading) and that she was not analytical (did not generally learn by understanding principles). I think her approach was to learn by *doing* and that to some degree she learned by rote - which comes about through repetition sand trial and error.

@davidjose9808 6 ай бұрын

Learning to fly safely and efficiently are not learned by just “doing”. Theory, problem-solving skills, intuitive reasoning, understanding the flight profile plan, balanced emotional state, etc…are all vital elements

@howard5992 6 ай бұрын

@@davidjose9808 - I agree with you. Understanding is essential. There must have been numerous helpful comments from viewers in her videos where people gave useful advice. Sad situation.

@shelleyking8450 7 ай бұрын

Newest update and EVERY OTHER UPDATE forever: she crashed because she didn't know how to fly the plane. Base facts point to her CFIs (MULTIPLE ones) not training her or critiquing her skills, and signing off on her PPL when she never should have had one. The report says her precious Go-Pros were found intact, so THOSE videos (which WE will never see) will tell NTSB what the rest of the public knows. She couldn't stay ahead of the plane, let alone any extra systems.

@smark1180 7 ай бұрын

We don't know for sure what caused her crash, but her infatuation with the autopilot was distracting. Her training at this point was to become a competent instrument-rated pilot. Her CFII(s) should have stressed this to her and should have completely removed any involvement/operation of the autopilot from the syllabus.

@chuckschillingvideos 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, I think we know exactly what caused her crash - being a lousy, unskilled pilot.

@smark1180 7 ай бұрын

@@chuckschillingvideos No, we don't "know" that. However, it might be true.

@darreno1450 6 ай бұрын

This video demonstrated clearly what caused the crash.

@smark1180 6 ай бұрын

@@darreno1450 Specify, what caused it.

@darreno1450 6 ай бұрын

@@smark1180 Poor airmanship due to the over realiance on the AP without a clear understanding of how it worked, the lack of proper training, the propensity to be easily distracted during critical phases of flight, and a seemingly total disregard for the behavior of the aircaft. Proof? As mentioned early the video, look at the vertical speed indicator. Also look at the flightaware altitude and speed graphs leading up to the crash.

@SmokeTheHolyChalice 3 ай бұрын

It is one of the best examples that someone can be extremely talented and successful at one task (work/interior design and decorating, sales, customer relations) and totally inept in another task (flying and likely tasks that were more technically oriented). This is tantamount to excelling in creative writing while struggling in math. Most of us have a preference and find one more enjoyable and easier than the other. However, we are still able to do both as the difference is not insurmountable. It seems that in this case the difference was and if this was a subject you took on school, she would have certainly failed, even after employing tutors. What’s more, in this scenario she found math just as enjoyable as creative writing despite continuously failing math class, so to speak.