To Build What Veterans Cant Bring Home

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7 жыл бұрын

Like many Vets these days, Steve Russell was very frustrated that he or any of the soldiers under his command couldn't actually bring back captured rifles from their campaigns overseas, unlike previous generations of American infantrymen. So if you can't bring back rifles, maybe the next best step is to make them? This is exactly what Steve did with Two River Arms, a company in Oklahoma City that makes excellent copies of Iraqi Tabuks from Yugo M72 parts kits, complete with Iraqi markings in Arabic and all. The niche that this company fills is extremely unique and small for that matter, very unlike most any Kalashnikov producing companies in the AK business. They are uniquely tied into the conflicts of our era that directly connects the small arms from those conflicts.
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@michaelfinn366 7 жыл бұрын

It's even sillier than you think. Two examples: As one of the first units to occupy Tallil Air Base in southern Iraq, we came upon a number of ZPU-4 (towed, quad AA guns) that we actually integrated into our perimeter until the infantry battalion showed up that was supposed to defend us. A few weeks later, we got two of them, plus a British 25-pounder from An Nasiriyah, back to Arifjan, our base in Kuwait. I spent the next nine months trying to do the paperwork to get them home to a military museum, but to the best of my knowledge, they are still at Arifjan, because it was not politically correct to capture and keep Iraqi stuff. Second example: At the beginning of the war, the idiots in charge banned AK bayonets from being sent home. Not only were these the same bayonets you could find for twenty bucks in Shotgun News, but Iraqis were selling them to our Soldiers in-country. (Knife, Meester, knife!") Since US Customs wasn't as politically correct as the armed forces, and didn't ban AK bayonets, we sent ours home by DHL from Kuwait City.

@tray-oq1nj 6 жыл бұрын

Crazy through the years how it changed. I was over in desert storm with 3ad and we were allowed to bring back bayonets but no firearms.

@Mrgunsngear 7 жыл бұрын

I've handled several of their rifles; they do excellent work.

@blackbird3087 6 жыл бұрын

Mrgunsngear Channel I've handled all of their firearms , and they do quite an excellent job on these weapons indeed an very well job was done on these assault weapons of massdestruction need to be banned from this planet immediatley! Other wise i cant live in peace knowing that anyone coule have these large capacity ammunitionholders thaf could potentially harm me or my neighbours friends dogs mentalhealth >:(

@Terran994 7 жыл бұрын

This is why we need to change the law so vets can bring them back, regardless of bolt, semi, full auto

@DynamiteBarcTrooper 6 жыл бұрын

Terran499 I'm all for them bringing back semi and bolt but you do realize allowing them to bring back full auto would throw the system into chaos and completely go against the 1986 law banning new importation. It would be a pain in the ass to register all of those and keep the paperwork. It would also be a little dangerous with the vets that come back with severe PTSD owing full auto rifles

@dreamingflurry2729 6 жыл бұрын

Indeed, don't they say a country is only as free as the gun-laws? (Which is true, because disarmed citizens are easy to oppress, while a fully armed population can't be oppressed - especially if the military is not brainwashed from birth and will probably disobey orders to fire on civilians!)

@leeclock4911 9 ай бұрын

And RPG7

@dmarkj22 4 жыл бұрын

I just got back my Romanian RPK that I had these guys build for me and I’m amazed by the quality of their work. These guys elevate AK building to an art form. The fit and finish are beautiful and the bluing is exquisite. It instantly became my favorite rifle in my collection.

@dylangreen9819 7 жыл бұрын

My dad almost brought home a few Ak's from Iraq. Including a heavy barrel model(not an rpk). When he was leaving the marines they built fake bottoms to their crates and took apart the Ak's. Some ass the forklift put the fork through the crate and a barrel stuck out so then they measured the bottoms. Such bullshit too.

@googlepissoff5776 7 жыл бұрын

On the bright side the fact that the plan was unsuccessful means your childhood pet wasn't murdered by the ATF.

@FR4NCH3K 7 жыл бұрын

I actually have a Two Rivers Arms PM md.63 Yugoslav War build and I absolutely love it. Not only is the finish on the non-imported parts perfectly matching, but the actual riveting jobs, headspacing, sight alignment, and all that stuff is perfectly done as well which makes them a diamond in the rough as far as American-built AKs go.

@warsaw3784 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah well trust you with million dollars worth of equipment but you can't bring a bolt action rifle k k

@merryweather3713 6 жыл бұрын

"Here, we'll trust you with a tank that has a 120mm gun on it to kill a bunch of cavemen with assault rifles. But don't you even fucking dare to bring one of those assault rifles back home, what do you think? You think we can trust you with that kind of firepower??"

@lespaulguitarist92 6 жыл бұрын

be aware that you guys are just blind sheep to the government. they use you and then discard you at the end.

@redram5150 4 жыл бұрын

They were tricked into believing Iraq had any part in 9/11 and invading there and Afghanistan was in service to America, its people, and our rights... so what’s one more trick by the government?

@Saved_Sinner0085 6 жыл бұрын

They would probably make a shit load of money if the made a Tabuk sniper chambered in 7.62x54r. Draganov clones for all!

@Gdude2k 6 жыл бұрын

I still have my grandpa's m1 garand and the luger he got off a dead german colonel

@Gdude2k 6 жыл бұрын

The luger shoots amazingly considering it a ww1 model luger

@aLethalSloth 7 жыл бұрын

I dont even live in the usa but that pisses me off that they cant bring fire arms back

@dreamingflurry2729 6 жыл бұрын

Agreed - for me as a German this shouldn'd have any relevance, but IMHO the US gun-laws (of the past!) made it possible to keep a lot of military history which would be destroyed in other countries because it can't be surplused! Sadly this changed for the US, too with all those anti-gun-laws banning the registration of new machine-guns, the assault weapons ban (thankfully that is gone now!) etc. and even worse state legislation! I mean as a liberal atheist I would like to live in one of those states (if I had to live in the US!), but my love for guns would make that impossible because I hate being restricted especially since those laws violate the constitution "...the right to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed..." - Yeah and what are laws doing ATM? They are infringing, hard!

@DeadpoolDeadcool 7 жыл бұрын

This guy is also a politician, probably the most supportive of gun rights since he owns his own company.

@winkleried 5 жыл бұрын

DeadpoolDeadcool Not anymore. He lost the election. :( His district has a neo Socialist representing them now.

@renaissancejack6592 7 жыл бұрын

It's not just about taking war trophies home. This is all to make soldiers more disconnected with the idea of private firearm ownership. If you go on any military fort or base they don't want soldiers having access to firearms, whether on their person or in their possession. We have soldiers, people willing and able to fight with firearms, unable to defend themselves while in the States and some have died because of it.

@boomerkobold3943 7 жыл бұрын

I agree. Disgusting and shameful.

@alldud13 4 жыл бұрын

Renaissance Jack That’s not true you can own firearms on base but you have to register them on base and if you live in the barracks it has to be in the armory like the likelihood of getting shot at the px is very improbable (but still could happen) then say off base somewhere where if u live off base you are totally within your rights to own one just not bring it on base i bought a firearm and i live on base so i keep it at a friends house

@chadpatrick7307 7 жыл бұрын

that's one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time

@kevinstafford4475 7 жыл бұрын

Not sure of the rules now, but in 02-03 we were able to bring back captured weapons as long as they were in the curio/relic class. I have a 1886 Lebel hanging in my living room and I know guys that brought back 1898 Mausers and other "old" bolt actions. Yea, semi-auto's like the SKS and full autos like the AK were still off limits. Even M1 Garands, and I found one in Afghanistan, were off limits which to me seemed idiotic.

@davidwanc11 7 жыл бұрын

We're really living in the age of cowardice. Everyone's scared of anything that even slightly resembles a weapon. Just last year airport security confiscated a mini multi-tool (the size of thumb) that my aunt from Germany gave me close to a decade ago all because it has a well-used blade no longer than 4/5 of a toothpick. Now before anyone calls me an idiot for bringing a tiny knife through an airport please know that I've been travelling for nearly 10 years with that thing in my bag located in the exact same place every single time and was never stopped until last year.

@johnmartin4639 7 жыл бұрын

Duck_Vader dude...I was held up at the airport due to having 3oz of Brute aftershave... this country is a fucking joke and has been since they defeated the good guys in ww2.......

@David-cj8wv 7 жыл бұрын

I feel like it's the second counter culture, hopefully we'll have another 80 and early 90s full of beautiful patriotism and prosperity

@danieldunlap4077 7 жыл бұрын

john martin by the way that comment was satirical and your an ass for even for bringing up attempting to take over the world you conspiracy Nut Job

@cruzo1981 7 жыл бұрын

Duck_Vader The TSA recently failed tests all over the US. I'm not surprised.

@googlepissoff5776 7 жыл бұрын

john martin What the fuck are you talking about

@desertoasistx 7 жыл бұрын

I am proud to call Steve and co friends. They are a good bunch of guys.

@dylanclark8358 7 жыл бұрын

Oh my god he's got a pen knife, stop him. Lmao

@Tater79bj 7 жыл бұрын

The Two Rivers owner sounds a little like Bill Clinton lmao.

@vintagebullets6497 7 жыл бұрын

Tater79bj it's that vocal fry. Annoys the piss outta me

@stonebone1179 7 жыл бұрын

Ayy you're alive,i love your channel

@Tater79bj 7 жыл бұрын

Stone's Garage -DFW lol, yeah I'm still kick'n, and thank you! In fact, I've recently started editing and adding footage for part 2 of the " Modified Bullet Hose". Clinton Westwood has also started up his projects again! Hopefully, all of the diy gun channels will follow suit :)

@justinwatson384 7 жыл бұрын

Tater79bj " i did not have sexual relations with that woman"

@Apoc_Bone_Daddy 6 жыл бұрын

"I did not have sexual relations with that gun! "

@ledger45b 7 жыл бұрын

i really enjoy what this company is doing. i am a 10 year 45b (weapon engineer) and 11b (infantry). ive served multiple tours and seen alot of interesting firearms that i was ordered to demil.

@ymmatinthehat 7 жыл бұрын

This is pretty cool idea hopefully the expand on what guns they produce

@A5JDZK 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Very unique content. Thanks Col. for saying what all of us grunts think rotating back to the world. We all should have had a war trophy or something to remind us of our time overseas.

@humansvd3269 7 жыл бұрын

I've been to this place before. Their guy Tim, who is their machinist, fixed my semi auto Wise Lite RPD from bad head space, poor feeding, and bad latch engagement. They save me from wasting 1900 on my rifle and they were quick. They love showing off their stuff. Going to have them build a Maadi for me when I return from my deployment.

@mikea.6608 7 жыл бұрын

Thats badass what that company is doing. 👍🏾

@Deadlyaztec27 6 жыл бұрын

I always a company to offer these. I'm glad they actually came around doing it.

@sleestalk 3 жыл бұрын

marvelous work. keeping an objective view. And appreciating history.

@wingus79 7 жыл бұрын

this company makes such a cool product line, i am very impressed

@Native_love 6 жыл бұрын

God bless our Veterans and active duty warfighters!

@user-kt8yp5ho2y 7 жыл бұрын

The tabuk sniper rifle is become a standard issue sniper rifle in North Korean army.

@OuijaSTi 7 жыл бұрын

No, they use a copy of the Serbian M76 chambered in 8mm called the "JeoByeokBoChong".

@johnmartin4639 7 жыл бұрын

이동연 they are focused on killing your buddies while aiming at you....lol

@winkleried 5 жыл бұрын

OuijaSTi Yep. I fired one without the scope when I was on the DMZ.

@AffordableArmory 6 жыл бұрын

Wow! Thanks for this. I'm from OKC and hadn't heard of them. I will definitely check them out now.

@IUHoosier429 7 жыл бұрын

Go Hoosiers! Also, I love my Two Rivers Arms M92 underfolder.

@richroylance4630 5 жыл бұрын

This is really cool...great idea , and very appealing to all military weapons collectors.

@stevechurch3131 7 жыл бұрын

I did a tour in Iraq in 2006. I got into an argument with my PL and First Sergeant about trophies and war "bring backs" of course they won, but it chaffed my ass a little bit. Im glad someone is filling the gap between the generations of warfighter and is trying to get the trophies we deserve into our hands.

@finck2208 7 жыл бұрын

Been looking at their guns for a while. Bucket list gun. I've had that same AK poster in my gun room for about 2 years.

@pedrojimenezrojas6207 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Miles & TFBTV for making this type of videos possible, please keep up the good work

@sterlingarcher6079 7 жыл бұрын

What I love the most about this company is this: Our govt causes another problem for law abiding citizens and honorable veterans, and a private vet owned business creates a solution. I love it. We need to privatize our federal government and turn it over to vets like this man.

@simon_96 7 жыл бұрын

So cool never known about that before Nice work

@jcodym13 7 жыл бұрын

Keep up the good work Miles

@ledger45b 7 жыл бұрын

i really enjoy what this company is doing. i am a 10 year 45b (weapon engineer) and 11b (infantry). ive served multiple tours and seen alot of interesting firearms that i was ordered to demil.😭

@tonypeppermint5329 7 жыл бұрын

This was something fun to watch.

@diecaster1018 7 жыл бұрын

You go to their site... and there's nothing for sale, WTF???

@fpsOklahoma 7 жыл бұрын

DIECASTER they sell them through a distributor, Big Boy's Guns Ammo and Range. Most of what they do is parts kit builds for the individual customer.

@dex6147 7 жыл бұрын

I read an old Guns & Ammo article about these rifles. They seem very high quality and 2 MOA is more than serviceable.

@Caveira138 7 жыл бұрын

Good video, Tabuk sniper looks pretty cool

@mann8557 5 жыл бұрын

Two of my family heirlooms is are rifles my forefathers brought back from war. One is a Springfield musket from the civil war and the other is an arisaka type 99 from the pacific theatre. It’s sad that our boys can’t bring home stuff like that anymore.

@gregoryc9087 11 ай бұрын

Lmao who cares build your own.

@IMGsmereka 7 жыл бұрын

Great video A+

@Vulf_Faolan 7 жыл бұрын

If only there was some kind of program you could join... Some kind of Armed Forces you could be part of, where they would train you in the safe ownership and operation of military grade firearms so that you could be trusted with such a gun... But I guess nothing like that exists.

@TylerHulan 7 жыл бұрын

Vulf Almasy the military does get training on how to use military grade weapons safely......they're in the military.

@mikethemaniac1 7 жыл бұрын

both dudes in the video were IN it. Though I'm not sure if I trust anything "military grade" over anything I'd buy on the commercial market. Sounds like a real good sales pitch until you realize how shitty "military grade" is.

@Vulf_Faolan 7 жыл бұрын

Wait a minute... You're telling me these guys DID get trained by the government on the safe handling and usage of exactly these kinds of weapons and then got told by that same government that they can't be trusted with such weapons? (Please forgive the sarcasm)

@issayoussef5444 6 жыл бұрын

Vulf Almasy in lebanon we have something like that its called Hezbollah and this organization fights side to side with the army against terrorists

@jacobinfante375 6 жыл бұрын

Vulf Almasy r

@Somnio64 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid!

@mw01720 6 жыл бұрын

I think this is just awesome!

@gohardgibson 4 жыл бұрын

I learned about these unique Iraqi weapons in a fallout 4 mod. Thanks for putting facts and a face to these great rifles available here!

@CCSUGenBlackhawk 7 жыл бұрын

that's pretty friggin awesome!

@50StichesSteel 7 жыл бұрын

"I went to Iraq and all I got was an AK47 bayonet" lol...This is a great idea and Im on board

@850spirates3 4 жыл бұрын

50 Stitches Steel I went to Iraq twice as an infantryman and all I got was a Purple Heart and then the navy customs guys taking my Iraqi license plate from me saying I couldn’t even bring that back. Such a joke!

@johnjuiceshipper4963 7 жыл бұрын

"Vetrens", "cant". Miles, blink twice if these deadlines are affecting your mental health.

@johnvorhees5787 7 жыл бұрын

TFB TV my grandpa was a veteran from ww2 and I got his Czech pistol

@davidknight9709 4 жыл бұрын

I love what they are doing and I plan to get a Tabuk sniper soon, but I wonder if they could work with the new Iraqi government and become the first licensed manufacturer of the Al Kadesiah (or Al Qadisiyah) rifle. Basically a stamped receiver version of the Dragunov SVD.

@hasanmichael4966 7 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a big "FU" to the politicians. Good stuff.

@asupremelove5149 4 жыл бұрын

the guys at TRA are great at what they do. They've built multiple rifles for me.

@shanemunsey4197 6 жыл бұрын

I have an underfolder and it is awesome its not just a nice looking rifle but it works just as well love it if I could buy another one i would

@a.m.k__9883 4 жыл бұрын

Didn't know people wanted our rifles....nice

@bodipsypha 6 жыл бұрын

EXCELLENT!!!!!!!

@David-cj8wv 7 жыл бұрын

I like the Tabuk one but I wish the flash hider was a little more promentant and the stock a little more squared off like on an SVD

@patricksimon2707 7 жыл бұрын

Nice IU shirt! Caught me completely off guard.

@koroplays3200 7 жыл бұрын

they look pretty neat

@stevemc6010 7 жыл бұрын

They had one of these Two River Tabuks as a prop in American Sniper.

@hugoalbertocardenasvazquez3876 7 жыл бұрын

awesome!

@mikethompson2650 5 жыл бұрын

These guys upgraded my Serbian AK47 with the "missing" items that made it complete. They added the grenade launcher site and the night sight part of the stock front sight. Everything went perfectly and the sights were even aligned for me. I recommend them.

@ringingsteel2432 7 жыл бұрын

Veterans in your thumbnail is spelled wrong. Not sure if that was creative license or not

@19Koty96 6 жыл бұрын

Actually, Czechoslovakia did not produce or use any Kalashnikov rifle.

@cam2351 7 жыл бұрын

I have a tabuk bayonet I found for $35, and I really want one of the tabuk underfolders

@mhsvz6735 7 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@richardkluesek4301 7 жыл бұрын

The triumph and honor of American arms and martial prowess is completed by our fighting men possessing the weapon trophies of vanquished foes. Sadam, Bagdad Bob, Uday, and Queasey would be proud but fooled by the rendering of their versions of these small arms series.

@Gmonee1234 6 жыл бұрын

Miles is a cool guy like his vids

@laramiefrank479 7 жыл бұрын

Damn, I love Oklahoma gun industry

@havocsrev3nge625 6 жыл бұрын

Do you think there's a loophole where you just disassemble it so it's not a complete gun and just parts?

@jastreb1081 7 жыл бұрын

Does TRA still manufacture Mpi-Kms? And if so, what are the chances exporting it demilled according to european standarts?

@winkleried 5 жыл бұрын

Jastreb If you have a parts kit. They will assemble it for you.

@debbiearmioiathomas5107 6 жыл бұрын

What is over the gas tube on the underfolder

@The1860th 7 жыл бұрын

Yes! Miles is back!!

@TylerHulan 7 жыл бұрын

Ayy I'm from okc. Is this all you'll be doing in Oklahoma?

@danielboydcooper6850 7 жыл бұрын

just went to the two rivers arms website and there is nothing currently available Aug 23 2017

@Wiromax3 7 жыл бұрын

Check if they have a mailing list or similar than can notify you when they get anything?

@danielboydcooper6850 7 жыл бұрын

i'll do that, thanks brother and be safe!

@fpsOklahoma 7 жыл бұрын

daniel boyd cooper they sell the Tabuks through their distributor, Big Boy's Guns Ammo and Range(405)745-7179. Most of what they do is build parts kits for the individual customer.

@Abrams_sepv 2 жыл бұрын

Do they have a website?

@tonycantrell9547 7 жыл бұрын

outstanding

@johnqdope1 7 жыл бұрын

They wouldn't have to do this if your pig pals would simply stop enforcing anti-gun laws.

@googlepissoff5776 7 жыл бұрын

johnqdope1 What are you talking about?

@johnqdope1 7 жыл бұрын

Without willing armed enforcers, politicians laws would be nothing more than mere suggestions for any one to ignore.

@tonycantrell9547 7 жыл бұрын

why dont you tell me how you really feel, johnqdope1. dont hold back. ilmao. entertain me with your wisdom.

@johnqdope1 7 жыл бұрын

And even worse are retired cops who do nothing more than sit on their old butts as they grow fatter, tell lies about how they defended the citizens and their rights and wait for the mail man to hand deliver their pension checks that are cashed with funds stolen straight from the paychecks of their friends, family members, their own children and neighbors. What work do they do that they still deserve a check for not lifting a finger? Why don't they grow some stones and go shakedown the taxpayers face to face for themselves instead of having the current generation of piglets do it for them?

@donovannotmyname7306 7 жыл бұрын

Does it take block mags?

@jakubziak3404 6 жыл бұрын

Why in 7:35 when you are showing flag of the countries that use or manufacture AKs is there flag of Czech Republic?

@nerd_world8919 6 жыл бұрын

This dude is cool

@AKlover 7 жыл бұрын

600 meters for 7.62X39 is a stretch. At that point the bullet is addressed "To Whom it May Concern" and "Match Grade" X39 is pointless, use a different caliber with better legs behind it.

@Ram-xr5uj 7 жыл бұрын

Typo in the thumbnail

@Paelorian 7 жыл бұрын

I know TFB is all "gun, not politics", but I'd be really interested in a history of how and when the policy changed forbidding bringbacks. I know it was after the Vietnam War, because I've read there was then still an official process for bringing back obtained rifles. Is it still possible to send back everything but the serialized part? I'd probably try to send a firearm back in pieces and perhaps get the receiver smuggled in separately if possible. I also wouldn't mind seeing TFB get a little political and call this stupid anti-gun policy out for the idiotic bullshit that it is. Thanks for this video on what I think is an important and underappreciated subject. Much of the knowledge we have of military weapons comes from veteran bringbacks, but the flow of foreign-made firearms into the country has been cut off and no longer do Americans have access to contemporary modern firearms from around the world.

@lokisgodhi 6 жыл бұрын

I'd think it's pretty much the Hughes Amendment of 1986. You could no longer register new fully automatics. Even military sidearms are problematic since the Soviets used a bunch of fully automatic handguns. Where are the troops going store their trophies for the months of time it takes to NFA them? How do you get your home LEO to sign off on them if you're deployed? How do you deal with soldiers from a state that allows NFA items who's stationed in a states that bans all NFA items? Likely too big a hassle for the military which has other priorities.

@jimhart4158 6 жыл бұрын

I want one. But I live in California. So no AK for me I guess.

@rabbitdrink 6 жыл бұрын

Jim Hart you should be able to get an ak from a gun shop. But then again, they made pistol grips illegal because they look too much like someone in the movies shooting from the hip.

@paulspydar 6 жыл бұрын

why cant they bring them home any more? Also how are the ATF (& others) able to tell the difference between an original (not legal) weapon & one that has been made by this company? is there any chance one of these weapons could be confiscated mistakenly in the belief it was brought back from a conflict zone? thanks

@weekendwarrior556 7 жыл бұрын

great detailing. hope they do well

@ceoofzimbabwe5936 6 жыл бұрын

That about the vets that make guns popular is true because i shoot the fn fal mostly and its South Africas serves rifle. Im south afrikan btw

@servicerifle16 7 жыл бұрын

They should do Khyber Pass AKs next.

@PurdueManDan 7 жыл бұрын

Not bad for someone from IU! Just kidding, keep the cool videos coming

@frog_foot9593 7 жыл бұрын

Tabuk rifles are just license made rifles from former Yugoslavia and Serbia. Check out the Zastava M70 family.

@nitroxide17 7 жыл бұрын

I dig anything with a RPK receiver

@fifas94 6 жыл бұрын

In the Czech republic we used to Sa 58

@PostalPatriot556 7 жыл бұрын

Y'all couldn't even drop their link in the description?

@donnieates 4 жыл бұрын

Slightly similar. In Afghanistan 2002 I found an few cool pieces of exploded ordnance from the Russian occupation in the 1980’s. My Chief wouldn’t let’s me keep them or ship them home. Fast forward 8 months back in the states. I go to his office and guess what’s decorating his desk.....bingo. POS!

@lexusvip4003 6 жыл бұрын

I know an old man who brought his .50 caliber sniper rifle back from war. He sold it for $15,000. He also killed over 50 people with it. He has also killed 5 people with mercury. Scariest old man I know.... he has no heart.

@lexusvip4003 6 жыл бұрын

Had a man try to barter his makarov he picked off a dead body over seas for a night at my motel, biggest mistake I ever made was telling him no.... I love makarovs