Klingon "thug life"

@@redshirt5126 By Kahless, isn't that the truth. 😂

They killed their gods 3 times. The Fe'kiri appears twice.

Or like a certain S.H.E.I.L.D. agent said: "I've met gods. Gods bleed"

That's only if there citizen's.

*if it doesn't die we can at least lessen the enthusiasm the attacker might have in wanting to rip our heads off and spitting down our necks*

They got that trick from a certain team of ancient soldiers who traveled through portals regularly from a mountain in the western side of old North America...

@@JDEhlert ; Well those soldiers did have the help of a civilian archeologist and an alien whos famous catchphrase is "Indeed".

@@occultatumquaestio5226 Indeed...

@@occultatumquaestio5226 Wait, Zavala was there?

But more improtantly: Who brought the tribble? On a joint mission with Klingons?

That is entirely why they brought the Klingons As Worf said: “Our gods are dead. Ancient Klingon warriors slew them a millennia ago. They were more trouble than they were worth.”

I see a dagoth ur reference here

Dagoth Ur!

Call SCP, I bet they know.

@@navarog378 or Tel'c from Stargate

Plot Twist: The Iconians are just Chimer

3 times.

BFG intensifies.

*Spoilers* Do not read if you haven't played the story Arc or don't want to know the outcome. ... ... Some of the things you said about the Dominion will come into play in the final missions

quite surprised the Borg, Species 8472 nor the Tholians didn't get involved! Why not?

@@Tonydjjokerit Speculating, but the Borg, we can just assume are biding their time or are recovering from what was (in universe) the relatively recent thrashing the Collective took at the hands of 8472. Maybe there's also something about Iconian constructs that they can't simply assimilate considering the constructs' nature as pure energy. They'd probably need a full Herald or an Iconian to do so. The Iconians seem pretty well equipped to remodulate their ship weapons on a whim, plus their unique use of Gateway technology would probably leave them capable of overwhelming any Drones they dealt with. Species 8472 doesn't really go out of their way to bother with anybody unless they're provoked first. They're also easily manipulated, as back during the Borg episodes, it was said that the Iconians were using fake Federation and Klingon ships to make 8472 go on the offensive. 8472 probably wouldn't take a stand unless Iconian ships jumped into fluidic space themselves and started shooting. As well, the Tholians are usually pretty xenophobic as a race. They'd only ever jump in to the fight when the Iconian forces encroached on Tholian territory. Otherwise, the Iconian war is something that doesn't concern them. Even then, if the Tholians were to get involved, I don't think their tactics would be of much help to the Alliance, as their main weapons on ground are radiation-based ground weapons, and Tetryon-based space weapons with some power level draining effects. All three would also have to face the fact that the Iconians have what is virtually an unlimited fleet of ships and unlimited ground troops at their disposal. The Borg may adapt but it would likely be too late, 8472 would probably just stay in fluidic space, and the Tholians would be easily eradicated.

yeah i hated that glitch because i had to redo that fight so many times because my team kept getting knocked down there

WoW has glitches from their Beta years over 15 years ago and they got way more resources then Cryptic has.

I don't think so. They probably existed out of our time as they were alive way before the big bang. And they did not do anything during the temporal cold war (even during the changed WWII, due to which Picard & Janeway ''his favourite humans'' wouldn't have existed as they used to be).

@@cpasr8065 not sure if they existed before the big bang, and there are hints they were once mortals, but they are likely not overly effected by trivial things such as causality.

@@asaenvolk Well, didn't Q take Jean-Luc back in time to the start of the Big Bang to show him when the Universe starts? And then a bit forwards to when Life on Earth is supposed to start and he mocks Picard: "And now the big moment: Ah, nothing. Too bad *smirks in faked sorrow*" This suggests that Q can go anywhere, even "before" the Big Bang. Hence their existence might have started "later", but at the same time they already existed as they now can exist anywhere and "anywhen". But then... they also can visit an infinite amount of Universes to bother Picard or Janeway. So why bother when this one Galaxy is taken over by Iconians? :)

​@@MistedMind I don't remember the Big Bang Part, but they did go back to the part where life began on earth.

Considering that the Alliances only victories seem to come from the Federation (Delta Flight) maybe we should keep the blood knight Klingons from making the Alliance strategy.

@@nathanielheilmann7351 Sometimes the Klingons can surprise, though. The intel that Delta Flight used for their successful operation came through House Pegh, after all. Not that you heard it from me. A strategy that could win the war for the Alliance, though? That would have to be extremely unconventional, as the Iconians hold pretty much every advantage, from numbers to power. In the minds of those in command, the Krenim timeship is that strategy, however how many times does time travel go wrong in _Trek_ , vs how many times it goes as planned? So if not time travel, what would that leave? The Iconians were not of the mind to negotiate even before M'Tara's loss. Now they're pissed off enough to simply keep pressing their attack. And the Iconians themselves do not need to take the battlefield, exposing themselves to surgical strikes. Fortunately or unfortunately the Alliance has members who do not know when or how to give up. All life in the entire galaxy is at stake here. So where, in all this, is the Delta Alliance the player spent an entire season building to fight the Vaaduar?

@@BNuts their odds are actually worse, the time weapon will erase them from history, if you check the earlier videos you'll see that seven of nine and the krenim engineers are scared shit less of how that will affect history.

@@samuelcp100 I would definitely be scared of a weapon that can completely erase the target from the timeline. I mean, nobody has any idea, but it's already done that to loads of things and people.

Captain Hale has to see through at least the... well, spoilers. But after that, there is the end of the original story of STO in ViL, which would be a natural enough stopping point.

@@defies4626 What are you talking about? The story has continued throughout ViL. Just because you don't like Disco doesn't mean that it's not STO story.

@@defies4626 you mean, the Hur'q invasion arc?

@@nathanielheilmann7351 no, although I agree, I don't think Discovery story arc is any good and that's why, my TOS Toon finished the Discovery story arc right after the Klingon War episode. After all, it's logical that the Hur'q invasion would be the ultimate ending with a Galactic commonwealth being created, and for absolutely so reason whatsoever, from absolutely no fucking where, J'Ula came along and ruined that storyline for me. I mean, I was so angry at that little bit**h that only to vaporize her, I've bought a Temporal Intel Dreadnought. And then what? I was forced to fight besides her against J'mpok, who ended hostilities with the federation. God this discovery shit is disgusting.

@@nathanielheilmann7351 I consider all the Stuff after the Iconian arch to be a new story. The end of this arch very much felt like the end of the original story. I haven't done all the Disco stuff yet, but it's all very different from what came before.

Dailies are fun, well most of them

I suppose the real loss would be all the ships.

That's a million dead IN THIS BATTLE. The total Death Toll of the Iconian war is in the tens or even hundreds of billions.

You'll find out eventually, if you keep watching the series.

They deleted them with zero regard for the ramifications on their timeline.

Chroniton-based Weapons, most likely, coupled with ambush tactics.

@@patrikhjorth3291 SPOILERS! I've been playing the game since it went free to play. All Leeta says is something about help from the Temporal Resistance morons - they're a pretty pathetic bunch in terms of brute strength. The only thing we see is a couple of pretty ships and Leeta with a tenuous connection to the Pah Wraith. None of that could have wiped out the Iconians. In Trek time travel shenanigans result in push back to put everything back the way it was so they couldn't have been erased. So again - legit question, although the answer is "plot hole" in the finest Trek tradition. My speculation is that shifting the Iconians just a little in time is enough to kill them so they used an Omega particle powered temporal device to shift huge sections of space a fraction of a second back in time. Temporal WMD.

@@Janoha17 The Terran Dreadnought does come with chroniton torps, but that doesn't seem like enough with the stupid huge numbers of Iconian ships - most of which are probably drones.

Same reason you try to capture roads and railways if you can. The gateways are such an advantage that it's worth trying to capture control of then instead of destroying them.

Strategic advantage. If your enemy has badass technology and you don't, that's a problem--a problem you can solve by grabbing the tech and seeing how it works. Then you can make your own and even the odds.

Just beam in a bunch of quantums.

Not Starfleet, the Klingons are the ones who seem to be making most of the Alliance strategies. The victories that the Alliance has made has been due to Federation actions (Delta Flight, Bottle in Time)

I think the Alliance response is meant to give a sense of desperation. That Starfleet, the KDF, and all the other allies are backed into a corner.

You cannot screw up the timeline. Remember, a Temporal agent is/will be the products of their own time, that means, they will not change the timeline.

Because they're the Dominion.