TO OVERGRIP OR NOT TO OVERGRIP THAT IS THE QUESTION....

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Do you use a overgrip or just the replacement grip?
Thank you to Dan for the question.
Thank you to Coach Andrew Gu and Coach Rob Jessen for questioning the question with me.
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2 жыл бұрын

Great question that I'm hearing all the time around me. It's quite simple if you do the math. For 1 replacement grip you get like 3-4 overgrips. But at the end, it's not about the money. It's about how often you get a new fresh grip for the same price. Look at this example. Replacement grip makes perfect sense for someone who doesn't play regularly. For these people, it's a great choice. But if you play every day and even competitive, you need perfect grip for every match. And that's the moment for overgrips. You can change it literally for every important match and it won't break your bank. So for the same price you get 4x times fresh grip rather than one replacement grip, that is getting constantly worse. It's not about the money at the end, but it's about the option of having fresh grip every time you need. And for me personaly, it's super fun to put it on the racket and makes me feel very comfortable and ready for every match. It's a ritual.

@tonygareth221 2 жыл бұрын

I use overgrips because they are easy to change (even during a match) and you can always have a fresh grip on there where replacement grips take longer to change

@ZacharyShahan 4 ай бұрын

This is a super useful video. Thanks. Answers questions I didn't even realize I had!

@jonathanchen1026 2 жыл бұрын

I replace my overgrip every time I hit, and I hit 5+ times a week, nothing feels better than having a fresh overgrip on before playing

@Jamajalama Жыл бұрын

Maaaaa man! I am pretty much the same 😅 loooooove it

@saitama1717 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing Tennis gear topics again, these are still the best imo

@HKS-Digital 2 жыл бұрын

That's what I am talking about, shooting in your store with the shelfs behind you instead of the windows. This way, as seen in this video, you get consistent exposure, white balance and colors.

@tomr6955 2 жыл бұрын

And you can even see the grips he sells.

@JovanniG678 2 жыл бұрын

I have tried without an overgrip and with my sweaty hands i actually chucked my racket into the fence while serving one time and it was winter in ATL. Overgrip for life for me.

@Yonex333 7 ай бұрын

Same here!

@jasonbannan4024 Ай бұрын

Harry, you made me realize that I am old school. I have used leather (yes, I like the feel of the HEAD pallets with leather) and covered with overgrip. You convinced me to try getting rid of them and using the HEAD hydrosorb pro grips. It has changed my game for the better. With the Replacement Grip I feel I don't have to grip the racquet as tightly and I play more relaxed. Thanks for this video.

@andtsg6815 2 жыл бұрын

Sweating hand + Singapore humidity =can't live without overgrip 😁

@hafadaze9046 2 жыл бұрын

Same my hands still sweat even with the overgrip I think I need an overgrip over my overgrip

@juju-rt8ek 2 жыл бұрын

Toalson pretty good.

@SidneyNoFrills 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree Andt sg!

@juju-rt8ek 2 жыл бұрын

Do you like Tourna grip in Singapore? I'm nearby in Asia. Overgrips don't last long.

@andtsg6815 2 жыл бұрын

@@juju-rt8ek i have friends who use tourna but are minority, wilson and babolat overgrip more popular among my friends

@lilies9251 2 жыл бұрын

Besides the merits others mentioned (cost, ease tonchange), another thing is the large variety of overgrips out there, so you can find something that suits the best. I live in a place where summers are very humid and winters very dry, so I use different overgrips during seasons

@JD-767 2 жыл бұрын

2 overgrips. No replacement grip needed. Love the raw feeling.

@hotbear9424 2 жыл бұрын

Me too, better feel and cheaper to replace

@barbermack2980 2 жыл бұрын

Same here 🙋🏻‍♂️

@djp3525 2 жыл бұрын

How much does doing 2 over grips change the size of the grip? I would like to drop my size by one grip size.

@rishijai 2 жыл бұрын

@@djp3525 2 overgrips like the Yonex supergrap increases the grip by one grip size - 1/8 in.

@vexlyz5280 2 жыл бұрын

Same! Just replaced my top overgrip today.

@trujr5295 2 жыл бұрын

I have been using Babolat VS Ultra thin. amazing. not tacky and holds in humid climate. I am in Florida so need it in summer.

@JO-hb3xi 2 жыл бұрын

Wilson Pro or Dunlop Super Tac for me in warmer months. Perfect balance of tack and sweat absorption. I discovered the Head Hydrosorb Pro on my new Extreme Tour and really like it. I can use only a replacement grip in the cooler months. When using a new replacement grip I don't use an over grip until I have about 10-15 hours on the replacement grip. It allows oil and dirt from your hand to get on the replacement grip so that when you do install an over grip then remove it, it won't stick to or peel away the replacement grip underneath. I too have strung and gripped many racquets over 32 years. I recommend not using an over grip until the new replacement grip gets a little worn in and dirty. There is nothing worse than when customers bring in old rotten grips to be replaced. Removing them is a pain and such a dirty job. So nasty! Players need to pay attention to their grips as much as their strings.

@4magic4 2 жыл бұрын

Tourna Grip in the summer for sure. Anyway, I cooked a large ham a couple of days ago and yesterday had split pea soup with the ham bone slow-cooked for 6 hours. Outstanding!

@juju-rt8ek 2 жыл бұрын

I want to do cook a leg of lamb, standing rib roast and a turkey, but hard to find turkeys.

@alastairtheduke Жыл бұрын

I tried tourna grips but they feel so tackless, almost paper like. My racquet slipped out of my hand too much

@ericshine1 2 жыл бұрын

Hey... has anyone ever tried putting a replacement grip on top of a replacement grip? I have a worn out Head Hydrosorb Pro replacement grip... It's flat as a pancake because it was a demo racquet. I usually put two overgrips on this particular racquet. Instead of two overgrips, what are your thoughts on using one, new Hydrosorb Pro replacement grip on top of the existing grip? Thanks.

@rwtang 2 жыл бұрын

It's pure personal preference.

@Escorpio123PS 2 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with coach AGU. Most of my friends also think like that New grip feels good.

@keeganairbad4548 2 жыл бұрын

After you put an over grip on, can you remove it and use the original grip that was underneath?

@ronj9448 2 жыл бұрын

Overgrip in the Chicago summer. Too sweaty and dirty. Chicago outdoor courts are terrible. I can get by on one overgrip for two workshops in the winter indoors. A quick squirt of sanitizer also removes oils before play which also helps.

@Crypticnight2290 2 жыл бұрын

i love my tourna grip. it seems to absorb all the sweat. but i need to replace it after 2 hour session

@trex1448 2 жыл бұрын

If you grip your racquet firmer and swing with your arm you will like replacement grip. If you hold your racquet with loose hands and have modern strokes you'll need overgrips.

@garyguzman630 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah if you see the two older guys hit they don’t have modern swings so they don’t really need that new overgrip to feel secure holding the racket IMO

@shahidahmad8599 2 жыл бұрын

Earlier the Dunlop Max 200 G and Wilson 6.1 had Fairway Leather grips. Overgrips or Tournagrips those days were required but were rough. Then I switched to Babolat VS which lasted about 3 Hrs of play. But then their quality started detoriating and a very good product became available in HEAD Xtreme soft tacky overgrip that can last 12-15 hrs. Its necessary for me for reducing abrasions to the palm of the playing hand and callouses. A few spares are always there in the bag but usually it is OK till every re stringing. ANd looks great too. Neon Green overgrips complimenting SOlinco Hyper G 17 L strings!

@thaajbhardwaj2209 2 жыл бұрын

I use overgrip because I am ocd about my standard grip ripping at the butt cap. I replaced a grip once on my old racket and the weight changed so I always use overgrips now so I don't have to replace the stock one

@nbiscuitz 2 жыл бұрын

You should try grip spray/powder. I found overgrip lose the tackiness quite quick but the grip still looks good, so much waste to just replace it.

@fedecarretie430 2 жыл бұрын

It is a matter of tastes. Some people prefer grips and others (the most) use overgrips, which are easier to change. I have my Blades with an Sponge base grip from Wilson and I feel pretty comfortable. Leather grips are rare nowadays.

@juanfelipearango2029 2 жыл бұрын

I use size 3 with 2 thinner than average overgrips. I just like the cushion and the "filling" sensation in my hand, also i noticed since i use it, the frequency of getting calluses and blisters NOTE: my hands sweat a lot. But i would not recommend it for everyone

@Deedot1028 2 жыл бұрын

after using tourna blue, wilson pro, head, yonex super grap, and gamma supreme i settled on the gamma. seems to last longer than the rest and its not super tacky off the bat like the head.

@warehouse13-motorsports 2 жыл бұрын

I always buy a new stick one size down and do an overgrip. White Wilson or White Gamma overgrips. They get replaced 2x a week on all my rackets.

@tennis-fan 2 жыл бұрын

where we put our spin on your tennis elbow

@joaomedeiros6961 2 жыл бұрын

What would be a good replacement grip for a wilson pro comfort overgrip user? Same/close feel?

@DB-CA 2 жыл бұрын

Head Hydrosorb Pro or Babolat Evo

@toonsoffun5733 2 жыл бұрын

An overgrip goes for 1.30 usd a piece while a replacement grip is around 8 usd. So the real question is can the individual use a replacement grip more than 6 times prior to starting to feel bad.

@bushmenaa 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, Harry any idea from where i can buy equipment for making 4 1\2 foamed grip. I have many rackets that are smaller and i want to make them 4 1\2.

@juju-rt8ek 2 жыл бұрын

You can suck a sleeve over the handles. You can buy the plastic sleeves at a hardware store in the electric department. It comes in various sizes. Suck it down with heat. Hair dryer, over gas stove flame or with a heat gun. You don't really need a heat gun

@joaomartins2180 2 жыл бұрын

What is your brand?

@paultennis9569 2 жыл бұрын

I use TournaGrip it is not tacky which allows me to change grips during a point

@ariurip3751 2 жыл бұрын

My grip size is in between size 2 and size 3, i need an overgrip

@aj520605 2 жыл бұрын

It is problem nowadays that base grips are very comfort\mushy for more or less competitive players if they use an overgrip too. So it's better feel without an overgrip. But any serious play is impossible with the only the base grip, especially in the wet conditions where after half an hour of play the racket jumps from the hands during the serve or FH. So there is a neccesity to use and change an overgrip. For better feel we have to use another overgrip or a leather base grip...

@WaltKurtz68 2 жыл бұрын

It's very simple, in Europe the biggest grip size usually is 4, which is just a tad too small for me. An overgrip solves that problem most of the times. Plus when it gets dirty (especially with the white ones) it's easier and cheaper to replace than a basegrip. That's why I use overgrips.

@tnthomas1954 2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't it depend on your weather and your physiology? When I lived up north I used an overgrip because my hand sweats when I play, but I could use SuperGrap or Tourna just fine, and they lasted 3-4 hrs. I moved to FL, where the humidity is much worse, and SuperGrap get slippery in 10-15 min, and Tourna soaks through in about 20-30 min. I use Dunlop U Sweat (black), and change every 90 min in the winter, and every 30-45 min in the summer. I've tried, resin, chalk, sprays, wristbands, etc., and nothing seems to stop my hands from being wet in 90/90 temp/humidity. I see other people who's hands don't sweat like mine, and they don't need an overgrip at all. But I do. If I were just feeding balls, I didn't need to hold the racquet as securely, I wouldn't use an OG.

@trujr5295 2 жыл бұрын

Howard rackets do you have ? I accidentally solved this because I decided to carry three rackets to have a bit more fun w the strings. so here in Miami now sweating like crazy so every 20 minutes I switch rackets and let the others dry out.

@tnthomas1954 2 жыл бұрын

@@trujr5295 That's pretty much what I do, but I don't reuse after they're wet. After they've been wet the grip does not feel the same, even 2 days later when it's dried. We play for 90 min at a time (old guys). In the winter I can play the entire time with 1 racquet. In the spring and fall, 1-2 racquets. In the summer, 2-3. I normally carry 2-3 that are basically identical, and another 2-3 that are different in some way. It's just a hobby so it doesn't really matter. Most people I play with use only 1 racquet, and change the grip every year whether it needs it or not.

@scott94925 2 жыл бұрын

Overgrip for me. Tried so many and Tourna MegaTac (white) is the best for me.

@barbermack2980 2 жыл бұрын

I removed the stock replacement grip and use 2 Tourna Megatac overgrips 👌🏽👌🏽

@anemicroyalty8764 2 жыл бұрын

For me it depends on the racquet. If I’m using my APD, which stock has the regular full-size Syntec grip, I just use it, because it’s a fat, cushioned replacement grip. But if I’m using something (Like the RF97) that has a smaller, thinner stock grip I use an overgrip, with a preference towards the somewhat tacky.

@Tommie22x 2 жыл бұрын

i hope your not swapping between those two beast racquets. they are so different. u have adjust all your strokes and timing. there is almost no similarities in those two racquets

@TimG-- 2 жыл бұрын

Always !!

@LarzB 2 жыл бұрын

I prefer to not use any overgrips. I have one exception and 1 other use of an ondergrip: Exception: if it is really hot steamy humid and i sweat too much, i put an overgrip on my racket to take it off half way the match for a fresh continuation. Other use: i cut an overgrip in half (half the length) and wrap that just around the butt of the racket to make that thicker (underneath the replacement grip). This improves my grip and that i can hold my racket very loosely with just 3 fingers and not lose my racket.

@lucasoscar 2 жыл бұрын

I sweat from everyplace except my hands, so i get a base leather grip for years and not spend anything. Also i have small hands so less thickness is better for me

@michaelp9061 2 жыл бұрын

Coach Rob review H22 plz

@Jamajalama Жыл бұрын

Yeah I sweat a lot and change the overgrip every 3-4 hours 😅 but for me changing the overgrip is therapeutic 😅 and I bloody love the feel of a fresh overgrip 😍

@ldeue4837 2 жыл бұрын

Some people prefer the feel/tackiness of a fresh grip...I know I play better with a clean fresh wilson pro. I also use the smallest grip possible with 2 to 3 overgrips on it.

@harikkdi 2 жыл бұрын

I had to use an overgrip because my replacement grip underneath is leather grip. Otherwise, I would not use one.

@rich.e 9 ай бұрын

Overgrips are great but I can't stand that they lose their tackiness and get dirty so quickly, plus the waste aspect. So a black Head Hydrosorb Pro for me; lasts a while, less waste, less hassle. Someone gave a pack of Wilson Pro Overgrip so I'll have to try them and see if they change my opinion.

@wongjefx980 2 жыл бұрын

use overgrip.. am brutal putting them on... guy in shop recommends them as cheaper than putting on replacement grip, if you need to change them frequently...

@JCMacDonald 2 жыл бұрын

we need a video on my man coach gu's skincare routine lol. I know you have that chapstick on coach Gu!

@shitaocheng1527 11 ай бұрын

I use over grip is the same reason as gu

@emjay2045 2 жыл бұрын

Besides other reasons … sweat , feel, size… SANITARY REASONS. When I string a racket and that grip looks like it’s full of e-coli I put a plastic bag around it and NEVER touch it. I also question how nasty their hand sanitation really is. 🤔

@clintonsmurf6496 2 жыл бұрын

Overgrip for me. I like using to flare out the end as feels better than original grip's flat profile. Also using the original for too long makes it look disgusting (if isn't black color). I like the refreshing and new feel of overgrip. Sometimes I see peoples main grip and thinking hey man change that disgusting grip. No you ain't gonna try out my new racquet cause you might have ancient deadly bacteria from that grip

@bournejason66 2 жыл бұрын

Does Federer and djokovic use overgrip? Nadal uses as he sometimes changes it during the match

@mattgagi4347 2 жыл бұрын

Djoković has a leather base grip and 2 overgrips😉

@bournejason66 2 жыл бұрын

@@mattgagi4347 why needs two? To get the exact size he likes?

@mattgagi4347 2 жыл бұрын

@@bournejason66 it's his preference and he feels best like this... I use also a leather base grip and 2 overgrips.. it's great.. you use what you feel the best, don't listen to others

@emanuelebortolazzi1365 2 жыл бұрын

Come to Cancun and try to play without an overgrip…. Tropical weather…..

@ssportslivetvstreaming 2 жыл бұрын

which overgrip uses gu ?

@rutvikk. 2 жыл бұрын

Bro my overgrip is still on after 1 month 😂

@nachom1971 2 ай бұрын

For a replacement grip to provide the tackyness of an overgrip would make it too weak.

@Daniel-gu5ok 2 жыл бұрын

thats deep

@tenniswithric 2 жыл бұрын

That's what she said

@kingants4644 2 жыл бұрын

@@tenniswithric tell that to joe

@sautante 2 жыл бұрын

@@kingants4644 joe who?

@kingants4644 2 жыл бұрын

@@sautante ligma balls

@K4R3N 2 жыл бұрын

I'm on the fence. I hit Hydrosorb Pro, Oehms leather, Yonex Supergrap. Still figuring it out

@michaelp9061 2 жыл бұрын

They don’t last very long that is the issue. I use them but they wear out fast.

@patmcc7758 2 жыл бұрын

I put on a new Tournagrip every time I play, practice or match. They tend not to last long but are the best grips I've tried.

@MAELOB 2 жыл бұрын

Tourna grip guy no matter what 😉

@sicrwic2264 2 жыл бұрын

My hands get dry🤷🏻‍♂️

@sporto0067 2 жыл бұрын

Can you please address news about a supposed massive increase in the price of Wilson goods. Received what I perceived as guerilla marketing tactics from an online retailer fear mongering Wilson racquets going up $70 dollars from their current price point pushing to get us to buy as much Wilson product from them as possible....but my perception could be wrong and the notification might have actually been customer friendly helpful tip to grab those extra purchases at a price that will never be seen again. You have the inside track. Tell us, what is the scoop ?

@joselitoaquino3207 2 жыл бұрын

Overgrips for sure..

@leebr2010 2 жыл бұрын

Overgrips are super cheap. Can be bought for a buck each if bought in bulk. You can have a fresh grip any time you want. Replacement grips are not replacements for overgrips. Replacement grips are much more expensive.

@juan2thepaab 2 жыл бұрын

Removing the overgrip makes the balance of the racket more head heavy. Not a fan

@danieldangelo7937 2 жыл бұрын

I change my overgrip everytime I hit because of sweaty hands humidity clay dust &I like the fresh feel. I use Wilson overgrip pro or Yonex overgrip both have the same feel and texture.

@bevoburn 2 жыл бұрын

hahaha l love you guyz! keep up the good work

@tomr6955 Жыл бұрын

replacement grips too expensive/annoying to change. overgrip easy to change and has a nice feel.

@mattgagi4347 2 жыл бұрын

Djoković has a leather base grip and 2 overgrips👍🏻👌🏻

@shroud1390 2 жыл бұрын

3 overgrips here

@paultennis9569 2 жыл бұрын

Tennis Channel should hire you to do a weekly 5 min episode on different tennis topics.

@juju-rt8ek 2 жыл бұрын

If you are only feeding balls....you don't need

@alteroccatv 2 жыл бұрын

Vote this comment UP for leather grip, or DOWN for synthetic grip

@zaccheung2175 2 жыл бұрын

Mr Spin is cute and handsome

@jonathankim7238 2 жыл бұрын

I think this is the best tennis channel on youtube as it covers variety of subjects we all wanna know with tennis. I used to use over grips but now I just use replacement grip only as it gives me more feel and makes the grip size less bulky.

@mishellgagnon5771 2 жыл бұрын

Pure rubbish. Using an overgrip has nothing to do with the era you're playing in. It's purley a matter of TASTE. Some love it, some don't. But, if we look at the trend on both the ATP and the WTA, we'll see that MOST professionals use an overgrip: easy to install, fresh grip any time you switch racquets, better quality than some replacement grips, choice of colors, and, for some, stg to do during changeovers(ref. Gasquet). And today's pros use a smaller grip that they like to customize to their favourite size.

@ssenssel 2 жыл бұрын

Anybody eles pauses before he can give the cringy spiel and fast-forwards post the coffee BS?

@Daniel-gu5ok 2 жыл бұрын

@sandrosoler9995 2 жыл бұрын

And to me it doesn't make a difference. In other words, to sum up a 10 minute video into 2 words: personal preference

@hydrax1095 2 жыл бұрын

Early squad

@92edro 2 жыл бұрын

wahhhh i grip so many racquets that i dont wanna do my own wahhhhh. fuckin goofballs :/

@juju-rt8ek 2 жыл бұрын

No replacement grips, overgrips and no dampeners will kill your business. Dampeners here are about 10 cents

@rishijai 2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to open a tennis store and just sell dampeners 😄

@juju-rt8ek 2 жыл бұрын

@@rishijai need the other things to get the customers in.

@rajavidhun 2 жыл бұрын

I prefer over grips, I see it like changing your clothes. You wouldn't wear the same all the time. Grips get dirty why not just have clean over grips

@DragonPhlyy 2 жыл бұрын

I mean it’s easy to change your original grip too.

@rajavidhun 2 жыл бұрын

@@DragonPhlyy I should try might help me reduce my grip size. Been playing a 1/2 for too long

@f5ervin 2 жыл бұрын

why does your shirt look like its got mold on it though? 😂

@LAisamazzzzzing 2 жыл бұрын

It has felt on it that wears away

@henmaniac 2 жыл бұрын

Next video by Harry: "My total disdain for customers and anyone who disagrees with me". The summary is when he realises he screwed up but doesn't have any other content so tries to back track. I'm amazed Brad Gilbert employs this guy.

@TamAra-ki8sh 2 жыл бұрын

what a stupid topic. been watching for a while, now wondering why. GU is of course right. who can afford replacing grips constantly when a overgrip solves that problem. your racket must fly out of your hand constantly. your reaching for content....how about racket weight, or some other topic of importance?