For those inquiring about Finding Paradise: I have a video in the works. Stay tuned!

Regarding Neil's health. There are several hints that he's ill. If you go with him to the lighthouse in the beginning, you can see that his health bar isn't full during the RPG fight with the squirrel. Then of course the lies about the painkillers. And then there is the moment at the fair. If you talk to the fortune teller, Neil says "Good or bad, I'm screwed either way." implying, that he might be terminally ill. His snarky comments seem to be his coping mechanism.

beginning: I get it end: I don't get it

So, in Finding Paradise, sometime in the start of Act II when Neil goes to get his pills from the car, he sees again the bike that he comments on at the start of the game. He says "Wait a minute--" like he's about to recall seeing it before, but then there's this white flash, and he says "Huh, that's a nice bike. Sure wish I had one like it..." Neil is definitely losing memories.

my vote? Neil's dying. Slowly, but surely. Neil may be wanting to alter his own memories involving something horrible he did to his family. Something he wishes he had forgotten. The "2nd" Neil would have to exist to stop whatever Neil 1 was trying to accomplish. It's possible that Eva in the end is actually Eva 2. Eva 1 went to her sister's home. Eva 2 made a pleasant memory for Neil that one year. What we see is a memory being altered in front of us.

When he says "It's not them" doesn't mean his parents aren't his parents. It means that the problem is not with them "Is it something they did?" "It's not them" meaning, they didn't do anything for him to not want to speak to them, it is his own decision independent of them for him to not want to speak to them.

To the Moon was the first game to actually make me cry. What a beautiful game.

Hypothesis 1: If Neil use pain killer, it's because he tried to use the machine on himself which is potentially dangerous as it cause memories contradiction, so it had painful side effect. Hypothesis 2: He try to use the machine on himself to change his memories about something wrong he made (linked to his family) Hypothesis 3: At the end of the second minisode, Eva doesn't look older. Maybe she used the machine to change her memory about this christmas night, where she left Neil alone at the office.

And maybe you missed that in Minisode 2. If you interact with the machine, Neil says "So much wasted potential..." implying he might want to do more with it than just fulfilling wishes of dying people.

I don't think we could be in any of their memories. In the beginning of To the Moon, when someone is supposed to have Sarah and Tommy show them to the basement. We are able to choose who goes down there. If we were truly in a memory, we would only be able to follow whoever's memory we were in. And we don't follow only one doctor throughout the story. Neil is gone at the beginning of Act 2 when Eva is exploring, and Eva is gone during the whole mindf*ck when Neil is trying to keep her from removing River (unless you count the Zombievas). I'm sure something bigger is going on, but I don't think it's that.

There's a moment in To the Moon where Memory-John asks Neil, what he is. "You're merely an algorithm..." And Memory-John asks him: "Is this really what I am?" Memory-John is/was not aware that he's not real. It seems real to him. From his perspective, Neil and Eva can just appear out of nowhere and disappear into thin air, when they actually just enable/disable visibility. This is what Eva could have seen in Minisode 2 when she was in the car. She might have just been an algorithm that saw the real Eva appear in front of her on the street. Real Eva noticed that algorithm-Eva saw her and disabled visibility.

Wow I haven't heard about this game for a while. Everyone forgot about this classic when undertale came out.

Hopefully this gets explained at some point in the franchise; It seems like once the developers are done with the series, I suspect we'll all replay everything and go "Oo~ooh, now I get it!"

What really happened during the christmas minisode: a) Eva went to her sister's with the company car. Neil stayed behind to use his machine. The Eva that came back is a memory Eva, while the Neil that used the emergency shutdown is also a memory Neil (presumably to stop Neil from using the machine). After Neil turns the power back on, he runs into memory Eva, and hits her with the broom. b) Eva didn't use the company car because Neil wanted to use it to go home. Eva waited for her sister to pick her up. Neil used the emergency shutdown to turn off the building (such a Neil thing to do), and left. The Eva that gave Neil a present (the recorder) is a memory Eva; while the Neil that received the present and that didn't say anything about the company car, is also a memory Neil. This memory Neil stayed behind to use the machine. Real life events (Neil shutting down the power) influenced memory Neil's actions. After memory Neil turns the power back on, he runs into Eva (not a memory), who was waiting for her sister, and hits her with the broom. Basically, during the dinner, we have a combination of either "memory Eva + Neill *or* "Eva + memory Neil"; depending on who is trying to use the machine to alter whose memory.

>this video gets 8k >undertale gets 98k Why

I don't think the second minisode could have been either Neil's or Eva's memories because (if we're looking through either of their POVs, which we would in a typical memory), we couldn't have seen Neil alone in his locked office or Eva alone in her car. We would have only seen what the person has seen. I propose a third culprit. Please hear me out. (This is copied from a post I wrote in another forum on this exact topic.) The intended purpose of the machine, as we’ve seen in “To the Moon” is to hook both the doctors and the patient up to the machine, so that the doctors have access to the patient’s memory. The way I think this works is that the doctors log in to the machine with a username and password, like logging in to an online server. A required log in would make sense, since it would prevent just anyone from messing with the machine. Their consciousness are then transferred into the patient’s head, and the machine renders the doctors as apparitions or avatars that can now interact with the patient’s memories. No clue if I’m right on this. Eva and Neil are obviously using the machine for something other than its intended purpose. (They have to do it in secret, after all. And it looks experimental if Neil has to try it thirty times.) They’re hooking themselves up to the machine without a patient, or in other words, without someone’s memories to dive into. What if Eva and Neil aren’t trying to dive into anyone’s memories? What if the machine allows them to project their consciousness into the actual, real life world and make things happen? Kind of like turning yourself into a poltergeist, while you sit safe and sound in the privacy of your apartment or office? You could, say, infiltrate the Sigmund Corp office and shut off the power. Or you could simply “turn off visibility” and spy on people? Or investigate an incident to get to the bottom of what happened? What if that’s why Eva and Neil have tried hooking themselves up to the machine in secret? What if they already suspect that someone has been illicitly using the machine in this way, and are trying to catch this person? Let’s consider the possibility of this unknown third culprit. If you were up to no good, and you knew Eva and Neil were on to you, what would you do? Sabotage them. If this third culprit has Neil’s login info and could possibly be watching Eva (See: her diary), this person could very well have Eva’s login info as well. He or she could have stolen one of these machines, used Eva’s login info to access the machine, and that would cause the machine to render their consciousness as Eva’s image. Stealing the machine doesn’t sound that hard, after all. During the second minisode, Eva’s brother-in-law asks about security, and someone (Eva or Neil, I forget which) mentions that security is really light. What if that’s all it took? The memory device sees a person using the machine, sees that this person inputted Eva’s username and password, thinks “This person must be Eva,” and renders this person’s avatar as Eva’s image. How else could the computer know that the person using it is NOT Eva? It would’ve been a brilliant plan on the criminal’s part. He/she could very easily stop Neil from investigating the memory machine by shutting off the power, while simultaneously framing Eva for it by doing it in her image. No one would be any the wiser, because this person would be safe and sound in their own private lair. We know that Sigmund Corp has a lot of dissenters, after all. It’s not too far-fetched to think that one of them might be a bit on the extreme side…

"Why aren't you talking to them? Was it someting they did?" "No, it's not them". I'm pretty sure he just means they didn't do anything. As in, their actions are not the reason why he's not talking to them.

Wow, I thought the game was much simpler. And now it's 1 am and I'm vrying for no reason.

After watching another playthrough of this game just a few minutes ago, I noticed some odd things I didn't notice on my own playthrough.And yeah, they might just be mere coincidences but since we're talking about a game which deals with altering memories, they are at least worth taking into concideration. First of all, some small tidbits of dialoug that kinda stood out to me this time: Neill was talking about his memories with his grandfather, while Eva was dropping hints of memories with her and Neill (Helping him cheating the entrance exams, "You of all people should know that" after Johnny invited River to the movie). That may not seem so strange, but the only times Neill kinda talks about memories of him and Eva together, are events that happend during the game(Car-Crash, Pushing him of the lIghthouse), while Eva only talks abou memories we haven't seen, as well as not talking about memories only involving her. While this simply could be because of their personalitys it still strikes me as kinda odd, again especially given the whole Memory altering shenanigans. And one little thing you kinda missed, or at least did not mention in the video, was the fact that two Neills could be seen for a brief moment on the bridge before the space shuttle took of. And since I think that entering and altering your own memories would kinda result in a paradox similar to the grandfather-paradox with timetravels, it makes me belief that at this particular moment, we are in Eva's memories, not Neill's. That again would imply the exact opposite in the Holiday Minisode where we get to see two Eva's. My conclusion on that, at least based on the clues and facts we have as of now, is, that in fact, both of them are dieing, and they are diving into each others minds at the same time, but trying to achieve different results. But at the end, all we can do for now, is wait for the release of Finding Paradise, and see how the story continues. Sorry for any kind of spelling- or grammarmistakes, but english is not my mothertongue

The thing about Neil’s parents being dead and Eva not knowing really really hits home for me. There’s no doubt in my mind memories can be self aware. Eva showed us a glimpse of this when she explains how River still ended up with Johnny. She explain it something to the affect of it is still up to “her” if she rejoins Johnny later in his life after being corrected out. There’s no gurantee there as she makes her own decisions based on Johnny’s wiki of knowledge(? I forget what the actual terminology was). Although if Neil knows something Eva doesn’t know this should mean this isn’t strictly Eva’s memories, it should be Neil’s.

But we know Neil is sick right? That initial squirrel fight shows he is lacking HP which isn't the case if you play as Eva. Then the red flash shows that he's in pain and in a simulation. It makes the most sense to me that he is dying and they're using the machine to artificially give him more life, future memories he won't have time to experience. He keeps his same job because he just wanted to live out his life but couldn't do that in the real world.

i dont know if i understand everything talked about here, but i really like the idea of eva messing with neils memories, and neil rebelling against it. however, my first through from seeing eva in the chair, was she was an unwilling participant in memory alteration, and neil was actually the mastermind behind it.

A concrete wall, huh? Oh Neil...

I think the recorder was used to show that Neill is lonely. He's recording the sound of a social gathering to play back later.

Duuuude you totally missed (or forgot) about the second Neil on the rocket launch scene. When borh Neil and Eva are standing on the bridge watching the launch, you can see another Neil standing right behind them. What do you think about it?

There’s always the possibility that Neil and Eva are at war within each other’s memory (or perhaps just Neil’s). Even though I vouched for the power supply turning off for other reasons, it could also be that Neil entered Eva's memory and shut it off preemptively. What are your thoughts?

In regards to that scene of Eva sitting in a chair with the helmet on: Are those liquor bottles on the table next to her?

Almost 2018... To the Moon still has a better story than fking AAA games on ps4 I wonder if someone will ever read this

This game is my all time favorite game, so I'm excited to see some more theory videos about this game. ESPECIALLY about Neil! He's a pretty interesting character if you asked me!

I can't wait for Finding Paradise. So excited! End of 2016 to early 2017 release people!

If you read this comment, I hope you finally make a video about what we've seen in Finding Paradise. I loved this one and cannot wait to hear your thoughts about FP :)

And the reality of To the Moon can't be a memory because it defies the established logic how memories work. There are several scenes in the game where Neil is not around. And since he's not present in those moments, those can't be memories.

(finding paradise spoiler warning) i believe the machine that neil is "testing" in this video, is the replica he was doing because at some point in finding paradise (im still at the middle in the game, so i dont know if its more clarified in the future) roxanne finds out that the machine that neil and eva are using isn't the company's machine; but i have no idea about the scene of when *eva* is using the machine, that has the be a different story

God I spend so much time thinking about this. Great video

I have an idea i talked with my friends about. In the beginning Neil crashes the car. Maybe everything that happens in to the moon and the Sigcorp minisodes is in Evas head becouse Neil died in the car Crash. And now she want to imagin the storry with an alive Neil.

I only watched people play To the Moon and its two holiday episodes. I loved the story of To the Moon and I didn't expect it to get as deep as it did in the two side stories. It's so much that I don't even know what to think which is why I've been painfully waiting for the sequel to come out to finally have closure.

How does this not have 100k views already?

A question: have you read Eva's diary entry from the second minisode? It says something along the lines of, she feels like someone is watching/following her. Man, so many questions, pretty much no answers. I guess that's Kan's style though, maybe in case he decides to change something later on (like how he always overshoots his deadlines, so now he just never gives specific dates) so it can still make sense. Or he's just withholding as much information as possible so he can shock us when it actually is revealed, but we can still see clues tracing back (like in To The Moon itself, and in the way he's showing off Finding Paradise right now).

The Soundtrack of To the Moon is so GREAT!! ^^

Interesting speculations. My belief is that this is all some kind of bleeding effect, which is why eva sees herself in real life (not in memory) for example. The biggest question here is: what is sigmund corp and why is the world angry at them? What if their machine is being used for nefarious reasons? What if doctors who have used the machines to do good have gone ballistic for example? And its actually some form of brainwashing tool (which is technically true anyways) Onto Neil: he knows this. He's been fighting against the effects. Hes been hacking and lying and fighting against sigcorp to find out what is actually going on. We see eva using the machine in the episodes as well. Or used on... but if its not supposed to be used on still going to be alive tomorrow people then what is actually going on? I think Neil is trying to SAVE THE WOOOORLD! Cuz he would. And if not for the world he would save it for Eva, his best (and probably only) friend.

Imposter factory confirms neil is ill, ill as in his disease he inherited from his mom could become fatal at any moment. But also in imposter factory and the paper memories comic neil uses the machine to view memories his mother left for him (she helped develop the machine) so your theory is really plausible

Nice Video!!

There's two Neils in Two to the Moon at the Shuttle blasting off scene. I thought it was a glitch originally, but something more is definitely going on here and there.

When I played this game for a let's play, the second minisode freaked me out!

I think the best guesses to take out of this are: 1) Neil is the patient we'll meet last, due to the pills. 2) Both Neil and Eva seem to have, at one point, tampered with their own memories. (Quite possibly _why_ Neil is dying; that process isn't good for you.) Aaand that's really it. Any guesses as to their motivations for tampering with their own memories are pretty futile since there's no way to tell Memory Eva/Neil from Reality Eva/Neil.

Could you talk about the sequel, I feel like I missed a lot of things in that game?

Woah Didn't expect this game to show up

What I thought when I finished the game is that they were in Neil's memories and Neil was the one that was dying and his final wish is to help more people have their wishes fulfilled. they didn't succeed with Johnny's wish but Neil and Eva went back to make sure they did. in the next game they will make sure they fulfill that persons wish because they didn't before. I am probably wrong but that is what I thought of when I finished it.

There's also a part in the game To The Moon when they are at the bridge watching the space ship take off, where there are two Neils in the scene: the one with Eva and the one somewhere in the crowd of people. I haven't seen that when I first played the game but when I watched a gamer played it I saw it. Kinda gave me goosebumps, too.

Finding Paradise is out. Can you give your 2 cents about new info about Neil's plan?

On the subject with Neil being a memory, I'm surprised you didn't mention the part in the interlude where Johnny asks Neil if that's all he is. And instead of answering, Neil just considers it for half a moment, and then leaves.

Another thing which stands out and confirms something wrong with Neil is the conversation he had with Johnny's last memory, when the duo go back to him to see if anything changed (after hitting that memory block). Neil was definitely out of character when trying to explain things to that "memory", instead of freezing him/not giving shit (which was the expected behaviour from him). A lot of the mystery relied on what that modified machine does? Seeing both Eva and Neil using the modified device, it can be concluded that only a single person is required to operate the device (unlike the older device which requires a doctor and patient). I just can't come up with a possible theory about it which stays consistent with other facts.

I personally think that the events of the holiday special were Eva rewriting her own memories to forget the fact that she left Neil alone in his office, and that the thing with Neil and the painkillers in the base game was because Neil tried using the device on himself before Eva perfected the technique. Mainly because 1. The theory in this video makes my head hurt, 2. This theory has the potential to ruin the best ending in gaming history (To the Moon), and 3. Eva is alone in her house, key word, alone, with no patient hooked up to it, meaning she is probably rewriting her own memories. Though I might be missing something because I've never played Finding Paradise.

finding paradise is so far away.

Wait maybe they never did fulfill the wish of Johnny and Neil wishes that he did fulfill it which brings us this game where he alters his memories to make him think that he did fulfill Johnny's wish

Ouch. Thanks SwankyBox. Now my head hurts trying to figure it out. @_@;;

ah god, almost cried from the intro music

MAN, I need to play this game!

The pronunciation of Eva made me cringe. Did you never watch Wall-E? EEEEEVA!!!!

Oh gosh I'm already getting the feels and it hasn't even been 10 seconds yet omg someone help

Where to get the game?

It was perhaps a hint at the end of the first game where you see someone behind Neil who looks like Neil which is pretty damn weird.

Total Recall with a twist!

More confusing than Inception.

0:08 I agree with that statement whole heartedly

YES!!! MY SECOND FAVORITE STORY BASED INDIE GAME!

Another thing. If you observe the Launch in To The Moon, when Neil jumps we see another Neil at the place of other Neil. Was that a bug or a confirm to your (and mine) theory?

I didn't even know there was a second holiday episode...

The weird thing is that the side-stories imply that he's not the only one who has had his memory tampered with. I don't even _know_ what to think at that point.

wait there!!??? HOW DOES IT HAVE TWO SPECIAL EPISODES?? WHAT'S THEIR NAMES??? I NEVER SEEN NOT A GAMEPLAY OF IT!!!

(I saw this on my feed and was just) 😮

I can't say I understood this too much, but I know that someone is dying. Which was why I was screeching "SCREW YOU" at the screen at the end of the first game.

I suppose our answers will come when the sequel comes out!

I do have a idea for a undertale theory. What if frisk isn't human? Think about it. Most humans have their souls last after death, but frisks heart breaks as soon as you hit 0 hp. Also, he doesn't really look too human (the former is stronger than the latter).

To the moon, that's a name I haven't heard since.......

To the moon is an amazing game

I assumed the call from his parents was the result of his replaced memories. He simply believes they're someone else when they clearly know who he is.

Memory, memory has been said at least 50 times. I will never remember what this video of memory is actually saying

Love this game omg

what game is this ?

Nice, i love To The Moon. Oh and can you do a video on Yume Nikki?

I'm confused season 2is out?

wait wait wait wait wait..... what was that a second game? when you were talking about niel i mean, you suddenly said something i think about another game? is there a second? crap i cant watch this video now XD

Maybe Neil has somewhat of a terminal illness he keeps under wraps and that's why he takes all of those painkillers?

1:35 now i got the sitch about it ima go play it

Everyone's just addicted to Undertale and I'm here like: "Damn, this game is well made..." (I don't hate Undertale, I love the game, it's just that the Fandom is crap.) To The Moon is my all time favourite game!

"It's not them" was a response to Eva's question, if they did something wrong. Like it's their fault that Neil doesn't speak to them anymore. The "It's not them" means that it's nothing they did.

*Static* That's one step for man... One... Giant step for... JOOOOHN CENA! Someone had to do it

i was hoping this game will be about moon but i guess its not

OW MY HEAD

I need a theory on why river cares so much about "any"

alguien me lo resume? nose ingles :v

What? that all in my mind from the beginning tonthe end.Nice theory tho

i playd the game once i never playd it again there were too many manly tears shed

I'll be taking some painkillers now, thanks.

each of the human souls had weapons and arome like purple =ballet shoes and old dusty tutu

Hmm... fun video, but it feels like you might be overcomplicating things a bit. I always assumed Neil was terminally ill, and that perhaps his experiments with the machine were the cause; that in the events of the holiday episode, the power is shut off to prevent whatever actually happened to Neil because of his experiment.

NAIL GET THE DRAGON BALLS

Of course I get an ad for Beats by Dr. Dre before this video...

I played it before only the demo I and i watched it though pewdiepie's videos I cried